NHS Gender Identity Services 'Failed' Children In New Study | This Morning's View

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  • @PanicBeach
    @PanicBeach 8 місяців тому +74

    Tom Swarbrick is spot on here. But this was more than "medical negligence". It was medical malpractice on a massive scale, involving thousands of children over a period of more than 20 years, overseen by NHS managers, with any dissenting voices either bullied or ignored. Dozens of psychologists resigned from GIDS because they could not bear what they saw.

    • @gnoelalexmay
      @gnoelalexmay 7 місяців тому +2

      Well said 👏

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 7 місяців тому +1

      He meant to say negligent and he said negligible.

  • @Skullskoot
    @Skullskoot 8 місяців тому +97

    Vanessa Feltz was bullying those who spoke out about this only a year ago now reverse ferreting. She was complicit. Awful human.

    • @Fionacampbell79
      @Fionacampbell79 8 місяців тому

      *stayed rather neutral 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @queenvickyv
      @queenvickyv 8 місяців тому

      She was fantastic

    • @benfisher1376
      @benfisher1376 6 місяців тому

      Alot of media types and celebrities will do a u turn on this topic now. They just went along with it to keep their jobs

  • @nottodaysatan101
    @nottodaysatan101 8 місяців тому +205

    This is what we’ve been saying for so long but we were called ‘transphobic’

  • @awwsweetsxo
    @awwsweetsxo 8 місяців тому +165

    I completely agree that these vulnerable children were experimented on. If a child doesn’t feel comfortable in their gender, medical professionals shouldn’t be prescribing puberty blockers, that can cause irreversible damage, without clinical trials showing positive outcomes for an extended period of time.

    • @CatsandJP
      @CatsandJP 8 місяців тому +1

      Unless you are actually going through this…you cannot and do not have the right to judge….you haven’t got a clue…this goes back since human existence….check your history books…especially Neolithic times….many people women,men and children where made eunuchs, cross dressed and castrated for various purposes like punishment, slavery, religious beliefs even young boys who were singers to keep their voices child like.

    • @SpareSomeChange8080
      @SpareSomeChange8080 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@CatsandJPleave the kids alone

    • @CatsandJP
      @CatsandJP 8 місяців тому +5

      @@SpareSomeChange8080I doubt you would even know what intersex children have to go through when they are born and the parents have to decide if the child should be..a male or female…

    • @cockneycharm3970
      @cockneycharm3970 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@CatsandJP Yeah, thanks to parents, media and school.

    • @SpareSomeChange8080
      @SpareSomeChange8080 8 місяців тому +17

      @@CatsandJP why can't you understand, that gender surgery or puberty blocking drugs *should not be given to children?!* Children have the mindset of wanting to be a plate of mash potatoes when they get older, in what world do you think they are fit enough to permanently damage their body?

  • @aaronhanlon772
    @aaronhanlon772 8 місяців тому +65

    How do you take the heat out of the the fact that people were pushing mutilating children.....

  • @KevinArdala01
    @KevinArdala01 8 місяців тому +24

    The guy in the brown top nailed it. It reminds me of how we look back in horror at how people were treated in mental institutions years ago - electroshock therapy for minor problems or even the social problems of the day - and now, looking back, we are rightly appalled. If future generations have any sense they'll look back on this episode with a similar disbelief - "how could we have done that to children!"

  • @dudeorduuude5211
    @dudeorduuude5211 8 місяців тому +20

    I share your rage. There should be rage about this. Everyone being called "transphobic" for questioning and caring about more than hurting feelings, but actually about their mental and physical health. I hope there are a ton of lawsuits.

  • @joni3345
    @joni3345 8 місяців тому +59

    Im GENUINELY surprised this was aired on national TV! Is the pendulum finally swinging back? I sure do hope so! Let Common sense win!!

