Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- MANILA, Philippines -- Dionesia Pacquiao, or Mommy D to many, opened up on her feelings about the change of faith of her son Manny Pacquiao with broadcaster Korina Sanchez on "Rated K," which aired on Sunday.
tama kayo Mommy D hindi kailangan ipakita sa madla ang pagdarasal.....
Right...
I agree... it doesnt matter what religion you are... I am catholic but I respects other religions.. religion is just a name. but a faith in God is the most important.
Its not about faith, ito na talaga ang time nya.. kahit anu naman religion natin, iisang panginoon lng ang sinsamba natin.. lahat may hangganan.
isa po akong catholic pero ok lng sa akin na lumipat na si Manny sa ibang religion kasi tumigil na siya sa kanyang mga bisyo, sa tingin ko masaya na Jinkee ngayon dahil sa pagbabago ni Manny..
When you embrace new faith ..you will be tested by God to humble yourself..after that you will see how your faith grows and will change you to be a better person . There is or are always lesson to learn in life to what paths we choose.
the world can only offer you material things, yet cannot save your soul and you can't bring it if we die... Continue to be an ambassador of Christ... Let them see how God can raise you from your fall... even if you fall, you know where you will land... Perseverance and Endurance bro in times like these...Godbless!
My message to Manny Pacquiao, bro watever happen we are still here for you... alam mo na si Mommy D di pa masyado alam ng katotohanan... bro, if we win, we praise God, and if we lose, we still praise God. during this difficult time, God will never leave us nor forsake us... its not about how we stumble, but how we stand up and fight! For the Glory of God, never give up for He will never give up on you...
Tama ka Mommy D,🙏🙏🙏Keep on praying the Holy Rosary for the conversion of your son🙏
Not on rosary but Jesus
proud parin kami sayo many☺☺☺👍👍
sa mga corrupt ta mahelig sa power , ba
I don't have regrets of changing my religion from being a Catholic to a Christian. I do believe that religion cannot save you. That is why religion is not a matter of debate it is the faith that counts, and the truth that you want to know, and the truth that will shed light from the darkness that blinded me.
brocolli carter BEST comment I have read here so far.
religion can't save you , it is your relationship with the Lord that saves you and good deeds to be follow
mothers knows best!! i love you mommy d!
Yan c mommy D my paninindigan!!! mom knows best... Go mommy D ikaw nah!!!
Mommy D I like ypu because you are a true catholic
HAPPY B-DAY Sir. Manny Paquiao. Stay-In-Congress po sana kayo and i wish you more blessing and success sa servicio sa maharlikang Pilipinas ... Godbless !!!
Happy Mother's day to Mommy D.
Salute aq sau Mommy D.
You are His mother and You know what is best for Him!
Pastors are good in preaching, they even know the verses in the Bible. But some point in their preaching they had realizations and started to discover new things, a very good example is Bro. Noe Dura, a former Born-Again pastor converted to the Catholic church. Seems that this two churches have conflicting beliefs, but when he started to weigh the points, he understand more why the Catholics practice so and so. A challenge to pastors and other brethren in Christ eh kung What is the theological essence of why the Church has this and that. Follow also Dr. Scott Hahn's lecture on the Franciscan University of Steubenville.
Hahahaha i love mommy d nakaka tuwa sya very simple person
I love you so much mommy D great mother and a great person faithful Catholic God Bless!!
Christian na sya now. Hehehe
panis.kal mommy
saludo aq s u mommy dionisia....
Saludo ako sa pagmamahal mo sa anak mo mamI D
gina takeuchi
salute to pacquiao for being a good boxer and of course to his mother Mommy Dionisia for raising him very well. tama naman un sinabi nya eh, sa dami ng pinagdaanan ni Mommy Dionisia sa buhay nya kasama ng mga anak nya bago pa man din yumaman si pacquiao, mag isa nya tinaguyod sila pacquiao pero kahit minsan hindi xa bumitaw sa pananampalataya nya..sobrang proud talaga aku sayo Mommy Dionisia. at dahil kayo po ay ina ng hinahangaan ku nasa inyo po ang aking RESPETO! God bless you more Mommy Dionisia.. :-)
tsamba lang ang panalo ni markis at malas lang at that particular moment si pakyaw . kung base sa takbu ng laban , kung di na tsambahan ng solid punch si pakyaw, panalmg panalo sana si idol. trampion ka pa rin! kasu baka isa isang maglahu yung mga peste este pastol sa paligid m pag wala ka na pera
''The ROSARY is a devotion that through the Blessed Mother, 'LEADS US TO JESUS it is he who is the goal of this long and repeated invocation to Mary.''
🙏🙏🙏
Amen.
@@josephhormigueraacabal8311 Happy Feast of the Our Lady of the Holy Rosary🙏🙏🙏❤
JESUS SAID:” I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO One CAN COME INTO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY ME”
No people nor rosary its only Jesus is the only way to God
0:46 hahaha😂😂 sorry mommy D grabe tawa ko sa reaksyon mo haha love u more power✌🏼
Depende yun sa kung paano ginagamit ang isang bagay. Rosary indeed has a good prayer method, for we contemplate the life of Christ by remembering its mysteries. Wala pung masama talaga sa rosary, the intention of which is to reflect and ponder Christ's salvific mission. Kaso eh some fanaticals practice different ways which is not prescribed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church using the rosary as the source of some magical powers. There are some "pulong" or "hurim" which before you use it, according to them is to first offer a rosary first : termed as "tulumanon" in Visayan.
i agree to mommy D.
noon ,kasama mo ako sa hirap....ngayong natupad muna ang mga pangarap mo......binitiwan mo na ako.....
tama dapat igalang ang ating ina
Be strong Sen Manny...You worship God according to ur heart! Never allow the devil to deceive you...worship God in "Spirit and in Truth"
wow galing ni mommy D tama ka po dapat di pa showing ang pagdadasal
tama ka.
Kinsa nga Pastor iya nga gi mention ?
Being a born again is not a religion it is a relationship with our lord JESUS CHRIST. John 3:16
PETERSON ANIMAS korek
No bornagain is satanic cult
So do we Catholic!😁
lennie surara how can you say!?
#Levitico 19:4🌸
4 Huwag ninyong babalikan ang mga diosdiosan, ni huwag kayong gagawa para sa inyo ng mga dios na binubuo ako ang Panginoon ninyong Dios.(mga santo na gawa sa kahoy)
#Exodo 20:4 🌸
Huwag kang gagawa para sa iyo ng larawang inanyuan o ng kawangis man ng anomang anyong nasa itaas sa langit, o ng nasa ibaba sa lupa, o ng nasa tubig sa ilalim ng lupa:
20:5 -Huwag mong yuyukuran sila, o paglingkuran man sila; sapagka't akong Panginoon mong Dios, ay Dios na mapanibughuin, na aking dinadalaw ang katampalasanan ng mga magulang sa mga anak, hanggang sa ikatlo at ikaapat na salin ng lahi ng mga napopoot sa akin;
lennie surara hndi religion ang bornagain .its an organization pupunta ka sa church para alamin kung ano kahulugan ng mga nksulat sa bibliya at palawakin ang isipan at ilapit ang relasyon ky kristo.lahat ng nsa bibliya.ung wala sa bibliya na inimbento ng tao un ang satanic at kulto! May black nazaren ba sa bible? Diba wala so ano ibig sabihin?
I agree to mommy d ayukung magdasal nga may nakatingin sakin kc tama nmn sya kahit pa isara mo bahay mo kung tunay kang nananampalataya sa dios yun ang tunay na dasal
Mas mapalad nga ang mga taong mangmang kay sa mga taong my mga pinag aralan.
Mr. noel kayo bay nakaunawa sa inyong religeon? wag nyo naman maliitin ang mga taong mangmang dahil sila ay walang kasalanan. marami nga ngayong maalam, hindi naman nakaunawa sa mga bagay bagay.
Tama ka mommy D, yung iba sa isang araw lang kong 3 times mag simba ,peru sa ngayon parang ginawa na ang religion sa pag sosyalan ,,at pakitang tao ,
Touching
sa paniniwala ko lahat pare-pareho pag dating sa mata ng Panginoong Dios bow po ako sa inyo Mama D sa mga comments mo according to your true love kc ang true love ng mga Ina ay ang kanilang mga anka kasi,,,,,,,,, dba kaya
Advance Maayong Pasko kanimo inday Dionesia, Manny & Jinkee Pacquiao Family, ABS-CBN at sa Lahat ng mga Kababayan ko :)
nice 1 one momy D.. godbless us..:-)
Let just continue to pray for your mother that may her time will come to encounter our True Living God Jesus Christ... i know that as a Christian many persecution we will face, one way to stretch our faith and trust to Jesus... the world can't offer you what God can offer...
