A look inside Peterborough's transitional housing program
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2024
- Municipalities across Ontario are working to find solutions to the homelessness crisis. CBC’s Lorenda Reddekopp went to Peterborough to learn more about its transitional housing program, where city staff have turned a former parking lot into space to house nearly 50 people in modular cabins.
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2 million a year for 50 modular cabins, no kitchen no bathrooms? the math is not mathing
One million to build the sheds and one million to the corrupt liberals
There is a kitchen and bathrooms in the service hub building on site. One meal a day is also provided to residents.
@@Damieno2you are so naive
They actually spent $1.4 million on the construction and setup for the modular cabins including a separate bathroom unit. The other million went towards $800k on site prep and $200k to renovate an existing city property in order to provide laundry facilities and a kitchenette.
Your right. It doesn't add up.2 million to maintain. Someone is making money on the side
I would have preferred a news segment explaining why the costs are so high.
They can't say too much that would make the Liberals look bad because their paychecks depend on it!
Me to INEXCUSABLE!
Oh you know there's many talking heads skimming off the top
The municipality and fire department keeping things up to code im sure are not cheap. They had to redesign sea cans for human occupancy, I know.
You were I could do that in our backyard quite easily but there Is a ton of red tape i'm sure.
So what about sober homeless people? You can't mix sober people with users no one will get away from addiction like that. You need a sober lot and a lot for users. Foundation it around nature. It doesn't always have to be right in the middle of a city.
I'm sorry but nobody should be expected to pay $560/month for a shed in a government owned project.
people need to get to work - it s called being an adult
Those should be free as transitional housing until real housing is built
Cheap. You need to share a bedroom, washroom, and kitchen AND pay more in the private market plus utilities with no free food. These have separate entrances, ... Plus the rent will actually be covered by taxpayers through refugee assistance, odsp, or welfare.
@@clarifyingquestions the rents have skyrocketed out of control! We couldn't find a 2 bedroom for under two grand a month, $5000 first and last.. a single parent can't afford that, seniors can't afford that, young people cant afford it. So maybe you're lucky enough to have an awesome job making 40 an hour, but most of us don't
@darkbrightnorth no there shouldn't people who put them selves in harm should have to deal with consequences one being you apartment is a shed
When Trailer Park boys is considered luxury living compared to this we are in trouble.
No idea how governments can spend 10x what should be required on these projects. 2.5 million for a concentration camp?
A concentration camp?? Seriously?
Stop trolling
@@ahhmm5381 Okay a little too far out there of a term, but they are essentially prison cells and clustered together like that in an out-of-the-way location, you are free to make your own inferences.
However, this is better than nothing so we really are at an impasse. Isn't a terrible solution better than no solution at all?
@@andrewmccoll1582 NOT a prison cell either, as residents can leave at will.
Scams, all of them.
Corruption
No kitchen or bathroom and have to pay over $500? That's ridiculous. Maybe $200 or $300 a month.
It should be 50 dollars
especially since taking them off the street already makes it thousands of dollars cheaper than just leaving them homeless and dealing with the public clean up and increased healthcare costs because being homeless makes you more at risk to illness and mental health issues, often the same issues that end up limiting their access to assistance are caused by homelessness, the government is being very slow at reversing a world wide policy of criminal negligence (or in some cases malice) to some specific illnesses and disabilities.
You probably spend more at Tim Hortons in a month. Have you got a better plan ?
@@rosieone5670Adding a bathroom and at least a cooktop? 🤷♀️
They have a kitchen and bathroom plus 1 mean a day in the main building right beside it and 24hr security and maintenance of the facilities. Could be a bit cheaper but this is a pilot program.
i counted 52 tiny home some 2.5 million divided be 52 is aprox 48k per tiny home... for something that doesnt have water or kitchen. someone defo made a lot of money making those. could probably build those for 10k max, our tax spenders are jokes
And they are making these people pay rent for a $3000 shed , $500 per month!
Plus the yearly running costs which I would love to know how that adds up. Is it mostly staff cost or are these admins raking in $200k salaries?
@@sharinglungs3226 , yes! This has been going on in the UK, their government admits that the money is being mismanaged and the so called support for these drugs addicts is a joke…. It’s all a scam!
@@sharinglungs3226 security and other services like porta potties/sanitation, electricity, etc. plus yea there's a bunch of staff since the community hub it's part of is available to them 24/7.