    • @dudeorduuude5211
      @dudeorduuude5211 8 місяців тому +3

      Sadly it is still going to be slow. I am in Canada, and only 2 sources have reported on this. It is in major papers in Engish speaking countries, not here. Too many people have drank the kool-aid, it is going to take a long time to deprogram them, and many won't change at all.

  • @jennd9091
    @jennd9091 8 місяців тому +19

    Great to finally see this issue covered in mainstream

  • @rachelnguyen1655
    @rachelnguyen1655 8 місяців тому +24

    Anyone sensible already knew that what they were doing to these children was wrong.

    • @gnoelalexmay
      @gnoelalexmay 7 місяців тому +6

      Indeed.
      Being "sensible" these days involves looking to alternative media sources.
      I'm glad this has FINALLY reached the 'mainstream' - a decade or two late.

  • @apgx6032
    @apgx6032 8 місяців тому +38

    Many of us middle aged folks will agree when aged 15-18 we thought we knew everything about everything. Now we realise we knew very little so please protect our children when they are still finding their way in life.

  • @robbie_
    @robbie_ 8 місяців тому +9

    What happened is extraordinary. Administrators, doctors, surgeons involved should be prosecuted.

  • @jokerdanny9255
    @jokerdanny9255 8 місяців тому +111

    So when is the public apology to J.K. Rowling and Graham Linehan?

    • @Josie545
      @Josie545 7 місяців тому +9

      Hear hear!

    • @mrhat50
      @mrhat50 7 місяців тому +5

      100%

    • @Patrick-tf9bl
      @Patrick-tf9bl 6 місяців тому +4

      Absolutely! 100%

    • @benfisher1376
      @benfisher1376 6 місяців тому +5

      Graham is very brave, and has fought back tirelessly on this, losing money and employment along the way. Good man.

    • @BurnerBagel
      @BurnerBagel 2 місяці тому

      They're both crazy but in the other direction

  • @sallyfield3169
    @sallyfield3169 8 місяців тому +3

    Well done Tom for speaking the truth.

  • @catwoman2582
    @catwoman2582 8 місяців тому +11

    I'm coming up to my 64th birthday later this month and have never met anyone during my formative years who had gender dysphoria. I had gay friends, both male and female which i instinctively knew were who they were and it never bothered me, even though i was brought up by fairly straightlaced Scottish parents in the 1960s and 70s. This current issue i feel is created by powers known or unknown, to genetically modify western society.... 😮

  • @SamhuinnSam
    @SamhuinnSam 8 місяців тому +19

    ...how many things have you thought you wanted as a teenager... then didn't...

    • @lucylu2927
      @lucylu2927 8 місяців тому +4

      👏Literally, everything I said I wanted as a teenager. Literally everything 👏

  • @Angelika-ii7ep
    @Angelika-ii7ep 7 місяців тому +4

    People should absolutely be angry about this! We were bullied by an ideology that the medical field bowed down to. I am so glad that these reports are out, and that people are realising what has been done to these young and vulnerable people. This one hits close to home for me, and I am so thankful that I am a hardheaded stubborn woman who told my child not until you are an adult and can make your own decisions. Therapy for her has done wonders. What a catastrophe!

  • @URFUTUREUK
    @URFUTUREUK 8 місяців тому +54

    The NHS has failed in more than this..

    • @maryamkiani2738
      @maryamkiani2738 8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah this is just a topic and a big one within the NHS they have talked about other issues too..

    • @URFUTUREUK
      @URFUTUREUK 8 місяців тому +2

      @@maryamkiani2738 I watch the show daily. Let's hope they speak the truth for once about this entity so that it can be investigated and either reformed or completely closes down and a new national health recreated without the corruption.

    • @guillermoelnino
      @guillermoelnino 8 місяців тому +2

      because they haven't resorted to the Canadian healthcare solution yet?

