@@TheAnnoyingBoss Auto Ordnance makes M1 Carbines, so PSA wouldn't make them because it's not worth it. There's already reproductions in the market. SKS there's still a lot of surplus and even for the Kars. So they wouldn't unless that surplus dries up.
I was USAF Security Police back in the 80s. Except for the birdcage flash suppressor, that looks just like my old issued M-16. Mine had the 3-prong flash suppressor.
I was in USAF basic training at Lackland AFB in 1969. The M16 rifle I practiced the manual of arms had a 5000 range serial number! Now that I remember it that's cool!
We definitely still had some early M16s in the Air Force well into the late 90s. At least some bases starting setting aside the earliest rifles for displays & museums. 🤠
PSA has been doing good things for years. Along the way they have caught hate like any company. People need to support them. Because of things like this and many other reasons. The companies owner has a very good stance on 2A and firearms in general.
PSA is great of a company that exists for a reason other than money. Because they put freedom first they are raking in the $$$$ which they are putting back into the mission of spreading freedom.
I've been waiting for these H&R M16A1s to restock. I have the H&R M16A2, and really enjoy shooting it. The long barreled and full stock Ars are so much smoother and comfortable shooting when compared to short barreled collapsible stock M4 style rifles.
That and the compartment in the back of the stock is amazing I put all kinds of s*** in mine ,barrel cleaning kit one bullet toilet paper ,Allen keys, extractor
I was at Basic Training and Infantry School at Ft. Benning in the Summer of 1986. I had a General Motors Hydramatic Division lower, Anniston Arsenal markings on the lowers from 1983-86 because Ft. Benning is a Basic Training and Home of the Infantry at that time. Barrels and components would get worn out and have to be replaced. From my experience there were many guys who couldn't shoot. They were called "Jerry's Kids" or the "Bolo Turtles". I can see why the Army has spent money on fixing rifles and wasting ammo.
In about 2010, my agency received a bunch of Colt M16 SP1’s that were issued to us (troopers). We could only shoot 55 grain ammo because of the barrel twist rate (which I think was 12:1). They had the three prong flash hiders, no forward assist, and carry handle. What I liked most about them was the greenish gray finish. They were extremely accurate and we shot about 2000+ rounds without cleaning them that week without malfunctioning. Excellent rifles and I wish I could’ve bought mine when I retired…technically they were still property of the US Government.
My agency had the old A1s also. Btw, it's 1 in 12, not 12 to 1. They were accurate enough, but it was much easier to mount optics on the carbines as well as secure the carbines in the vehicles. The old A1s were just too tall for an Explorer and specially for the Taurus. Just fine with Expeditions and Vics.
@@JD-tn5lz I couldn’t remember the twist rating exactly and too lazy to look it up…lol. Thanks for correcting that. We never had the Taurus or Explorer. We were still running CV’s with 200k+ miles on them. Now they all have Tahoes I see.
Back in 1989, we had M-16 A1s at Ft. Leonard Wood, MO when I was in Basic. The finish was almost all stripped off due to excessive cleaning enforced by Dril Sergeants. The rifles qwere really loose. The rifle I uses had the triangle grips. We had the claning kit compartment as well. The A-1s we had at my Guard unit had the cleaning kit compartment in the stock. I like the A-1 sights much better than the A-2 sights. Who really needs the elevation knob under the Widage knob. Elevation was just adjusted on the ront sight on the A-1. We were good out to 350yds with the A-1.
The knob under the rear sight is range, not elevation. The front sight is used for zeroing elevation on any M16 or M4. The range knob is to compensate for distance to the target after the sights have been zeroed, which may be overly-complicated for a combat rifle, depending on who you ask.
On A1 the rear was strictly windage and front was strictly elevation, except for the "L" flip. We (USMC infantry) never used either after zeroing and quals. They were there and ignored. No issue with them being on the rifles. We didn't even mess with the flip-up "L." We loved the A2 sights, though we ignored their adjustments also. Just having them and knowing that we had a rifle that we could take to 800 if we had to was a real morale boost. Reference this A1 knockoff, whatever. I didn't know anyone back in the Fleet who missed the A1 after we got the A2. We missed the full-auto, but we absolutely loved the greater accuracy of the A2 at distance and when you held an A2, you knew you had a weapon...not so much with an A1. @@KevinJames-yg9eu
@@Localjadedealer probably. I can't think of many cases where a 50m wouldn't be good enough for reaching out, especially on a 20in barrel. If they are that far out just use the medium mg or M2.
i live in a rural area and these retro rifles but with an optic make far more sense in my area if you're not using a 308. the ability to strap a light weight AR on your shoulder that can easily make a 500-600 yard shot and then be able to walk with it for miles is incredibly valuable for me
I made an XM177 clone out of an A1 Colt kit I had and used a PSA H&R XM177 government marked lower. Its 99% correct now thanks to PSA for making this stuff available. I will be buying an H&R government marked M16 E1 lower for another clone I have. I have always loved the carry handle ARs and the simplicity of them and have had Colt SP1 s and carbine SP1s as well and wished I had kept them. When I had them they weren't all that collectable and priced around $600.00 and you could find them everywhere.
