If you let go of the tool with your off hand the whole thing spins. You may have to spin it a couple times to get it started coming out, but once that pressure is off let go.
You are supposed to manually back it out after setting the rivnut. As you said the post doesn’t spin. That is by design so as not to mess up the threads.
Yes I agree but it does not always backout very well manually depending on material and how tight its installed so over time it gets much better with practice.
I bought the same kit. It's much easier with an impact driver. If you thread it to justb the right depth it in screws itself but that takes guess work and practice.
I’ve seen the same mistake by not using the torque setting on the drill, hence why the rivnut binds up and is actually starting to ‘pull’ the thread. I also never thread the rivnut on all the way (only flush with the end of the mandrel) which helps when unwinding while still gripping the adaptor. I bought the same adaptor but unbranded and I've done hundreds so far without fault.
@@SaintTrinianz So long as the rivnut isn't wound all the way on the mandrel thread you shouldn't have any problems ua-cam.com/video/RE26_C7GPFo/v-deo.html
Finally pulled the trigger on that thread cert one. Very nice I’m jealous and in envy. Plus you have all that great food too. What a life. Many people don’t even know these nut carts exist. Thanks Steve
Thanks John , The tool got much easier since as I use it more. It's a good addition to the shop and well worth the value if you have a use for it. Cheers bud
I've stripped out a half dozen nutserts so that they just spin and you can't do anything but drill the forkers out. I don't love them anymore. Show me a way to troubleshoot that and I may go back to using them...
I have not experienced that before so the only thing that could cause that is when your using the tool to grip the material your not compressing the nutsert enough.
Nice shirt! I like easy! Great video. I have used the manual nutsert tool before. I have lost strength in my hands over the years so anything to make it easier to do the job.
Your videos are so riveting. My boy has been using those rivet nuts putting his Miata back together with wire management behind the dash, but I didn't see if he was using any kind of special tool or not. Looks like a great tool, until the big letdown happened. If and when I do try the rivet nuts, I will not get a special tool, I will just use the proper size bolt, washer, and nut, then use a drill to run the bolt in and back out. Thanks for the review
Yes your way does just fine. I did find it much easier after more use but I like to review tools first use and not stage how great they work but show any challenges as a new user . Cheers bud.
Thank you for a most entertaining demonstration. I think that the threads bite in and stick at the end of the pull. Just a guess. You sound like a nice bloke.
It's Helga's birthday. (ha ha) I saw your response to Mike. Too bad it doesn't reverse otherwise it seems to be a very capable tool. I love using these nuts on special projects. They really make you look like a professional.
Wyatt Helga most likely is fine dining right now :) I have used it more and its much more user friendly than my first try but the reverse still does not operates as good as I would have liked.
Good point, about not even needing the tool, in a tight space many tools require too much room. My cheap hand tool has been pulling the threads out of the rivet. Presumably the aluminum rivet isn't designed correctly.
Yes you can get good rivnuts or not so good and that does make a difference. 100 for $5 might be a deal but not work so great . Its finding good quality ones that work well with the unit. Cheers bud hope all is well in BC.
I will keep the bolt cutter style tool. Thank you for this, i was thinking about one of these but it seems as if there is such a thing as trying to make things too convenient.
Excellent vid. Was checking out better quality nut riveters and saw this. I have a hand pop riveter, and yes I agree it’s cumbersome and mine is already starting to act up and it’s not a cheap one. This is perfect, the nut riveter as well as the pop rivet version for the drill. If the prices are right it will be worth it for me. I’ll check around. Maybe a minuscule touch of grease or oil on the mandrel threads beforehand might help it to release after it’s done compressing. 👍🏻Again, excellent vid.
The nut and bolt at 1:50. If you get rid of the nut and swap to a shorter bolt and add washers and a slightly oversized coupling nut. it'll work with the power drill using just a nut driver bit.
They should have incorporated a one way clutch in there where it slips when the tool is in forward compressing the nut insert and then when you put it in reverse it would grab, in effect unscrewing the stem from the insert. Given a little time I could modify that tool to work the way it should.
There’s no reversing the mandrel out with the drill, you have to relieve the tension by reversing the drill just a little then spin the whole red body of the tool to reverse the mandrel out of the nutsert or rivet nut.