You mother, leave your son alone and his family. Respect what they believed nothing wrong to be closer to be closer to God infact you should be proud of him since he became born again he helped a lot of people including yourself. Think that he doesn't bother you for having a toyboy at your age.
Without here he would not have life. She also raised him and God gifted her with a son who was blessed with boxing skills. She is a devout Catholic and never abandon her faith even when she was dirt poor. Manny has the right to choose what ever religion or practice how he wants but it says in the Bible honor thy father and thy mother. I know that can be tough at times but Manny fought 36 rounds with Marquez with out getting knocked out and he disregards his rosary and gets knocked down twice.
MANNY PACQUIAO IS STILL THE BEST
mommy D suportado din po kita :) mommy D has a point
C mommy D. parang c typhoon yolanda
Hahaha
Mommy D is CORRECT.
she has a point. you don't need to show everyone when you pray.
can some one translate please
cris, i agree!
sana sinonod nlng ni many ang kagustohan ng ina nya, kc makakarma talaga ang mga nanay pag hindi sinusunod ng anak,
Whats she saying about his new faith?
Marahil napaka-makapangyarihan ang Diyos ng Simbahang Katolika kaysa sa ibang relihiyon at paniniwala.. tama ho ba?
Bakit naman hindi ka makatanggap ..ibig mo sabihin...powerfull kapa sa lord...oras na talaga yan sa anak mo...di pwede lahat hawakan nalang sa isang tao ang grasya na pinagkaloob ng panginoon...
ranting unproven things make somebody a liar. Ang pagdarasal ay hindi pakitang tao, and yet RC people pray together in HUGE/CROWDED churchESSS. GOD BLESS!!
Jan kana lang sa Lugar mo manny para makatulong kapa Jan congrats
For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future...Jer.29:11
bro, its all about Faith in God and do not put your faith to idols... for they cannot move and do something for you...
Do not blame manny because he wanted to search for the truth. The truth he did not found before. He did not change his faith, he just merely stepped into the light. The traditional way, human customs, and beliefs, those were the things that blinded him. But the Lord showed him the true meaning of worship and the real meaning of prayer and serving the LIVING God, and not just any other gods, idols, and saints. Aling D, stop being bitter, if Manny wants to find and live with the truth.
ang pag ibig ba ng panginoon ay kung pag nanalo ka lamang?
Tama yan mommy d wag mong ikahiya ang paniniwala nating mga katoliko dahil tayo may malalim na dahilan kung bakit importante sa atin yong mga bagay Nayan (only Catholic can knows)tayong mga Catholic naman ang unang relihiyon wala nang iba ......sila dapat ang mahiya dahil gumawa lang sila nang sarili nilang relihiyon....
Ang positive ay nakikita or seen at ang negative ay hindi nakikita or invisible kc ang positive=7 seen=7 at ang negative=2 invisible=2 at nkasulat yn sa 2 corinto 4:18, Ang positive ay temporal at ang negative ay eternal,kya ang buong mundo ay nagkamali sa salitang postive at negative dhl gngamit yn s mga edukadong tao pti mga leader ng mga religion n mdalas nlng cnsbi n hwag kang mag isip ng negative at mag isip ka ng positive,ang akala nla ang negative ay ksmaan at ang positive ay kabutihan...
Hindi nyo ba napansin Dec 8 yung Laban eh immaculate Concepcion yun. Yun ang pinakamalaking solo feast ni Mary. Sa catholico nagnonovena na 9 days ending sa araw na yun. Catholic si Marquez di ba nag sign of the cross. Sigurado mga nagnovena yun kay Mary. Nung baby pa si Pacquaio o buntis kay Manny nakita ni Mommy D si Mama Mary and parang nkaconsecrate sya dun. Sya ang nagdala sa kanya at nagprotect like she looked after jesus as a child! Pero nung sumikat na si Pacquiao bigla nya tinanggal ang rosary na sinusuot nya which is part of Marys weapon against evil. Hindi na rin sya nagsisign of the cross. Tignan nyo di lang sya natalo KO pa. Tapos sa synod na Laban nakakapagtaka na panalo na dapat sya Pero talk pa rin. Tapos wrong huli nanalo na pero ibang problema naman sa tax., sunodsunod.. Then reason kaya important si Mary is because Jesus listen to Mary and cant say no to his mother. He did his first miracle before his time even if its not his time yet. It says that if she ask jesus it will be Granted even if in the natural order of things it originally wasnt suppose to.. But don't get me wrong she won't ask anything against Gods will. But she has that power in the heart of God. so people who don't ask for her help or malign her is going to be in big trouble with Jesus.
Dear, Catholics.
Mary wasn't a perpetual virgin.
CONSUMMATE - To complete (a marriage) with the first act of sexual intercourse after the ceremony.
But of course Joseph had to wait until she gave birth.
Matthew 1:24-25
"When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus."
This explains why people from their hometown who didn't believe in Jesus talked about his brothers and sisters.
Matthew 13:54-58
"Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?” they asked. “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joses, Simon and Jude? Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?” And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home.” And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith."
Jesus even repeatedly taught that God's followers are more important than Mary.
Matthew 12:46-50
"While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.” He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
Luke 11:27-28
"And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
Nowhere in the Bible other than other people did Jesus Himself even refer to her as His mother but calls her Woman everytime He is talking directly to her.
John 2:3-4
"And when they ran out of wine, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.” Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.”
In that verse, Jesus didn't even obey Mary. Even Mary herself said she needs a Savior. Who needs a Savior? Sinners.
Luke 1:46-47
And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour,"
God said to stop praying in repetitions... (especially to Mary)
Matthew 6:7
"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."
and the graven images...
Exodus 20:4
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth"
(By the way, your statues have it wrong-Jesus wasn't a white man, He had olive skin!)
and the treating Catholic doctrine equal to God's Word...
Mark 7:5-9
"Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?” He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men -the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.” He said to them, “ All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition."
and telling people to follow Catholicism because your works are the most important...
Ephesians 2:8-9
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast."
Only Jesus is the intercessor/mediator.
1 Timothy 2:5
“For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”
Romans 8:34
“Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died-more than that, who was raised to life-is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us”
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."
BaFayNot23 Dear Catholic Hater, you're wrong, period. If you still want to say something derogatory about the catholic church instead of harassing me because you can't convince me to believe you talk to Scott Hahn. You have no grace to understand what I would say to you because you are too arrogant to think that you interpret the bible correctly. You've been persecuting the catholic church for sometime now like st. Paul and you will answer for that. You like quoting things from the bible but do not practice humility and do you do acts of charity or do you just like to quote the bible ? Because countless of great thinkers , scholars and holy people can interpret the bible better than you. Catholicism bother you and you want us to leave our church. You have no understanding of Mary at all and I have no time to teach you about her. Please done waste my time. That means you will have to do research about her on what catholics believe, start with Scott Hahn then proceed to the many popes who've written about the immaculate Concepción. There are too many. Just about all saints wrote about it. But this is where you made your greatest mistake. You attack the bride of church so you persecute Jesus. But you also attacked the mother, you have no idea how highly Jesus looked as his mother and how much he loves her. By the way, all the things you quoted we were already taught and the interpretation is more vast and clearer than his you explained it. No one student will listen to someone who has an associate degree over those with PhD and beyond as teachers.
BaFayNot23 let me show you how one of the Early Catholic church fathers analyze that same subject. Now this was a very holy person.
The Perpetual Virginity of Mary (Jerome)
The Perpetual Virginity of Blessed Mary
Against Helvidius.
This tract appeared about a.d. 383. The question which gave occasion to it was whether the Mother of our Lord remained a Virgin after His birth. Helvidius maintained that the mention in the Gospels of the sisters and brethren of our Lord was proof that the Blessed Virgin had subsequent issue, and he supported his opinion by the writings of Tertullian and Victorinus. The outcome of his views was that virginity was ranked below matrimony. Jerome vigorously takes the other side, and tries to prove that thesisters and brethren spoken of, were either children of Joseph by a former marriage, or first cousins, children of the sister of the Virgin. A detailed account of the controversy will be found in Farrar's Early Days of Christianity, pp. 124 sq. When Jerome wrote this treatise both he and Helvidius were at Rome, and Damasuswas Pope. The only contemporary notice preserved of Helvidius is that by Jerome in the following pages.
Jerome maintains against Helvidius three propositions:-
1st. That Joseph was only putatively, not really, the husband of Mary.
2d. That the brethren of the Lord were his cousins, not his own brethren.
3d. That virginity is better than the marriedstate.
1. The first of these occupies ch. 3-8. It turns upon the record in Matt. i. 18-25, and especially on the words, Before they came together (c. 4),knew her not till, etc. (5-8).
