Ron Carter - Complete interview with Herbie Hancock

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  • @joecopi2458
    @joecopi2458 Рік тому +17

    Ron Carter and Herbie Hancock omg I'm in heaven. Thank you for this!

    • @RonCarterBassist
      @RonCarterBassist  Рік тому +3

      I'm glad you enjoyed, Mr. Copi :) Talking with Herbie is always a pleasure.

    • @jimmoore8951
      @jimmoore8951 8 місяців тому +2

      Listening to you two is always a pleasure

  • @flutieflambert
    @flutieflambert 3 роки тому +132

    This is strange because theses guys don’t know me, and yet they raised me. They are my musical parents and deeply intwined in who I am. I feel a profound, emotional connection listening to them chat. As if they were my uncles. Thank you Ron and Herbie. I will always love you both.

    • @RonCarterBassist
      @RonCarterBassist  3 роки тому +51

      Thank YOU for your kind words, they mean a lot!

    • @flutieflambert
      @flutieflambert 3 роки тому +13

      @@RonCarterBassist ❤️❤️❤️

    • @ComradeStiv
      @ComradeStiv 2 роки тому +4

      Oh man I do feel the same. I was able to thank them both in person some years back. Very special.
      Now with Ron so active and present on his social media, we even get to interact occasionally. What a treat.. who woulda thought 😲

    • @ConradVlogs
      @ConradVlogs 2 роки тому +3

      beautiful. Thank you and a big thanks to both of them

    • @trustnoone9921
      @trustnoone9921 Рік тому +4

      Me too. Only person in my family or among my friends who even knew these guys existed. I was listening to Ron, Herbie, Miles, Tony and Wayne from around ten years old. Everyone around me either hated this music or didn't get it.
      But I did. I loved it. It was my friend and still is.

  • @Derfunkmeister
    @Derfunkmeister 2 роки тому +25

    To think that these Cats played on some of the most important Jazz records of all times so long ago and they are still very active is amazing as they are living Legends.

  • @marblemanda
    @marblemanda 3 роки тому +78

    I’m just honored and grateful to witness these interviews. It’s hard to fathom these gentlemen in such a candid way. Their music has been such an influence on me, and countless millions of artists. To see and hear them so alive, so humble, so giving. To think of their history, who’ve they’ve played with, what they’ve accomplished, what they’ve given to us as I see and hear them converse is incredible to me. They’re still here! Cherish these videos. Thank you Mr. Ron Carter.

  • @EyalZeidman770
    @EyalZeidman770 2 місяці тому +2

    Man. This is history. That chat should be printed and studied in musical academies. Agreed?❤
    Cheers giants ❤❤ cheers 🥂

  • @danielmendez3098
    @danielmendez3098 Рік тому +2

    Hahaha they don't like to practice, that gives me su much relief

  • @MrQmason
    @MrQmason 2 роки тому +7

    " I'm old and I'm proud " .... Herbie Hancock..... such an honor to have both of you still around and talking to each other.

  • @MrBobalew
    @MrBobalew 3 роки тому +46

    These interviews are pure gold. Thanks you (both) for doing this.

  • @beeftheheat
    @beeftheheat 3 роки тому +8

    I feel lucky to hear these 'Legends' speaking as Just People!

  • @timothydaniels504
    @timothydaniels504 Рік тому +3

    In the weeks after 9-11 my wife and I went to two concerts using tickets we’d bought months before. The first one was Kathleen Battle, the talented and beautiful opera singer, the second was Herbie Hancock and his Directions in Music band, the concert in Massey Hall , was recorded and released as an LP. The thing I remember about both events was the conscious effort by both to comfort the audience which was very anxious about public events, terrorism etc. Kathleen did an encore of gospel songs and commented about how music gave comfort to her people in times of pain and loss. The audience was moved to tears by her words and performance. Herbie and his band mates, John Patitucci, Michael Becker, Roy Hargrove and Brian Blade played their butts off, Herbie was charming as ever and we were all swept away by their brilliance. The gift of music, African American music. A great gift to the world.

    • @RonCarterBassist
      @RonCarterBassist  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for sharing this touching story, Mr. Daniels.

