Baji Quan means Eight Extreme Fist ( direct translation from Chinese words ). It is oso known as the "Bodyguards' Combat Skill". It was used by body guards during the Qing Dynasty to protect the Emperor and later Chiang Kai Shek of Taiwan and Mao Ze Dong of China. Thatz how it got labelled as a "body guards' combat skill."
Kevin gotta be one of the ONLY martial artists on YT that does BJJ at a high level, and still has respect for all martial arts, realizes that a punch is a "punch" or elbow is an elbow and doesn't belong to ANY style... just the way its delivered and those concepts are packaged gives it meaning to a specific art. Just respect what you can take from ALL arts, discard what isn't useful to you and be objective. TEST yourself against others, go into other gyms with an empty cup and see if what you know makes sense and can be applied. EVERY art has strengths and weaknesses... end of story. Hats off to you Kevin!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It’s so refreshing, some of this and hunger and judo are what my grandfather taught me he said word for word, “these techniques belong to all styles, it’s you. If you’re not afraid to break the guys fingers, you’re probably going to win. A fights about whose left standing and standing not” - Grandpa L 😂😂 Shits chilling the as I get older considering he grew up in chines when Japan invaded:,)
Thanks for featuring and promoting the art of Bajiquan! Much respect to you being so open minded to feature all kinds of modern and traditional fighting arts from all cultures. Episodes like this is important to justify for traditional Chinese martial arts especially TCMA’s for a bad perception from the fake taichi masters got slaughtered by mma guys.
@@wutan_nj I entirely agree with you and I'm glad to see you getting the spotlight. that said the actual wording and sentence structure of that comment is making the editor part of my brain somewhat sad. then again you are a martial arts teacher and not an English teacher.
Kevin it would be awesome if you are able to manage to get all the sifus from Xingyiquan, Baguazhang, Bajiquan and Tai Chi together. Not to show which style is better, but put them in one room and let them exchange about technique, principles, philosophies, demonstrations one style against the other, similarities etc.
I began under Sifu Vincent when he began teaching online in his program called BajiShu. He’s very good and highly knowledgeable in many TCMAs and I learn so much every time I ask him questions. Thanks for meeting my Sifu, Kevin. Please spread the knowledge of Bajiquan
youtubers are all clickbaiters! the ones that put stuff out there... the controversial stuff anyway.... otherwise youd see youtubers challenging other youtubers.... the real masters are lowkey unassuming not looking to reveal anything! but trying to teach you something not by putting others down
There’s even a style that combines Bajiquan and Mantis called Pachi Tanglang Ch’uan. Not sure if it’s Southern Mantis, though. Great book on it by the late master Su-Yu Chang.
dude most unassuming sifus i know have body builder legs and thighs! My uncle was a slight unassuming taichi practitioner with thick black glasses.... power was explosive like the BajiQuan guy! they used to practice forms under tall tables! thats where they generate power from..... so imagine them doing that horse stance to horse stance thing for hours or 1 on 1 under tall tables!!
Read the manga Kenji this last summer. The main character uses Bajiquan. It introduced Japanese audiences to many styles of kung fu and is the reason why styles like Bajiquan, Piguazhang, Baguazhang, and Xinyi Liuhe Quan are common in fighting games. Happy to see this style on this channel.
Yes indeed! It’s also one of the coolest and most practical forms of kung fu as it’s been battle tested in mma matches with differing rulesets all over the world. And its defense is really good and its close range attacking is great and its throws are explosive and tricky! Really cool style to me
it might interest you to know that the teacher in this video is part of the Liü Yun-Qiao Baji-Quan lineage. he's also possibly the biggest fan of kenji on the planet.
yes. a big yes. I met a guy in HongKong who trained in Pak Mei or white eyebrows in Britain. he demonstrated his power of Pakistan Mei for me. it was explosive.
@@gotowealth i did white brow for a hot minute in the UK.... it wasnt a bald fella was it that was Sifu? Alopecia?.... they also did the Chinatown lion dance as well
I was lucky to meet Sifu Vincent and do a trial class at his school in NYC. He's a really good teacher and with just an hour I already received good feedback on my fundamentals that I still work on today. He also has a really nice group of students with tight sense of community - they invited us to all have lunch together after class, which they said was a usual routine for them. Highly recommend to anyone that is around NYC to visit his school.
Really outstanding video. A real master explaining the biomechanics of Baji quan. These are little secrets that make the difference in a combat. Thanks for sharing this video and a tap to hat for this Baji master I learned more on Baji today than in all my research on Baji quan, this final twist in the real secret to effective Fa Jin in real combat and to destroy foe's structure. Keep going!
No way i used to train Kung fu when i was younger and in spars i used to do these moves where i suddenly step inside really close and ram my opponent with my shoulder or elbow using my body weight when their mid-step or any unstable movement or position to suddenly throw off their balance. I didn't know i was doing a bit of baji quan before i knew about it.
“That’s cool.” Best description ever. Glad to see Kevin appreciate and see the use in all martial arts. It’s a mentality we should all have. You go Kevin!
I’m sure lotta people have learned a lot from your channel Kevin! The way you break down the lessons and teachings of martial arts you research into terms of “energy” or body mechanics is fascinating. It makes it easier to understand how to evolve your martial arts journey. This has lead to me trying some cool tricks in sparring with different partners, applying these cool lessons like no wasting movement, the manipulation of energy/flow of force, how to generate substantial power in smaller movements, etc. you’re also very entertaining uso.