    • @boobopish
      @boobopish 8 місяців тому +1

      The British (some, not all) have let their health system down. Ppl who have the attitude of. I can eat what i want, do what i want, and I don’t care, it’s all free anyway. These ppl won’t even pay for their own panadol, eat processed foods all day long, don’t move, these are often time the same ppl who have the attitude of, why should i get a job? the government should pay for me.
      Yet, these same ppl complain when the U.K. starts to become a nanny state.
      What I’ve said here is controversial now, but I’m sick of pc, so there it is, the truth.

    • @gnoelalexmay
      @gnoelalexmay 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@guillermoelnino
      ...yet! 😬 (MAID in Canada ☠️)

  • @murraybozinsky7067
    @murraybozinsky7067 8 місяців тому +17

    A lot of back peddling going on.

  • @tamarblackburn4312
    @tamarblackburn4312 8 місяців тому +34

    Here is the result of cutting funding on mental health services. WHY was there not more access to counseling and medical assessment? Lack of funding. Not ideology. These were very vulnerable teens. I took a suicidal teen to the hospital and they told me to go home. My friend’s son ended up killing himself the next day.
    Disgraceful how austerity has impacted and neglected the UK population’s mental health.

    • @primmiexoxo
      @primmiexoxo 8 місяців тому

      you can and should go to the press and sue. i have vulnerablities like that and im being treated like that too. Help those of us who are still here and suffering at the hands of the nhs, please

    • @charlenefursland48
      @charlenefursland48 8 місяців тому

      That is heartbreaking, so sorry.

  • @Ahasveros7674
    @Ahasveros7674 8 місяців тому +8

    The people who did this should be charged!

  • @liammccann8763
    @liammccann8763 8 місяців тому +21

    No one is born in the wrong body.

  • @RedRoosterhighjump
    @RedRoosterhighjump 8 місяців тому +9

    Those doctors were given reign to play Frankenstein period

    • @gnoelalexmay
      @gnoelalexmay 7 місяців тому

      ...no pun intended? 🤔

    • @RedRoosterhighjump
      @RedRoosterhighjump 7 місяців тому

      @@gnoelalexmay what are you for? Are you for the review or no?

    • @gnoelalexmay
      @gnoelalexmay 7 місяців тому

      @@RedRoosterhighjump
      It was a joke, based on your choice of words.
      I have extremely strong criticisms of the gender cult if you must know.

    • @RedRoosterhighjump
      @RedRoosterhighjump 7 місяців тому

      Well excuse me I was just asking where you fell on the meter

  • @stephaniefarrant
    @stephaniefarrant 8 місяців тому +8

    We also need to be asking WHY there has been such a fast uptick in children experiencing 'gender-related stress', and then we should fix the problem. My bet is the blame lies on the shoulders of adults who have introduced this new ideology to children, completely confusing them and causing them unnecessary emotional distress. And everyone else lets it happen through fear of being labelled some kind of phobic or ism. All four of those presenters were terrified while presenting this story.

    • @themikaylashow1987
      @themikaylashow1987 2 місяці тому

      I knew since I was 6 that I should of been born a girl. As for kids being "fast tracked" I waited 2 weeks short of FOUR YEARS before I could access hormones on the NHS (I was going private for 2 years before the NHS took over). People who work at gender clinics are QUALIFIED MEDICAL EXPERTS!!!!

  • @itsallgood8347
    @itsallgood8347 8 місяців тому +12

    Feltz is dreaming about this expert doctor drivel, and speaking way outside her station. Frequently, these poor kids deal with ideologues in the psychology world, who have abandoned non-judgemental / neutral counselling, where they explore a child's problems, and allow them to come to their own conclusions over time. They now verify (sometimes, with minutes of meeting kids) what their thoughts are, and talk them down a road of transitioning. Just a few years ago, this was viewed as dreadful counselling, which could get you fired.

    • @brandyhaywood6256
      @brandyhaywood6256 8 місяців тому +1

      Feltz is ill informed and captured by the ideology. She’s always given the impression she supported what went on. Tom is the only one who knows what he’s talking about.