2. The second (c. 9-17) turns upon the wordsfirst-born son (9, 10), which, Jerome argues, are applicable not only to the eldest of several, but also to an only son: and the mention of brothers and sisters, whom Jerome asserts to have been children of Mary the wife ofCleophas or Clopas (11-16); he appeals to manyChurch writers in support of this view (17).
3. In support of his preference of virginity tomarriage, Jerome argues that not only Mary butJoseph also remained in the virgin state (19); that, though marriage may sometimes be a holyestate, it presents great hindrances to prayer(20), and the teaching of Scripture is that the states of virginity and continency are more accordant with God's will than that of marriage(21, 22).
1. I was requested by certain of the brethren not long ago to reply to a pamphlet written by oneHelvidius. I have deferred doing so, not because it is a difficult matter to maintain the truth and refute an ignorant boor who has scarce knownthe first glimmer of learning, but because I wasafraid my reply might make him appear worthdefeating. There was the further consideration that a turbulent fellow, the only individual in the world who thinks himself both priest andlayman, one who, as has been said, thinks that eloquence consists in loquacity and considers speaking ill of anyone to be the witness of agood conscience, would begin to blasphemeworse than ever if opportunity of discussion were afforded him. He would stand as it were on a pedestal, and would publish his views far and wide. There was reason also to fear that when truth failed him he would assail his opponents with the weapon of abuse. But all these motives for silence, though just, have more justly ceased to influence me, because of the scandal caused to the brethren who were disgusted at his ravings. The axe of the Gospelmust therefore be now laid to the root of the barren tree, and both it and its fruitless foliage cast into the fire, so that Helvidius who has never learned to speak, may at length learn to hold his tongue.
2. I must call upon the Holy Spirit to express His meaning by my mouth and defend the virginityof the Blessed Mary. I must call upon the LordJesus to guard the sacred lodging of the womb in which He abode for ten months from all suspicion of sexual intercourse. And I must also entreat God the Father to show that the mother of His Son, who was a mother before she was a bride, continued a Virgin after her son was born. We have no desire to career over the fields of eloquence, we do not resort to the snares of the logicians or the thickets ofAristotle. We shall adduce the actual words ofScripture. Let him be refuted by the sameproofs which he employed against us, so that he may see that it was possible for him to read what is written, and yet to be unable to discern the established conclusion of a sound faith.
3. His first statement was: Matthew says, Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privately. But when he thought on these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fearnot to take unto you Mary your wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. Notice, he says, that the word used is betrothed, notentrusted as you say, and of course the onlyreason why she was betrothed was that she might one day be married. And the Evangelistwould not have said before they came together if they were not to come together, for no one would use the phrase before he dined of a man who was not going to dine. Then, again, theangel calls her wife and speaks of her as unitedto Joseph. We are next invited to listen to the declaration of Scripture: Matthew Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao AndJoseph arose from his sleep, and did as the angelof the Lord commanded him, and took unto him his wife; and knew her not till she had brought forth her son.
4. Let us take the points one by one, and follow the tracks of this impiety that we may show that he has contradicted himself. He admits that she was betrothed, and in the next breath will have her to be a man's wife whom he has admitted to be his betrothed. Again, he calls her wife, and then says the only reason why she wasbetrothed was that she might one day bemarried. And, for fear we might not think that enough, the word used, he says, is betrothedand not entrusted, that is to say, not yet a wife, not yet united by the bond of wedlock. But when he continues, the Evangelist would never have applied the words, before they came together topersons who were not to come together, any more than one says, before he dined, when the man is not going to dine, I know not whether to grieve or laugh. Shall I convict him of ignorance, or accuse him of rashness? Just as if, supposing aperson to say, Before dining in harbour I sailed toAfrica, his words could not hold good unless he were compelled some day to dine in harbour. If I choose to say, the apostle Paul before he went toSpain was put in fetters at Rome, or (as Icertainly might) Helvidius, before he repented, was cut off by death, must Paul on being released at once go to Spain, or must Helvidiusrepent after death, although the Scripture saysIn sheol who shall give you thanks? Must we not rather understand that the preposition before, although it frequently denotes order in time, yet sometimes refers only to order in thought? So that there is no necessity, if sufficient causeintervened to prevent it, for our thoughts to be realized. When, then, the Evangelist says before they came together, he indicates the timeimmediately preceding marriage, and shows that matters were so far advanced that she who had been betrothed was on the point of becoming a wife. As though he said, before theykissed and embraced, before the consummation of marriage, she was found to be with child. And she was found to be so by none other than Joseph, who watched the swelling womb of his betrothed with the anxious glances, and, at this time, almost theprivilege, of a husband. Yet it does not follow, as the previous examples showed, that he had intercourse with Mary after her delivery, when his desires had been quenched by the fact that she had already conceived. And although we find it said to Joseph in a dream, Fear not to take Mary your wife; and again, Joseph arose from his sleep, and did as the angel of the Lordcommanded him, and took unto him his wife, no one ought to be disturbed by this, as though, inasmuch as she is called wife, she ceases to be betrothed, for we know it is usual in Scriptureto give the title to those who are betrothed. The following evidence from Deuteronomyestablishes the point. Deuteronomy Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao If the man, says the writer, find the damsel that isbetrothed in the field, and the man force her, andlie with her, he shall surely die, because he hashumbled his neighbour's wife. And in another place, Deuteronomy Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao If there be a damsel that is a virgin betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; then you shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and you shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he has humbled his neighbour's wife: so you shall put away the evilfrom the midst of you. Elsewhere also,Deuteronomy 20:7 And what man is there that hasbetrothed a wife, and has not taken her? Let him go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man take her. But if anyone feels a doubt as to why the Virgin conceived after she was betrothed rather than when she had no one betrothed to her, or, to use theScripture phrase, no husband, let me explain that there were three reasons. First, that by thegenealogy of Joseph, whose kinswoman Marywas, Mary's origin might also be shown.Secondly, that she might not in accordance with the law of Moses be stoned as an adulteress.Thirdly, that in her flight to Egypt she might have some solace, though it was that of aguardian rather than a husband. For who at thattime would have believed the Virgin's word that she had conceived of the Holy Ghost, and that the angel Gabriel had come and announced the purpose of God? And would not all have given their opinion against her as an adulteress, like Susanna? For at the present day, now that the whole world has embraced the faith, the Jewsargue that when Isaiah says, Behold, a virginshall conceive and bear a son, the Hebrew word denotes a young woman, not a virgin, that is to say, the word is Almah, not Bethulah, a position which, farther on, we shall dispute more in detail. Lastly, excepting Joseph, and Elizabeth, and Mary herself, and some few others who, we may suppose, heard the truth from them, all considered Jesus to be the son of Joseph. And so far was this the case that even theEvangelists, expressing the prevailing opinion, which is the correct rule for a historian, call him the father of the Saviour, as, for instance,Luke Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao And he (that is, Simeon) came in theSpirit into the temple: and when the parentsbrought in the child Jesus, that they might do concerning him after the custom of the law; and elsewhere, Luke Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao And his parents went every year to Jerusalem at the feast of the passover.And afterwards, And when they had fulfilled the days, as they were returning, the boy Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and his parents knew not of it. Observe also what Mary herself, who had replied to Gabriel with the words, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? says concerningJoseph, Luke Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Son, why have you thus dealt with us? Behold, your father and I sought you sorrowing. We have not here, as many maintain, the utterance of Jews or of mockers. TheEvangelists call Joseph father: Mary confesseshe was father. Not (as I said before) thatJoseph was really the father of the Saviour: but that, to preserve the reputation of Mary, he was regarded by all as his father, although, before he heard the admonition of the angel,Matthew Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto you Mary your wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost, he had thoughts of putting her away privily; which shows that he well knew that the child conceived was not his. But we have said enough, more with the aim of imparting instruction than of answering an opponent, to show why Joseph is called the father of ourLord, and why Mary is called Joseph's wife. This also at once answers the question whycertain persons are called his brethren.
5. This, however, is a point which will find its proper place further on. We must now hasten to other matters. The passage for discussion now is, And Joseph arose from his sleep, and did as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took unto him his wife and knew her not till she had brought forth a son, and he called his nameJesus. Here, first of all, it is quite needless for our opponent to show so elaborately that the word know has reference to coition, rather than to intellectual apprehension: as though anyone denied it, or any person in his senses could everimagine the folly which Helvidius takes pains to refute. Then he would teach us that the adverbtill implies a fixed and definite time, and when that is fulfilled, he says the event takes place which previously did not take place, as in the case before us, and knew her not till she had brought forth a son. It is clear, says he, that she was known after she brought forth, and that that knowledge was only delayed by her engendering a son. To defend his position he piles up text upon text, waves his sword like a blind-folded gladiator, rattles his noisy tongue, and ends with wounding no one but himself.