Anyone played Tekken and played Paul Pheonix, alot of his moves remind me of BajiQuan, the leg trip into elbow ramming move etc..... This is the explosiveness of BajiQuan BUT BajiQuan is virtually unknown to the West! Bruce Lee oversold Wing Chun lol in a good way, what im trying to say is there are a bajillion KungFu styles! Look at SIFU the videogame! Anyone out here heard of Pak Mei or White Brow style!? Again virtually unheard of to the casual Westerner!.... During the 80s or 90s it was Hung Gar, then all of a sudden WingChun and Ipman took over with a bajilion ipman movies.... I rate the Prodigal Son as the first proper WingChun movie Sammo actually taught the audience between soft and hard WingChun
Hi Kevin, You are doing good! Honestly, I watched some of your earlier videos with other influencers, or content creators and I felt that they are not good, and you are just ridiculous. Sorry if that makes you sad. But with the Bagua video earlier and Baji one today, both are very likeable. The teachers are very well trained, "real deal". And the way they deliver knowledge is pretty straightforward, no overuse of "Qi" word. They talk much about legs drill, root, balance, empy chest, practice extremely slow for better root, consider human body as conductor to deflect/redirect force and counter attack, connection between left and right, above and below,... Those are all practical aspects to focus in training for success, not other bullshit stuffs which are the result from being heavily obsessed with fiction. I'm glad for you as well. It's not about school rival. With an open mind like this, you will see the reality of traditional fighting which has been sold cheap by fiction and film industry from both US and China/Hongkong. P/S: Regard from a Neija practitioner (but mostly Xingyi). Edited: typos.
The BajiQuan elbow is more devastating than the Thai elbow! The Baji elbow is hidden and isnt revealed till its too late and is applied to the core of the body instead of the head which can move out of the way! You as an opponent tend to walk INTO the Baji elbow and we're talking serious injury broken bones if you walk into a lethal elbow to the chest and youre obviously off balance while the practitioner is centering his bodymass pushing you out of the way
Very interesting, i think i find a lost application for a form of a part of a kata in my style. At the End, we call it lotusbutt (bad translated) they told us its something like a block, but not a very realistik. That application is much closer. Hmm, bad english, sorry😅
We talking sucks as a character or martial art detail? For character, you're definitely right, Akira didn't get much backstory or development outside of being the cool cover character. For detail, it was the 90s so he didn't have much competition in the way of realistic accuracy but they could have improved that in later games.
@@RenBaiHu What you mean is that the character of Virtua Fighter Game is hard to play similiar to Gen of Street fighter which is basically only for the most hardcore fans able to win with it. But once you know how to use it properly then you can have extreme fun.
I've never studied it, but I messed around with it through some friend from Taiwan, and I think very highly of Bajiquan. The Iron Mountain Lean (that's what I was told the step-in shoulder/elbow blow was called in Mandarin) is one of the most practical single techniques in kung fu. I also find that Bajiquan marries very easily with Wing Chun and with close-range forms of Western boxing.
For those wondering how he’s “grinding” into the ground, especially with the front leg, he’s PULLING with the lead leg. A simple, and dumb, way to figure it out is to just scoot yourself forward with one foot, whichever foot is in front. Keep your feet small at first and scoot forward. Land with the heel first, and roll onto the midfoot. Then start adding a twist after awhile. But as you roll to the midfoot, your leg twists to go into that turned foot position. Then go to a bigger stance. Rinse and repeat.
This form suits me fine! It’s perfect for me because I can no longer perform the kicks and movements I did in karate. I now teach cane self defense and bajiquan works well for a lot of reasons. Thank you!
Random fun fact. Taekwondo was formed from 5 to 10 different schools and some like kang duk kwan or Kwon bup bu did kung fu forms including bajiquan forms. On UA-cam you can still still the kang duk kwan school of taekwondo(they a part of the kukiwon Olympic TKD) do a form called Palgi kwon(baji Quan) and they also do jang Kwon or long fist. Most of the skills are lost as taekwondo created new forms but the various school still teach rare kung fu forms in bastardized forms.
I dont know about that particular style. However, a guy I used to spar against, was studying Kuk Sool Won, which he said was a hybrid of TKD and Chinese KungFu.
Wow Kevin, this is my favorite kung fu style next to Wing Chun. This is Michael by the way you probably don’t remember me, but I used to train at Francis Fong’s under you until the pandemic in 2020. I also saw the video you did with my sensei in Taido and was thinking about coming back sometime
Bruce Lee said that while we all have one head and two arms and two legs, there'll be only so many ways we can move. But I tell you what, the sheer RANGE of techniques in kung fu is mindblowing to me. I think that's why after spending a lot of years in Japanese styles like ninjutsu and karate, I keep coming back to wing chun and tai chi. (No shade to karate and ninjutsu btw, I really enjoyed my time with both, I just find wing chun and tai chi better suited to my body)
Certain artforms, FAVOR certain body types. If you are training in Tiger Style... for example, you would really need to develop some very massive forearms. And if you were sparring against another Tiger Stylists.. if they are stronger and have more mass than you, then you will be at a great disadvantage. Arts like Tai Chi, and properly performed Wing Chun, allow you to be able to deal with larger and stronger OPs, using softer methods... which can equalize the differences. Of course, if you were going up against a larger WC guy.. that had the same level of sensitivity skills as you... then you are also going to be at a great disadvantage. That said, its great to learn and train from many different arts. It can give you a much better understanding of what your enemy might be trying to do. And it can only help to improve your own skillsets and attributes, too. I will say, that as a WC guy myself... I also trained in Shaolin style Iron Body conditioning methods... and found the practice to be very valuable. Especially when sparring heavy / full contact against much larger and stronger OPs. If you end up eating some heavy hits... you can still keep fighting, rather than curling up into a ball, on the ground.
There are more trapping methods in Baji. In the Xiao Baji form we use xiao chansi or small silk winding, that is, a kind of wrist lock very common in Northern Wushu styles. I'm not a Bajiquan stylist, but Xiao baji is a beloved part of my daily training..
THE ELBOW IS VERY POWERFUL- reminds me of that Kuro Obi sadist blasting people with elbow...😂 And the KUNG FU THEATRE "PRISSY" character with his hands up near his face talking all QUEER, but geez that elbow U never thought it could be so POWERFUL ‼️✅👍 [ FRANKLY, CHINESE MARTIAL ARTS ARE THE BEST IMHO. ]
speaking as someone whose studied both Chinese martial arts and to some degree acupuncture, I don't know if there is a 5 point palm exploding heart technique. there's a 1 point heart stopping technique which I'm not going to explain to you but you could probably learn with a bit of research.