  • @johnnytower6169
    @johnnytower6169 8 місяців тому +4

    Why does anyone seem surprised by this?

  • @garystewart2306
    @garystewart2306 8 місяців тому +13

    We should absolutely be directing anger towards those who have pushed this ideology in the “interest” of vulnerable children. These people are not acting in their best interest. They have caused this damage and should be called out. Medical professionals have felt compelled to push the boundaries of science and in order to appease these ideologists at the expense of young people.

  • @fionapannett1509
    @fionapannett1509 8 місяців тому +36

    I am reading Kathleen Stock's book - why reality matters. Point and case - puberty is a biological necessity - man or woman! Shocking this was allowed. I am all for trans-rights but puberty blockers were not the answer.

  • @beewa8840
    @beewa8840 8 місяців тому +3

    Check out this article from March 2024 - WPATH: The truth about “gender-affirming healthcare”

  • @willdavies5370
    @willdavies5370 8 місяців тому +5

    But the question we are not considering is why were trials not done and why wasn’t funding dedicated to research on this medication. Puberty blockers are not a brand new thing, they have been around for decades so there could have been in depth data gathered on this by now.

    • @9395gb
      @9395gb 8 місяців тому +2

      Because pharmacy/drug companies and plastic surgeons were allegedly pushing these treatments. They have the most to gain financially from this.

    • @gnoelalexmay
      @gnoelalexmay 7 місяців тому

      It's a combination of the 'why would the industry pay vast amounts for a study that would undermine their incredibly lucrative business?' - and the 'you can't find what you don't look for' paradigms.
      Science on Vitamin D supplementation has been a victim of this for decades - nothing to gain, and a LOT to lose (if there are general improvements in people's health).
      Certain high profile "prophylactic" medications have also seen this in SPADES. The independent science is extremely revealing.
      Scandalous.

  • @derekb4977
    @derekb4977 8 місяців тому +25

    It's time this morning bring on Detranstion voices and Kellie jay keen 👍👍👍

    • @themikaylashow1987
      @themikaylashow1987 2 місяці тому

      KJK is the WORST transphobe

    • @derekb4977
      @derekb4977 2 місяці тому

      @@themikaylashow1987 there's no such thing as transphobia, Detrans Awareness now!

  • @Air51
    @Air51 8 місяців тому +21

    Finally....people makin sense!

  • @weshasawi
    @weshasawi 8 місяців тому +47

    Well everyone knew that! It was common sense, but people seemed to have lost that with the Woke movement! People seem to be more concerned with being politically correct!!

    • @CatsandJP
      @CatsandJP 8 місяців тому +3

      It has nothing to do with woke or politically correct…educate yourself on the whole subject and then you might understand…I was born a long time from yesterday and this goes back to human existence….

    • @SpareSomeChange8080
      @SpareSomeChange8080 8 місяців тому

      Agreed, the left have gone utterly insane. This nonsense needs to stop now. Anyone that is experimenting or permanently damaging children with puberty blockers or nonsense like that, deserves life in prison

    • @blackminnie
      @blackminnie 8 місяців тому

      ​@CatsJP It has always been there. However, it is now a social contagion especially for young people.

    • @catwoman2582
      @catwoman2582 8 місяців тому +1

      Also social media has a huge part to play aswell....

    • @betty-boo9821
      @betty-boo9821 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@CatsandJPRUBBISH

  • @katcankan7129
    @katcankan7129 8 місяців тому +5

    A four year report needed for what common sense should have told anyone. I guess sense is not so common afterall and practising medicine is just that, practising...on children in this case 😈

  • @catwoman2582
    @catwoman2582 8 місяців тому +5

    Vanessa needs to have a chat with herself...😮

  • @RedRoosterhighjump
    @RedRoosterhighjump 8 місяців тому +2

    Venessa needs to be off the television for the rest of her days. Her words are hurtful to children.