6. Our reply is briefly this-the words knew andtill in the language of Holy Scripture are capable of a double meaning. As to the former, he himself gave us a dissertation to show that it must be referred to sexual intercourse, and no one doubts that it is often used of theknowledge of the understanding, as, for instance, the boy Jesus tarried behind inJerusalem, and his parents knew it not. Now we have to prove that just as in the one case he has followed the usage of Scripture, so with regard to the word till he is utterly refuted by the authority of the same Scripture, which often denotes by its use a fixed time (he himself told us so), frequently time without limitation, as when God by the mouth of the prophet says tocertain persons, Isaiah 46:4 Even to old age I am he. Will He cease to be God when they have grown old? And the Saviour in the Gospel tells the Apostles, Matthew Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Will theLord then after the end of the world has come forsake His disciples, and at the very time when seated on twelve thrones they are to judge the twelve tribes of Israel will they be bereft of the company of their Lord? Again Paul the Apostlewriting to the Corinthians says, Christ the first-fruits, afterward they that are Christ's, at his coming. Then comes the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father, when he shall have put down all rule, and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he has put all enemies under his feet. Granted that the passage relates to our Lord's human nature, we do not deny that the words are spoken of Him who endured the cross and is commanded to sit afterwards on the right hand. What does he mean then by saying, for he must reign, till he has put all enemies under his feet? Is the Lord to reign only until His enemies begin to be under His feet, and once they are under His feet willHe cease to reign? Of course His reign will then commence in its fullness when His enemies begin to be under His feet. David also in the fourth Song of Ascents speaks thus, Behold, as the eyes of servants look unto the hand of their master, as the eyes of a maiden unto the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look unto the Lord ourGod, until he have mercy upon us. Will theprophet, then, look unto the Lord until he obtain mercy, and when mercy is obtained will he turn his eyes down to the ground? Although elsewhere he says, My eyes fail for yoursalvation, and for the word of your righteousness.I could accumulate countless instances of this usage, and cover the verbosity of our assailant with a cloud of proofs; I shall, however, add only a few, and leave the reader to discover like ones for himself.
7. The word of God says in Genesis, And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which were in their hand, and the rings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem, and lost them until this day.Likewise at the end of Deuteronomy,Deuteronomy 34:5-6 So Moses the servant of theLord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord. And he buried him in the valley, in the land of Moab over against Beth-peor: but no man knows of his sepulchre unto this day.We must certainly understand by this day thetime of the composition of the history, whether you prefer the view that Moses was the author of the Pentateuch or that Ezra re-edited it. In either case I make no objection. The question now is whether the words unto this day are to be referred to the time of publishing or writing the books, and if so it is for him to show, now that so many years have rolled away since that day, that either the idols hidden beneath the oak have been found, or the grave of Mosesdiscovered; for he obstinately maintains that what does not happen so long as the point oftime indicated by until and unto has not been attained, begins to be when that point has been reached. He would do well to pay heed to the idiom of Holy Scripture, and understand with us, (it was here he stuck in the mud) that some things which might seem ambiguous if not expressed are plainly intimated, while others are left to the exercise of our intellect. For if, while the event was still fresh in memory andmen were living who had seen Moses, it was possible for his grave to be unknown, much more may this be the case after the lapse of so many ages. And in the same way must we interpret what we are told concerning Joseph. The Evangelist pointed out a circumstance which might have given rise to some scandal, namely, that Mary was not known by her husband until she was delivered, and he did so that we might be the more certain that she from whom Joseph refrained while there was room to doubt the import of the vision was not knownafter her delivery.
8. In short, what I want to know is why Josephrefrained until the day of her delivery? Helvidiuswill of course reply, because he heard the angelsay, Matthew Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And in turn we rejoin that he had certainly heard him say, Matthew Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao, thou son of David, fear not to take unto you Mary your wife. The reason why he was forbidden to forsake his wife was that he might not think her an adulteress. Is it true then, that he was ordered not to have intercourse with his wife? Is it not plain that the warning was given him that he might not be separated from her? And could the just man dare, he says, to think of approaching her, when he heard that the Son of God was in her womb? Excellent! We are tobelieve then that the same man who gave so much credit to a dream that he did not dare to touch his wife, yet afterwards, when he had learned from the shepherds that the angel of the Lord had come from heaven and said to them, Be not afraid: for behold I bring you goodtidings of great joy which shall be to all people, for there is born to you this day in the city of David aSaviour, which is Christ the Lord; and when theheavenly host had joined with him in the chorusLuke Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among men of good will; and when he had seen just Simeon embrace the infant and exclaim, Now let your servant depart, O Lord, according to your word in peace: for my eyes have seen your salvation; and when he had seenAnna the prophetess, the Magi, the Star, Herod, the angels; Helvidius, I say, would have usbelieve that Joseph, though well acquainted with such surprising wonders, dared to touch the temple of God, the abode of the Holy Ghost, the mother of his Lord? Mary at all events kept all these sayings in her heart. You cannot for shame say Joseph did not know of them, forLuke tells us, Luke Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao His father and mother were marvelling at the things which were spoken concerning Him. And yet you with marvellous effrontery contend that the reading of the Greekmanuscripts is corrupt, although it is that which nearly all the Greek writers have left us in their books, and not only so, but several of the Latinwriters have taken the words the same way. Nor need we now consider the variations in the copies, since the whole record both of the Old and New Testament has since that time beentranslated into Latin, and we must believe that the water of the fountain flows purer than that of the stream.
9. Helvidius will answer, What you say, is in my opinion mere trifling. Your arguments are so much waste of time, and the discussion shows more subtlety than truth. Why could not Scripture say, as it said of Thamar and Judah, Genesis Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao 'And he took his wife, and knew her again no more'? Could not Matthew find words to express his meaning? 'He knew her not,' he says, 'until she brought forth a son.' He did then, after her delivery, know her, whom he had refrained from knowing until she was delivered.
10. If you are so contentious, your own thoughts shall now prove your master. You must not allow any time to intervene between delivery and intercourse. You must not say, If awoman conceive seed and bear a man child, then she shall be unclean seven days; as in the days of the separation of her sickness shall she beunclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days. She shall touch no hallowed thing,and so forth. On your showing, Joseph must at once approach, her, and be subject toJeremiah's Jeremiah 5:8 reproof, They were asmad horses in respect of women: every one neighed after his neighbour's wife. Otherwise, how can the words stand good, he knew her not, till she had brought forth a son, if he waits after the time of another purifying has expired, if hislust must brook another long delay of forty days? The mother must go unpurged from herchild-bed taint, and the wailing infant be attended to by the midwives, while the husbandclasps his exhausted wife. Thus forsooth must their married life begin so that the Evangelistmay not be convicted of falsehood. But Godforbid that we should think thus of the Saviour'smother and of a just man. No midwife assisted at His birth; no women's officiousness intervened. With her own hands she wrapped Him in the swaddling clothes, herself both mother and midwife, Luke 2:7 and laid Him, we are told, in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn; a statement which, on the one hand, refutes the ravings of the apocryphalaccounts, for Mary herself wrapped Him in the swaddling clothes, and on the other makes the voluptuous notion of Helvidius impossible, since there was no place suitable for marriedintercourse in the inn.
11. An ample reply has now been given to what he advanced respecting the words before they came together, and he knew her not till she had brought forth a son. I must now proceed, if my reply is to follow the order of his argument, to the third point. He will have it that Mary bore other sons, and he quotes the passage, AndJoseph also went up to the city of David to enrollhimself with Mary, who was betrothed to him, being great with child. And it came to pass, while they were there, the days were fulfilled that she should be delivered, and she brought forth herfirst-born son. From this he endeavours to show that the term first-born is inapplicable except to a person who has brothers, just as he is calledonly begotten who is the only son of his parents.
