Why don’t BJJ guys do roadwork like boxers?
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2020
- Q&A with the coach.
Shanghai based MMA coach and Kunlun Fight ringside commentator Ramsey Dewey addressed the age old issue of roadwork. Why don’t BJJ athletes do roadwork like boxers traditionally do? - Спорт
My cardio went through the roof when I started doing long slow runs at night when I wrestled. I'd come home after practice. Eat light dinner. Relax for a little, then jog just 20 mins. That little bit was just enough to not do any harm but over time it built my aerobic capacity. I could go harder for an entire 2 hour wrestling practice.
I think it helps a lot with recovery
Good to know. I will try that too since I gas out during sparings
I also wanna add that BJJ markets itself as a martial arts that can win using just technique and that's why it appeals to the masses. They know that most people see exercise as a drag and they want to appeal to everyone. I remember watching your video on martial artists being terrible athletes and that really spoke to me. When I used to do BJJ they would always tell me that the only reason they couldn't get over on me was because I was strong.
The ironic thing is that BJJ drills can very taxing from a conditioning standpoint if performed in a non-stop circuit.
That being said, technique definitely plays a bigger role in BJJ than many other activities in my experience. I've successfully rolled with people 20-30 lbs heavier than me without getting submitted just by using technique to keep slipping away (although I couldn't submit them either because they were too large and strong).
If a black belt couldn't beat you because you're strong then the school you went to was very questionable.
@@synergyrevolution2332 Not necessarily. What if that black belt had been training for a long time was was 70 years-old and rolling against a 30 year-old that also happened to be 50 lbs heavier?
Look up "Boyd belt" system for BJJ. Renner and Rickson Gracie stress that age and weight can compensate for experience up to a point.
@@robcubed9557 Oh yeah, I gotcha. I think what I said would make more sense if the black belt was Rener's age.
I think being strong is especially good if you also know how to grapple. My friend is like 35lbs heavier than me and hes a beginner and he is very easy to dominate in bjj at the moment. Theres also guys in my gym just a few lbs heavier or the same as me that are almost impossible to not be dominated by. I know if my friend was on a similar skill level to me he would ragdoll me around. Strength is good alone, with technique its overwhelmingly better.
"Conditioning is your best hold." - Karl Gotch
Very true, cuz without stamina the technique wont work at all
One of the truest and best quotes ever!
Evander Holyfield used to do interval running... his strength and conditioning trainer gave an interview about how old style boxing road work wasn't scientific.
But if you read Dempsey's Championship Fighting your see he actually suggested that much of your road work be interval style running:
“After you’ve become accustomed to roadwork and your feet have hardened, mix up your runs by sprinting for 100 yards, then jogging, then shadow-boxing for a few seconds, then jogging, then sprinting, etc.” Jack Dempsey
Dempsey basically suggested you build your foundation with the equivalent of jogging..but once you can do that you start doing interval type running.
Yeah that is what i been doing
Dont forget, that Dempsey did much longer fights than boxer of today. So his fights were more similar to marathon runs. Meaning: in his times roadwork made a lot more sense.
I really like the "I do more jujitsu" concept. I took the same approach with rock climbing and it made my cardio for climbing go up crazy.
I dig it.
We need a Ramsey Dewey alarm clock, just some of that calm firmness to get you going in the morning.
It could also be used to ease one into sleep.
@@Mbq-sh6bj "Hey it's Ramsey Dewey over here in Shanghai China, and welcome to another addition of it's time to get some sleep! I'll see you in 8hrs for another addition of it's time to get up!"
So, where can I get this?
Who wants to see Ramsey Dewey run with a stick in his hands?
Oooo, oooo, I do, I do! Lol
Me! Me! Me!
When i first started boxing distance running helped me be in shape to do the workouts.
It didn't so much condition me for fighting but it seemed to be able to help me be in shape for the sports specific training.
Later the best shape i ever got in cardio wise was doing hill sprints.
I noticed i could lift more weight after a small run maybe 2 or 3 miles but that just me , but it was consistent ,
@@ElGuapoRuderalez I noticed the same, not only was I able to lift more weight but I was able to push out more reps without getting fatigued. Especially doing heavy volume training on squats. I could rep out some heavy ass weight whenever I take running and conditioning seriously.
Roadwork builds your heart physically and spiritually. Tyson did his daily 5 mile roadwork at 4am and that gave him an edge knowing he’s out there putting in miles while everyone else is sleeping. Stay hard and good luck on your training
sasholsuma For endurance foundation to go the distance. Increase heart pump volume, oxygen saturation (VO2 max) and leg conditioning.
@@Kylegreigwalker makes sense. GOTAT.
Roadwork = Endurance
Skip roping = Footwork & Rhythm
Speed bag = Hand to eye coordination & Rhythm
Heavy bag = Perfecting and correcting technique
Focus mitts = Working techniques and putting combos together
There’s reasons why people do these things and all of that wouldn’t work for bjj BUT endurance is important and sprinting is good for health reasons
Focus mitts are useless, unless it’s the same simple combination they shadow box. What you see normally is pointless
I honestly think it's the just lessons within those workouts. I started running over the lockdown, hated it since birth, and I have to say the benefits outweigh the disadvantages. I corrected my form in the first week no joint problems and gained the ability to feel weightless in my movement(125kg at the time) and as a kyokushin guy that's priceless.