Even the rivet nuts tool that you use both hands it has a nob in the middle that you untreated the tool.have you used the stainless steel rivet nuts yet??
Mike after using it more it has become easier to operate . A speciality tool not many would use but nice to have if you could get use out of it. Cheers
@@SteveRobReviewsI'm working on my own nut rivet puller. Two requirements. Can't be the rotating screw pull method. That wears the threads and sometimes makes an uneven ridge sandwich hold on the metal. And it has to be powered and fast. You helped me a lot with seeing the issue of having to un thread the holding screw. I'm just at that point in my design and have just figured out how to deal with it.
Was that Canadian clockwise, or Texas clockwise? She is stuck in there! Yea, I still don't think I would utilize those. Good video Steve. You changed shirts! lol
Yes that does work on some but on many attempts the rivnuts still will not freewheel out . I could have shown only the times it works perfectly but I don't stage my videos to alway show how great a tool functions. I present a tool review as a new user and show what a new user will experience. Cheers 👍
Tried it off and on but depending on the position and the rivnut used it does not seem to matter . Wish it was so easy as some show in their videos but my video is definitely not staged to look so easy. It does work well but definitely does not always back out everytime easily. Cheers
@@SteveRobReviews at least it speeds up half the operation by a lot. I've used very little in the way of rivets but I can definitely see how it's a problem solver.
we use a ir operated one works awesome also in and out weird you electric one wont thread out bad design flaw i would say bet its just that brand most thread out thumbs up and shared
Tried it and sometimes it works and sometimes not , using it vertically is the same challenge at times depending if your using aluminum or steel riv nuts and what sizes . Overall it does a good hob. Cheers 👍
@@SteveRobReviews I found you by accident but your comments were so honest and true I've seen a couple of your other videos and I will watch them all and subscribe. I just like the honesty after all its saving me money as well
So that's how those rivets work. It was fun to see. I thought threading out part sucks ! Well I don't think we need to buy that....we can save that money and get something else....like today I'm gonna get a new tool set so I can start the Starry Night project. I didn't knew I need it but I finally found a great tutorial and it made so much sense. So excited. Art starts tomorrow. Hopefully I' don't *uck it all up. So nervous because I've never done anything like this. Okokokokay I'm gonna stop now my mind is totally taken over by Starry Night 😂 Thanks Steve. Bye 👋
Yes I have done that and it does work most times but vertical installation or using larger rivets dont always spin back out as easily as seen in other videos . Cheers
Hi Denis It takes a bit to get used to, but overall the manual unit I've used for years is much easier to use. This is good if you have a lot to do but most diyers would do well with the manual unit. Cheers 👍
@@AstroTools the Harbor Freight one used at least stinks. I know they're good at process improvements. Here in Germany, I spotted a couple of their rejected designs. Maybe they sell off old designs? Or China being China, they stole it. (Edit: tangent away from the video was the comment here about rejected designs in a German store. Tools from HF in general.)
@@SteveRobReviews , You're supposed to take your hand off the tool when you reverse it. It even says it in the instructions. Read your instructions properly.
This is the video on the Astro Pneumatic ADR14 XL Rivet Adapter Kit - ua-cam.com/video/CEokqI2vlCA/v-deo.html
You're supposed to take your hand off the tool when you reverse it. It even says it in the instructions. Read your instructions properly.
If you let go of the tool with your off hand the whole thing spins. You may have to spin it a couple times to get it started coming out, but once that pressure is off let go.
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You are supposed to manually back it out after setting the rivnut. As you said the post doesn’t spin. That is by design so as not to mess up the threads.
Yes I agree but it does not always backout very well manually depending on material and how tight its installed so over time it gets much better with practice.
It says that you're supposed to remove your grip from the tool when reversing. Let go and see if it reverses.
It works sometimes and sometimes not so good .
I bought the same kit. It's much easier with an impact driver. If you thread it to justb the right depth it in screws itself but that takes guess work and practice.