  • @khaimang4
    @khaimang4 2 роки тому +7

    As a life-long Herbie Hancock and Ron Carter fan, this interview is right on target. As a Jazz pianist, Herbie has had an immense impact on my style and delivery. Ron Carter is a master bassist. Watching these two in a current, real-world conversation? What could be better?

  • @SolarMumuns
    @SolarMumuns 3 роки тому +17

    May the universe continue to bless you fantastic gentlemen. Love you both

  • @mtoddne
    @mtoddne 2 роки тому +6

    It's an honor to hear the views of two great people and two of the greatest legends of Jazz music. Thank you Ron and Herbie for 60+ years of great music.

  • @cheneyrobert
    @cheneyrobert 3 роки тому +9

    Herbie is so right…..we are all learning and life is change…constant change…transition….learning from the young 👏👏👏great chat Ron 😎👏👏👏👍🏻🥂

  • @wjstephens4654
    @wjstephens4654 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you Mr. Carter. One legend interviewing another and both warm, down to earth men. All the best.

  • @johndaker9489
    @johndaker9489 3 роки тому +12

    Ron- I just found your channel. This is SO great. What brilliant questions you had for HH. Let me say, you and your friend Herbie, are such great artists and humanitarians. Musically, you have given the universe endless music at the highest level. You guys are so pure and original. Thank you, is not enough to say, but I dont know what to say. I saw you with VSOP2 at the Hollywood Bowl about 35 years ago, and I still cant believe how great you guys were, and Tony and Wayne, left me speechless. You and your bass have brought millions of us great joy that changed us, moved us and left us with such joy and happiness in our memory.

  • @Deayjay
    @Deayjay 3 роки тому +17

    2 of my music heroes! These interviews are treasures! Thanks you so much Mr. Carter! Many blessings to you!

  • @DavesMusicTube
    @DavesMusicTube 5 місяців тому +2

    This is absolutely incredible. Brought me to tears! Thank you so much for sharing Mr. Carter. So inspiring to hear one of the best musicians talk about practice!

  • @joshuacervenkamusic327
    @joshuacervenkamusic327 3 роки тому +1

    How blessed is the music community having access to videos like this with two mammoth players just talking to each other.

  • @cooldebt
    @cooldebt 2 роки тому +7

    What a precious lesson from these jazz legends about not just music but how to navigate life with humility, grace and love. Thank you both for so many years of joyful jazz.

  • @carlosnagy
    @carlosnagy 2 роки тому +5

    Two monsters of Jazz. They still look young.!! I would like to see them play together again.. It would be great..!!

  • @michaelobrien8219
    @michaelobrien8219 3 роки тому +22

    it's so enlightening to hear a couple of intelligent guys talk about how covid affected their craft and their creative process eg the struggle to practice - hearing that made me feel better somehow - thanks Ron and Herbie!

  • @wademiyataki9221
    @wademiyataki9221 3 роки тому +21

    You gentlemen aren’t old. Like a fine wine, you only get better with age!
    Great to hear legends just talk. Not as good as listening to you two play together, but still glad to just listen.
    Thank you, maestro! Thank you, Mr. Hancock!

  • @hiphopchild9540
    @hiphopchild9540 3 роки тому +8

    Dear Mr Carter,
    I was born in 1972, so i was like : "F" Jazz...Old stuff, outdated style...Still, some jazz tune would catch my ears, this how i still choose a jazz album : Is Mr Carter playing the bass ? you made discover so many great artist, different genres, like Bach...Thank you so much.
    Ps : I'm bass player of course.

  • @neilcrowesongs9768
    @neilcrowesongs9768 2 роки тому +6

    Just beautiful. Smile bringin, wisdom dropping, thoughtful, funny and graceful. I'm grateful for what you both continue to breath into our lives, Mr C.

  • @adambartone9193
    @adambartone9193 7 місяців тому +1

    I have been studying ron on nefertiti the last few days. WoW! What a treat to see these 2 together

  • @verasampson7584
    @verasampson7584 2 роки тому +3

    This bit of insight into the effects of the pandemic of two great musicians was a joy

  • @golds04
    @golds04 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful. Ron saw you the other night at the Vanguard with my daughter- showing her the beauty of American classical music. Pls try to get an interview with Wayne??
    Ty and Herbie- the joy you have given the world.