Skipping rope is all about the coordination imo as much as it works the muscles and core even.
Both seem to teach you control of your body, perseverance and mental strength.
I can so easily hang in there for the long haul thanks to whatever running did to me.
Running isn't the issue, it's longterm running where you stop caring about how hard your joints are striking the ground because your exhausted. You also might be a skinny guy, no offense. Bodybuilders can't do hardbody cardio because the extra weight is capable of causing injuries easier. There's cardio out there that will give the same results without chance for longterm damage (Excercise bikes come to mind)
If you really think you need to jog to stay healthy you're just biased towards jogging, really no excuse to not do other forms of cardio that do way less wear and tear on the body.
@@abraxsp5837 125kgs you tell me if I'm skinny. Get your form in order and you can clear 5km light jog in under 20 minutes too at my weight pain free. I don't even start sweating until 3km.
I could be biased now because running has become so casual because again no pain. But the mental strength I acquired from slugging out my first 5km that took me an hour and then my next one a week later that took me 30 minutes is beyond any training I've done. Even when I was training 6 days a week sometimes 2 times a day sometimes 3 times it still wasn't as hard as that first 5km.
This is like asking why don't cyclists swim if swimming is so good for cardio.
Well swimming is the best cardio exercise with no stress on your body. Even obese people can do it
Anunaya Singh it’s good general cardio but if ur training to get better at your sport, do your sport
@@anunayasingh3621 yea but if you're a cyclist swimming muscles isn't going to help you ride faster
@GYPSY KING FURY ramsey Dewey agrees with me
I prefer swimming as hate running rather spend thirty minutes on skipping and rope work
Roadwork doesn't just give you good cardio, it also gives you leg strength and endurance, and the strong will to submit your sparring partner or opponent no matter what the same way you want to finish a set goal of a mile when you do roadwork. It's all about the discipline and determination, not just overall physical fitness test
Squat, swing kettlebells, cycle and swim instead. Running is overrated.
@@paulbadman8509 Cycling, jump roping, and swimming do not even remotely compare to running as far as improving your general cardio in context of strength and conditioning training. It's so much bang for your buck it's easy to fit in a tight schedule that also includes skill work, weight lifting, and a job.
GYPSY KING FURY Pavel Tsatsulin laughs at you, you pretentious old timer.
@@paulbadman8509 No pace of swimming compares to running dude. I've completed triathlons, I know what I'm talking about. No human being can sprint for even a minute, no matter how in shape you think you are, you will always meet your match running. "Resistance cardio" lmao that totally neglects the main energy systems you're trying to kill when running. And 99% of people don't have a place to swim, so and the amount of swimming it takes to get the same effect from workout really makes it hard to program into any sport not related to swimming.
harleyzeth sprinting is irrelevant here, as triathlon is about steady long distance running. Resistance cardio is for people who care about preserving your muscle mass instead of killing. Also it transitions better to MMA and even to boxing, as sea waves for example means you have to adapt on the run (pun unintended) and regularly explode. And I’m not even talking about significantly less injury risk and WHOLE body activation. Resistance cardio = life, prosperity and happiness. Regular cardio (except for HIIT) = cartisol and bitterness.
Running 10 miles on concrete every day just sounds like hell on your joints
Nobody runs 10 miles, but some people run 8.
5 miles is enough and not everyday, 3 times per week
Don't run on concrete, wear the right shoes (moreso the more miles you like up weekly). And 70 miles a week is (amature, not seriously competitive) marathon training, not boxing training.
PS:. 10 miles a day might make sense for boxing 15 rounds. If your BJJ bouts last that long, expect to do that type roadwork.
Id rather do sprints of heavy sandy beaches
@@tomasgrigolatto8903 ultrarunners don't have joint problems ? They do, during and after the race.
Just searched for your channel to listen to something during my abdominal training and I'm first! Hi coach lov ya from Brazil
Seems I-m not the only one! Abraços de Belém-PA, coaches!
Is your comment some convoluted way of saying that these videos are so funny they aid in your ab work outs because you're laughing so much.
Ramsey is a combat sports historian. I always learn something when I watch his videos.
Great way to start my Friday. Learning what roadwork is. Thank you for the lesson coach Ramsey.
Well whatever your thoughts are on running it is closer to being sports specific for boxing than BJJ.
You're only going to be on your feet for a short time in a BJJ match...and very little will be moving in a way that is anything like running.
However a boxer moving around a ring for 10 rounds will be moving in a way that potentially is similar to running...
Totally agree that it is sports specific. Rolling around a mat is BJJ.
Research General Physical Preparedness vs Sport Specific Preparedness, Running is essential GPP...and if Roger Gracie does hill sprints and Rickson does stair sprints...you listen to this guy.
@@ashwix did you miss the Marcelo Garcia example? 🤔
@no, stupid most better more informed boxers/coaches now a days do actually do a ton of interveral type training with sprints. But many still do some distance running...for one you can't sprint hard every day.