Yes it does take some practice to get it to work smoothly. Cheers 👍
I’ve seen the same mistake by not using the torque setting on the drill, hence why the rivnut binds up and is actually starting to ‘pull’ the thread. I also never thread the rivnut on all the way (only flush with the end of the mandrel) which helps when unwinding while still gripping the adaptor. I bought the same adaptor but unbranded and I've done hundreds so far without fault.
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Where's your video? It would be much appreciated...
@@SaintTrinianz So long as the rivnut isn't wound all the way on the mandrel thread you shouldn't have any problems ua-cam.com/video/RE26_C7GPFo/v-deo.html
Finally pulled the trigger on that thread cert one. Very nice I’m jealous and in envy. Plus you have all that great food too. What a life. Many people don’t even know these nut carts exist. Thanks Steve
Thanks John , The tool got much easier since as I use it more. It's a good addition to the shop and well worth the value if you have a use for it. Cheers bud
Just let go of the red part when you reverse.✌️
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Looks like a pretty good tool. We used quite a bit of river nuts in electrical for fiberglass enclosures. Keep up the good work Steve!
Thanks Terry, I do seem to find lots of spots to use a nutsert . Cheers
I've stripped out a half dozen nutserts so that they just spin and you can't do anything but drill the forkers out. I don't love them anymore. Show me a way to troubleshoot that and I may go back to using them...
I have not experienced that before so the only thing that could cause that is when your using the tool to grip the material your not compressing the nutsert enough.
Nice shirt! I like easy! Great video. I have used the manual nutsert tool before. I have lost strength in my hands over the years so anything to make it easier to do the job.
Thanks Mike , I most likely have the best wardrobe on UA-cam:) Dont forget its Helgas birthday today 🎂
@@SteveRobReviews WHO???????
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic 🤣🤣🤣
Thx for show everything worts n all!!! Saved us all a lot of time!!
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Your videos are so riveting. My boy has been using those rivet nuts putting his Miata back together with wire management behind the dash, but I didn't see if he was using any kind of special tool or not.
Looks like a great tool, until the big letdown happened. If and when I do try the rivet nuts, I will not get a special tool, I will just use the proper size bolt, washer, and nut, then use a drill to run the bolt in and back out.
Thanks for the review
Yes your way does just fine. I did find it much easier after more use but I like to review tools first use and not stage how great they work but show any challenges as a new user . Cheers bud.
Thank you for a most entertaining demonstration. I think that the threads bite in and stick at the end of the pull. Just a guess. You sound like a nice bloke.
Thanks Tony . Yes at times it does stick. Cheers 👍
It's Helga's birthday. (ha ha) I saw your response to Mike. Too bad it doesn't reverse otherwise it seems to be a very capable tool. I love using these nuts on special projects. They really make you look like a professional.
Wyatt Helga most likely is fine dining right now :) I have used it more and its much more user friendly than my first try but the reverse still does not operates as good as I would have liked.
Good point, about not even needing the tool, in a tight space many tools require too much room. My cheap hand tool has been pulling the threads out of the rivet. Presumably the aluminum rivet isn't designed correctly.
Yes you can get good rivnuts or not so good and that does make a difference. 100 for $5 might be a deal but not work so great . Its finding good quality ones that work well with the unit. Cheers bud hope all is well in BC.
I will keep the bolt cutter style tool. Thank you for this, i was thinking about one of these but it seems as if there is such a thing as trying to make things too convenient.
Good honest review. Didn't back itself off but it did seem to put them in fine...
Thanks bud , sometimes it does but on steel ones its much harder.
Excellent vid. Was checking out better quality nut riveters and saw this. I have a hand pop riveter, and yes I agree it’s cumbersome and mine is already starting to act up and it’s not a cheap one. This is perfect, the nut riveter as well as the pop rivet version for the drill. If the prices are right it will be worth it for me. I’ll check around. Maybe a minuscule touch of grease or oil on the mandrel threads beforehand might help it to release after it’s done compressing. 👍🏻Again, excellent vid.
Thanks , I like it a lot . Cheers
The nut and bolt at 1:50.
If you get rid of the nut and swap to a shorter bolt and add washers and a slightly oversized coupling nut.
it'll work with the power drill using just a nut driver bit.
That way you risk stripping the thread in the rivnut. The point is you should not us rivnut threads to collapse the nut.