The different styles of Bajiquan vary greatly. In mainland China, some styles are popular among the folk who retain a more primitive, violent and savage fighting style. For example, the styles of Mengcun in Hebei and Tianjin.
Finally. To me it shows the power of simplicity and it's complexity. Always amazes me how powerful distraction is before you know what is happening you are usually on the ground or doubled over those elbows are brutal .
Stance change may be subtle, but the attack is *SUDDEN* . Anyway a fighting art which the two most basic attacks are an elbow and a shoulder tackle must be a good one. I mean, it seems to be the simplest solution for disposing some garbage
excellent intro to basics; extensive training in mabu is essential for rooting just to start; seems that speed of parry is bypassed when going right to the repetitive training of the whole body movements. But if a strike is not sufficiently parried, all the other techniques practiced ad nauseum are for nothing. For that, wingchun skills would seem to be a great parry method to then use haji strikes and uprooting.
This style looks like it would flow great with Hung Gar. Both are grounded,conditioning heavy,hard knocking type of styles. Also they are portrayed as rivals in media.
I loved this! This was the first time really seeing someone breaking down the way they use the elbow exploding forward like this. There are various combative systems that have used this and I always assumed they took it from Bajiquan. I have always been sad that trying to find someone like this to train with really is like trying to find a needle in a haystack
Kevin, dude, you're on fire with all this awesome kung fu content. Thank you so much. This has so much in common with Xing Yi. I see a lot of dragon body and chicken stepping.
Take a heavy pole ~10lbs and pretend you are wheels on a train, using circular motion from your waist and translating it into reciprocating motion like a piston. Therefore, your waist is the crankshaft.
The thumbs rotate the waist, the waist drives the legs into the ground. When you're centered, your body moves like gears as you turn your palm face up and face down.
Theres something about seeing a kung fu master breaking down ancient techniques in a bloody Yankees hat that feels so wrong 😂 I love how you ask him to demonstrate the applications rather than just the techniques, the forms make much more sense that way.
I would love to learn this. Wing chun has little bits and pieces of this but my pre-wing chun days i encountered this and it blew my mind, i still try to steal from my memory of that time and incorporate it, but i dont really train anymore. lol fun to contemplate though.
Cool Kev. ☺️🤙🏻💯At 1:46 that kind of kick is devastating. Just bringing up the leg and landing the heal on the shin hits like a gun shot. 😎💯very smart application there. And the crowding control.
At 1:38 he says hes kicking with the Toes, not the Heel. The toe stabbing kicks, give you more range... and they are excellent for deep penetration in softer tissue targets, like the abdomen. The heel/arch kicks are much easier to master, as you dont need as much conditioning to use them effectively.
@@JKDVIPER Your preaching to the Choir. I have done Wing Chun for most of my life. A disrespectful fighter said that I, and Wing Chun, were SH*T... So, the next time we sparred, I decided to give him a tiny Taste of what I always held back. The Round lasted 1 second. He took a single step towards me, starting to throw a Cross. When his foot planted, its knee was met by my short range Oblique kick. I had Only put in about 10 to 15% on that kick Max... but even that was way too much (Id developed Masterclass / Lethal short range power in all of my techs). He dropped to the ground like a sack of rocks, and was Screaming at the top of his lungs, and crying a river of tears. That went on for a solid 5 minutes, before 2 dudes helped him hop on one leg, back to his car. He later told me, that it took a month to fully recover from the resulting injury. Of course, despite his previous disrespect, I apologized. But after that, he never showed me any further disrespect... and he also started practicing that kick, for his own use. On the other side of the Coin... I also developed Iron Toes from my Iron Body conditioning. One time while sparring against a Kyokushin Karate instructor, I launched a Toe Stabbing kick to his lead legs inner thigh. It cause him to slightly buckle.. and he was temporarily unable to move... so I just stepped in with a flurry of handstrikes. Afterwards, he stopped sparring.. and was in complete shock and amazement at what took place. He asked me what that tech was, and what it was called. I told him, it was something Ive seen from Shaolin.. and I called it a Toe Stabbing Kick. He told me that he was unable to move for a while... and it felt similar to a very bad cramp/charlie horse. He was so impressed by my performance, that he wanted me to help teach his students what I knew... Likely because he and his students were regularly competing in brutal full contact competitions... and it would give them a huge advantage. Unfortunately, I was too busy with life at the time... so I politely declined.
Why don't you spare like in the judo girl video and Steven Thompson video . I see you learn every technique you try like almost on the spot but you need to pressure test it like sensei seth does
Its pretty much useless to try to learn and apply, in the same session. If you have never fully mastered a technique.. its going to be rare to pull off, and even if / when you do pull it off... its going to be Weak and Pathetic, because you have never trained hard enough to develop all of the various Attributes. For example, after only 5 seconds of the footwork drill, and Kevins legs were aching.. lacking power and endurance. In sparring / fighting, you get fatigued even faster... and so your legs would be like Jello in mere seconds.. if you were performing the methods accurately. I mainly mastered Wing Chun. When you first start training it, you have to stand in the Goat Riding Stance... where your knees are bent to the point where they are directly over the top of your toes. This deeply bent knee stance, is FAR more challenging than it looks. Within less than 60 seconds, your legs are already aching... and are on the verge of shaking from pain and severe fatigue. You often have to straighten the legs for a few moments... then try to go back into the stance. Eventually you develop much stronger tendons, and you can maintain that stance for like 1hr long sessions, without EVER having to straighten the legs. This is Critical to fighting with WC properly... because when you fight, you much remain in a deep knee cat-stance (all of your weight over the rear leg), the entire time. Even when you are stepping with footwork.. your head/body should never be raising or lowering... due to the low stance. This lowered stance, created MUCH more stability at all times... as you are more ROOTED to the ground. POOR quality WC practitioners, often straighten their legs when they step.. and they are much easier defeated, because they have no "ground power root". Also, when the body changes height as you move... it "Telegraphs" to the OP that you are moving in advance. And even more importantly.. if you start out in a lower stance, you can throw your lead leg kicks, without ANY telegraphing at all... making it almost impossible for the OP to see + defend against in-time. If you start out from a high straight leg stance... when you start to kick, your body drops down... and it signals to the OP that you are likely about to throw a kick (telegraphed). FYI - It probably takes like 3 months of daily practice, to develop an "Acceptable" stance... that can last a decent amount of time (without quick fatigue). Likely even longer to get to the point, where you could Spar and entire heavy contact match, without any fatigue at all. Ohh, and its not just about fatigue + strength... its also about "Awareness"... because a lot of practitioners accidentally go straight legged, without even realizing it. Anyway, Seths videos also prove all of this... because he rarely pulls off anything he learns... and even if he does, its sloppy.. weak.. and not very effective. This isnt the techniques failing him... but him failing the techniques. You simply cant master such things, in a single days worth of time. You might replicate the movements very similarly "Visually"... but they will not have the correct power, lighting speeds, pinpoint accuracy, proper timings, etc.