Some days it's thought to be good to do some distance
..however most fighters ndays don't go over 5 miles and usually no more than 3 miles
@@gregquinn7817 interval training is just a meme at this point tbh. like, it's great, but its towards the end of a periodised cardio program. you lose the benefits if you dont have basic cardio
I can refute this video with just 3 words:
The Diaz Brothers
They are both primarily boxers with black belts in BJJ.
ahau oxlahun And still Ferguson lost against the explosive Gaethje
@ahau oxlahun Well he did them despite knowing the first was unnecessary so maybe he was also defeated by pride/bad decisions?
@ahau oxlahun robbie Lawler
I can refute your “point” also with three words - Khabib, GSP, Ferguson.
There are a lot of things to be said about each combat sport, but boxers really do LOVE their fight camps.
I always believed road work was primarily about psychological "endurance". From my understanding, there were a lot of pervasive beliefs about defeat coming from giving up, including KOs.
Personally I really value the jump rope. It's a useful prop for gauging my rhythm and seeing how it feels to shift my weight around. I'd be curious to hear your observations on what you think are the best warm ups.
When I did judo/jiu jitsu I didn't find the classic jog around the room, shrimping and breakfalls very useful to get the work out started.
Don't you know that BJJ only works in the gym anyway?
Have you ever tried to grab someone outside of the gym on tHe sTrEetS? Your hand just goes straight through. Completely different physics in the gym than on tHe sTreeTs.
yes bjj is useless in the streets, mma proves this. most of these black belt bjj guys fight stand up for the most part and if they do get someone down (with wrestling takedowns) they result to ground and pound, with bjj coming as the last resort.
@@zephune9506 I think claiming it is useless is an oversimplification.
I think the following is an accurate description:
"The vast majority of BJJ will not aid you in a self-defence scenario (if you are a male), however, having an in-depth understanding of the basic mechanics dramatically increases your ability to get to your feet as fast as possible."
Being really good at the scissor sweep, bucking and rolling, and other basic "escape" moves that stem from BJJ I believe is very beneficial.
@@realitycheckselfdefence7840 yes bjj for ground defence is very beneficial on the streets but defo not for offense unless you are much stronger than your opponent and it is a one on one
Nonsense! I choke out immaterial ghosts on da streetz all the time!
@@realitycheckselfdefence7840 personally I think BJJ is one of the more effective self defense styles 1v1, especially against someone with no training
Great video, Mr Dewey. I'm impressed by how you and other MA UA-camrs will address the same topic in more than one video (I recall your "cardio myth" video) and add new ideas to it, such as cardio being a means to mental strength. Glad to hear it. It's either not boring OR us viewers / subscribers are really into the subject being discussed.
"More talk of cardio? Bring it on!" Not unlike more ice cream, pizza, or Indian food!
One boxer said to me once that once you get used to it, sparring can become no more taxing than hitting the heavy bag. And looking at the pros (though they are elite), that seems to be the case: Little concern about lasting the round and more focus spent on outsmarting the opponent.
Also, whenever I hear people use the words "bane of [their] existence" (12:34), I secretly add under my breath "or the Joker, or the Penguin, or the Riddler..." ;)
Is it really that helpful for Boxers? I know guys who have very good road cardio and they gas after 2 minutes hitting the mitts if they're not used to mitts. It would seem to me that 3 minute of intense interval training with 1 minute rest and repeating that process 12 times is a much more relevant workout for the sport of boxing. If you're an MMA fighter, do 5 minute of intense interval training with 1 min rest and repeat 5 times.
The vast majority of your training minutes should be spent on your specific sport. I absolutely agree with you on sprints. It's better to sprint, break, sprint, break, sprint. Or sprint, lift some weights, sprint, hit the bag all out, few seconds walking, sprint, etc. That is far closer to the load regime you will face in an actual fight. I was training an MMA fighter who had extremely good road work but missing the explosive strength. He was doing a lot of road work and no sprints. I told him he should mix in sprinting.
MMA is like the decathlon with an extremely wide range of requirements. Decathletes will tell you that if they get too good at one discipline, other disciplines suffer. Jogging will give you very good endurance but your explosive muscles will decline.
A few tricks for making roadwork useful is: running on uneven terrain to work on reflexes while working on stamina, running while focusing on a foot pattern to make it normal, take a breath and go as many steps as you can without feeling lightheaded to work on adapt to having less oxygen, practice a breathing pattern to find a way of breathing that takes less effort.
A great coach I knew eve recommend Burpees & shadowboxing combo for conditioning in ring fights i.e.
A 3mintue round.
30sec Burpees, 30sec Shadow box repeat, x3 rounds etc
This will prepare you for fights, stamina in the ring.
What I personally experienced is that doing a lot of shadowboxing increased my speed and improved my stamina as well. I didn't do any running but I was much faster and had more stamina that those who did running.
@@Intuitivelogicalintrovert Why not replicate the 1 minute break so that you can go harder in the 3 minute round? If you keep going the whole time, you're just going to drop intensity and turn it into a full aerobic workout instead of an anaerobic workout. Fighting has lots of anaerobic workloads.
@@GeorgeOu tailored to each individual needs, depends if he wants to work for stamina or anaerobic. This is actually a hard workout, using high burpees jumps, you can also add a heavy bag to this routine. Will work well for amateurs boxers or MMA fighter's.