12. Our position is this: Every only begotten son is a first-born son, but not every first-born is an only begotten. By first-born we understand not only one who is succeeded by others, but one who has had no predecessor. Numbers Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao, says the Lord to Aaron, that opens the womb of all flesh which they offer unto theLord, both of man and beast, shall be yours: nevertheless the first born of man shall you surelyredeem, and the firstling of unclean beasts shall you redeem. The word of God defines first-bornas everything that opens the womb. Otherwise, if the title belongs to such only as have younger brothers, the priests cannot claim the firstlingsuntil their successors have been begotten, lest, perchance, in case there were no subsequent delivery it should prove to be the first-born but not merely the only begotten. Numbers Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao And those that are to be redeemed of them from a month old shall you redeem, according to your estimation for the money of five shekels, after theshekel of the sanctuary (the same is twenty gerahs). But the firstling of an ox, or the firstling of a sheep, or the firstling of a goat, you shall notredeem; they are holy. The word of God compels me to dedicate to God everything that opens the womb if it be the firstling of clean beasts: if ofunclean beasts, I must redeem it, and give the value to the priest. I might reply and say, Why do you tie me down to the short space of a month? Why do you speak of the first-born, when I cannot tell whether there are brothers to follow? Wait until the second is born. I owe nothing to the priest, unless the birth of a second should make the one I previously had the first-born. Will not the very points of the letters cry out against me and convict me of my folly, and declare that first-born is a title of him who opens the womb, and is not to be restricted to him who has brothers? And, then, to take the case of John: we are agreed that he was an only begotten son: I want to know if he was not also a first-born son, and whether he was not absolutely amenable to the law. There can be no doubt in the matter. At all events Scripturethus speaks of the Saviour, And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moseswere fulfilled, they brought him up to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord (as it is written in the lawof the Lord, every male that opens the womb shall be called holy to the Lord) and to offer a sacrificeaccording to that which is said in the law of theLord, a pair of turtle-doves, or two young pigeons.If this law relates only to the first-born, and there can be no first-born unless there aresuccessors, no one ought to be bound by thelaw of the first-born who cannot tell whether there will be successors. But inasmuch as he who has no younger brothers is bound by thelaw of the first-born, we gather that he is called the first-born who opens the womb and who has been preceded by none, not he whose birth is followed by that of a younger brother. Moseswrites in Exodus, Exodus Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao And it came to pass at midnight, that the Lord smote all the first-born in the land of Egypt, from the first-born ofPharaoh that sat on his throne unto the first-bornof the captive that was in the dungeon: And all thefirst-born of cattle. Tell me, were they who then perished by the destroyer, only your first-born, or, something more, did they include the only begotten? If only they who have brothers are called first-born, the only begotten were savedfrom death. And if it be the fact that the only begotten were slain, it was contrary to the sentence pronounced, for the only begotten to die as well as the first-born. You must either release the only begotten from the penalty, and in that case you become ridiculous: or, if you allow that they were slain, we gain our point, though we have not to thank you for it, that only begotten sons also are called first-born.
13. The last proposition of Helvidius was this, and it is what he wished to show when he treated of the first-born, that brethren of theLord are mentioned in the Gospels. For example, Matthew Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, seeking to speak to him. And elsewhere, John Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren. And again, John 7:3-4 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go intoJudæa, that your disciples also may behold the works which you do. For no man does anything in secret, and himself seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, manifest yourself to the world. And John adds, John 7:5 For even his brethren did not believe in him. Mark also andMatthew, And coming into his own country he taught them in their synagogues, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence has this man this wisdom, and mighty works? Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And his brethren James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us? Luke also in the Acts of the Apostlesrelates, Acts Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao These all with one accord continued steadfastly in prayer, with the womenand Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren. Paul the Apostle also is at one with them, and witnesses to their historical accuracy, And I went up by revelation, but other of the apostles saw I none, save Peter and Jamesthe Lord's brother. And again in another place,1 Corinthians 9:4-5 Have we no right to eat and drink? Have we no right to lead about wives even as the rest of the Apostles, and the brethren of theLord, and Cephas? And for fear any one should not allow the evidence of the Jews, since it was they from whose mouth we hear the name of His brothers, but should maintain that His countrymen were deceived by the same error in respect of the brothers into which they fell in their belief about the father, Helvidius utters a sharp note of warning and cries, The same names are repeated by the Evangelists in another place, and the same persons are there brethren of the Lord and sons of Mary. Matthew says, And many women were there (doubtless at the Lord'scross) beholding from afar, which had followedJesus from Galilee, ministering unto him: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of the sons ofZebedee. Mark also, And there were also womenbeholding from afar, among whom were both MaryMagdalene, and Mary the mother of James the Less and of Joses, and Salome; and in the same place shortly after, And many other womenwhich came up with him unto Jerusalem. Luketoo, Luke Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Now there were Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them.
14. My reason for repeating the same thing again and again is to prevent him from raising afalse issue and crying out that I have withheld such passages as make for him, and that his view has been torn to shreds not by evidence ofScripture, but by evasive arguments. Observe, he says, James and Joses are sons of Mary, and the same persons who were called brethren by the Jews. Observe, Mary is the mother ofJames the Less and of Joses. And James is called the less to distinguish him from Jamesthe greater, who was the son of Zebedee, asMark elsewhere states, And Mary Magdaleneand Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid. And when the sabbath was past, they bought spices, that they might come and anointhim. And, as might be expected, he says: What a poor and impious view we take of Mary, if we hold that when other women were concerned about the burial of Jesus, she His mother was absent; or if we invent some kind of a secondMary; and all the more because the Gospel of S.John testifies that she was there present, when theLord upon the cross commended her, as His mother and now a widow, to the care of John. Or must we suppose that the Evangelists were so far mistaken and so far mislead us as to call Mary the mother of those who were known to the Jews as brethren of Jesus?
15. What darkness, what raging madnessrushing to its own destruction! You say that the mother of the Lord was present at the cross, you say that she was entrusted to the discipleJohn on account of her widowhood and solitary condition: as if upon your own showing, she had not four sons, and numerous daughters, with whose solace she might comfort herself? You also apply to her the name of widow which is not found in Scripture. And although you quote all instances in the Gospels, the words ofJohn alone displease you. You say in passing that she was present at the cross, that you may not appear to have omitted it on purpose, and yet not a word about the women who were with her. I could pardon you if you were ignorant, but I see you have a reason for your silence. Let me point out then what John says, John Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao But there were standing by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife ofClopas, and Mary Magdalene. No one doubtsthat there were two apostles called by the nameJames, James the son of Zebedee, and Jamesthe son of Alphæus. Do you intend the comparatively unknown James the Less, who is called in Scripture the son of Mary, not however of Mary the mother of our Lord, to be anapostle, or not? If he is an apostle, he must be the son of Alphæus and a believer in Jesus, For neither did his brethren believe in him. If he is not an apostle, but a third James (who he can be I cannot tell), how can he be regarded as theLord's brother, and how, being a third, can he be called less to distinguish him from greater, whengreater and less are used to denote the relationsexisting, not between three, but between two?Notice, moreover, that the Lord's brother is anapostle, since Paul says, Galatians Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to visitCephas, and tarried with him fifteen days. But other of the Apostles saw I none, save James theLord's brother. And in the same Epistle,Galatians 2:9 And when they perceived the gracethat was given unto me, James and Cephas andJohn, who were reputed to be pillars, etc. And that you may not suppose this James to be the son of Zebedee, you have only to read the Actsof the Apostles, and you will find that the latter had already been slain by Herod. The only conclusion is that the Mary who is described as the mother of James the Less was the wife ofAlphæus and sister of Mary the Lord's mother, the one who is called by John the EvangelistMary of Clopas, whether after her father, orkindred, or for some other reason. But if you think they are two persons because elsewhere we read, Mary the mother of James the Less,and here, Mary of Clopas, you have still to learn that it is customary in Scripture for the sameindividual to bear different names. Raguel,Moses' father-in-law, is also called Jethro.Gedeon, without any apparent reason for the change, all at once becomes Jerubbaal. Ozias, king of Judah, has an alternative, Azarias.Mount Tabor is called Itabyrium. Again Hermonis called by the Phenicians Sanior, and by theAmorites Sanir. The same tract of country isknown by three names, Negebh, Teman, andDarom in Ezekiel. Peter is also called Simon andCephas. Judas the zealot in another Gospel is called Thaddaeus. And there are numerous other examples which the reader will be able tocollect for himself from every part of Scripture.