Not gonna lie seeing Sifu Mei talk about drilling horse stances instantly gave me PTSD lmao. Even in training for modern wushu taolu (which is just performative, not for combat) that shit is the one exercise everyone is absolutely traumatized by.
speaking as his student, who has actually gotten chewed out for not going low enough in horse stance, I honestly didn't find it traumatic or even especially unpleasant. bleeding internally is traumatic, horse stance is just physically strenuous.
Combine bajiquan with some b-jujitsu, sambo, muay boran, and a little FMA and you got yourself a beast of a combat system. Really, anything with clinches, strikes, and take downs.
speaking from experience the things baji tends to lack are range, mobility and of course ground techniques, so you would really want to look for something that gives you those things. this particular lineage already includes styles besides baji that solve the range and mobility problems, so that just leaves ground techniques as the main issue.
This style is one of my fav kung fu, seems most effective for a smaller stocky person to train in. Not so sure how well it might work w/ a knife given it's so close contact form....Maybe this style plus Silat, hmmm...
I trained in both, this Wutan style Baji Quan and Silek Taralak Minangkabau, so I was so surprised to see lots of similar elements between the two: ramming attacks, elbow, shoulder, etc. when trained, Taralak Silek style is even more vicious, with moves and applications designed to kill (a lot of neck/joint breaking) that followed the ramming attacks. I was wondering if these two styles have the same root at some point in history?
No need for a bunch of fast punches, The ram attack was going to be a blade running you through 😅 The reason elbow is up, hand is back and up instead of down and sunk up, because it was a shield 🛡️ in the elbowing arm. Mechanics do change when you adapt weapon art to empty hand tho
To be fair... Arts like Wing Chun, should NEVER need to use more than ONE punch (or one Kick), to end things. The problem, is that most WC practitioners, never fully master short range explosive power (Fajin). As such, their strikes are too weak... so they resort to trying to use multiple hits.
if you train both of them obsessively and work against resisting opponents to be able to actually apply them you can be pretty close to unbeatable on your feet. won't help you much if you get taken down though.
What do you guys think of Bajiquan?
Bajiquan literal translation is "space invaders"
Baji Quan means Eight Extreme Fist ( direct translation from Chinese words ).
It is oso known as the "Bodyguards' Combat Skill".
It was used by body guards during the Qing Dynasty to protect the Emperor and later Chiang Kai Shek of Taiwan and Mao Ze Dong of China.
Thatz how it got labelled as a "body guards' combat skill."
The bodyguard style of Kung Fu😊
Happy to finally to see it here!!!!
Its great ty for covering so much nejiaquan :D
I love this. Get to see real Chinese Gung Fu, even Northern Style. Great Channel.
Kevin gotta be one of the ONLY martial artists on YT that does BJJ at a high level, and still has respect for all martial arts, realizes that a punch is a "punch" or elbow is an elbow and doesn't belong to ANY style... just the way its delivered and those concepts are packaged gives it meaning to a specific art. Just respect what you can take from ALL arts, discard what isn't useful to you and be objective. TEST yourself against others, go into other gyms with an empty cup and see if what you know makes sense and can be applied.
EVERY art has strengths and weaknesses... end of story.
Hats off to you Kevin!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It’s so refreshing, some of this and hunger and judo are what my grandfather taught me he said word for word, “these techniques belong to all styles, it’s you. If you’re not afraid to break the guys fingers, you’re probably going to win. A fights about whose left standing and standing not” - Grandpa L 😂😂
Shits chilling the as I get older considering he grew up in chines when Japan invaded:,)
Thanks for featuring and promoting the art of Bajiquan! Much respect to you being so open minded to feature all kinds of modern and traditional fighting arts from all cultures. Episodes like this is important to justify for traditional Chinese martial arts especially TCMA’s for a bad perception from the fake taichi masters got slaughtered by mma guys.
@@wutan_nj I entirely agree with you and I'm glad to see you getting the spotlight. that said the actual wording and sentence structure of that comment is making the editor part of my brain somewhat sad. then again you are a martial arts teacher and not an English teacher.
Kevin does more than just bjj for ground work he's also trained catch wrestling under erik paulson and silat maphilindo
Big facts. That's also why I rate him so highly
Kevin it would be awesome if you are able to manage to get all the sifus from Xingyiquan, Baguazhang, Bajiquan and Tai Chi together. Not to show which style is better, but put them in one room and let them exchange about technique, principles, philosophies, demonstrations one style against the other, similarities etc.
Brainiac One G amer !!!!
Excelente ideia! Tang Lang, fan zi and mi zhong as well, and there's still many others that are really good.
I began under Sifu Vincent when he began teaching online in his program called BajiShu. He’s very good and highly knowledgeable in many TCMAs and I learn so much every time I ask him questions.
Thanks for meeting my Sifu, Kevin. Please spread the knowledge of Bajiquan
I was his student going back to the original zoom classes.
What's the online curriculum like? This is an interesting art, but I've never done anything online
@@aaronmgriffin it’s very nice. A weekly video with a few techniques taught, you record yourself and submit it. Pretty fun actually
Kevin found another real guy. Another 'Master' you aren't going to see getting challenged by UA-camrs saying Martial Arts aren't real.
youtubers are all clickbaiters! the ones that put stuff out there... the controversial stuff anyway.... otherwise youd see youtubers challenging other youtubers.... the real masters are lowkey unassuming not looking to reveal anything! but trying to teach you something not by putting others down
*Xuxiaodong entered chat
@TvBoxHead maybe look into the success of Bajiquan in Sanda and MMA.