If only they were tiny homes as they have no facilities. They are little more than shacks. They could have just bought camper trailers for $30k or so apiece. Since there are no facilities one supposes those are communal somewhere and probably where some (most?) of that budget went.
And for some reason they fitted each one with a baseboard heater and an air conditioner rather than a heat pump so they've pretty much ensured they've got themselves the most expensive means of heating around. Even so, I can't even fathom how this is all costing another $2M annually to run.
the fact that some has to pay 560 doillars to live in a box is nuts
yeah that is approaching renting a room in a roommates situation. I'm not against charging a nominal fee but i thought it would be more like $100-200.
You have only high building and maintenance costs to thank for that.
It’s not fixed, it’s based on a percentage of their income
But their income is probably welfare. @@dickdavidson3616
It is not about the space. It is about getting those who are struggling with homelessness due to addiction or other circumstances, to effect some change in their lives, so that they will be able to move out. It is unique in that the occupants can slowly reduce their drug dependency, rather than have them being taken up by the health care system at 10X the cost, pushing out other patients who need operations and other care. If someone can turn around their life and still pay rent, that is a win for society. They are not living on the street and if they can access a rehab program without having to be housed in a specialized facility, which is also a savings for the health care system.
Over 2 million for storage sheds!? That’s crazy😮
On top of each person paying almost 600 per month. Something is definitely up
You can’t cook food ?!?!?! Expensive for a closet . Hope they will eventually get out of these office space .
Maybe there's a shared kitchen space? A microwave is a game changer. Certainty not the worse part of it.
560 a month is disgusting ,, not even a washroom
There’s no peace in that area if they allow them to use drugs. If you have neighbours that are mentally ill it’s not safe for others.
I'm unsafe living near people in an apartment building who supposedly aren't mentally ill including the Superintendent
homeless paying $500??? jesus. what is the cost going into, theyre paying the salaries of the on-site staff watching them take drugs....
Not homeless paying it is the tax payer.
Drug consumption is allowed, but no violence policy. It sounds contradictory. 550 a month sound high for a homeless person.
Welfare, odsp, migrant/refugee assistance. All free through taxpayers.
Didn’t they say the rent was based on income?
How is it contradictory? You know it's possible to do drugs and be peaceful, right? You also understand that it's possible to be violent while sober? Or is that caricature burned so deeply into your mind after years of being propagandized that you cannot distinguish the two?
Meanwhile in reality, enabling drug abuse isn't working @@user-wg2vw3mz1v
@@user-wg2vw3mz1v Thank you! Now, if we could get that message across to those who still think "Reefer Madness" is a documentary.
Cheers from Peterborough
A room... Didn't see any showers, washrooms, kitchens...?
There were non
A room that's warm in the winter & cool in the summer, with a bed off the ground.....a step up from the tent that many called home - a tent with no showers, washrooms, kitchens, fridges or locks. I'd say this is a good start for those residents of Peterborough.
There's a lot of money in homelessness. It'll never go away.
Canadian Government should help their own ppl before helping other in another Country
The problem is that if the us loses reserve currency there will be no money because we have allowed all of it to go to our ruling class
Agreed. We just flushed $123 million down the drain in Haiti 3 weeks ago. I'd rather take our people off the streets. Even if the solution has issues at least it's trying something new
This is a glorified jail cell. Why not just build more shelters. Those things should be free to the public so no one sleeps on the streets.
There is too much violence from mental illness and drug abuse in the shelters… that’s why many people sleep on the streets. These people are almost beyond help, they are run by their addiction.
@@annetoronto5474 I disagree. It all starts with mental illness which I feel the government health system should be addressing. When a person's trauma, mental illness isn't being helped then one may turn to drugs to relieve the pain, hence addiction. The cost of addiction ends with homelessness. Get to the root - mental illness.
@@CharCanuck14 Trudeau government making drugs legal and accessible doesn’t help, especially since the root to mental illness is stress, and stress is often caused by financial problems. Trudeau government is to blame for a lot of societal problems, lack of healthcare, housing shortages, soft on crime, access to drugs instead of help.
@@annetoronto5474 Can't fully agree with you. The legalization & accessibility of cannabis has nothing to do with the issues we're talking about. I DO fully agree with you about the lack of healthcare.....especially mental health care. I speak of this through experience as I had/have mental health issues as well as being a former opioid addict who experienced homelessness twice. My daughter is a psychiatric nurse who sees this lack of health care all the time. BTW.....I'm a retired RN, so those 3 issues could happen to any of us.