  • @aquemini9213
    @aquemini9213 3 роки тому +8

    i love this interview, it's more like an introspective chat with a buddy

  • @jazzbirdbecky
    @jazzbirdbecky 3 роки тому +12

    They both look much younger than their years. 🌹

  • @MrHoothaven
    @MrHoothaven 2 роки тому +4

    I always love listening to humble. Honest and giving great musicians and human beings. Thank you Ron for your continued deficatiom to all of us.

  • @strech5412
    @strech5412 3 роки тому +4

    You are both amazing inspirations. While I grew up in Australia in the 1980’s, your music inspired me to play. I went on to teach more than 3000 K-12 music students in outback Australia, Vietnam, Turkey, Romania, and America, all about how to play blues and jazz in school bands. Every one of them saw large posters of you, and Billie Holiday, and Mary Lou Williams, and many other Jazz Greats, on my music-room walls during their lessons. I thought in 30 years of teaching my posters would get ruined eventually. Not one of them was touched, all 3000+ students treated your images with great respect. Probably because your music is so wonderfully respectful of everything. Thanks for your music, thanks for your gift of my career. Sincerely.

  • @danielm4114
    @danielm4114 3 роки тому +19

    Couple absolute legends

    • @hiphopchild9540
      @hiphopchild9540 3 роки тому +2

      His appearances on 2,221 recording sessions make him the most-recorded jazz bassist in history !!!! I have only 300 of them...

    • @danielm4114
      @danielm4114 3 роки тому +2

      @@hiphopchild9540 My comment stands, now with a little help. Herbie looking good too for 80...both dudes so prolific and so brilliant...Herbie's harmonic understanding, Ron's bedrock sense of rhythm and timing.

  • @jonas96313
    @jonas96313 2 роки тому +1

    Mr. Carter, I discovered you through Gil Scott Heron and his album Pieces of a Man around one year ago. Then I saw your interview with Rick Beato and now I am here. You and Herbie just casually talking together nearly made me cry. It is such a strange feeling when you realize that we actually CAN communicate with all the greats that are still alive through the Internet. Thank you everything that you have done, Mr. Carter! Have a nice day! Greetings from Lithuania!

  • @robertjoseph8008
    @robertjoseph8008 2 роки тому +1

    Kudos to Mr. Ron Carter for sharing another "teaching moment" with this articulate yet down-to-earth interview with Mr. Herbie Hancock. I last had the privilege of seeing Herbie Hancock perform at the University of Arizona--Tucson on 06 March 2018. I definitely miss those live "gigs"....

  • @adamdictatedbutnotreadkadh8719
    @adamdictatedbutnotreadkadh8719 2 роки тому +5

    This is so wholesome and amazing to see. Such kind souls in such a difficult time.

  • @ivettepalacin8599
    @ivettepalacin8599 3 роки тому +15

    Fascinating conversation, COVID really changed our lives, stopped our lives. It’s affected each artist a little differently because of geographic location. Great opportunity here to learn so much about them, in a spontaneous way. It is understand but frightening to hear Herbie acknowledge how things have really changed in some major way and he finds it hard to imagine returning to performance or traveling. I really enjoy the friendship they share, they are hilarious with inside jokes. It would have been cool, actually to have seen them on zoom or UA-cam etc performing remotely together. Great show! Thank you.

    • @RonCarterBassist
      @RonCarterBassist  3 роки тому +3

      Thank you for sharing

    • @ulyssesgarner328
      @ulyssesgarner328 3 роки тому

      Listening to these giants, I find my ears perched to guide me to a. more insightful reading of the magic that existed in the Great Quintet: Miles once said, “ Herbie can be the next Duke Ellington “; and Herbie responded,” I have seen the pressure and lost of life control that can occur with that type of fame and historical demands- I do not want any part of that”. Did Herbie walk away from the responsibilities that his genius demands..?

  • @MostafaTamer89
    @MostafaTamer89 2 роки тому +3

    Absolute living legends. It’s a blessing to see you both healthy and doing well, I’m indebted eternally to the brilliant music these legends Mr. Ron Carter and Mr. Herbie Hancock made for generations of music fans and jazz lovers, thank you and God bless you both 🙏🏾

  • @carlosfernandoferreirafari2744
    @carlosfernandoferreirafari2744 2 роки тому +1

    Yes !!.......I agree with marblemanda's words , thank you very much to share this converse

  • @themusicofmiles
    @themusicofmiles 3 роки тому +1

    it has really been a great pleasure to be with you! thanks!