I love your channel. Have been watching for a long time. I'd love to see you delve into Southern Praying Mantis
Yes!!! 🙌🏻
There’s even a style that combines Bajiquan and Mantis called Pachi Tanglang Ch’uan. Not sure if it’s Southern Mantis, though. Great book on it by the late master Su-Yu Chang.
Oooh that's a great suggestion! 👍🏽
I actually have one coming out soon!!!!
@@KevinLeeVlog U R DA MAN!
Finally a video on bajiquan!
Ive always thought thought bajiquan would have good application in MMA especially combining it with clinch work
I love videos about traditional styles like this😍
Also this guy got a pair a bulky legs for his size, you can see he praticses a lot
Never skip leg day :D
dude most unassuming sifus i know have body builder legs and thighs! My uncle was a slight unassuming taichi practitioner with thick black glasses.... power was explosive like the BajiQuan guy! they used to practice forms under tall tables! thats where they generate power from..... so imagine them doing that horse stance to horse stance thing for hours or 1 on 1 under tall tables!!
Beautiful body structure and footwork!
Read the manga Kenji this last summer. The main character uses Bajiquan. It introduced Japanese audiences to many styles of kung fu and is the reason why styles like Bajiquan, Piguazhang, Baguazhang, and Xinyi Liuhe Quan are common in fighting games. Happy to see this style on this channel.
Yes indeed! It’s also one of the coolest and most practical forms of kung fu as it’s been battle tested in mma matches with differing rulesets all over the world. And its defense is really good and its close range attacking is great and its throws are explosive and tricky! Really cool style to me
it might interest you to know that the teacher in this video is part of the Liü Yun-Qiao Baji-Quan lineage. he's also possibly the biggest fan of kenji on the planet.
The only other martial arts manga that gave me nearly the same feeling as Kenji is Batuque. Check it out!
Sii yo también lo acabo de leer
Dang I’d better reread it. I’d be really tempted to learn Baji. I’ll I’ve got in my area is Bagua and Xinyi
Explore Bak Mei next please!
Yes!! 🙌🏻
For vengeance with style!
yes. a big yes. I met a guy in HongKong who trained in Pak Mei or white eyebrows in Britain. he demonstrated his power of Pakistan Mei for me. it was explosive.
@@gotowealth i did white brow for a hot minute in the UK.... it wasnt a bald fella was it that was Sifu? Alopecia?.... they also did the Chinatown lion dance as well
Bak Mei with Lao Wei San or Benjanmin Coussi would be good.
I was lucky to meet Sifu Vincent and do a trial class at his school in NYC. He's a really good teacher and with just an hour I already received good feedback on my fundamentals that I still work on today. He also has a really nice group of students with tight sense of community - they invited us to all have lunch together after class, which they said was a usual routine for them. Highly recommend to anyone that is around NYC to visit his school.
It's Akira Yuki's fighting style. Always wanted to see this style broken down.
The best style I've seen in video games. Explosive and powerful. He's such a satisfying character to use
And Leo from Tekken!
Juu'nen hayain da yo!
Most explosive, practical, realistic, and effective Northern Style of Kung Fu😊
Good to see Sifu Vincent on another channel.
Finally! I can learn Bajiquan from a master!
Really outstanding video. A real master explaining the biomechanics of Baji quan.
These are little secrets that make the difference in a combat.
Thanks for sharing this video and a tap to hat for this Baji master I learned more on Baji today than in all my research on Baji quan, this final twist in the real secret to effective Fa Jin in real combat and to destroy foe's structure.
Keep going!
No way i used to train Kung fu when i was younger and in spars i used to do these moves where i suddenly step inside really close and ram my opponent with my shoulder or elbow using my body weight when their mid-step or any unstable movement or position to suddenly throw off their balance. I didn't know i was doing a bit of baji quan before i knew about it.
A lot of these Northern Chinese styles are probably Shaolin derivatives, so there should be some similarities and through line.
Thank you for using a wide angle lens to show all the footwork! So important, especially with a style that uses footwork angles as much as Baji.
“That’s cool.” Best description ever. Glad to see Kevin appreciate and see the use in all martial arts. It’s a mentality we should all have. You go Kevin!
Thank you!!!
I’m sure lotta people have learned a lot from your channel Kevin! The way you break down the lessons and teachings of martial arts you research into terms of “energy” or body mechanics is fascinating. It makes it easier to understand how to evolve your martial arts journey. This has lead to me trying some cool tricks in sparring with different partners, applying these cool lessons like no wasting movement, the manipulation of energy/flow of force, how to generate substantial power in smaller movements, etc. you’re also very entertaining uso.
Kevin, please show xin Yi Liu He quan, another amazing style.
Dude is awesome! He is able to root himself and seems like he is twice as heavy!
Leg day as a martial art
Anyone played Tekken and played Paul Pheonix, alot of his moves remind me of BajiQuan, the leg trip into elbow ramming move etc..... This is the explosiveness of BajiQuan BUT BajiQuan is virtually unknown to the West!
Bruce Lee oversold Wing Chun lol in a good way, what im trying to say is there are a bajillion KungFu styles! Look at SIFU the videogame! Anyone out here heard of Pak Mei or White Brow style!? Again virtually unheard of to the casual Westerner!.... During the 80s or 90s it was Hung Gar, then all of a sudden WingChun and Ipman took over with a bajilion ipman movies.... I rate the Prodigal Son as the first proper WingChun movie Sammo actually taught the audience between soft and hard WingChun
Leo from tekken
My main Leo uses Baji Quan. Paul uses different martial art
Hi Kevin,
You are doing good!
Honestly, I watched some of your earlier videos with other influencers, or content creators and I felt that they are not good, and you are just ridiculous. Sorry if that makes you sad.
But with the Bagua video earlier and Baji one today, both are very likeable.