Excellent video Ramsey. I've been going to the gym and lifting and running. However, I'm going to swap out running for shadowboxing. I will see how this goes. I use to train in Taiji Meihua and Shotokan Karate. Been over a year since I've practiced. However, I got sparring experience and remember how to execute the strikes in my head. Time to get back into it starting tomorrow! Can build cardio and get my form back. Thanks.
Yeah, exboxer here and ex high school wrestler. I did both back in the 80's. The reason you run as a boxer (not talking about MMA or Grappler Striker), is because of the punishment your body takes from boxing. There is only so much sparring you can do as a boxer before you are just taking too much punishment to the head. There is only so much you can hit the heavybag without messing up your hands (and believe me, hitting the heavybag still shakes up your brain!), same is true of speedbag, pads, and middlebag. So in order to make up for that, you run. The great Salvador Sanchez's training regimen consisted of ten rounds of sparring per day, jumping rope, and ten miles of running every day. He never ever got tired and back in those days fights were 15 rounds.
In wrestling and BJJ, it is possible to train and spar all day long or as much as you have time for. In MMA, you can spar striking for a while and then spend the rest of the time grappling. If you had an extra hour to dedicate to training, wouldn't it be better spent getting your cardio from grappling? Putting in an extra two hours of grappling doesn't damage you the same way that putting in an extra two hours of boxing sparring or hitting something. When I was boxing, I would have much rather spent that extra time sparring, but who wants to walk around with a constant headache? So I ran instead even though I hated it!
Very informative and insightful. Even helpful for guys like me more into Traditional Martial Arts.
"Get comfortable with being uncomfortable" - ahh, words of wisdom. I hate doing those quick, explosive cardio workouts, sorry, forgot their name. You know, where you do stuff for 30 sec, then 20 sec rest, do another stuff for 30 sec, another rest, and so on, and finally you wanna throw up. Man, I hate those. I don't even know how to organise them for myself. That is exactly why I have a personal trainer, who tells me what am I gonna do within next half an hour, checks my time, tells me to tighten my core, correct my form. But I kinda love them afterwards, because I feel much better the next day, and I sleep like a deaf baby. So I look forward to next training session. But I still hate doing them. That is my own way of getting comfortable with uncomfortable. I got help. Thank you for reading my comment. Now get outta there and choo-choo!
Shadow boxing is the best cardio for a boxer. It not only makes you sweat a lot it also makes your movements fast and in sync.
I rock with alot of your opinions, and this was one of my favorite videos. Thanks for the great advice and the truth.
Practicing breakfalls IS "roadwork".
Breakfalls on the concrete*
I for one do advocate for more running. And thank you coach for explaining proper running vs improper(on the tow, not heel to toe). Now I watch your videos regularly so I'm familiar with your stance in running. And I think at minimum, running/sprints is a good warmup to the actual workout. Everything is moving/working. I personally only do running prior to my workouts(on the toes every time). If I'm on a treadmill, I'll do about 1 mile or 10mins on an incline. If I'm outside, I'll run a couple laps around the parking lot or gym building. Usually a light, easy lap, break then followed by a more intense lap that gets me breathing heavy, before I stretch for real and get into my workout be it fitness or martial arts.
I dont really do jump rope. I was never that great at it even when doing it regularly, so I do them less. But I dont hate it, if I'm in a class and the instructor says jump rope, I'll jump rope.
I am an ex-boxer and beginner at jujitsu. I do think running helped my boxing (and I loved it anyway). I did it in mornings / at lunch and did boxing training at night. I think it helped me stay light on my feet as I like to bounce in and out of range rather than expecting to be able to absorb the shock from my opponents on my guard. However, perhaps I could have susbstituted some of the running for resistance training and done more sprints than long runs. At the time the long run was therapeutic / medatative and I needed the stress relief.
However, I suck at jujitsu and a big part of that is I don't know how to be heavy / grounded when it helps in jujitsu and people who are good at jujitsu like to stay in range all of the time ....
Weight distribution takes time to learn
What a clear explanation! Well done!
Inspirational as always coach
I just love listening to u speak sir
For myself, my goal is 5-hours of BJJ classes per week, M-Th. Then i do a full-body weight routine and run over the weekend. If i miss class i will go through individual fundamental drills at home and body weight exercises.
I am not competing, my goal is to become a better tactician. I find the run helps my overall cardio, but rolling is king.
Unexpected and enlightening. Liked and shared.
Very short and highly informative video. Please continue making such type of videos Bro 💪😎👊😎😎👌👍👍
My man !!
Still spouting knowledge 👍🏼
Slow Fighters:
*Jogs while humming Rocky in MuayThai*
Skipping rope and running are great, especially for improving your cardio. It conditions the legs and v02 max, it improves expelling lactic acid faster. And theres no reason to not do it, during the days your not boxing you can run and not feel sore after.
Running isn’t any worse than anything else for joints so long as the recovery is there, like any other form of exercise
Thank you. It's about overuse injuries. It's best to talk to someone left an exercise specialist or a physical therapist.