  • @hiphopchild9540
    @hiphopchild9540 3 роки тому +5

    I really like South India classical music, I dream about how great it would be to hear you in that field..take care Sir

  • @nikigba
    @nikigba 4 місяці тому +1

    Always a pleasure to hear you talk

  • @thomasjohnsonjr4913
    @thomasjohnsonjr4913 2 роки тому

    I MET YOU MR CARTER WHEN I WAS WORKING AT CLINTON RECORDING STUDIOS ON 46ST AND TEN AVENUE BACK IN EARLY 90''S, I WAS THE GUY WHO MADE AND BOUGHT THE COFFEE, MADE SURE THAT WHATEVER FOOD YOU ORDERED WAS DELIVERED TO YOU, YOU WAS HUMBLE THEN AS YOU ARE NOW DOING THIS, GLAD TO HAVE MET YOU MR CARTER, THE GRASTEST BASS PLAYER IN JAZZ EVER, STILL THE INNOVATOR, THANK AND MUCH BLESSINGS!!!!!!!!!

  • @danmartinazzi
    @danmartinazzi 7 місяців тому

    Thank you both for great inspiration!

  • @andytupaia
    @andytupaia 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you Ron for this interview it’s nice to see you both talking sharing
    all this with us love you guys

  • @JohanKhiski
    @JohanKhiski 8 місяців тому +2

    I love you guys !!! 🫶❤️❤️🙌✊

  • @fxaarchable
    @fxaarchable 2 роки тому +1

    Ron: Thanks for posting this. I love the interview and I love Herbie's positive Buddhist attitude. I see you are from Ferndale Michigan. I live in Royal Oak, just a stones throw from there. I also see you live on the upper westside. I went to Columbia for Architecture and lived up there for about 10 years in the mid 80's then in Tarrytown for another 10. I'm also a guitar player about 2 years into learning Jazz. Can't wait to see you play again. Peace

  • @Gibfenez
    @Gibfenez 2 роки тому +1

    To see the beautiful humanness of these two giants is a privilege. The world can learn from them. Thank you both for all.

  • @aussie_philosopher8079
    @aussie_philosopher8079 3 роки тому +3

    What legends, that headhunters album got me right into these guys, they had a real vibe happening in the early 70s with the whole funk jazz thing.

  • @jeffcrousedrums1584
    @jeffcrousedrums1584 2 роки тому +1

    Two of my heroes! I'm thankful for you both.

  • @Solazur007
    @Solazur007 Рік тому +1

    I loved Herbie’s answer about the first thing he’s gonna do.. he says he’s gonna chant Namu Myoho Renge Kyo…I encountered Herbie when he was touring after the Headhunters LP. I was hanging out with my buddy with Tower of Power who were headlining at the Roxy. I was drawn to Herbie’s space backstage… he and his whole crew were chanting. Curious I asked what they were doing. So he explained it to me and taught me how to chant too. A gracious man.. this is an amazing “interview”… one GIANT chatting up another GIANT.
    #monstersofjazz

  • @benosmo8653
    @benosmo8653 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you Ron Carter, these are heartwarming and intimate interviews 🤗

  • @DigitalEelRich
    @DigitalEelRich 3 місяці тому +1

    I can really relate to your observations, RC. I thought/felt similarly about most of those things.

  • @lavatar3562
    @lavatar3562 3 роки тому +12

    The world will never be the same again because of Covid but I take solace in Herbie and Ron’s positivity for the future.

  • @thorpeenith3436
    @thorpeenith3436 3 роки тому +2

    Wow, love these interviews, Both of these men are amazing, top-rate musicians, and on top of that, just warm, wonderful people. Thank you!!!

  • @toddhouston4523
    @toddhouston4523 3 роки тому +4

    Great interview. Thanks!

  • @Purplespirit75
    @Purplespirit75 2 роки тому +1

    What a gem ... thanks a lot sir ...