I have a 1958 chevy I am working on, I have arthritis, this will be good for me!! I tried the manual one & I could not do it!!!
Steve, I love your tool reviews! Thank you! I am gonna buy one of these... I hate the hand crank nutsert setters.
Thanks Fred much appreciated.
They should have incorporated a one way clutch in there where it slips when the tool is in forward compressing the nut insert and then when you put it in reverse it would grab, in effect unscrewing the stem from the insert. Given a little time I could modify that tool to work the way it should.
I agree but for the price point its alright but the reverse is a pain but not a deal breaker. Cheers bud.
can't think of to many times i've needed a riv nut, but if i ever do now we know how to install one lol
They do come in handy if you think of them at the time as most reach for a screw or nut and bolt.
There’s no reversing the mandrel out with the drill, you have to relieve the tension by reversing the drill just a little then spin the whole red body of the tool to reverse the mandrel out of the nutsert or rivet nut.
Yes good point Jason 👍
Can I use this adapter kit for plus nut Or just fir rivet??
I never tried it for plus nuts but I'm thinking the stroke may not be correct depending on the thickness of the material used.
Even the rivet nuts tool that you use both hands it has a nob in the middle that you untreated the tool.have you used the stainless steel rivet nuts yet??
I haven't tried SS rivnuts but I did try the 3/8 steel ones and it pulled it no problem.
Handy tool indeed mate 👍👍👍 It would be so nice if it span the thingy majiggy back 🥺 cheers
After using it more it has become easier to operate . A lot better than squeezing them by hand. Cheers
I've never used a rivet nut, but I can think of several places where they would have worked great.
Hollow thin wall tubing is where I use a lot or any place I can't get access to a nut.
How's she goin'? I think this is a good idea but it seems tricky to use. That would make me leave it in the box. Nice T-shirts though!!! Take care!!!
Mike after using it more it has become easier to operate . A speciality tool not many would use but nice to have if you could get use out of it. Cheers
Still better than 2 wrenches and a bolt that wears out!👍
Yes and I do see the OEM using them a lot on late model vehicles now. Cheers Dan.
Good to see this.
Thanks James
@@SteveRobReviewsI'm working on my own nut rivet puller. Two requirements. Can't be the rotating screw pull method. That wears the threads and sometimes makes an uneven ridge sandwich hold on the metal. And it has to be powered and fast. You helped me a lot with seeing the issue of having to un thread the holding screw. I'm just at that point in my design and have just figured out how to deal with it.
Hey, what is the maximum thickness that those rivets are rated for?
No sure there are so many different ones in various sizes.
Was that Canadian clockwise, or Texas clockwise? She is stuck in there! Yea, I still don't think I would utilize those. Good video Steve. You changed shirts! lol
HAHA were on metric time up here and the wardrobe change is hard to spot eh :)
To pull the rivnut hold the tool, to undo it, let the tool go then reverse it out 😉
Yes that does work on some but on many attempts the rivnuts still will not freewheel out . I could have shown only the times it works perfectly but I don't stage my videos to alway show how great a tool functions. I present a tool review as a new user and show what a new user will experience. Cheers 👍
Take your hand off the tool when backing out
Tried it off and on but depending on the position and the rivnut used it does not seem to matter . Wish it was so easy as some show in their videos but my video is definitely not staged to look so easy. It does work well but definitely does not always back out everytime easily. Cheers
That looks like a good tool but not as handy as it first looked. I use the longer handle rivet tool
Its not as user friendly at first but did get easier over time. I would say your style is much better than the one handed types.
it sure looks like a great tool and sets the rivet great but the only thing is taking it out. take care
Hopefully you never have to but a drill works fast. Cheers Wallace
@@SteveRobReviews at least it speeds up half the operation by a lot. I've used very little in the way of rivets but I can definitely see how it's a problem solver.
I don't know what to say Bud!!☺
Well I'm counting this one as a vid regardless :)
we use a ir operated one works awesome also in and out weird you electric one wont thread out bad design flaw i would say bet its just that brand most thread out thumbs up and shared
I agree with you as I used the air operated ones at GM and they power reversed out great and squished a rivnut just like I did . Cheers bud.