I made a 603 (XM16E1) clone. Used all original M16A1 parts and furniture and a No Dak Spud XM16E1 semi auto receiver. 25 years ago No Dak Spud was doing lots of retro lowers.
Tim, by the way you were glowing through this post, I have no doubt how much these mean to you. Your passion, mix of tech, history and unity/fun factor are why MAC is my fav channel. Thank you so much and keep up the fantastic work!!!
I carried an M16A1 in the US Army of the 1980s. Although I was never in combat, I found it to be rugged and reliable during field training and qualifications; mine never jammed on me at all. I too enjoy the retro style, and Windham Weaponry came up with the perfect combination for me in their “Government Model A1” version. As a lefty I need at least the A2 style brass deflector, and the Windham is basically a semiautomatic-only A1 except for that, the A2 stock (which I prefer as a bit sturdier), the A2 front sight, and the A2 profile barrel with the 1:7” twist, plus the M4 feed ramp. It has the A1 receiver (except for the feed ramp and the brass deflector), A1 rear sight, A1 forward assist, A1 hand guards, A1 pistol grip, and A1 flash hider. To me it has the classy old school look and feel but with more modern performance features. They can be had brand new for under a grand, and they are extremely well made; with my Brownells “Retro” 4X carry handle optic it is an absolute tack driver. Another option out there for us retro AR fans; it is my lone AR and I have no desire for any other.
I bought one of the m16a1 parts kit and one of the PSA H&R m16a1 lowers After taking light sand paper and steel wool to the lower to put fake wear on the high spots it ended up matching the upper really well. Their lowers for the a1 are perfect for the parts kits that have been coming in
@VintageRenewed: Howdy! Hey, tell me what source you have for recent parts kits? I’m kicking myself for not picking up a few kits when they were available.
They are really nice rifles, the M16A1 have a red bumper on the buffer. All Vietnam M16A1's had a red bumper on the buffers, Colt retro's had a yellow bumper on their buffer. Mike from Nodak Spud and CEO of H&R said at a previous shot show that the majority of M16A1's produced under contract for the war bye H&R were black anodized, very few gray one's were produced by H&R. But yeah they are 99.5 % period correct for the H&R rifles. Very sweet. Blessings
The first AR I ever bought was a Colt modeled mostly after the A1 in 1978. But lacked the forward assist and fence around the mag release. Did have birdcage flashhider and trapdoor butstock..
15:30 On the subject of the blem options. I got one of the stripped carry handle A2 uppers that was a blem and externally it was perfect. What I did notice was that about half of the inside where the bolt carrier rides did not get anodized all the way. Not really a big deal since it would be succinctly covered in oil, grease, and carbon. So if I had to guess what blem means, it's probably imperfect anodization
Been looking at their website for awhile.. Probably going to put together a Blood Diamond carbine clone, once my ATF permission slip arrives. Keep us updated on any new H&R stuff you get. Also Brownells licensed the Colt name on all their retro 4x carry handle scopes
Dude, just wait a little longer. PSA just announced their new Blood Diamond "AR pistol" along with the DOE SMG, Colt LMG, and Fallout: New Vegas' Service Rifle
I got the H&R 654 slick slide. They only made one or two batches of it it’s not on their website anymore but it’s absolutely fantastic. Enjoy the no forward assist and no brass deflector very slender and sleek. No malfunctions after a year. If you’re debating on any of these models go for it!
The carry handle/rear sight module can be affixed to the flat top uppers. I did it to one and added a triangular hand-guard to make an early model clone AR-15
I was stoked about Brownells bringing back all those old versions of the AR15/10, and was disappointed to see that they are pretty much done with that. Glad to see someone is picking up the slack and going ahead with retro guns. As much as we all love the modern railed M4 style guns, most of us old farts got into AR's because of these older guns. They have personality, style. Challenges to overcome, yes...but so much flavor.