It’s all about endurance and conditioning ..building that physical and mental endurance is key, sometimes when you’re on that 2nd and 3rd mile you want to quit but you keep going! Gives you that extra push late in the championship rounds when your opponent is tired.. that’s why McGregor fizzled out late in the Mayweather fight while Floyd could’ve went another 6 rounds if he wanted
We do "road work" three days a week at the boxing gym I train at. But since I have a knee issue from doing a lot of Muay Thai for years and wrestling. I don't run a lot anymore, instead I do a lot of Rowing, bike and sprints. And my body is thanking me so much. As far as JJ and boxing go, they are two completely different sports, the cardio for boxing is intense spurts with you constantly moving and hitting then a short 30 sec (in training) or 1min during bouts to catch your breath, then back at it again for 3 mins. I can roll hard for hours straight in JJ, but I can't spar hard for hours. In JJ you can "rest" a lot while holding on, or getting ready to move to another position. While in boxing, there is no time to "rest" like you can in JJ during a bout, until the bell rings. They're two different types of cardio and two different sports with two different types of demands on the body. :)
Thanks for this video Dewey, brilliant as always.
I'd like to ask you this question if you could make a video or even reply to this that would be awesome.
If you're more naturally a Muay Thai guy, or a wrestler/BJJ type of fighter, should you still train as a boxer would, when in a boxing class?
For example, elbows tucked to the body as a boxer would. Or would you allow a student to practise his boxing with more of a Muay Thai base, hands higher and not tucked to the body.
I guess the whole point of my question is, if a Muay Thai guy wanted to become a better puncher, he would probably take up boxing classes, but like you've said before, we fight how we train, so would it be better for the Muay Thai guy to practise boxing as a Muay Thai style, or purely a boxing style? It's a confusing question sorry haha. Love your work!
Injury prevention, or availability of resources is the main reason for cross training. If you can only do BJJ once per week because of your schedule, running in the off days will be better than not running. If you go to BJJ 5 days a week, and you keep getting injured, reducing your training and supplementing it with outside activities, like strength training and cardio, may improve the quality of your training sessions.
Some of us have other lives, and can't train as much as we'd like in our chosen martial art. Supplementing our training with other activities can reduce injury, which means that we can, over the lang term, spend more time training, and learn more of the given martial art. Solo training, partner training, training with a coach--they all teach different skills, and one of the skills is learning how to use them across disciplines. We don't always have access to a partner or a coach, so finding ways to put in the work, while not always "optimal," isn't detrimental, in the long run. Not everyone can have "perfect" training regimens.
You'll also be less likely to quit. Getting injured makes it hard to stay motivated.
Awesome and helpful answer, thank you! Now I know I simply need to shrimp out for 5K each morning along the side of the interstate instead of running. New age road work.
Hahahahaha!!!
I used to do roadwork at least 6km in high speed every single day to help me improve my cardio for bjj. Until I got a shin splints
Haha, this is what happened to me.
Then I switched to concentrating on function strength and conditioning training.
Yoga, flexibility training.
Interval sprints.
Weights, mostly barbell and kettlebels
Bagwork.
im studying strengh and conditioning and im positive training something specific doesnt increase stamina disproportionatly than other cardio. Most people are able to push harder in one exersise than another but whatever exercise your willing to do the longest is always the best exercise to increase stamina (Vo2 max)
I've been watching BKFC and its crazy how the longer clinch changes your fighting strategy. The use of the head and wrestling is clearly visible and is a viable strategy against opponent to clinch and do a little damage, rinse & repeat. Pretty cool.
Very good advice.
really good, thanks
I agree with the concept that you’re body will adapt to whatever you put it through. I am a proponent of road work and jump rope merely for the discipline. However wrapping your ankles and offering extra cushion on your feet will reduce joint issues. But sprinting is better in my opinion
I find that as I got better at Jiu Jitsu and striking that I felt it got less tiring, not just because my cardio for those sports got better but the technique got better. You suddenly get tempted into low intensity tactics like counter punching, or low effort sweeps to get over lower skilled opponents rather than attempting to kill them, so I found some sessions to leave me not very taxed at the end of the day. I think the cardio machines like the Concept 2 or AirDyne are better at consistently hitting you at that VO2 max limit since it keeps you accountable with stats, and you can't slow down or hit softer with pads or heavy bags.
I wonder if sometimes if I internalized embracing the suck for the sake of capoeira. Before the pandemic, I had been taking gymnastics classes to supplement my capoeira. I had set out a goal for myself to be able to perform a specific acrobatic move while in the roda. I knew in order for me to pull the move off, I would need to get my body used to being able to flip while tired. So once I was able to perform the move fairly consistently on the floor, I started adding sprints in between practicing the particular flip, or doing burpees in between performing the flip and seeing how many times I could hit the move in a row. The most of the people I interacted with in gymnastics and capoeira wondered if I lost my ever loving mind.
I train capoeira. Which move were you trying to do? Even if I dont recognize the name, I could look it up for myself.
@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 At the time I was working on a front tuck but I had a goal of eventually being able to have a roda ready front tuck, back tuck, barani(front flip half twist) , and arabian(back flip half twist). The barani and arabian were added to my goals because I wanted to add acrobatic direction change options.