The teachers are very well trained, "real deal". And the way they deliver knowledge is pretty straightforward, no overuse of "Qi" word. They talk much about legs drill, root, balance, empy chest, practice extremely slow for better root, consider human body as conductor to deflect/redirect force and counter attack, connection between left and right, above and below,... Those are all practical aspects to focus in training for success, not other bullshit stuffs which are the result from being heavily obsessed with fiction.
I'm glad for you as well. It's not about school rival. With an open mind like this, you will see the reality of traditional fighting which has been sold cheap by fiction and film industry from both US and China/Hongkong.
P/S: Regard from a Neija practitioner (but mostly Xingyi).
Edited: typos.
The BajiQuan elbow is more devastating than the Thai elbow! The Baji elbow is hidden and isnt revealed till its too late and is applied to the core of the body instead of the head which can move out of the way! You as an opponent tend to walk INTO the Baji elbow and we're talking serious injury broken bones if you walk into a lethal elbow to the chest and youre obviously off balance while the practitioner is centering his bodymass pushing you out of the way
Very interesting, i think i find a lost application for a form of a part of a kata in my style. At the End, we call it lotusbutt (bad translated) they told us its something like a block, but not a very realistik. That application is much closer. Hmm, bad english, sorry😅
We're becoming Akira Yuki with this one boys!
Akira wasn't based on Wutan's Baji which is more an "old man style" but on the Wu family style. But even then, that character sadly sucks lol
We talking sucks as a character or martial art detail? For character, you're definitely right, Akira didn't get much backstory or development outside of being the cool cover character. For detail, it was the 90s so he didn't have much competition in the way of realistic accuracy but they could have improved that in later games.
@@RenBaiHu What you mean is that the character of Virtua Fighter Game is hard to play similiar to Gen of Street fighter which is basically only for the most hardcore fans able to win with it. But once you know how to use it properly then you can have extreme fun.
Juunen Hayain Da Yo!
i think the blasted salami channel has a good play of akira in his videos
Baji elbow thrust techniques are some of the most powerful out there.
Really good stuff.
I like that wu shu style.
doing baji now, its always 'I take your space' just like a basic level of Xing Yi.
I love watching bajiquan mostly cos of fighting game characters
I have been watching your videos since the very beginning and love them all, sir.
been a fan of Sifu Vincent for years, glad he finally gets some exposure
Nice please i will love to see 7 Star Praying Mantis Kung Fu.
I've never studied it, but I messed around with it through some friend from Taiwan, and I think very highly of Bajiquan. The Iron Mountain Lean (that's what I was told the step-in shoulder/elbow blow was called in Mandarin) is one of the most practical single techniques in kung fu. I also find that Bajiquan marries very easily with Wing Chun and with close-range forms of Western boxing.
the GOAT
For those wondering how he’s “grinding” into the ground, especially with the front leg, he’s PULLING with the lead leg. A simple, and dumb, way to figure it out is to just scoot yourself forward with one foot, whichever foot is in front. Keep your feet small at first and scoot forward. Land with the heel first, and roll onto the midfoot. Then start adding a twist after awhile. But as you roll to the midfoot, your leg twists to go into that turned foot position. Then go to a bigger stance. Rinse and repeat.
This form suits me fine! It’s perfect for me because I can no longer perform the kicks and movements I did in karate. I now teach cane self defense and bajiquan works well for a lot of reasons. Thank you!
Random fun fact. Taekwondo was formed from 5 to 10 different schools and some like kang duk kwan or Kwon bup bu did kung fu forms including bajiquan forms.
On UA-cam you can still still the kang duk kwan school of taekwondo(they a part of the kukiwon Olympic TKD) do a form called Palgi kwon(baji Quan) and they also do jang Kwon or long fist.
Most of the skills are lost as taekwondo created new forms but the various school still teach rare kung fu forms in bastardized forms.
I dont know about that particular style. However, a guy I used to spar against, was studying Kuk Sool Won, which he said was a hybrid of TKD and Chinese KungFu.
Wow Kevin, this is my favorite kung fu style next to Wing Chun. This is Michael by the way you probably don’t remember me, but I used to train at Francis Fong’s under you until the pandemic in 2020. I also saw the video you did with my sensei in Taido and was thinking about coming back sometime
I would love to see a more focused on look on the bumps and tackles of the style and similar. They can make shoulder and hips into actual weapons.
八极拳 is my fav
Where did the takedown against a clinch go? I saw it on FB, that was cool
Stay tuned for part 2 :)
@@KevinLeeVlog Pigua video, gottcha
I would love to see more baji in MMA to help transition to grappling
Baji is not popular in hong kong Cinema, but in Taiwan and Japanese game and manga
So happy to see one of my absolute favorite martial art styles showcased!
Truly beautiful art. That low walking is major power.
Bruce Lee said that while we all have one head and two arms and two legs, there'll be only so many ways we can move. But I tell you what, the sheer RANGE of techniques in kung fu is mindblowing to me. I think that's why after spending a lot of years in Japanese styles like ninjutsu and karate, I keep coming back to wing chun and tai chi. (No shade to karate and ninjutsu btw, I really enjoyed my time with both, I just find wing chun and tai chi better suited to my body)
Certain artforms, FAVOR certain body types. If you are training in Tiger Style... for example, you would really need to develop some very massive forearms. And if you were sparring against another Tiger Stylists.. if they are stronger and have more mass than you, then you will be at a great disadvantage.
Arts like Tai Chi, and properly performed Wing Chun, allow you to be able to deal with larger and stronger OPs, using softer methods... which can equalize the differences. Of course, if you were going up against a larger WC guy.. that had the same level of sensitivity skills as you... then you are also going to be at a great disadvantage.
That said, its great to learn and train from many different arts. It can give you a much better understanding of what your enemy might be trying to do. And it can only help to improve your own skillsets and attributes, too.
I will say, that as a WC guy myself... I also trained in Shaolin style Iron Body conditioning methods... and found the practice to be very valuable. Especially when sparring heavy / full contact against much larger and stronger OPs. If you end up eating some heavy hits... you can still keep fighting, rather than curling up into a ball, on the ground.