  • @lovedaybebe5881
    @lovedaybebe5881 8 місяців тому +6

    Litigation incoming , and quite rightly so! Remember the parents that were told they had no rights over their children ! I hope this report has an impact worldwide . Professionals have been too frightened to speak out about their concerns. Unsurprisingly with this ideology being rammed down society’s throat !

  • @BinnyBongBaron_AoE
    @BinnyBongBaron_AoE 8 місяців тому +4

    Yeah, nah, you folks are complicit.

    • @user-mk3rz6yu2h
      @user-mk3rz6yu2h 8 місяців тому

      wdym?

    • @nettietrees7238
      @nettietrees7238 7 місяців тому

      @@user-mk3rz6yu2h this morning has been pushing the ‘trans kid’ narrative for nearly 10 years. They have slandered anyone who disagrees. They had numerous trans kids on and their families, and not one whistleblower etc

  • @remoanersrknts6736
    @remoanersrknts6736 8 місяців тому +4

    Lots of money to be earned peddling puberty blockers is my guess.

  • @erikabruce1257
    @erikabruce1257 8 місяців тому +2

    When i was a teenager i didnt even know what i wanted for dinner, i have nothing against a person being who they are in their own home, but when it gets to a point where children are being pushed into talking about a subject that is so sexualised it's just wrong and a child may think one thing when they are young but even a week later their opinions can change, medical "professionals" cant just go giving out puberty blockers which actually have evidence to back it up that it has terrible side affects and problems in later life, its disgusting to put a child through so much also considering the fact that growing up is a confusing time as it is, i have a step daughter and it scares me the world she is being brought up in, and they claim if you say anything against it you're a bigot or transphobic which seem to be considered to be the worst you can be called these days but i would say being the one to fill them with puberty blockers and encourage a confused child to either cut off or add body parts for them to likey change their mind in a year for most parts to be irreversible is pretty sick in my opinion, there is plenty of young people who have came forward and spoken on this very issue who have transitioned young and either realised it's not what they really wanted and wished they could go back which is so sad 😢

  • @tomhazelden982
    @tomhazelden982 8 місяців тому +9

    Its shocking, the lack of research and knowledge around gender identity.
    There's a lot of backlash from people who dont understand it and are unwilling to listen.
    I really hope there's a future where it's treated with dignity and understanding.

  • @fayerosenthal2399
    @fayerosenthal2399 8 місяців тому +2

    I agree with URFUTURE above, the nhs have failed in far more than this.Ive been repeatedly failed by them as have millions of others.Unfort,the system was broken long ago.

  • @noregretcoyote1808
    @noregretcoyote1808 7 місяців тому +1

    This puts the NHS on the same level as Josef Mengele. Medical experimentation.

  • @tashaax1993xanimalloverx
    @tashaax1993xanimalloverx 8 місяців тому +2

    So are any of the doctors prescribing these drugs going to be struck off? Or any one just promoting it on here going to apologise and take it back ? They knew this all along....

  • @flocon.
    @flocon. 7 місяців тому +3

    Finally.

  • @ryanmessingham1178
    @ryanmessingham1178 8 місяців тому +22

    I do find it funny the words "speedily and hastily" are being used when the waiting lists are 5+ years long 😅🙄

    • @bakaar6423
      @bakaar6423 8 місяців тому +4

      The waiting list is not 5 years. Do you have any sources for that?

    • @ryanmessingham1178
      @ryanmessingham1178 8 місяців тому +9

      @bakaar6423 why are you saying it's not 😂 i know from experience not just plucked some random number out the sky

    • @MdJ197
      @MdJ197 8 місяців тому +9

      ⁠@@bakaar6423the source I have is ‘ a personal source ‘. I myself and other trans people that I personally know are having to wait 5~6 years and that’s only to start talking about it. Hormones won’t be given straight away so prob about another year on top of that thank you very much. There’s your evidence/ source 👍

    • @ZoeHills-eh9pq
      @ZoeHills-eh9pq 8 місяців тому

      🤔and why do you think that is?
      Maybe because the masses have been brainwashed into believing they should transition

    • @artless8
      @artless8 8 місяців тому +2

      That doesn't allow for those buying drugs on the Internet or going to private clinics.