  • @elanparle
    @elanparle 2 роки тому

    Just a brilliant interview. Thank you Ron and Herbie.

  • @eliadelvescovo9473
    @eliadelvescovo9473 3 роки тому

    So happy to have the opportunity to witness these chats!

  • @tobtomusic
    @tobtomusic 3 роки тому +2

    great talk! funny and important. thanks a lot!!

  • @lindaregelean8015
    @lindaregelean8015 2 роки тому +1

    Just love this!

  • @MegaSteve1957
    @MegaSteve1957 3 роки тому +1

    A lot of love in that there duet.

  • @KristopherCraig
    @KristopherCraig 3 роки тому +3

    This is such a brilliant interview! I was struggling with practicing through this pandemic as well. It’s reassuring to hear that I’m not the only one.

    • @RonCarterBassist
      @RonCarterBassist  3 роки тому +4

      We are not alone.

    • @KristopherCraig
      @KristopherCraig 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much. It was actually a very productive day. I got my Chet Atkins on, and practiced my butt off. I attribute it to listening to you and Herbie chit chat.

  • @fruitypebbles803
    @fruitypebbles803 2 роки тому +1

    This is an incredible interview. They’re just like two regular dudes!

  • @ypolchenko-freejazz-guitar
    @ypolchenko-freejazz-guitar 3 роки тому +1

    a great talk, my heroes! you are funny and important. Ron has great baritone voice. Many thanks for your high spirit mood!

  • @exerciserelax8719
    @exerciserelax8719 3 роки тому

    Mr. Carter, it's so awesome that you're doing this! To get such an insight into the lives of creative musicians is a gift to all music lovers, today and in future generations. It's wonderful to see you and Herbie Hancock still going strong. You have given SO much to the world in your music and other ways.
    I love the fact that Mr. Hancock talked about still learning new things and both of you mentioned practicing every day! It truly is a lifelong journey being a musician, or really any other field of expertise. No one "knows it all" we are all learning and growing every day of our lives, if we're doing it right! 🙂

  • @rodtrues1
    @rodtrues1 Рік тому +1

    And I thought I was the only one that hated practicing 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ronniecbx6210
    @ronniecbx6210 3 роки тому +3

    Great!!! 👏👏👏

  • @brianswindall
    @brianswindall 2 роки тому

    I cannot believe the interviews that are happening. All these legends with nothing to do causa Covid. Keep your chops up fellas. Y’all be back on the road soon!

  • @geewillikers5342
    @geewillikers5342 3 роки тому +1

    How does this not have millions of views? Oh, right… not clickbait.

  • @peterismyfirstname2872
    @peterismyfirstname2872 3 роки тому +4

    Maybe that's what great music I connect with means to me, sleeping in my own bed. Universal thoughts and vibes we share. There's nothing like sleeping in our own beds. Thanks guys for giving me so much assistance in my life over the years. Best wishes.

  • @eshaibraheem4218
    @eshaibraheem4218 2 роки тому

    Such a pleasure Thank you both.

  • @exveeex9153
    @exveeex9153 3 роки тому +1

    this is absolutely legendary. thank you so much for this!

  • @lukecurran1198
    @lukecurran1198 2 роки тому +1

    you guys are great. I enjoyed the conversation, thanks for the upload

  • @PaulMcKendrick
    @PaulMcKendrick 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you.

  • @bigkingsha
    @bigkingsha 3 роки тому

    It's encouraging to hear 2 people at this level of mastery explain how certain things can stiffen or atrophy if not kept warm on a regular basis. Such is the case with my oil painting. I simply went from larger canvases to smaller ones as practice pieces but I never actually come to a complete "stop". When I'm not painting I'm still thinking about new ideas and researching methodologies so I'm always engaged in connecting with the art itself in some capacity. Thank you both for sharing your wisdom!

  • @legoman9885
    @legoman9885 11 місяців тому +1

    man i just love herbies laughter lmaoo

  • @TheTorresProject
    @TheTorresProject 3 роки тому +4

    This is heart warming.

  • @johndoe1765
    @johndoe1765 3 роки тому +2

    Nothing but beautiful sonic history here i love it.