11:15 The footwork is strictly 马步 and doesn't transition into 弓步 like in many spear techniques though.
弓步 is for fundamental training. 弓步 is the most steady posture, however, it pauses you movement in fights. 活步 training is the next level.
There are more trapping methods in Baji. In the Xiao Baji form we use xiao chansi or small silk winding, that is, a kind of wrist lock very common in Northern Wushu styles.
I'm not a Bajiquan stylist, but Xiao baji is a beloved part of my daily training..
virtua fighter...bit irl !!! 😁
THE ELBOW IS VERY POWERFUL- reminds me of that Kuro Obi sadist blasting people with elbow...😂 And the KUNG FU THEATRE "PRISSY" character with his hands up near his face talking all QUEER, but geez that elbow U never thought it could be so POWERFUL ‼️✅👍
[ FRANKLY, CHINESE MARTIAL ARTS ARE THE BEST IMHO. ]
I love this!
Please explore the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique next!
speaking as someone whose studied both Chinese martial arts and to some degree acupuncture, I don't know if there is a 5 point palm exploding heart technique. there's a 1 point heart stopping technique which I'm not going to explain to you but you could probably learn with a bit of research.
The different styles of Bajiquan vary greatly. In mainland China, some styles are popular among the folk who retain a more primitive, violent and savage fighting style. For example, the styles of Mengcun in Hebei and Tianjin.
Finally. To me it shows the power of simplicity and it's complexity. Always amazes me how powerful distraction is before you know what is happening you are usually on the ground or doubled over those elbows are brutal .
Stance change may be subtle, but the attack is *SUDDEN* . Anyway a fighting art which the two most basic attacks are an elbow and a shoulder tackle must be a good one. I mean, it seems to be the simplest solution for disposing some garbage
excellent intro to basics; extensive training in mabu is essential for rooting just to start; seems that speed of parry is bypassed when going right to the repetitive training of the whole body movements. But if a strike is not sufficiently parried, all the other techniques practiced ad nauseum are for nothing. For that, wingchun skills would seem to be a great parry method to then use haji strikes and uprooting.
This style looks like it would flow great with Hung Gar. Both are grounded,conditioning heavy,hard knocking type of styles. Also they are portrayed as rivals in media.
YES! KEVIN BAJI VIDEO! LET'S FUCKING GO!!
Sorry I've just been waiting for you to do this for a while.
I loved this! This was the first time really seeing someone breaking down the way they use the elbow exploding forward like this. There are various combative systems that have used this and I always assumed they took it from Bajiquan. I have always been sad that trying to find someone like this to train with really is like trying to find a needle in a haystack
Kevin, dude, you're on fire with all this awesome kung fu content. Thank you so much.
This has so much in common with Xing Yi. I see a lot of dragon body and chicken stepping.
I see Baji, I click.
Take a heavy pole ~10lbs and pretend you are wheels on a train, using circular motion from your waist and translating it into reciprocating motion like a piston. Therefore, your waist is the crankshaft.
The thumbs rotate the waist, the waist drives the legs into the ground. When you're centered, your body moves like gears as you turn your palm face up and face down.
Theres something about seeing a kung fu master breaking down ancient techniques in a bloody Yankees hat that feels so wrong 😂 I love how you ask him to demonstrate the applications rather than just the techniques, the forms make much more sense that way.
I would love to learn this. Wing chun has little bits and pieces of this but my pre-wing chun days i encountered this and it blew my mind, i still try to steal from my memory of that time and incorporate it, but i dont really train anymore. lol fun to contemplate though.
When I did spent a whole day avoiding the use of baji with the help of guys at there in Roma seminar of Wing Chun's where we met at❤😂😊
Kevin, please stop overusing the phrase "correct". You aren't using it correctly bro.
This is some legit and practical skill. I trained wado karate, and I’m in awe of these in tight body movement and unrooting attacks.
I really like the exercise at the end for training horse stance. Going to add that to my training. Thanks!
Kenji
This style is pretty awesome never knew it existed would definitely like to try it sometime
Cool Kev. ☺️🤙🏻💯At 1:46 that kind of kick is devastating. Just bringing up the leg and landing the heal on the shin hits like a gun shot. 😎💯very smart application there. And the crowding control.
At 1:38 he says hes kicking with the Toes, not the Heel. The toe stabbing kicks, give you more range... and they are excellent for deep penetration in softer tissue targets, like the abdomen. The heel/arch kicks are much easier to master, as you dont need as much conditioning to use them effectively.
@@johndough8115 yup. I hear that. Try that flat heal raise it and smack. Lands like an anvil. 😎🧠
@@JKDVIPER Your preaching to the Choir. I have done Wing Chun for most of my life.
A disrespectful fighter said that I, and Wing Chun, were SH*T...
So, the next time we sparred, I decided to give him a tiny Taste of what I always held back. The Round lasted 1 second. He took a single step towards me, starting to throw a Cross. When his foot planted, its knee was met by my short range Oblique kick.
I had Only put in about 10 to 15% on that kick Max... but even that was way too much (Id developed Masterclass / Lethal short range power in all of my techs).
He dropped to the ground like a sack of rocks, and was Screaming at the top of his lungs, and crying a river of tears. That went on for a solid 5 minutes, before 2 dudes helped him hop on one leg, back to his car.
He later told me, that it took a month to fully recover from the resulting injury.
Of course, despite his previous disrespect, I apologized. But after that, he never showed me any further disrespect... and he also started practicing that kick, for his own use.
On the other side of the Coin... I also developed Iron Toes from my Iron Body conditioning. One time while sparring against a Kyokushin Karate instructor, I launched a Toe Stabbing kick to his lead legs inner thigh. It cause him to slightly buckle.. and he was temporarily unable to move... so I just stepped in with a flurry of handstrikes.
Afterwards, he stopped sparring.. and was in complete shock and amazement at what took place. He asked me what that tech was, and what it was called. I told him, it was something Ive seen from Shaolin.. and I called it a Toe Stabbing Kick.
He told me that he was unable to move for a while... and it felt similar to a very bad cramp/charlie horse.