I'm glad that we're talking about this Anne....thank you for your comments.
More than 500 bucks for a tin can without sanitary? A slightly improved version of four penny coffins! Since when lesser than a prison cell is considered as a house? While in some countries, there is simply no homelessness due to home as a basic right, here, we start extorting even homeless people…
A storage room without a shower,kitchen etc is now consider a home in canada.
How do homeless people even afford $500 a month?
Homeless doesn't necessarily mean unemployed.
Just the security, where your things don't get stolen is probably worth a decent amount.
@@ahhmm5381they don't even own $500 worth of stuff
really? there's SOO MANY homeless people who work full time jobs these days. People who live in their cars for instance and shower in gyms. It's what replaced the dead "middle class" known as the working poor.
Welfare payments. Won't have much to live on.
Welfare so tax payer.
Where are the churches in all of this..!?!? Peterborough has 50-60 churches PAYING NO TAXES on behemoth buildings, that are sitting on some of the most prime real-estate in the city..! Taxing the churches would MORE than cover the costs associated with these micro homes! I mean,...come on,...isn't this why we DON'T tax churches, because they're supposed to be helping the impoverished?
2.5 mill per year to operate? probably 2 mill for middle men 😊
Would be cheaper to operate a condo building... 😅
My condo building probably operate less than 2.5m... 😅
The city gets rent.
Is this really housing first when there are no washroom/bathing and cooking facilities in unit? Can that even be something you charge money for as a "rental" this sets the standard for the landlords otherwise they'll likely follow suit. I'm glad it's private and it's warm and has windows but you can buy a used seacan for $500 online so basically with less than a month's rent they could purchase one of these outright. Can we please do better and treat people like humans instead of providing coffins with a view
Even a small boat..
It's a shame, it look likes a shanty town or a "favela" in Brazil, Canada can't allow it those people must have proper housing.
Then they should quit drugs and get a job.
I guess my main question is, how many people could you fit on this land by building a couple of lowrise with mainly bachelor sized apartments? everyone could have their own washroom, kitchenette, still pay their little 500 dollars a month and be actually housed. With two ten floor low rises im sure you could triple the amount of folks being helped here, and give them a better quality of life.
The city needs the money to build it from the Conservative provincial government and the Liberal federal governments who only cater to the most wealthy. Peterborough already needs 122 million for upkeep and repairs of current social housing.
They should really provide a supervised communal kitchen and bathroom space nearby for the same price or else reduce the rent to $200/month.
Taxpayers are paying rent anyways thru welfare, odsp, mugrant/refugee programs.
It does have that... Still, they're asking too much money anyways. These people are straight off the streets! Should be a few months of FREE rent followed by either something like $300 ($10 / day) rent, or if you don't have a job yet, perhaps you are required to do some service work within the little community, say 1 - 2 hours each day, to pull your weight (would help to slowly get rid of the "staff" of this place, who could then move on to help set up the NEXT tiny-homes community, because lord knows we need a lot more of these if we're to even half-way solve our homelessness issues).
why noboby asked about how they use toilet or even wash hands.
Probably something communal
no, they are not homes... they are shipping containers
Do those buildings have NO INSULATION???
i was sure a "house" included a way to cook, crap and shower.. wtf. where is the actual affordable housing? thats BS!
$566 a month?!?!
$500 is too much
One woman said she was already a fentanyl addict BEFORE she became homeless. Yet drug use is allowed here. Does no one see the problem? Only non-druggies should be getting these homes! Then they would be an incentive to get clean. There ARE people with no addictions or mental health problems who wind up on the street, due to catastrophic financial reverses. Help them first, because with a bit of help, they'll quickly get back on their feet & age out of the system. 👍🏻
Most homeless people are alcoholics... You gonna ban alcohol too?
$500/mo. To live in a shed ?!?
Come on Canada, we can do better than that.
Why doesn’t the Federal Govt. buy hotels, 1 in each queen city and let the homeless live there.
It would be far better than a shed and probably cheaper...
2 mil, so 40 k a year per unit. Plus what they pay. Doesnt seem very efficient. I know tiny houses are trendy. But are they really more efficient then an apartment building. Or a motel style building.