  • @Cornish_Escape
    @Cornish_Escape 7 місяців тому +1

    Shut up Vanessa let Tom speak ffs

  • @kerttuelli
    @kerttuelli 8 місяців тому +6

    why is vanessa talking about this?

    • @gnoelalexmay
      @gnoelalexmay 7 місяців тому +1

      Exactly what I said while watching!

  • @gnoelalexmay
    @gnoelalexmay 7 місяців тому +1

    Read reporting from Michael Shellenberger.

  • @H-youtube7
    @H-youtube7 6 місяців тому

    Trends in medicine aren't necessarily an 'ideology'; an alternate belief system is, one that challenges already established beliefs, morality and biological facts.

  • @Eatsleeprun_rescuecats
    @Eatsleeprun_rescuecats 7 місяців тому +2

    If itv @ the BBC had been listening to us & platforming parents, graham lineman, Kelly jay keen, Julie bindle, Helen Joyce, Kathleen stock etc then we would not be here! The likes of Bullies like Vanessa feltz who looks like she’s bricking it in this interview.. & the like are at fault & complicit to thousands of kids being irreversibly harmed! Do some proper journalism!!

  • @LouiseBrooksBob
    @LouiseBrooksBob 7 місяців тому

    "Landmark" means I approve of it and want the viewers to see this as being set in stone. It seems to be a rather unobjective concept.

  • @Baddiebeebumbling
    @Baddiebeebumbling 8 місяців тому +4

    It’s important to point out that the whole point of puberty blockers (which are unsafe and risky-absolutely) was to give a gender dysphoric young person “breathing space” to really think about whether or not they want to go through transition or their natural puberty, obviously hoping that they’ed choose the latter because these places are not supportive of medical transitioning. To argue they are is a joke.
    It would be much safer and more sensible to just prescribe actual HRT (hormone replacement therapy), which are far less risky, to certain types of gender dysphoric young people AFTER the onset of puberty, such as homosexual males whose gender dysphosia persists after the onset of puberty for instance. As all studies show these don’t desist or detransition (if the dysphoria persists after puberty has begun.)

  • @maevey3
    @maevey3 7 місяців тому

    Why did this chap say it's negligible? He's contradicting himself.

    • @terrycote8879
      @terrycote8879 5 місяців тому +1

      I think he misspoke. He probably meant negligent. I blame the hosts for not making him clarify his remarks.

  • @robertfranklind3860
    @robertfranklind3860 7 місяців тому

    Its amazing that they have to read out the disclaimer even though what they are reporting on is that there is basically no evidence for any of this treatment working! They need to state that even though they are reporting on this that they are still on "team children can be trans too". Its honestly like a religion. They might as well start chanting "We believe in one g@d, the father almighty, maker of heaven and earth..."!

  • @LouiseBrooksBob
    @LouiseBrooksBob 7 місяців тому

    The "Good Morning View" is established by interviewing two social conservatives?

  • @SpareSomeChange8080
    @SpareSomeChange8080 8 місяців тому +1

    Lots of censored comments here isn't there?

  • @b.dangerfield6499
    @b.dangerfield6499 7 місяців тому

    The blame needs to be payed squarely at the feet of feminism.

  • @alexhaynes7220
    @alexhaynes7220 7 місяців тому +1

    There is only boys and girls and men and women

  • @alexhaynes7220
    @alexhaynes7220 7 місяців тому

    What on earth is the NHS and the doctors r doing

  • @abbiebrown2733
    @abbiebrown2733 8 місяців тому +4

    David Potts and Alison Hammond should do this morning. This would be brilliant 😘😘

  • @charlotterandall8738
    @charlotterandall8738 7 місяців тому

    Who didn't know??