He was so impressed by my performance, that he wanted me to help teach his students what I knew... Likely because he and his students were regularly competing in brutal full contact competitions... and it would give them a huge advantage.
Unfortunately, I was too busy with life at the time... so I politely declined.
I’ve actually been thinking of learning it, you got great timing
The midthai keyboard warriors are gonna have a hard time watching this
might be interesting to do the elbow drill with a resistance band
Why don't you spare like in the judo girl video and Steven Thompson video . I see you learn every technique you try like almost on the spot but you need to pressure test it like sensei seth does
Its pretty much useless to try to learn and apply, in the same session. If you have never fully mastered a technique.. its going to be rare to pull off, and even if / when you do pull it off... its going to be Weak and Pathetic, because you have never trained hard enough to develop all of the various Attributes.
For example, after only 5 seconds of the footwork drill, and Kevins legs were aching.. lacking power and endurance. In sparring / fighting, you get fatigued even faster... and so your legs would be like Jello in mere seconds.. if you were performing the methods accurately.
I mainly mastered Wing Chun. When you first start training it, you have to stand in the Goat Riding Stance... where your knees are bent to the point where they are directly over the top of your toes. This deeply bent knee stance, is FAR more challenging than it looks. Within less than 60 seconds, your legs are already aching... and are on the verge of shaking from pain and severe fatigue. You often have to straighten the legs for a few moments... then try to go back into the stance. Eventually you develop much stronger tendons, and you can maintain that stance for like 1hr long sessions, without EVER having to straighten the legs. This is Critical to fighting with WC properly... because when you fight, you much remain in a deep knee cat-stance (all of your weight over the rear leg), the entire time. Even when you are stepping with footwork.. your head/body should never be raising or lowering... due to the low stance. This lowered stance, created MUCH more stability at all times... as you are more ROOTED to the ground. POOR quality WC practitioners, often straighten their legs when they step.. and they are much easier defeated, because they have no "ground power root". Also, when the body changes height as you move... it "Telegraphs" to the OP that you are moving in advance. And even more importantly.. if you start out in a lower stance, you can throw your lead leg kicks, without ANY telegraphing at all... making it almost impossible for the OP to see + defend against in-time. If you start out from a high straight leg stance... when you start to kick, your body drops down... and it signals to the OP that you are likely about to throw a kick (telegraphed).
FYI - It probably takes like 3 months of daily practice, to develop an "Acceptable" stance... that can last a decent amount of time (without quick fatigue). Likely even longer to get to the point, where you could Spar and entire heavy contact match, without any fatigue at all. Ohh, and its not just about fatigue + strength... its also about "Awareness"... because a lot of practitioners accidentally go straight legged, without even realizing it.
Anyway, Seths videos also prove all of this... because he rarely pulls off anything he learns... and even if he does, its sloppy.. weak.. and not very effective. This isnt the techniques failing him... but him failing the techniques. You simply cant master such things, in a single days worth of time. You might replicate the movements very similarly "Visually"... but they will not have the correct power, lighting speeds, pinpoint accuracy, proper timings, etc.
@@johndough8115 oss
Where can I learn baji fist in Brazil?
China
@@feralkid9315 Taiwan
Sifu Vincent featured in the video has an online school called bajishu. Check it out.
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@@DecoRLZ1st I remember that Master 蘇昱彰 is in Brazil. Not sure if he still alive or not.
Cool guy! I'll have to look more into his stuff
Baji is kool, it reminds me of Aikijujutsu.
Not gonna lie seeing Sifu Mei talk about drilling horse stances instantly gave me PTSD lmao. Even in training for modern wushu taolu (which is just performative, not for combat) that shit is the one exercise everyone is absolutely traumatized by.
speaking as his student, who has actually gotten chewed out for not going low enough in horse stance, I honestly didn't find it traumatic or even especially unpleasant. bleeding internally is traumatic, horse stance is just physically strenuous.
I like that movement. So smooth. So strong.
Combine bajiquan with some b-jujitsu, sambo, muay boran, and a little FMA and you got yourself a beast of a combat system. Really, anything with clinches, strikes, and take downs.
speaking from experience the things baji tends to lack are range, mobility and of course ground techniques, so you would really want to look for something that gives you those things. this particular lineage already includes styles besides baji that solve the range and mobility problems, so that just leaves ground techniques as the main issue.
Great instructions and great detail
Wow. Learned a lot in this video.
Yes finally Baji! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
This style is one of my fav kung fu, seems most effective for a smaller stocky person to train in. Not so sure how well it might work w/ a knife given it's so close contact form....Maybe this style plus Silat, hmmm...
I trained in both, this Wutan style Baji Quan and Silek Taralak Minangkabau, so I was so surprised to see lots of similar elements between the two: ramming attacks, elbow, shoulder, etc. when trained, Taralak Silek style is even more vicious, with moves and applications designed to kill (a lot of neck/joint breaking) that followed the ramming attacks. I was wondering if these two styles have the same root at some point in history?
No need for a bunch of fast punches, The ram attack was going to be a blade running you through 😅 The reason elbow is up, hand is back and up instead of down and sunk up, because it was a shield 🛡️ in the elbowing arm. Mechanics do change when you adapt weapon art to empty hand tho
To be fair... Arts like Wing Chun, should NEVER need to use more than ONE punch (or one Kick), to end things. The problem, is that most WC practitioners, never fully master short range explosive power (Fajin). As such, their strikes are too weak... so they resort to trying to use multiple hits.
awesome video .... legit
great work 🔥🔥🔥 love it
Thanks for sharing!
Legend has it when you combine Bajiquan with Piguaquan, you will become unbeatable.
if you train both of them obsessively and work against resisting opponents to be able to actually apply them you can be pretty close to unbeatable on your feet. won't help you much if you get taken down though.
Kevin finally 八极拳
好好学习 kevin
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO
Dude, this is one of the best channels ever! Thank you so much Kevin for bringing this content to us.
Wow, thank you!!
Excellent stuff
The elbow is probs only more stretched out when doing drills.probs for health
Incorrect baji is not supposed to stretch elbow out at all. It's showy but incorrect.