Nope
No - but trailer type rvs would have been cheaper than this- with the possibility of bathroom. I don’t understand why they spent this much - they could have double the units buying fully equipment 16-18 foot trailers with furniture incorporated…
@@christinaserpa3306 Or retrofitted a bunch of old shipping containers.
Raw cost of materials is mild, most of the cost is wrapped up in labour and bureaucracy.
Housing First is the way to go.
You're setting a great example Peterborough.
How? This project is a waste of money. These people need real help!
@@annetoronto5474 Yes, starting with housing.
What do you propose?
@@1964mcqueen , they need to get these drugs out of our country, communities, and get these people rehab.
@@annetoronto5474 rehab costs WAYY more than these days, although I agree that should be the ultimate goal. However "get them out of the country" is literally never going to happen. That's simply unrealistic. The ONLY way we're going to actually combat the problem is to decriminalize drugs, and produce them ourselves and make sure that addicts are taking clean medical grade stuff from doctors who can convince them to get help instead of the dirty as hell street stuff that's been cut and laced with god knows what. The Mexican cartels buy the precursor drugs from Chinese drug synthesizers and then cook it in the jungle and smuggle it up into the US and here. There's only 1 way to combat that and it's to offer them a cleaner product and cut them out entirely. ONLY THEN will we be able to convince addicts to get into treatment, which btw is SORELY lacking. We need *significantly* more treatment and addiction centers before that would be possible too.
@@tinadixon8186 OK, so you would have them stay in their tents until we build enough housing to clear up the 15 year wait-list, to put them in public housing that has none of the supports, nor the security that these transitional units have.
Did you even listen to the video?
$500.+ a month rent!!! Who is getting the profits??? Insane!!!
All this effort to help individual's get on their feet again, is just not enough.
Where is the counseling rather than allowing drug use?
1:49 "There's a strict no-violence policy"
Yes, there's a no-violence policy outside the encampment too. It's called the law.
I bet they will eventually have a strict no murder policy too, after the firsg murder.😂
$500 no bathroom lol
No overnight visitors WTF?!!!
This is NOT an unambiguous success story- folk are *paying hundreds* per month to be‘housed’ in garden sheds. There are much better & more dignified tiny home community models out there. Good grief. A harm reduction approach is laudable but these units are less space than a horse would be stabled in. Canada must do better than this.
Better than the streets. They are garden sheds with heating, AC, a pantry, a bed, and locked door. Clearly somebody took the time to figure out the most important needs for the homeless: security for self and essential possessions, protection from extreme temperatures, sleep, and sustenance.
@@user-wg2vw3mz1v You're right ~ this wasn't brought together overnight. A lot of time & thought was put into it. Same with our harm reduction centre. I see our city as actively caring for people without housing & those with addiction issues. Now, if our government would properly deal with the mental health issues, which are usually the basis of addiction that leads to homelessness.
That rent is hilariously ridiculous for a literal shed.
Is there any way to donate to this program?
@deadheat LOL They are culling us You forget history >
You already are paying for this with taxes!
The program has been funded by the government, but Elizabeth Fry runs it and does good advocacy work in Peterborough if you’re interested in donating to them. One City Peterborough does good stuff too.
Why?
@@Damieno2liar
Almost 600 dollars to live in a shed, that's more than any of the first several places I lived when I first moved out on my own. I counted 50 sheds. If it cost two million to build this crap, that's 40,000 per shed, oh, sorry, I mean "modular cabin." This is both inhumane, and a massive scam.
Scam yes inhumane no they chose drugs over housing.
It costs $48000 to build but what is way worse is that it costs $40000 / year to maintain. It makes no sense.
The Federal Govt. should be purchasing hotels, 1 in each queen city and the Provincial Govt. should be staffing it. People having to live alone in a shed isn’t a very good solution. At least in a hotel you could have a room on each floor with a doctor, nurses and trained professionals. Whats happening now is a bad joke and the homeless and tax payers are the punchline.
Why should the tax payer buy hotels to support junkies?
Im from Peterborough, and these "homes" are awful for our city. Only drug users use them and they actively use drugs downtown and in these "camps" which put the public at risk. These should NOT be allowed in ANY city.
The gullibility of most y’all with your comments is staggering. Wake up. Money is being proffered from these programs for homeless. Do the math literary
Lots of bleading hearts.
Given that Ontario works only gives people 733$ a month for a singular person, 500$ is way too much to be charging people.