I'm a sucker for the return of retro designs, especially an A1 like this! Hope to see more of this in the future. In handguns too - I'd be thrilled if S&W relaunched a few of their third-gen semi autos.
@@Militaryarmschannel Agreed 100%. Especially given my fondness for metal-framed semi-autos with no rails or optics cuts. Sometimes having the option to keep smooth, classic aesthetics intact is all I want.
I was a marine, had an a1 in basic training, and a2 at my first duty station. Love them both (look of these firearms are amazing). Thanks for making the video.
The original slicksides are the best in my opinion. Full length, light weight, and barely stabilized 55 grain pills going at 3000+ fps. And they are the coolest looking too.
I got my H&R M16A1 a couple months ago. It’s been a great rifle. It’s what I carried in ROTC and during active duty in the 1980s. Always regretted not picking up an SP1 in the 80’s. May pick up an H&R A2 since I was issued one in the late 80’s before I separated from service
The very last C-1/56 ADA Ft. Bliss, Texas for Basic Training (1990) and we trained with the A-1. Then met the A-2 in AIT. Fantastic rifle and i cant wait to get my hands on this one. Good on ya, PSA!
Had a hydromatic in basic at Fort Dix in 1987, went to the reserve unit and was issued an hra and it had never been used before. I then went to an air force reserve unit and qualified on one of the original air force colts. No forward assist. One of our sergeants worked at Colt and he said he probally assembled it. I do have an hra m1 from the cmp.
H & R does have the 20 rd waffle mags and the non serrated chrome BCGs also. I've purchased 4 of these rifles so far in different configurations. I love,love,love em. There's so many more I'm hoping to acquire in the future.
I just got my M16A1 upper from PSA and it is so much fun to shoot. Have my Flow 556k on it and its insanely quiet at ear for what it is. It was sold out in 12 hours, so glad I snagged one.
On my 2 m16a1 transferable 9 million serial # range. I put the Geissele 11.5 URGI upper, a suppressor, B5 stock and a surefire light. Full auto goodness and fairly light. I use the uppers to keep the original upper in great shape.
I bought a slickside 14.7" from PSA. Its a great little rifle, only a couple hundred rounds through it so far but I like it. 6 pounds 3 ounces with a loaded 20 round magazine.
Ahh, Worlds of Fun. In my 60's now and I remember when they opened up. We were there the first week. My dad worked at Santa Fe and we got group tickets. Later in life my wife worked for Bendix King/Allied Signal/Honeywell and we used to take our boys several times a summer. Now, its priced so high and we are older now and those types of places just don't appeal. But, I can tell you what does, firearms. I absolutely love my AR15A1 ri8fles. Not a fan of the AK types. Even older as I am, poorer eyesight and all, I can still drill super tight groups on my 150 yard range on our property. Great video as always. I think I may try to convince my wife of one of these H&R clones. Our anniversary is coming up in May, might have to drop a few hints. UA-cam playing their games again, I had to click the subscribe button all over again. Catch ya in the next video.
Just bought a Springfield SA16A2 today. Btw, they apparently fixed the weak spring in the hand guard ring. While you can force the hand guards back towards the reciever, it takes both hands with the butt on the floor. The fit on the hand guards is also very good and the ring holds them in place VERY firmly. No rattles, nothing feels loose or pops. So it seems they fixed the new builds. 👍 Looks just like the M16a2 I carried in the Army 1980s. Runs m193 ball 55gr flawlessly.
Nodak Spud was meticulous when it came to prepping their uppers and lowers for anodizing in the XM gray. My understanding is the gray is less forgiving than black with regards to getting an even finish.
I like the m16 style ars, my ar is an a2 replica. I don’t recommend it for most people but for me the a2 style is perfect, at 6ft tall it fits me better than the shorter barrel versions.
I have learned that PSA Blems are an interesting thing, I bought a AK Blem and had it shipped to a pawn shop I deal with at times, the guy I was dealing with said that they had a game for PSA firearms, and it is to find the blem on the blems as they also could not find the issues at all. It's like they just take a random rifle out and call it a blem or something.
I just bought a H&R Dissipator last week. Lovely gun...my first shots were a bit high and right but then I was able to adjust the more I shot it. All in all, I was more accurate with this classic beast than with other ARs, even the overpriced MR 556 with G3 sights. All you need is a two-position rear sight, no redundant forward assist, no fencing around the mag release button and those beautiful triangle handguards. Oh, and I didn't have one malfunction so far.
I've been a huge AK guy the last 15 years and finally got my first AR and it's this H&R M16A1. Starting near the roots of the AR platform is so fun. It's my new favorite gun and shoots like a dream! Quality is amazing on these guns and definitely scratches the retro itch. Highly recommend!