@@Aro2001 that's pretty cool.
hey, I had this question the other day when I watch UFC 221, li eye gouged his opponent when choked, and got out. obviously it violate the rule, but dose this mean it well work in real life, or it only work because his opponent won't break his neck in the ring? thank you for your time.
For the first time, I thought Ramsey was incorrect, then he divided running into jogging and sprinting and I realized, I had made conclusion too fast, without watching the whole thing.
In terms of sprinting, my boxing coach used to tell me that it's good to increase lung capacity, gain control over your breath and he would specifically take us at the sandy beaches from time to time, because he would tell, that sprinting on the sand specifically was perfect for the quick weight shifting and it also allowed shin muscles to become tough enough to endure the process in the ring. I believe the stick was serving the same purpose as sand in terms of weight shifting, I might be wrong tho.
Stick is to keep your hans up and mimic punching
@@mathieufredette3157 That makes more sense :D My guess was incorrect.
One follow up question on this video. You've mentioned that most professional fighters don't train more than 2 hours a day for technique, due to a person's limited capacity per day for learning. Do you consider bag work, shadow boxing, and similar exercises technique work, or no?
It seems that the separation between strategy/tactics (purely cerebral if than else stuff), technique, building muscle memory (sort of same thing), and simple fitness is a blurry sliding scale, and that exercises might include elements of some or all of these.
In that case wouldn't road work, along with strength and general fitness training, be good for when the brain has tapped out but the body can still go?
Thanks man!
I mean, nothing beats running, but you are right. Kudos.
Running 10K everyday for 3 years defiantly work for One Punch Man.
Found a great BKB gym here in Italy where I'm doing some sparring. They told me all the clinch work in BKB, and the wrestling involved. Indeed a different sport.
What city/region?
Milano. The Gym is Molonlabe boxing club
Sportmassaggio thanks for the reply man, I visited Italy recently and am planning to go back and will definitely check the gym out
@@polymathpilgrim207 look up "cristian balsamo bkb" he went to england to compete in some bouts. He trains there. Glad to endorse a good friend and his work.
I hear your points. There is a limited amount of boxing techniques training you can do in a day. But if you want to maintain your optimal weight, boxing techniques alone do not cut it anymore.
You should do some kind of cardio training to burn the excess weight without adding to the muscle soreness.
Thus running.
If you do mma, you are right you can do much more. Some interval running once in a while to peak heart rate, and some skipping for bounce, wont do you harm.
Absolutely true. It’s just like my father told me: If you want to get better at boxing, then box. But, Boxers need to learn to punch hard and fast with all types of punches and from all angles, so heavy bag, speed bag, double end bag, and uppercut bag work needs to be done. But, boxers also need to be strong, so do lots of push ups, pull up’s, military presses, etc. Boxers get hit in the stomach, and rotational power, setting down on punches, slipping, weaving, bobbing, etc., come from the core, so hundreds of sit ups, tons of side bends and back hyperextentions need to be done. Boxers need strong calves and to be light on your feet, so jumping rope is required. A lot of punching Power comes from the legs as well as explosive footwork, so lots of squats are required . Boxers need to ingrain muscle memory, so thousands of punches, footwork drills, head movements, dips, rolls, weaves, bobs, slips, must be done. It’s got to all come together, tying offense movements together with defense movements. This has to be done daily, so shadow boxing needs to be done. Consistency is key. There are so many things you absolutely need to do to box well. It takes a ton of time. There is only so much time in the day, so spend your time wisely. Running will make you better at running though if that’s important to you.
I am a little confused of the description of jogging vs running. Do people normally land heel first when jogging? Even jogging in place tends to be on your toes. Also, for sprinting, is heel involved much at all? I feel like it is toe/ball on the land, a bit of springing that gets the heel closer to the ground(maybe a light touch of the heel) and then sling back off the ball and toes.
Ramsey I just started learning muay thai and they say to swing your arm back for power and balance. In a match especially mma wouldn't this leave that side open for a counter punch? Should you leave your guard up in a match or is it just a matter of speed and distance? Also I've been learning a few karate and Taekwondo kicks from UA-cam. Like hook and question mark kicks. They are shown with the side on stance. Can I learn these from the muay thai stance or do I have to keep changing stances? I've been doing boxing for a while so some of this awkward to me.
Swinging the arm down does create more torque for the kick but can compromise your guard. Some people say that you can hide behind your shoulder and create enough of an angle to avoid being hit but for defence, hands up near your face is usually better. Not literally glued to your head because that will make throwing kicks awkward but just up at head level as opposed to throwing it way below your waist. I wouldn’t worry too much about your stance because it will be constantly changing based on your distance and what you opponent is doing. You’re lucky that you have experience in boxing because you will be able to transition from a square stance to a bladed one more effortlessly than someone stuck in one. Just be aware of leg kicks if you are bladed.
@@LuKe31197 okay cool thanks a lot that makes sense. I just didn't want to be doing the wrong thing and then when I can spar when the gyms open up I'm looking stupid. The past few days I've really started just kicking the bag over and over. I'm starting to finally feel comfortable, have some power, relax and mixing punches in there. I was so tense and over thinking it at first.