560 a month for a shed. Can we just remove everyone in government and restart this is a nightmare 🙄🙄🙄
This is an internment camp
Yet people in jail in prison get to live for free… life is a joke🤦🏻♂️
that math aint mathin. I work in an actual low income building in BC and tenants here pay $375. Its a studio apartment with a bathroom that has a shower. Laundry is done in a common area laundry room. They used old C-Cans to frame the rooms. Not only is this quick & cheap. It would take way longer for any fire damage to spread.
I think the liberal minister for housing should spend 2 weeks living in one of those little homes.It would give him a good insight and what's just going on.
😅
I pay a little over what she pays for an actual apartment in small town Alberta. This is insane.
The pallet homes have been set up in Lower Sackville Nova Scotia just outside of Halifax. The tent encampment in the community and Halifax were dismantled and some people went to shelters and some were chosen to go into the pallet homes. This just come about last week, residents in the area are not happy they set this up without their approval, it’s in a former church parking lot and is monitored 24-7 also fenced in. I’m hopeful it works out for everyone.
They gonna have us living in these in 5 years saying “this is the new affordable housing we’ve made for the youth and no you can’t own a car”
The need is so overwhelming, every little bit that can be made available is imperative. There needs to be things like this as housing first, to get people secure enough to treat addiction and homelessness transitioning (also wondering if there’s onsite bath and kitchen?) There needs to also be units for very low wages and pensioners and disabled where rents are outrageous. Every city desperately needs several neighborhoods to be at least partly set aside for low income housing.
There’s similar ones in Kitchener
I'm sorry 500 a MONTH? JESUS, that's too much for those.
Lies and lies upon jokes and jokes.
Unreal.
❤❤❤❤❤❤ wonderful , thanks for The Mayor and all the support from so many fabulous people
And the clients themselves for helping themselves climb out of there struggles and achieve their goals and aspirations.
Well this is our Canada you used to be able to pay $550 for mortgage and now you pay $550 and you get a little small shed that you can buy at your local hardware store for five grand.
What a dystopian way to live...
Crackshacks aren't the solution. Now the junkies are "out of sight, out of mind".
Great idea, tiny home communities + specific services to assist homeless people get back on their feet & join society as valuable & productive members. Hope these type of projects continue to grow & spread through out Canada.
It's about ripping off the tax payers not helping anybody. How is supporting drug use helping anybody?
This is what up 30% of Canadian housing will look like after the social credit score system is established.
When did outhouses become legal again? Turdeau spends 10 million on a garage/shed and this is the best he can do for the homeless who he put into this situation. Do they have an elevator?
And here we are Canada’s official shanty slums … what the hell is going on 😵💫
Finally some creative thinking beyond the rivers of words by politicians.
$40000 per year per person to provide a small cabin ? That is $3333/month to rent that cabin ? It makes no sense.
cool, but addressing the symptom instead of the cause. make housing and rent cheaper and there will be less homeless people.
Do think this is an idea worth exploring. Agree with other comments that the price seems excessive in both cost to build and rent charged. Also curious why they can skirt the Landlord tenant act. Why can't landlords have similar restrictions when they rent to such individuals? I can be long and arduous to evict a violent/problematic tenant. I have experienced it as a landlord. My other tenants were threatening to leave, but I had to follow the law. I got lucky and he ended up not dragging it out in the tribunals. Still owes back rent.
It's a good idea but seems expensive. Also can we really call it a community without a plant or greenspace in sight. No benches, patios etc.... Not a very welcoming community... Someone with a greenhouse should offer to sponsor some plants and a community garden or something
Right at the end they show the big empty space behind the reporter. How about tiny houses there?
The worst thing about these setups is the one door and not one window to jump out...more worried about someone getting in. Why not have a roof emergency exit and not one setup for someone who's handicap. What a waste of money.
ALL cities should do this!
Build shantytowns.
@@shauncameron8390 better than whats there now...
$3333/month on top of the initial cost to build them ? 2 million per year / 50 cabins / 12 months = $3333/month
Way too much “rent” for what they’re getting. A small,prison-like room. Even a prison room has a toilet, and water. Yes, not surprised the mayor likes this. It’s a good money-maker. It’s great getting people off the streets, no question, but, at least give them a toilet and shower, microwave or counter-top element you can plug, in so they can make a meal. and, less metal grating on the windows? You need to show some trust in these people.