  • @TerryPavlou
    @TerryPavlou 8 місяців тому +1

    Maybe get a few doctors on the show talking about

  • @PastaSauce.
    @PastaSauce. 8 місяців тому +12

    Why is there four people on the panel talking about this and not one is a doctor or trans person.

    • @derekb4977
      @derekb4977 8 місяців тому +6

      Detranstion awareness now!

    • @etmoiaussi899
      @etmoiaussi899 8 місяців тому +5

      We have heard more than enough from “trans” people and doctors in the past 5 years.

    • @derekb4977
      @derekb4977 7 місяців тому +1

      @@etmoiaussi899 yes let's campaign for Detrans voices on this morning and loose women.

  • @1Strawbz1
    @1Strawbz1 8 місяців тому +2

    ugh Tom 😍

  • @tenpin2387
    @tenpin2387 12 днів тому

    Vernessa is speaking very nerviouly

  • @viipaa
    @viipaa 7 місяців тому

    Is that Allison? Haven’t watch tv for 4 years. Ozempic must be working 😉

  • @anonysmith82
    @anonysmith82 6 місяців тому +2

    Its chemical castration of kids in many cases, you could easily argue its genital mutilation

  • @kozublue
    @kozublue 8 місяців тому +24

    Trans people exist. Whatever comment you're about to write, just remember that. Trans people exist and trans kids exist too. No matter what you think or feel, you can't change that fact, and trans kids deserve the right care. And that 'right care' is not going to be acting like they're mad or they don't exist.

    • @CatsandJP
      @CatsandJP 8 місяців тому +4

      Totally agree…..it is a personal and private choice.

    • @SpareSomeChange8080
      @SpareSomeChange8080 8 місяців тому +45

      Sterilisation and permanent body damage is not care

    • @kozublue
      @kozublue 8 місяців тому +4

      @@SpareSomeChange8080 It's not for everyone, but what about those people that it IS right for?

    • @SpareSomeChange8080
      @SpareSomeChange8080 8 місяців тому +28

      @@kozublue children can't consent, the end. If you want it done to yourself, you wait until your 18 years old

    • @kozublue
      @kozublue 8 місяців тому +2

      @@SpareSomeChange8080 What about other medical procedures that take place on children? Do you disagree with those because they 'can't consent'?

  • @yogadoodles
    @yogadoodles 8 місяців тому

    Well said

  • @mrhat50
    @mrhat50 7 місяців тому

    We all know this.

  • @alexhaynes7220
    @alexhaynes7220 7 місяців тому

    Not people and not person and not be

  • @thunderfeet
    @thunderfeet 7 місяців тому

    Vanessa kept talking, saying the same thing over and over again to waist the time. Why?

  • @Kris-v7p
    @Kris-v7p 7 місяців тому +1

    This morning sure has gone down hill

  • @alexhaynes7220
    @alexhaynes7220 7 місяців тому +1

    Is this blonde women ok

  • @BurnerBagel
    @BurnerBagel 2 місяці тому

    There's a lot of crazy on both sides. Props to those who support and accept trans lives whilst being critical enough to know when institutions are going too far. Honest discussion in good faith is the way to go! 🏳️‍🌈

    • @derekb4977
      @derekb4977 2 місяці тому

      @@BurnerBagel LGB without the T

    • @BurnerBagel
      @BurnerBagel 2 місяці тому

      @@derekb4977 I choose not to be hateful, sorry to disappoint

  • @wildzangmo5809
    @wildzangmo5809 8 місяців тому +10

    How about having some actual transgender people in the room when you're going to discuss transgender issues.

    • @user-mk3rz6yu2h
      @user-mk3rz6yu2h 8 місяців тому +2

      Why is it necessary? When discussing a factual article?