Daniel Yerke Yeah kicking the bag ad nauseam as well as shadow boxing to get a feel for following through with a kick if you miss is what really helped me get used to throwing them. There’s no right or wrong with the hands really with a kick. If you go to a more traditional Thai style gym you will probably find the coaches wanting you to whip your hand as much as you can whereas a more contemporary or Dutch style gym will want you to keep your hands up. Neither is wrong and nothing is stopping you from trying both.
@@LuKe31197 OK thank you for the advice and yeah after you do something long enough you develop your own style you are comfortable with.
Rodolfo Viera Is a hero of mine, he does lot of unorthodox strenght/ cardio hill training.
Marcelo Garcia said, that the cardio he gets is from consistent jiu jiutsu sparring.
I run because it makes me better mentally and I believe it helps me push harder when I am tired rolling. Works for me.. but this is interesting... if I change road runs for something else and I feel I still gain mental toughness on the mat then I will consider.. this video does make sense
Turning the stick while running, sounds like working on getting your hands to work separated from your feet
Running is good to build up your aerobic base and strengthening yourself in order to be able to do sprints. Most people’s bodies give out before they can sustain repeated short bursts.
Personally I have started using way more footwork drills and shadowboxing with my students combined with shorter warm up runs before sprints.
Hey coach
I've been searching for information on cloth and dagger (or some other name) fighting but I couldn't fine anything useful.
Do you have any interesting techniques or experiences on this topic?
Thank you for your videos!
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@@RamseyDewey thank you so much!!
Cardio. I can after 7+ years of not, still dance for 15 minutes straight.
But grappling with a 200lbs man wears me out in a few
Harlii Quinn yup, supersets and dropsets are your friends for building that quality enduring muscle
@@imawarrior313 yaa. I'll tell you this. If it was an average guy with I'd have totally been in the win.
So that's pretty awesome.
Harlii Quinn im 265 and i never roll with girls cuz it turns wild lol
@@imawarrior313 see. I seek guys that are bigger because I need to get good at it Incase a dude attacks me.
Harlii Quinn its hard for us muslim fighters to spar girls, if u know Khabib ud understand 🙏🏼
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"Maybe you hate maybe it's what you're afraid of... you should !" - thanks for reminding me...
Interesting, yeah I've just gotten into jujitsu, former high school wrestler, so I have a little bit of grappling experience, I'm 26 now, I've been gym training for about a year lifting weights and running 10 minute warm ups each session, occasionally I do a 20 minute run. Anyway, running i can do sweet as, bot something I practically love but i do it, I push the pase a little more each time, but it doesn't compare to how tired I get doing live rolls, i think there is a little bit of transition as in because I've been running i can adapt some of that cardio over, but to get to that level of tiredness i have to run at a really fast pace for two minutes to gas myself out. So I like what you said about sprinting, because there are alot of short explosive movements which are required, especially because I'm a beginner. Anyway thanks bro, another informative one. See you on the next.
Also it does feel like my knee joints are getting wasted so I might switch to the assault bike.
Hi coach, when it comes to cardio do you think that keeping track of your VO2 max and if so what are the best ways to do that?
12 minute cooper test. Next best thing to the lab. Btw, roadwork actually helps your vo2-max. I dunno why this guy says it's nonsense. Strange. You train heart rate specific, tempo runs etc. Run right, build up and you will see amazing increases. Take Dewey's advice here (I've nothing against his advice otherwise) with a pinch of salt. Jogging is fine, I'm 44 and no problems. You build up to it. Like anything. This was a facepalm video to be honest. He's usually on point to.
Could the running with the sick have something to do with the switch from bare knuckles to gloves?
I find roadwork absolutely essential for muaythai. No roadwork no muaythai absolutely!
So my grumpiness while jogging two miles was kinda validated! Sprinting, yes! I remember my friend being asked what his cardio was: same response as Garcia!
Kudos.
An excellent video as always, but you could at least pass a link showing the boxers running with sticks or some reference.
I know a boxer with some knee issues he just did his cardio on the stationery bike instead
I do know that climbing big hills on my bike definitely increased my endurance in fights. As to whether or not that was purely psychological, I can't be sure but it really really feels physical... lasting longer just got noticeably easier in spite of my skepticism. I doubted that it would help my training... I climb at least 3 times a week now. I've found the steeper shorter runs seem to be more effective, but that's way less concrete. I honestly question whether perceiving steeper shorter runs as more effective is just psychological so. But I have found that to be effective in my training wich inclues BJJ, hence why I keep it in my routine. I don't have all day every day to train... like most of us my time to train is limited... I have no room to keep techniques that are not proving effective, gotta trim the fat.
What you said about heel striking being bad for your joints is 100% true. If you strike with your forefoot first, the % of body weight that you strike with increases gradually because of the shape of the bones in your foot. But if you strike with your heel, you slam most of your body weight down on a single bone all at once. Running shoes are designed to elevate and cushion the heels, giving you a false sense of security. DON'T fall for it! You will get an overuse injury eventually.
Run every day if you want to be a good runner, but be careful HOW you run. And if you want to be a good martial artist, then let's get out there and train!