Welcome to the homeless industrial complex. The tiny "homes" are the most expensive garden sheds in Canada. The costs associated with providing housing and services to the residents are mind blowing. Of course, the agencies receiving funding are not concerned about costs and the outcomes of the individuals. The agencies receiving funding are concerned about ensuring their existence and the continue employment of their employees. The agencies are not interested in eliminating homeless because this would put them out of business.
Hamilton prefers parking lots over people living in tents.
It's better than nothing, but holy crap they could had raised the bar a little more.
This messed up thats not cool it's missing a few things to be able even have it called liveable
If government can't provide appropriate and enough house then why are still dumping unlimited people in the country?
$560 and you have no kitchenette or toilet and sink?
Hello commenters,
Just a reminder that the segment said that rent is “geared to income,” which likely means some pay more and some pay less. For example, someone on Ontario Works would be receiving $733/month, but someone on ODSP would be getting $1,308. If the interviewee is receiving ODSP (which I think is likely), and it is the amount I put forth, then $560/month for rent is ~%43 of her income. For someone on OW, %43 is $315. It would also be different for people on pensions.
And although their homes only have simple amenities (heater, air conditioner, lighting, electricity; no toilet, shower, or kitchen), they are attached to a community centre with those missing amenities. Along with volunteers to assist them.
Now, I agree that %43 is a bit higher than ideal. If %30 is the target point to pay monthly for affordable housing within the housing market, then it’s sad that we can’t even manage that target for those who are really struggling. But in a market in which people are paying %60 of their earnings on rent, I’ll take it.
okay , so no affordable housing still , seriously doesn't the city spend more every time an encampment is removed
crazy crazy
This is not the success story this people think it is. If it was free then maybe, but in this case, it is a very poor policy to "help" people in transition.
My friend is looking for a roommate in his 2 bedroom apartment for 525$/mo. This is in Saskatoon. At the very least this initiative gets some of the homeless a shelter, but WTF? Where's The Funds?
compared to living outdoors in winter, I am sure the homeless is much safer here. It's certainly better than nothing. I see the suffering of a young man on the streets on Chemong Rd near Wendy's often and I hope he gets one of these so he can be safe and maybe make some friends. I help him with little I have on my pension. I pray for him everyday.
I paid 700 a month for a 2 bedroom basement with kitchen bathroom living room...wasnt anything fancy but downtown toronto was a 5 minute streetcar ride away...I would NEVER pay nearly 600 bucks for a shed. No bathrooms or kitchens?! wtf?!?! Im from Peterborough and I know I could definitely find a one bedroom or studio with all amenities included for 500 a month, heck, even a bedroom with shared kitchen bathroom is better than whatever scam theyre promoting here. I thought they were going to say it was free....WOW! Talk about taking advantage of people at their lowest.
1.3 mil vacant homes across Canada (most of which are corporate owned), more than enough to house everybody
Tiny prisons row by row. What's next?
ze bugs?
This is amazing! A Great program that I hope gets more funding and is adopted by more governments
Your so naive
At $3333/month ?
500 a month to rent this is wild considering the mortgage for my house i bought 3 years ago is 450 per month and its a house.
Atleast actual prison cells have toilets.
Can someone explain to me how they spent 2million on 50 sheds, land less then 1.3acre that they own, and a were house with public bathrooms and a kitchen. Secondly 2 million for operation cost doesnt make any since.
So a little math they spent $36,000 on each shed and doesn't give you a washroom or kitchen. They could of got the sheds for 10k and that would include small bathroom with shower and small kitchen, bed and couch area with a tv. And operation cost shouldn't be more then $600,000 a year that would give you 15 workers and $192,000 for maintenance equipment, repairs and another possible experience.
Your videos always make my day. Keep shining!
I drive a winter warming bus for a semi-large city. We need this implemented for next winter. The human cost of homelessness is staggering. Many stereotypically associate drug addiction with the crisis, and I can tell you that they would be dead wrong. I see the numbers first hand from a personal level.
Let's discuss the real issue, Affordable housing for people that make minimum wage. In the city I live in, there seams to be one company that owns over 80% of the rental housing. Compiled with the abolishment of rent control, (we all said it would be a disaster), we seem to have normalized homelessness in a seasonal climate.
This is not California, Florida, or Arizona. A tent is only functionable 6 months of the year.