    • @user-mk3rz6yu2h
      @user-mk3rz6yu2h 8 місяців тому

      Why is it necessary? When discussing a factual article?

    • @nettietrees7238
      @nettietrees7238 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes every time I discuss a topic with someone, I make sure I have someone who was involved in that topic in the room with me at all times. 🤦‍♀

  • @dancox01
    @dancox01 8 місяців тому +6

    Vanessa said absolutely nothing

    • @bakaar6423
      @bakaar6423 8 місяців тому +3

      I'd suggest cleaning your ears

    • @85catnip
      @85catnip 8 місяців тому +1

      you mean she dominated that 7 minutes

  • @sarahserra1630
    @sarahserra1630 8 місяців тому +3

    Oh shut up Vanessa and let the doctor talk

  • @IreneDuncan-l5b
    @IreneDuncan-l5b 8 місяців тому

    At last.

  • @wonderwoman5528
    @wonderwoman5528 8 місяців тому +3

    So biased this morning. Didn’t show one different opinion from a trans teen who was suicidal and puberty blockers saved their life? I’m ashamed of you itv

    • @remoanersrknts6736
      @remoanersrknts6736 8 місяців тому +7

      "saved their lives" ... Nonsense! 😂

    • @merg-vh5sx
      @merg-vh5sx 8 місяців тому +5

      This is about research. Science, not feelings.

    • @nettietrees7238
      @nettietrees7238 7 місяців тому

      Have you read the report? Do we need a trans person in the room with us to discuss this report?

  • @davidwright4985
    @davidwright4985 8 місяців тому +3

    Where is the trans representation around the table, second time this week This Morning have spoke aboue Trans Issues without a Trans person discussing theae issues, do better.

  • @xem3051
    @xem3051 8 місяців тому +3

    Why do you not include actual transgender people in these debates?!!! It’s so strange. Let trans people express their feelings on these issues

    • @derekb4977
      @derekb4977 8 місяців тому +13

      Detrans should speak too then it's not a one way system.

    • @remoanersrknts6736
      @remoanersrknts6736 8 місяців тому

      .

    • @merg-vh5sx
      @merg-vh5sx 8 місяців тому +4

      Their lies don't work anymore. There's nothing for them to say.

    • @derekb4977
      @derekb4977 7 місяців тому +1

      @@merg-vh5sx yes that's why we need a whole programme to dedicate to Detrans voices.

    • @merg-vh5sx
      @merg-vh5sx 7 місяців тому

      @@derekb4977 I know what all the detrans voices have to say too. The men are all narcissistic and damaged and the women are all really really really damaged generally. I suppose maybe plenty of other people don't know how they feel, or what they've been through?
      If that's the case I support some airtime for detransitioners.

  • @Think54
    @Think54 8 місяців тому

    SORRY … is ANYONE seeing parallels with the VACCINE???!!!!

  • @bizarreisthenewblack
    @bizarreisthenewblack 8 місяців тому

    what are the bad things blockers cause then?

    • @hannahrobinson1728
      @hannahrobinson1728 8 місяців тому +5

      It’s not reversible

    • @bizarreisthenewblack
      @bizarreisthenewblack 8 місяців тому +1

      @@hannahrobinson1728 it is, all they do is delay puberty until someone stops taking them. they're still prescribed to cis children. do you have any evidence or source that shows they aren't reversible?

    • @user-mk3rz6yu2h
      @user-mk3rz6yu2h 8 місяців тому

      No one knows is the point. Theres simply not enough research in the context of gender questioning children to safely prescribe them on the scale they have been

    • @nettietrees7238
      @nettietrees7238 7 місяців тому

      The point of the report is that children were given drugs and no one monitored whether they were harmed by it. It’s called medical malpractice.

  • @jonathanwalker4613
    @jonathanwalker4613 6 місяців тому +1

    The funny thing is dermot but you where on support of all the wokeness funny how they distance themselves from there past comments pathetic