I bought a H&R colt 635 lower to put with my original 635 parts kit. I wish they offered more of the colt blue/gray, because the black is too dark and the gray is too light. However function wise its great.
I used an M16a1 from '84 to '88 . The ones we used were reconditioned Vietnam War weapons..I liked the automatic capability but as a leftie you better hope the range had brass deflectors on hand.
Worlds of fun,,,,I've been there,,,they had the ""Screem Roller""back then,& in basic training in Fort Knox,my M-16,was a GM ,manufactured, shot "EXPERT" with it,,only soldier in my squad that shot Expert. Soo,you must be from the Kansas city area.
I remember shooting one back in the early 80s when I was getting my badge in the boy scouts. Can't remember the range we was at but somewhere in indiana and the reserves was there practicing too and they let our troop shoot one.. we all had a smile from ear to ear.
How was it zeroing? I've seen a few vids etc. of owners complaining about canted FSBs and the aperture having to be way over to one side or the other. I guess it just the luck of the draw, I'd hope PSA would correct this for you with no issues. I' d really like an A1 20" or a 653.
Good video as always. That is interesting what you said about a Brownells rifle having to move windage all the way to one side. I bought an A1 upper from them and had to move windage all the way to one side, but able to get it zeroed.
That's what I carried in basic and ait. Funny thing when I was in the 25th id in the 80s there was a gun shop outside post. I bought a colt ar15 sporter 2, Looked like a a2 back when you could get thatbstuff there. I kept in the arms room. When I would pull it out on weekends to go to the rod and gun club. Guys in c quad would ask ohh cool were getting our new a2 rifles? Nope! We still had the a1s in 2nd bde at the time. But we did get them shortly there after. I also had the Phoebus/buck (the make that was available at the time), m9 bayonet I bought around the same time while we still had the m7 bayonets in the arms room. Fun story, and cool memories, from the electric strawberry.
i love the m16e1 clones and the partial fence lowers. I'm really looking forward to the lmg upper. I'd love to put a red dot on one and put it on a post sample lower to use it like an American RPK
We had a mix of Colts, Hydramatics and a few H&Rs in our platoon in Basic Training. I could have sworn there were a couple of of A1s produced by Mopar as well, but there isn't any evidence today on the interwebs to back that up. I was issued a Colt, and boy was it a jam master. Cost me my Expert badge. I begged the company armorer to swap me for another but he refused. Made me miss my Mini-14 I had at home sorely. Great vid, but don't forget the eye pro! Good to be a good example to young people in the shooting sports.
So cool the stuff PSA is doing with the H&R name. PSA fast becoming the people’s firearm manufacturers, cool as hell. Great variety, and have done a ton to make firearms common use.
Six months ago, bought a used Wyndham Weaponry AA-15A1, aka, a copy of the M-16A1. The only difference is that it has the A2 version of the heavyweight barrel with 1/7 twist so it can use the more modern rounds. Otherwise, it’s a M-16A1 through and through. Never fire it once….For me, it’s an “historical piece” show and tell. If I need my 5.56 fix, I have my Daniel Defense DD MK12, DDM4V9 and my FN Military Grade M-16A4 for that.
@@brandonrupp5880 I got a standard forged upper, young manufacturing BCG, 16 inch faxon pencil barrel, vg6 epsilon muzzle device, faxon lightweight gas block, 15 inch midwest industries combat rail, primary arms 1x micro prism, magpul mbus sights, bcm mod 3b charging handle. Also put a bcm pnt trigger in the lower
@@ethan5.56 that's similar to what I built. I have the same barrel, a Brownells low mas bolt, an ALG EMR v1 13 inch rail, and and ALG ACT trigger. I've got an adjustable gas block on the way to deal with my over gas issue. I have not decided on the optic yet.
@@ethan5.56 I'm pretty sure it has a lot to do with the low mass bolt. I ran the sand bolt in right with a rifle length buffer and used a 308 flat wire spring the compensate. Unfortunately I can't use the same spring in the KP-15.
Im really lusting after the DOE gun. It looks so cool. But, I'm also excited about this grey anodizing process. Because, i like the color. It would look amazing on the JAKLs too.
I really wish the early M16 clone came with a slick chrome bolt & carrier plus 3 prong like we actually had. Plus, the early 20 round mag with stainless steel follower, sometimes referred to as the Air Force mag.