16. Now here we have the explanation of what I am endeavouring to show, how it is that the sons of Mary, the sister of our Lord's mother, who though not formerly believers afterwards did believe, can be called brethren of the Lord.Possibly the case might be that one of the brethren believed immediately while the others did not believe until long after, and that oneMary was the mother of James and Joses, namely, Mary of Clopas, who is the same as the wife of Alphæus, the other, the mother of James the Less. In any case, if she (the latter) had been the Lord's mother S. John would have allowed her the title, as everywhere else, and would not by calling her the mother of other sons have given a wrong impression. But at this stage I do not wish to argue for or against the supposition that Mary the wife of Clopas andMary the mother of James and Joses were different women, provided it is clearly understood that Mary the mother of James andJoses was not the same person as the Lord'smother. How then, says Helvidius, do you make out that they were called the Lord's brethren who were not his brethren? I will show how that is. In Holy Scripture there are four kinds of brethren- by nature, race, kindred, love.Instances of brethren by nature are Esau andJacob, the twelve patriarchs, Andrew and Peter,James and John. As to race, all Jews are called brethren of one another, as in Deuteronomy,Deuteronomy Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao If your brother, an Hebrew man, or an Hebrew woman, be sold unto you, and serve you six years; then in the seventh year you shall let him go free from you. And in the same book,Deuteronomy Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao You shall in anywise set him king over you, whom the Lord your God shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set king over you; you may not put a foreigner over you, which is not your brother. And again,Deuteronomy 22:1 You shall not see your brother's ox or his sheep go astray, and hide yourself from them: you shall surely bring them again unto your brother. And if your brother be not near unto you, or if you know him not, then you shall bring it home to your house, and it shall be with you until your brother seek after it, and you shall restore it to him again. And the Apostle Paul says,Romans 9:3-4 I could wish that I myself wereanathema from Christ for my brethren's sake, mykinsmen according to the flesh: who areIsraelites. Moreover they are called brethren bykindred who are of one family, that is πατρία,which corresponds to the Latin paternitas, because from a single root a numerous progeny proceeds. In Genesis Genesis 13:8, 11 we read,And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray you, between me and you, and between myherdmen and your herdmen; for we are brethren.And again, So Lot chose him all the plain ofJordan, and Lot journeyed east: and they separated each from his brother. Certainly Lotwas not Abraham's brother, but the son ofAbraham's brother Aram. For Terah begotAbraham and Nahor and Aram: and Aram begotLot. Again we read, Genesis 12:4 And Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out ofHaran. And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son. But if you still doubt whether a nephew can be called a son, let me give you an instance. Genesis Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he led forth his trained men, born in his house, three hundred and eighteen. And after describing the night attack and the slaughter, he adds, And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brotherLot. Let this suffice by way of proof of my assertion. But for fear you may make somecavilling objection, and wriggle out of your difficulty like a snake, I must bind you fast with the bonds of proof to stop your hissing and complaining, for I know you would like to say you have been overcome not so much byScripture truth as by intricate arguments.Jacob, the son of Isaac and Rebecca, when infear of his brother's treachery he had gone toMesopotamia, drew near and rolled away the stone from the mouth of the well, and watered the flocks of Laban, his mother's brother.Genesis Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao And Jacob kissed Rachel, and lifted up his voice, and wept. And Jacob told Rachel that he was her father's brother, and that he wasRebekah's son. Here is an example of the rule already referred to, by which a nephew is called a brother. And again, Genesis Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Laban said unto Jacob. Because you are my brother, should you therefore serve me for nought? Tell me what shall your wages be. And so, when, at the end of twenty years, without the knowledge of his father-in-law and accompanied by his wives and sons he was returning to his country, on Labanovertaking him in the mountain of Gilead and failing to find the idols which Rachel hid among the baggage, Jacob answered and said toLaban, Genesis Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao What is my trespass? What is my sin, that you have so hotly pursued after me? Whereas you have felt all about my stuff, what have you found of all your household stuff? Set it here before my brethren and your brethren, that they may judge between us two. Tell me who are those brothers of Jacob and Laban who were present there? Esau, Jacob's brother, wascertainly not there, and Laban, the son ofBethuel, had no brothers although he had a sister Rebecca.
17. Innumerable instances of the same kind are to be found in the sacred books. But, to be brief, I will return to the last of the four classes of brethren, those, namely, who are brethren by affection, and these again fall into two divisions, those of the spiritual and those of the general relationship. I say spiritual because all of usChristians are called brethren, as in the verse,Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity. And in another psalm the Saviour says, I will declare your name unto my brethren. And elsewhere,John Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Go unto my brethren and say to them. I say also general, because we are all children of one Father, there is a like bond of brotherhood between us all. Isaiah 66:5 Tell these who hateyou, says the prophet, you are our brethren.And the Apostle writing to the Corinthians:1 Corinthians Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao If any man that is named brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner: with such a one no, not to eat. I now ask to which class you consider the Lord's brethren in the Gospel must be assigned. They are brethren by nature, you say. But Scripture does not say so; it calls them neither sons of Mary, nor of Joseph. Shall we say they are brethren by race? But it is absurd to suppose that a few Jews were called His brethren when all Jews of the time might upon this principle have borne the title. Were they brethren by virtue of close intimacy and the union of heart and mind? If that were so, who were more truly His brethren than the apostleswho received His private instruction and were called by Him His mother and His brethren? Again, if all men, as such, were His brethren, it would have been foolish to deliver a special message, Behold, your brethren seek you, for allmen alike were entitled to the name. The only alternative is to adopt the previous explanation and understand them to be called brethren in virtue of the bond of kindred, not of love and sympathy, nor by prerogative of race, nor yet bynature. Just as Lot was called Abraham'sbrother, and Jacob Laban's, just as the daughters of Zelophehad received a lot among their brethren, just as Abraham himself had to wife Sarah his sister, for he says, Genesis Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao is indeed my sister, on the father's side, not on the mother's, that is to say, she was the daughter of his brother, not of his sister. Otherwise, what are we to say of Abraham, ajust man, taking to wife the daughter of his own father? Scripture, in relating the history of themen of early times, does not outrage our ears by speaking of the enormity in express terms, but prefers to leave it to be inferred by the reader: and God afterwards gives to the prohibition the sanction of the law, and threatens, Leviticus 18:9 He who takes his sister, born of his father, or of his mother, and beholds her nakedness, has commited abomination, he shall be utterly destroyed. He has uncovered his sister's nakedness, he shall bear his sin.
18. There are things which, in your extremeignorance, you had never read, and therefore you neglected the whole range of Scripture and employed your madness in outraging the Virgin, like the man in the story who being unknown to everybody and finding that he could devise nogood deed by which to gain renown, burned thetemple of Diana: and when no one revealed thesacrilegious act, it is said that he himself went up and down proclaiming that he was the man who had applied the fire. The rulers of Ephesuswere curious to know what made him do this thing, whereupon he replied that if he could not have fame for good deeds, all men should give him credit for bad ones. Grecian history relates the incident. But you do worse. You have set on fire the temple of the Lord's body, you have defiled the sanctuary of the Holy Spirit from which you are determined to make a team of four brethren and a heap of sisters come forth. In a word, joining in the chorus of the Jews, you say, Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And his brethren James, andJoseph, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us? The word all would not be used if there were not a crowd of them. Pray tell me, who, before you appeared, was acquainted with this blasphemy? Who thought the theory worth two-pence? You have gained your desire, and have become notorious by crime. For myself who am your opponent, although we live in the same city, I don't know, as the saying is, whether you are white or black. I pass over faults of diction which abound in every book you write. I say not a word about your absurd introduction. Good heavens! I do not ask for eloquence, since, having none yourself, you applied for a supply of it to your brotherCraterius. I do not ask for grace of style, I look for purity of soul: for with Christians it is the greatest of solecisms and of vices of style to introduce anything base either in word oraction. I have come to the conclusion of my argument. I will deal with you as though I had as yet prevailed nothing; and you will find yourself on the horns of a dilemma. It is clear that our Lord's brethren bore the name in the same way that Joseph was called his father:Luke Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao I and your father sought you sorrowing.It was His mother who said this, not the Jews. The Evangelist himself relates that His father and His mother were marvelling at the things which were spoken concerning Him, and there are similar passages which we have already quoted in which Joseph and Mary are called hisparents. Seeing that you have been foolish enough to persuade yourself that the Greekmanuscripts are corrupt, you will perhaps plead the diversity of readings. I therefore come to theGospel of John, and there it is plainly written,John Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Philip finds Nathanael, and says unto him, We have found him of whom Moses in thelaw, and the prophets did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. You will certainly find this in your manuscript. Now tell me, how is Jesus the son of Joseph when it is clear that He was begotten of the Holy Ghost? Was Joseph Histrue father? Dull as you are, you will not venture to say that. Was he His reputed father? If so, let the same rule be applied to them when they are called brethren, that you apply to Joseph when he is called father.
19. Now that I have cleared the rocks andshoals I must spread sail and make all speed to reach his epilogue. Feeling himself to be asmatterer, he there produces Tertullian as awitness and quotes the words of Victorinusbishop of Petavium. Of Tertullian I say no more than that he did not belong to the Church. But as regards Victorinus, I assert what has already been proved from the Gospel- that he spoke of the brethren of the Lord not as being sons ofMary, but brethren in the sense I have explained, that is to say, brethren in point ofkinship not by nature. We are, however, spending our strength on trifles, and, leaving the fountain of truth, are following the tiny streams of opinion. Might I not array against you the whole series of ancient writers?Ignatius, Polycarp, Irenæus, Justin Martyr, and many other apostolic and eloquent men, who against Ebion, Theodotus of Byzantium, andValentinus, held these same views, and wrote volumes replete with wisdom. If you had ever read what they wrote, you would be a wiser man. But I think it better to reply briefly to each point than to linger any longer and extend my book to an undue length.