I believe that theres one important part to roadwork that most ppl dont give it credit for. It improves your "chin". Those countless little impacts transfer all the way to your head and it adapts. There are many examples of fighters that do a lot of running and have insane "chins". Im not saying its a smart thing to bet on - to have a good chin - to tire your opponent by absorbing damage, but it often works :P
I noticed it helps me shoot for takedowns, when I run jog for 3 miles
Hi Ramsey,
Could you please elaborate on the running vs jogging and way of putting your feet down? Just how it affects the joints.
Thanks :)
Toe, ball, heel = running
Heel, ball, toe = jogging
Running = a series of small leaps
Jogging = falling repeatedly onto your heels
@@RamseyDewey thanks!
I found daily jogging overloaded my leg muscles and ended up getting a nasty adductor tear during sparring (my partner broke out my closed guard). Still hurts a year later
Roadwork is also done in old chinese and japanese arts sometimes. (Classically with a wooden plank or armor equipped.) Running is a useful self defense skill (especially sprint and further parkour), but not necessarily a fighting skill. Better than jumprope, because it's useful.
I feel like running would be a good starting point for cardio training, like in those first few weeks or months to make transitioning into the more specific cardio training
Hey coach Ramsey, I wanted your opinion on this. I’m nearly 17 and still in school. I used to enjoy school but now, I have absolutely no interest in it. But I am very interested in MMA and my goal is to one day be in the UFC. I’m not too bad at boxing and Muay Thai but I haven’t really trained a lot. Do you recommend that I go learn BJJ, Wrestling and other martial arts ? Because that’s what I’m going to do. But I saw your video, where you said that most MMA fighters don’t really make much. Do you honestly think that becoming a millionaire off of fighting is too big of a dream ? I also saw your video, where you answered someone’s question about following their dreams. You were talking about having a stable career to financially be able to take care of their futur family. I’m not too concerned about that at the moment because I’m not really planing on having a family until I’m sure I can take care of them. So I feel like I’m not really taking a big risk. I would appreciate it a lot if you gave me your opinion. Thanks man.
IamTensae 1 most fighters work a job and train in their free time until they make it. Don’t give up on your dream, but you just need to be aware you have an incredibly low chance of making it and plan for a backup in case you fail.
Make sure you spar a lot and get some amateur bouts in - can be MMA, but I’d recommend muay Thai fights and bjj comps as it’s easier to find good opponents. You’ll know very quickly if you have the skill to be a top flight pro - you’ll beat everyone you face with ease.
you need to be a world class striker or grappler with some attributes to be in the UFC otherwise forget about it and play soccer. 80% of UFC fighters make less than 50k/year
raju naidu yeah. Plus they have to pay half of it to their coach or something like that.
bigbobabc123 cool. Thanks man.
@@tensae4725 I have some of my boxing videos on my UA-cam channel aswell. Of you want to know anything else about MMA/striking just message me.
Jogging doesn't mean heel first. Jogging is a pace. Fact is, most people have terrible form because of modern shoes. Shoes keep adding more comfort to bad form. Jog barefoot on hard ground and your instincts will quickly correct your form.
Doing more jiu jitsu definitely helps you do more jiu jitsu. You need a whole different. Type of cardio for grappling. I wrestled with my cousin and after like two minutes he was totally gassed while I was just getting started, and he’s a very athletic guy. I’ve only been doing it for a little while and I realize I can now go several rounds and then some when rolling in class.
You should review the Baki anime’s take on mcdojos in the recent tournament arc
Imagine taking Baki serious on real life martial arts.
Actually, imagine liking Baki at all.
Road work is no just running you are working your footwork on the go. For example, while you are on the move you practice duck under and head movement also move running backwards. Punches while you moving, side movements etc. Your striking improves a great deal. So yes things to consider there.
I’m about to start biking to add to BJJ training. For takedown defense
So no jogging for me?
Good, always felt like it combines the worst parts of walking and running, takes a long time (=boring!) and puts a lot of wear&tear to my joints though there's the part of micro fractures making your chins stronger, though I'm not sure, if bone density can ever make up for poor kick checking...
Kinda goes with the topic, for once, but what's your take on using "barefoot" shoes while walking to fix my flat foots a bit?
This just makes so much sense to me and that's why I don't lose time running and I'm convinced jogging is worse for a woman's body that for a men's. I don't think we're built for it. Any thoughts on that or is the subject too sensitive😅? You don't need to answer...
I like to do things my own way so when I train by myself, I don't do rounds. I train on one of my bags (heavy, double end, slip, speed) without looking at the clock. I take a break when I need to, maybe after 30 min or more. I don't think in time, I think in progression. I'll stop when I'm satisfied with the movements or the speed I'm trying to reach and when I'm not, I take a break (I do something else) then I come back to it and it usually works. My brain has processed it or something. A lot of intense hiit boxing sessions are the key for me😉
You may be right. One of the biggest issues with jogging is repeated impact stress on the hip joints. Most women’s hips are aligned at a slightly different angle than most men’s hips which tend to be more vertically aligned. So it makes sense that there would be more stress on the joint.
Stephan Kesting just had a hip replacement surgery, and he’s made a few videos about it. One of the major contributing factors in his opinion was running every day.
@@RamseyDeweythanks for your answer. And don't forget the pressure put on the pelvic floor during the running. I'll just keep boxing 😅🥊♥️
thanks