You would think PSA could at least put a phosphated and chrome-lined BCG in their clone, rather than what appears to be completely incorrect nitrided BCG that is not and never has been mil-spec. I have a Brownell's slick-side chrome BCG and a Primary Arms serrated chrome BCG for my early clones. They're less than $150, and I'm guessing people would be willing to pay the $50 difference for a "correct" clone.
PSA has some models with the non-serrated chrome BCG. Check out the 'Early Air Force Slick Side" and the XM16E1. Also, look in the "Parts" section of the H & R lineup. You'll see the 20 round G.I. magazine and the waffle mags. I don't know if it has the s.s. follower.
Whatever. He was a Winger. The closest he came to the Corps was at MCRD and then the birthday ball every year. Pssst. A Winger is a Air Wing Marine, think USAF but with worse living conditions than airmen but worlds better than combat arms. Gets the dress blues, but doesn't have to earn them every day.
I like that they can make these retro rifles with modern technology and more consistent machining, makes buying a firearm like this a more viable option for practical use
Last year that the MN Gun Owners Caucus Rally at the MN State Capitol Rotunda I met a guy who had worked for H&R and he was telling me about how PSA had bought their parts and were going to make the semi auto version of it. I'm jazzed as the only rifle I've ever shot was the M16A1 in the late 1980s. I love the triangular grips which make one cradle the bottom of the barrel rather than like now where guys will put their thumb over the top of the barrel which looks tiresome. There was a trick on using the sling to steady your shots while standing or in an unsupported position that they probably don't teach anymore either. It's simple and the cleaning of it is a snap. I've seen the Hellion bullpup and that looks like a nightmare to clean plus all the possible places something could snag on the rifle. I doubt it happens but having a CMP for the full auto version would be great. Thanks.
Colt & FN were the only manufacturers of the M16A2. An H&R A2 would have had to have been a conversion of an M16A1with the FULL auto setting obliterated and rebranded BURST.
@@georgewhitworth9742 no not actually rifles but the plastic furniture was manufactured by Mattel. Boxes of replacement furniture grips, stocks and forearms were marked mattel not the parts.
@@longhunter5520I've heard those stories so many times but no one has ever produced them to prove it. There are original parts out there. If Mattel actually produced those, someone would have some. No one does, including fervent collectors.
Fort Knox August 1970. My first day at the range, my H&R M16A1 broke. I don't mean it malfunctioned, it BROKE and had to repaired by the armorer located behind the bleachers. The fact an armorer was at the range spoke volumes for me. I never trusted M16A1s for the rest of my time in the army.
In '90 I watched a cute, redheaded female Marine I served with at Cherry Point have to finish quals by holding the mag in place because the mag catch was trashed.
I need one of those to go with planned Vietnam War era military uniform I plan on getting. I love the look of a US soldier of that era. Especially a M1 helmet with peace messages and buttons attached to it. And the flak jacket.
Idk why but I keep finding myself wanting to get a retro Vietnam Era looking rifle lately. I doubt it will shoot much different than the modern ones i have but that Vietnam Era look makes me want it. Ive watched too many Vietnam War movies I guess
@@BaconSlayer69yes, and the old ones have a different twist rate. I served alongside many Vietnam vets as well as having uncles and brothers-in-law who were there. Yeah, too many Vietnam movies is a pretty low bar.
I wouldn't mind buying some new furniture for the A1 I build in the mid 2000's. By then the retro craze was drying up a lot of the parts so I could only get well-worn smooth handguards. So I used matte clear coat to kind of spatter paint the real parts to bring the texture back. It turned out great and has worn well so it looks the part. But the metal barely has any wear to match. It kind of sucks that these retro lines come and go so quickly and hardly ever sell parts.
I carried an H&R in the Army. Seeing what you are demonstrating, takes me back.
That's really cool man, thanks for sharing.
I am so sorry. I started off with an A1, and just like the rest of us we were thrilled to be rid of them.
Question how do you know Tark the Shark?
No, you weren't! STOP PRETENDING! Seeing the IP address of your account shows you are just in your 20s..
@johnwickfriends2876 How can you determine that? Sorry I'm illiterate with that stuff.
H&R made M1 Garands and M14's. It would be awesome if PSA could start making some of those new production again!
I carried an H&R M-14 in Iraq.
@@mikebrase5161you da man!
They are rumored to be looking into it (Garands), they might just start doing parts first tho
But what about kar98k or sks since they got 7.62x39 with aac now. M1 carbine because springfeild hasnt done it yet idk
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Auto Ordnance makes M1 Carbines, so PSA wouldn't make them because it's not worth it. There's already reproductions in the market. SKS there's still a lot of surplus and even for the Kars. So they wouldn't unless that surplus dries up.