  • @lucky4724
    @lucky4724 2 роки тому +1

    Still have both you cats autographs, caught brotha Ron🎻 at "Sweet basil's" and brotha Herbie🎹 at the "Village gate" (NYC) during the 80's !! 2 Swingin cats!!! Ya dig!! #MaidenVoyage🎼🎵🎶🔥♨️🔥

  • @JesseBatesDrums
    @JesseBatesDrums 3 роки тому +2

    Nice one Ron.

  • @epicon6
    @epicon6 2 роки тому +1

    This was amazing! Thank you for sharing this.

  • @terrysmith1434
    @terrysmith1434 2 роки тому +2

    These are two musical geniuses of our time

  • @MultiDrummer19
    @MultiDrummer19 2 роки тому +1

    This is Amazing!

  • @Azel954
    @Azel954 Рік тому +1

    Amazing.

  • @ibassnote
    @ibassnote 2 роки тому

    So nice to hear the difficulty with practicing. I alway wished for more time so I could really focus on an extended practice regiment. Then when I had it handed to me I was completely lost. The future has always been an important element in my music, working towards something, reaching. I just could not focus. I did try to play some fundamentals every day but I could only do it for a few moments at a time. Finally I reached out to a bassist I barely knew for some Bach cello suite fingerings and that helped me get back in. I strung up my bass with some solo strings and started at it.

  • @HarryMillerMusicOfficial
    @HarryMillerMusicOfficial 3 роки тому +2

    This is great. Thank you!

  • @BernieHollandMusic
    @BernieHollandMusic 3 роки тому +2

    3:50 there's that word again Unfathomable ! - that is the Mystic Law - as is the depth of our capacity as enlightened human beings - each and every one of us without exception or discrimination - and that's the reason I chant as well - in fact I chanted with Herbie when I did a gig with him here in London over 30 years ago - Nam Myoho Renge Kyo Herbie ! - Nam Myoho Renge Kyo Ron !

    • @BernieHollandMusic
      @BernieHollandMusic 3 роки тому

      I love that album you did with Jim Hall in 1973 "Alone Together" - "Receipt, Please" xxx

  • @gontsemabusela7574
    @gontsemabusela7574 2 роки тому +1

    Lifetime friendship of jazz giants

  • @badscrew4023
    @badscrew4023 3 роки тому

    BIG THANK YOU

  • @fidfdez6191
    @fidfdez6191 3 роки тому

    Thanks COVID for making this conversation possible and Thanks to these Masters for the gift of sharing it wit us. I respect/admire your talent as musicians and I now had a taste of your humanity!!! Blessings to both of you and your families!!!

    • @RonCarterBassist
      @RonCarterBassist  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for your kind words. We all enjoyed doing these.

  • @l.davidhinton514
    @l.davidhinton514 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent

  • @avialbersbenchamo4797
    @avialbersbenchamo4797 3 роки тому

    Ron have a beautiful grace 🙏

  • @jcjazz4433
    @jcjazz4433 3 роки тому +1

    Wonderful interview

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 2 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing Ron, I didn't know you had a youtube channel until today. Happy New Year 2021.

  •  3 роки тому +1

    So cute you 2! love ya!

  • @theartofancientegyptianmet1747
    @theartofancientegyptianmet1747 2 роки тому

    You are all GODS!

  • @autismguy2060
    @autismguy2060 2 роки тому +2

    I cant believe Herbie Hancock and Ron Carter still have to practice their instruments after 65+ years of experience 😮

    • @RonCarterBassist
      @RonCarterBassist  2 роки тому +3

      There's no substitute for putting in the work 💪🏽

    • @autismguy2060
      @autismguy2060 2 роки тому +1

      @@RonCarterBassist Are you the real Ron Carter?

    • @chiefauralist
      @chiefauralist 2 роки тому

      No matter how long you do something, in order to remain functional, proficient, and professional, ONE MUST PRACTICE!!!😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @Noidal77
    @Noidal77 3 роки тому +1

    Legends!!

  • @rupertpupkin4348
    @rupertpupkin4348 2 роки тому +1

    Very early, my dad introduced me to the Ellery Queen Readers Digest stories (Ray Chandler/ Hammett/ James Cain) and writing never got any better. I was cursed early.
    Same thing w/these 2 guys. I found them too early (14/15) and music never got any better. Cursed again!