I have never had any luck with a plane rivet gun. it was always breaking the rivet off in the tool.
The hand tools are cumbersome and hard on the hands :) After using it more I really like it and is much more user friendly than my first try here.
The problem with the nut tool that has the long arm is that I constantly bend the mandrels.
Interesting observation Jason 👍
Maybe don't hold the red part when undoing.
Tried it and sometimes it works and sometimes not , using it vertically is the same challenge at times depending if your using aluminum or steel riv nuts and what sizes . Overall it does a good hob. Cheers 👍
Astro Pnuematic makes it for a tool truck brand,Matco.Rebranded as a Matco is the difference
Thanks Walter 👍
She’s good as long as you have enough room. Would be cool if it had a 90 degree angle. Just saying.
Yes that would be cool but for now its better than doing it by hand . Cheers bud.
I'm building a sleigh for snowmobile and need two of those, can I rent it from you? LOL
If you only need a couple to do a nut , bolt and a washer works great too.
I thought yankee Marshall had a tool review channel lol.
Good honest opinion. I agree waste of money
Thanks Paul much appreciated 👍
@@SteveRobReviews I found you by accident but your comments were so honest and true I've seen a couple of your other videos and I will watch them all and subscribe. I just like the honesty after all its saving me money as well
Thank you
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Interesting tool but I sure like that shirt better! 😂
That's is cool shirt and the guys on that channel too. 👍
Thanks for the masterclass buddy 👍
Your always welcome to endure a steve rob video , LOL
So that's how those rivets work. It was fun to see. I thought threading out part sucks ! Well I don't think we need to buy that....we can save that money and get something else....like today I'm gonna get a new tool set so I can start the Starry Night project. I didn't knew I need it but I finally found a great tutorial and it made so much sense. So excited. Art starts tomorrow. Hopefully I' don't *uck it all up. So nervous because I've never done anything like this. Okokokokay I'm gonna stop now my mind is totally taken over by Starry Night 😂 Thanks Steve. Bye 👋
I am confident you have the skill and desire to tackle anything. Look forward to it all. Cheers
Thanks Buddy :)
If you're happy, I'm happy! 👍😂
I'm happy just knowing I made you happy , not too often I get to say that .:)
Let go of the machine when backing out
Yes I have done that and it does work most times but vertical installation or using larger rivets dont always spin back out as easily as seen in other videos . Cheers
I haven't had to do much riveting work in my life.
You have no idea what your missing :)
can i come to your house and dump that container full of rivets and rivnuts and put them all back in a mess
You want to give me a heart attack or what 😂😂
STEVE ROB REVIEWS 🤣🤣🤣
Nice !
Cheers
Riv nuts are fantastic.
I never bothered buying the tool. You don't need it.
I agree a nut and bolt and washer does fine. I do use a lot so in my case would get lots of use out of it. . Cheers
Use anti-seize on the mandrel.
Ok now that sounds interesting. 👍 Thanks I will try that.
Nice work; thanks, I won’t buy one.
Hi Denis
It takes a bit to get used to, but overall the manual unit I've used for years is much easier to use. This is good if you have a lot to do but most diyers would do well with the manual unit. Cheers 👍
Great tool but definitely not designed for tight spaces
Oh my. No it isn't.
The hand operated ones are worse most times getting it to crush.
@@AstroTools great point!
@@SteveRobReviews they're miserable. I've never had a quality one. Well...borrowed a nice one once. Not sure if I was only lucky that it went well.
@@AstroTools the Harbor Freight one used at least stinks. I know they're good at process improvements. Here in Germany, I spotted a couple of their rejected designs. Maybe they sell off old designs? Or China being China, they stole it. (Edit: tangent away from the video was the comment here about rejected designs in a German store. Tools from HF in general.)
that is just junk
It's gets the job done for the price point but I have use better .
@@SteveRobReviews , You're supposed to take your hand off the tool when you reverse it. It even says it in the instructions. Read your instructions properly.
Half baked engineering...POS (engineering)
Use a pneumatic rivet gun
Like this one 👍 ua-cam.com/video/_C0Hb0-xj2M/v-deo.html
The idea on this tool is the threads are not turning as it compresses. So it don't wear out the threads.
Yes exactly 👍