I was USAF Security Police back in the 80s. Except for the birdcage flash suppressor, that looks just like my old issued M-16. Mine had the 3-prong flash suppressor.
Same here. Offutt was still running these in 1988.
I was in USAF basic training at Lackland AFB in 1969. The M16 rifle I practiced the manual of arms had a 5000 range serial number! Now that I remember it that's cool!
We definitely still had some early M16s in the Air Force well into the late 90s. At least some bases starting setting aside the earliest rifles for displays & museums. 🤠
@@sleeplessgamingct4227I would like to know who you accuse of lying. Let’s get this conversation rolling.
Don, or Dennis?
While in basis training at Lackland in February and March, we didn't get to shoot at all. We were told all ammo was going to VN.
Whoops, 1969
PSA has been doing good things for years. Along the way they have caught hate like any company. People need to support them. Because of things like this and many other reasons. The companies owner has a very good stance on 2A and firearms in general.
Agreed 💯🎯
They need better QA
PSA is great of a company that exists for a reason other than money. Because they put freedom first they are raking in the $$$$ which they are putting back into the mission of spreading freedom.
@sunnycat69 Then don't support them. They have came a long way. They are making decent ammo now. They bought rights and brought back H&R retro rifles.
@@matthewconnor5483🎉😂
I've been waiting for these H&R M16A1s to restock. I have the H&R M16A2, and really enjoy shooting it. The long barreled and full stock Ars are so much smoother and comfortable shooting when compared to short barreled collapsible stock M4 style rifles.
That and the compartment in the back of the stock is amazing I put all kinds of s*** in mine ,barrel cleaning kit one bullet toilet paper ,Allen keys, extractor
Used an a1 for years. Really giving this one serious consideration.
I got the 1:7 twist H&R M16A1, it’s fun to shoot. Simplicity. I did replace the triangular hand guards with the A2 oval hand guards.
I was at Basic Training and Infantry School at Ft. Benning in the Summer of 1986. I had a General Motors Hydramatic Division lower, Anniston Arsenal markings on the lowers from 1983-86 because Ft. Benning is a Basic Training and Home of the Infantry at that time. Barrels and components would get worn out and have to be replaced. From my experience there were many guys who couldn't shoot. They were called "Jerry's Kids" or the "Bolo Turtles". I can see why the Army has spent money on fixing rifles and wasting ammo.
In about 2010, my agency received a bunch of Colt M16 SP1’s that were issued to us (troopers). We could only shoot 55 grain ammo because of the barrel twist rate (which I think was 12:1). They had the three prong flash hiders, no forward assist, and carry handle. What I liked most about them was the greenish gray finish. They were extremely accurate and we shot about 2000+ rounds without cleaning them that week without malfunctioning. Excellent rifles and I wish I could’ve bought mine when I retired…technically they were still property of the US Government.
My agency had the old A1s also. Btw, it's 1 in 12, not 12 to 1.
They were accurate enough, but it was much easier to mount optics on the carbines as well as secure the carbines in the vehicles. The old A1s were just too tall for an Explorer and specially for the Taurus.
Just fine with Expeditions and Vics.
@@JD-tn5lz I couldn’t remember the twist rating exactly and too lazy to look it up…lol. Thanks for correcting that. We never had the Taurus or Explorer. We were still running CV’s with 200k+ miles on them. Now they all have Tahoes I see.
Back in 1989, we had M-16 A1s at Ft. Leonard Wood, MO when I was in Basic. The finish was almost all stripped off due to excessive cleaning enforced by Dril Sergeants. The rifles qwere really loose. The rifle I uses had the triangle grips. We had the claning kit compartment as well. The A-1s we had at my Guard unit had the cleaning kit compartment in the stock.
I like the A-1 sights much better than the A-2 sights. Who really needs the elevation knob under the Widage knob. Elevation was just adjusted on the ront sight on the A-1.
We were good out to 350yds with the A-1.
The knob under the rear sight is range, not elevation. The front sight is used for zeroing elevation on any M16 or M4. The range knob is to compensate for distance to the target after the sights have been zeroed, which may be overly-complicated for a combat rifle, depending on who you ask.
On A1 the rear was strictly windage and front was strictly elevation, except for the "L" flip.
We (USMC infantry) never used either after zeroing and quals. They were there and ignored. No issue with them being on the rifles. We didn't even mess with the flip-up "L."