20. I now direct the attack against the passage in which, wishing to show your cleverness, you institute a comparison between virginity andmarriage. I could not forbear smiling, and I thought of the proverb, did you ever see a cameldance? Are virgins better, you ask, thanAbraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who were marriedmen? Are not infants daily fashioned by the hands of God in the wombs of their mothers? And if so, are we bound to blush at the thought of Maryhaving a husband after she was delivered? If they find any disgrace in this, they ought not consistently even to believe that God was born of the Virgin by natural delivery. For according to them there is more dishonour in a virgin giving birth to God by the organs of generation, than in avirgin being joined to her own husband after she has been delivered. Add, if you like, Helvidius, the other humiliations of nature, the womb for nine months growing larger, the sickness, the delivery, the blood, the swaddling-clothes. Picture to yourself the infant in the enveloping membranes. Introduce into your picture the hard manger, the wailing of the infant, thecircumcision on the eighth day, the time of purification, so that he may be proved to beunclean. We do not blush, we are not put to silence. The greater the humiliations He endured for me, the more I owe Him. And when you have given every detail, you will be able to produce nothing more shameful than the cross, which we confess, in which we believe, and by which we triumph over our enemies.
21. But as we do not deny what is written, so we do reject what is not written. We believe thatGod was born of the Virgin, because we read it. That Mary was married after she brought forth, we do not believe, because we do not read it. Nor do we say this to condemn marriage, forvirginity itself is the fruit of marriage; but because when we are dealing with saints we must not judge rashly. If we adopt possibility as the standard of judgment, we might maintain that Joseph had several wives becauseAbraham had, and so had Jacob, and that theLord's brethren were the issue of those wives, an invention which some hold with a rashness which springs from audacity not from piety. You say that Mary did not continue a virgin: I claim still more, that Joseph himself on account of Mary was a virgin, so that from a virginwedlock a virgin son was born. For if as a holyman he does not come under the imputation of fornication, and it is nowhere written that he had another wife, but was the guardian of Marywhom he was supposed to have to wife rather than her husband, the conclusion is that he who was thought worthy to be called father of theLord, remained a virgin.
22. And now that I am about to institute a comparison between virginity and marriage, I beseech my readers not to suppose that in praising virginity I have in the least disparagedmarriage, and separated the saints of the Old Testament from those of the New, that is to say, those who had wives and those who altogether refrained from the embraces of women: I rather think that in accordance with the difference intime and circumstance one rule applied to the former, another to us upon whom the ends of the world have come. So long as that lawremained, Genesis Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao Be fruitful, and multiply and replenish the earth; and Cursed is the barrenwoman that bears not seed in Israel, they allmarried and were given in marriage, left father and mother, and became one flesh. But once in tones of thunder the words were heard,1 Corinthians Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao The time is shortened, that henceforth those that have wives may be as though they had none: cleaving to the Lord, we are made one spirit with Him. And why?Because He that is unmarried is careful for the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord: but he that is married is careful for the things of the world, how he may please his wife. And there is a difference also between the wife and thevirgin. She that is unmarried is careful for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married is careful for the things of the world, how she may please her husband. Why do you cavil? Why do you resist? The vessel of election says this; he tells us that there is a difference between the wife and the virgin. Observe what the happiness of that state must be in which even the distinction of sex is lost. The virgin is no longer called awoman. 1 Corinthians Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao She that is unmarried is careful for the things of the Lord, that she may beholy both in body and in spirit. A virgin is definedas she that is holy in body and in spirit, for it is no good to have virgin flesh if a woman bemarried in mind.
But she that is married is careful for the things of the world, how she may please her husband. Do you think there is no difference between one who spends her time in prayer and fasting, and one who must, at her husband's approach, make up her countenance, walk with mincing gait, and feign a show of endearment? Thevirgin's aim is to appear less comely; she willwrong herself so as to hide her naturalattractions. The married woman has the paint laid on before her mirror, and, to the insult of her Maker, strives to acquire something more than her natural beauty. Then come theprattling of infants, the noisy household, children watching for her word and waiting for her kiss, the reckoning up of expenses, the preparation to meet the outlay. On one side you will see a company of cooks, girded for the onslaught and attacking the meat: there you may hear the hum of a multitude of weavers.Meanwhile a message is delivered that the husband and his friends have arrived. The wife, like a swallow, flies all over the house. She has to see to everything. Is the sofa smooth? Is the pavement swept? Are the flowers in the cups? Is dinner ready? Tell me, pray, where amid all this is there room for the thought of God? Are thesehappy homes? Where there is the beating of drums, the noise and clatter of pipe and lute, theclanging of cymbals, can any fear of God be found? The parasite is snubbed and feels proudof the honour. Enter next the half-naked victims of the passions, a mark for every lustful eye. The unhappy wife must either take pleasure in them, and perish, or be displeased, and provoke her husband. Hence arises discord, the seed-plot of divorce. Or suppose you find me a house where these things are unknown, which is a raraavis indeed! Yet even there the very management of the household, the education of the children, the wants of the husband, the correction of the servants, cannot fail to call away the mind from the thought of God.Genesis Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao It had ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women: so the Scripture says, and afterwards Abraham received the command, Genesis Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao In all that Sarah says unto you, hearken unto her voice. She who is not subject to the anxiety and pain of child-bearing and having passed the change of life has ceased to perform the functions of a woman, is freed from the curse of God: nor is her desire to her husband, but on the contrary her husband becomes subject to her, and the voice of theLord commands him, In all that Sarah says unto you, hearken unto her voice. Thus they begin to have time for prayer. For so long as the debt ofmarriage is paid, earnest prayer is neglected.
23. I do not deny that holy women are found both among widows and those who have husbands; but they are such as have ceased to be wives, or such as, even in the close bond ofmarriage, imitate virgin chastity. The Apostle,Christ speaking in him, briefly bore witness to this when he said, 1 Corinthians Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao She that is unmarried is careful for the things of the Lord, how she may please the Lord: but she that is married is careful for the things of the world, how she may please her husband. He leaves us the free exercise of our reason in the matter. He lays nonecessity upon anyone nor leads anyone into a snare: he only persuades to that which is proper when he wishes all men to be as himself. He had not, it is true, a commandment from theLord respecting virginity, for that gracesurpasses the unassisted power of man, and it would have worn an air of immodesty to forcemen to fly in the face of nature, and to say in other words, I want you to be what the angelsare. It is this angelic purity which secures tovirginity its highest reward, and the Apostlemight have seemed to despise a course of life which involves no guilt. Nevertheless in the immediate context he adds, 1 Corinthians Mommy D opens up to Korina on Pacquiao But I give my judgment, as one that has obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful. I think therefore that this is good by reason of the present distress, namely, that it is good for a man to be as he is.What is meant by present distress? Woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days! The reason why the wood grows up is that it may be cut down. The field is sown that it may be reaped. The world is already full, and the population is too large for the soil. Every day we are being cut down by war, snatched away by disease, swallowed up by shipwreck, although we go to law with one another about the fences of our property. It is only one addition to the general rule which is made by those who follow the Lamb, and who have not defiled their garments, for they have continued in their virgin state. Notice the meaning of defiling. I shall not venture to explain it, for fear Helvidius may be abusive. I agree with you, when you say, that some virginsare nothing but tavern women; I say still more, that even adulteresses may be found among them, and, you will no doubt be still more surprised to hear, that some of the clergy are inn-keepers and some monks unchaste. Who does not at once understand that a tavernwoman cannot be a virgin, nor an adulterer amonk, nor a clergy-man a tavern-keeper? Are we to blame virginity if its counterfeit is at fault? For my part, to pass over other persons and come to the virgin, I maintain that she who is engaged in huckstering, though for anything Iknow she may be a virgin in body, is no longer one in spirit.
24. I have become rhetorical, and havedisported myself a little like a platform orator.You compelled me, Helvidius; for, brightly as theGospel shines at the present day, you will have it that equal glory attaches to virginity and to the marriage state. And because I think that, finding the truth too strong for you, you will turn to disparaging my life and abusing mycharacter (it is the way of weak women to talktittle-tattle in corners when they have been put down by their masters), I shall anticipate you. I assure you that I shall regard your railing as a high distinction, since the same lips that assail me have disparaged Mary, and I, a servant of the Lord, am favoured with the same barking eloquence as His mother.
janekerigan235 bethrothal ata ang nangyari sa Blessed Virgin Mary at ni St. Joseph.
janekerigan235 bethrothal ata ang nangyari sa Blessed Virgin Mary at ni St. Joseph.
hindi sa religion yan,ang paniniwala mo kay God,at tama si mama D pag nagdasal ka ikaw mag isa at sa loob nang kwarto mo na nag iisa pag nagdadasal ka...
This message that I just mentioned is for Pacquiao.
amen
Nice mommy de Catholic Kang tunay
My second question is, have you ever heard the priest made a sermon with regards to NOT to worship, bow down, and pray to idols, and carved images of beings both heaven and earth? If you can give me a concrete answer then I can say that I am wrong with what I have faith in. But if you can't then it's just formal for you not to just state comments that you can't seem to back up with facts.
dapat lahat ng lumalabas sa bibig ay blessing sa nkakarinig..at sa ibang tao.