We loved the A2 sights, though we ignored their adjustments also. Just having them and knowing that we had a rifle that we could take to 800 if we had to was a real morale boost.
Reference this A1 knockoff, whatever. I didn't know anyone back in the Fleet who missed the A1 after we got the A2. We missed the full-auto, but we absolutely loved the greater accuracy of the A2 at distance and when you held an A2, you knew you had a weapon...not so much with an A1. @@KevinJames-yg9eu
Never understood why the A2 sights added the knobs.
@@matthewconnor5483Blame Marine Corps competition shooters
@@Localjadedealer probably. I can't think of many cases where a 50m wouldn't be good enough for reaching out, especially on a 20in barrel. If they are that far out just use the medium mg or M2.
i live in a rural area and these retro rifles but with an optic make far more sense in my area if you're not using a 308. the ability to strap a light weight AR on your shoulder that can easily make a 500-600 yard shot and then be able to walk with it for miles is incredibly valuable for me
I made an XM177 clone out of an A1 Colt kit I had and used a PSA H&R XM177 government marked lower.
Its 99% correct now thanks to PSA for making this stuff available.
I will be buying an H&R government marked M16 E1 lower for another clone I have.
I have always loved the carry handle ARs and the simplicity of them and have had Colt SP1 s and carbine SP1s as well and wished I had kept them. When I had them they weren't all that collectable and priced around $600.00 and you could find them everywhere.
I made a 603 (XM16E1) clone. Used all original M16A1 parts and furniture and a No Dak Spud XM16E1 semi auto receiver. 25 years ago No Dak Spud was doing lots of retro lowers.
I have a 601 clone build that I built on a Nodak Spud 601 lower. These are fun to build.
Tim must have monster grip, I have never been able to remove hand guards without a tool lol. Awesome video!
I bought the hand guard removal tool from Brownells. Easy peazy.
@@SaundersE5 I bought the same one, easy!
@@n721swgreat minds think alike.
Tim, by the way you were glowing through this post, I have no doubt how much these mean to you. Your passion, mix of tech, history and unity/fun factor are why MAC is my fav channel. Thank you so much and keep up the fantastic work!!!
I carried an M16A1 in the US Army of the 1980s. Although I was never in combat, I found it to be rugged and reliable during field training and qualifications; mine never jammed on me at all.
I too enjoy the retro style, and Windham Weaponry came up with the perfect combination for me in their “Government Model A1” version. As a lefty I need at least the A2 style brass deflector, and the Windham is basically a semiautomatic-only A1 except for that, the A2 stock (which I prefer as a bit sturdier), the A2 front sight, and the A2 profile barrel with the 1:7” twist, plus the M4 feed ramp. It has the A1 receiver (except for the feed ramp and the brass deflector), A1 rear sight, A1 forward assist, A1 hand guards, A1 pistol grip, and A1 flash hider. To me it has the classy old school look and feel but with more modern performance features. They can be had brand new for under a grand, and they are extremely well made; with my Brownells “Retro” 4X carry handle optic it is an absolute tack driver.
Another option out there for us retro AR fans; it is my lone AR and I have no desire for any other.
I bought one of the m16a1 parts kit and one of the PSA H&R m16a1 lowers
After taking light sand paper and steel wool to the lower to put fake wear on the high spots it ended up matching the upper really well.
Their lowers for the a1 are perfect for the parts kits that have been coming in
@VintageRenewed: Howdy! Hey, tell me what source you have for recent parts kits? I’m kicking myself for not picking up a few kits when they were available.
@@terrysaunders2026
Atlantic firearms currently has the kits for 749
They are really nice rifles, the M16A1 have a red bumper on the buffer. All Vietnam M16A1's had a red bumper on the buffers, Colt retro's had a yellow bumper on their buffer. Mike from Nodak Spud and CEO of H&R said at a previous shot show that the majority of M16A1's produced under contract for the war bye H&R were black anodized, very few gray one's were produced by H&R. But yeah they are 99.5 % period correct for the H&R rifles. Very sweet. Blessings
Idk about that. I have a 1967 dated buffer with a black bumper still in the original packaging.
@@Honeybiscuits1Very well could be since that an 1967 part. Thanks for the education. Blessings
The first AR I ever bought was a Colt modeled mostly after the A1 in 1978. But lacked the forward assist and fence around the mag release. Did have birdcage flashhider and trapdoor butstock..