Tama c mommy d
Pinarusahan ni god jesus catholic orig christian c manny p
Sa pag change ng religion pag talikod sa catholic faith
Toto o c god jesus on catholic faith
As they say "Practice what you preach" but they don't.
Like any other religion you are in, it's a form of BUSINESS.
Nanay pa din sya ano pa man ang mangyari
Its not about religion its about relation to god❤❤❤
babalik na sa CATHOLIC SI PAcman kasi yung pastor nya may naka debating CFD OR CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDER........... PATI PASTOR NIYA NAG DISISYON DIN SUMAMA SA KATOLIKO.
Tama c momy Dionesia...
Bible means library of books. Pero para sa ating mga christian it means word of god and truth about god.
boxing and religion do not mix .. somebody teach this crazy lady the facts of life ..
Correction:Mahal
Yes,Graces received bec. Pacquiao honored Jesus'mother Mother Mary.You don't understand,what consecrate means.This was I think Mommy Dionisia's promise of devotion to the Blessed Mother.So,once you turned down that promise Jesus turns you down , too.You should honor the Mother of Our Lord and Savior.She is and always be THE MOTHER OF THE TRUE LIVING GOD,JESUS CHRIST OUR SAVIOR.
Dear, Catholics.
Mary wasn't a perpetual virgin.
CONSUMMATE - To complete (a marriage) with the first act of sexual intercourse after the ceremony.
But of course Joseph had to wait until she gave birth.
Matthew 1:24-25
"When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus."
This explains why people from their hometown who didn't believe in Jesus talked about his brothers and sisters.
Matthew 13:54-58
"Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?” they asked. “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joses, Simon and Jude? Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?” And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home.” And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith."
Jesus even repeatedly taught that God's followers are more important than Mary.
Matthew 12:46-50
"While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.” He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
Luke 11:27-28
"And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
Nowhere in the Bible other than other people did Jesus Himself even refer to her as His mother but calls her Woman everytime He is talking directly to her.
John 2:3-4
"And when they ran out of wine, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.” Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.”
In that verse, Jesus didn't even obey Mary. Even Mary herself said she needs a Savior. Who needs a Savior? Sinners.
Luke 1:46-47
And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour,"
God said to stop praying in repetitions... (especially to Mary)
Matthew 6:7
"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."
and the graven images...
Exodus 20:4
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth"
(By the way, your statues have it wrong-Jesus wasn't a white man, He had olive skin!)
and the treating Catholic doctrine equal to God's Word...
Mark 7:5-9
"Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?” He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men -the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.” He said to them, “ All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition."
and telling people to follow Catholicism because your works are the most important...
Ephesians 2:8-9
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast."
Only Jesus is the intercessor/mediator.
1 Timothy 2:5
“For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”
Romans 8:34
“Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died-more than that, who was raised to life-is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us”
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."
@@hanatim2 mother knows best you see God is still displaining him for he turned away from his Faith and devotion to Mother Mary. That's he lost from his recent fight with Ugas who is a Catholic.
haha. . nga-nga. .relax lang mommy dionisia. . heart nimo matagak. .
Tama ka jan Mr. allan, dapat respituhin nya yun,, subalit ina rin siya at nakakaunwa, wala naman syang kasalanan dahil mangmang sya sa pagkaakala ng iba.
Marami ng namang nagbabasa ng bible, yun iba natapos na nga pagbasa ang buong bible subalit hindi rin nakaunawa. ang lihim na sinabi ni jesus.
tama ka jan, dahil lakas na lamang ang natitira sa kanya. nangalunya na ang dahon.
to all Christians.. RC or BA, if Jesus is in your heart i think you cannot say awful things to each other. Pray to one another if you really concern or hate to one another.Just like what Jesus taught us. Respect each other's religion and belief.I believe in God's time, everyone will know the Truth.i know that most of us not yet encounter Jesus in their life that's why they are fighting for what they know.
"There is a way that seems RIGHT to a man, but in the end it leads to DEATH -proverbs14:12"
Agree ako sayo, cguro kaya sya natalo kc mas gusto ni God na mag focus nlng sya sa salita ni God at hindi na mag focus sa pagkapanalo at pag kakaroon ng maraming pera, because we all know that GREEDINESS is the root of all EVIL.
Korena please use your professionalism as a journalist and don't exploit them, We know their weaknesses....Please !
INC ka brod diba?
Chris Banez,you cannot blame our Catholic faith,bec. not to be proud,but a lot of Christians turn down our faith,but we always kept our silence!Humility is what the bible teaches,and Jesus teaches!Kahit anong sabihin ng iba,Jesus told Peter,You are the Rock!And I will build MY CHURCH,hindi niya sinabing MY CHURCHES,He specifically said MY CHURCH,HE will give the Keys of Heaven to Peter.Kaya nga ang successor ni Peter ay ang Pope di ba? Kahit anong paninira ang gawin sa Catholic Church,we will always stay forever strong!
Ang ina ang nakakaalam para sa kanyang anak... Yes diba? kaya wala tayong karapatan para salungatin ang ating magulang. Sumunod ka sa iyong magulang, yan ay batas sa ating pagkatao.
mommy d. idol teka
sa buhay nang isang sports,my na nalo or my na talo,ganyan ang buhay,hindi palagi panalo,
wag dapat e damay ang diyos ke catolico ka or christiano ka iisa lang ang diyos natin.
#Levitico 19:4🌸
4 Huwag ninyong babalikan ang mga diosdiosan, ni huwag kayong gagawa para sa inyo ng mga dios na binubuo ako ang Panginoon ninyong Dios.
#Exodo 20:4 🌸
Huwag kang gagawa para sa iyo ng larawang inanyuan o ng kawangis man ng anomang anyong nasa itaas sa langit, o ng nasa ibaba sa lupa, o ng nasa tubig sa ilalim ng lupa:
20:5 -Huwag mong yuyukuran sila, o paglingkuran man sila; sapagka't akong Panginoon mong Dios, ay Dios na mapanibughuin, na aking dinadalaw ang katampalasanan ng mga magulang sa mga anak, hanggang sa ikatlo at ikaapat na salin ng lahi ng mga napopoot sa akin;
@mjean, it is good na alam mo ang meaning ng BIBLE. But sana alam mo din ang contents nito. And I hope you start reading and understanding what is written in your BIBLE.
Dahil sa pagsuway sa nanay ,kaya ayon !
Why don't you pray in your church? Before you say anything negative about praying in public or at church make sure to straighten all you facts.
I was a Catholic for 16 years, my mom and dad, were Catholics for 27 and 30 years respectively. And we never heard the priest shared to us that we should read our bible, we were never informed that worshiping idols and saints and other carved beings are detestable to God and it is written in the bible. When we found out the truth we just stepped up and and went to a higher level of our faith. Dont you ever wonder? I believe your priests read the bible?
Sabagay..hnd nmn lalaki Ng ganyan c Manny n humble..Kung d cxa naturuan Ng maayos Ng nanay nyan.kht s paningin Ng iba n loke like minsan c mommy d. Andun p din Ang pagging mothers knows best.
tumbs up momy d
I'm so sad for you mommy D & you made The Lord's heart bleeds. Hope God will transform your heart soon...always remember that Religion can't save you only JESUS!!! (John 14:6)
so, why do we need to transfer to other religion if religion can't save us? tama ka irene baltazar.
I think this is a test for Manny whether he will stand by his new faith in God or go back o being a Catholic because of the loss and rumours so don't go saying that "Catholicism is the best that's why Manny lost because he changed his faith" or something like that!! GOD BLESS
She is overreacting selfish. She should have understood that Manny and Jinky have their brains and maturity to decide on their own. She is saying that her control over her son's faith is the secret to winning boxing matches. She really doesn't know this is absurdity. She also doesn't know she is selfish. A mother doesn't control her son even after her son has already a mind of his own. After all, it's the same christian faith, why doesn't she let go. She is not the factor for winning.
Matagal nang kinimkim ni Dionisia yan, ngayon na lang pumutok. Magtanong-tanong kayo doon, last year, pa yan, nakikitulog, nakikitira, nakikikain lahat sa compound ni Manny. This last fight, humingi pa ng 30+ tickets with accommodations pa yan huh, kasi gusto na pati mga pamilya nila makapunta at may hotels na matuluyan at syempre naman binigyan ni manny.
DAPAT LANG.....KUNG HINDI FEEL NI ALING DIONISIA DAPAT HINDI NIYA GAWIN, TAMA LANG ANG GINAWA NIYA NA UMUPO LANG AT WALANG REACTION,