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On the subject of the blem options. I got one of the stripped carry handle A2 uppers that was a blem and externally it was perfect. What I did notice was that about half of the inside where the bolt carrier rides did not get anodized all the way. Not really a big deal since it would be succinctly covered in oil, grease, and carbon. So if I had to guess what blem means, it's probably imperfect anodization
Been looking at their website for awhile.. Probably going to put together a Blood Diamond carbine clone, once my ATF permission slip arrives. Keep us updated on any new H&R stuff you get. Also Brownells licensed the Colt name on all their retro 4x carry handle scopes
PSA has pinned and welded 13.7 and 14.5 uppers that don't need a stamp, just something to look at if you want to save money
@@homelessman3483no one wants a pinned & welded 10"
@@UA-camflakelandyou're right we want a 10.5
Dude, just wait a little longer. PSA just announced their new Blood Diamond "AR pistol" along with the DOE SMG, Colt LMG, and Fallout: New Vegas' Service Rifle
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 it's gotta have the aluminum car stock buddy. I am glad they're offering it though.
I got the H&R 654 slick slide. They only made one or two batches of it it’s not on their website anymore but it’s absolutely fantastic. Enjoy the no forward assist and no brass deflector very slender and sleek. No malfunctions after a year. If you’re debating on any of these models go for it!
Early m16a1 had D type stocks, no cleaning kit door. Later ones had the E type on yours. So either one would be ok and correct as a clone.
I think the carry handle style rifles are much classier looking than the flat-top style. That’s awesome that they’re making them
The carry handle/rear sight module can be affixed to the flat top uppers. I did it to one and added a triangular hand-guard to make an early model clone AR-15
I was stoked about Brownells bringing back all those old versions of the AR15/10, and was disappointed to see that they are pretty much done with that. Glad to see someone is picking up the slack and going ahead with retro guns. As much as we all love the modern railed M4 style guns, most of us old farts got into AR's because of these older guns. They have personality, style. Challenges to overcome, yes...but so much flavor.
I was disappointed as well...I still would love a retro AR-10 that I never had a chance to get from Brownells
Brownells is coming back with them
The brownells are also the same guns as these made with the same dies
I'm a sucker for the return of retro designs, especially an A1 like this! Hope to see more of this in the future. In handguns too - I'd be thrilled if S&W relaunched a few of their third-gen semi autos.
I've been calling for S&W to do that for years. They would make a killing if they did a run for a year and let people get their fill of Gen 3 autos.
@@Militaryarmschannel Agreed 100%. Especially given my fondness for metal-framed semi-autos with no rails or optics cuts. Sometimes having the option to keep smooth, classic aesthetics intact is all I want.
I am too, especially having carried the originals on active duty.
Yeah,
If you like broken parts and barrels with holes shot through them. S&W third gen semi auto pistols were not that great. To each their own…
Just got a 4506-1 myself. New in box. Love it.
I have said for many years the A1 rifle was the best most handy model , i used the Colt 604 in the USAF in the early 70s, just called the M16 rifle.
My retro came from Fulton Armory, and I have been very pleased with it.
They make top notch weapons.
I was a marine, had an a1 in basic training, and a2 at my first duty station. Love them both (look of these firearms are amazing).
Thanks for making the video.
The original slicksides are the best in my opinion. Full length, light weight, and barely stabilized 55 grain pills going at 3000+ fps. And they are the coolest looking too.
I got my H&R M16A1 a couple months ago. It’s been a great rifle. It’s what I carried in ROTC and during active duty in the 1980s. Always regretted not picking up an SP1 in the 80’s. May pick up an H&R A2 since I was issued one in the late 80’s before I separated from service
The very last C-1/56 ADA Ft. Bliss, Texas for Basic Training (1990) and we trained with the A-1. Then met the A-2 in AIT. Fantastic rifle and i cant wait to get my hands on this one. Good on ya, PSA!
Had a hydromatic in basic at Fort Dix in 1987, went to the reserve unit and was issued an hra and it had never been used before.
I then went to an air force reserve unit and qualified on one of the original air force colts. No forward assist. One of our sergeants worked at Colt and he said he probally assembled it.
I do have an hra m1 from the cmp.
H & R does have the 20 rd waffle mags and the non serrated chrome BCGs also. I've purchased 4 of these rifles so far in different configurations. I love,love,love em. There's so many more I'm hoping to acquire in the future.
Just ordered my early 604 model yesterday
I just got my M16A1 upper from PSA and it is so much fun to shoot. Have my Flow 556k on it and its insanely quiet at ear for what it is. It was sold out in 12 hours, so glad I snagged one.
Mac: Excited about authentic looking, retro clones
Me: *Dreams about making The Patriot from MGS3
♫"What a thrill..."♫
I fell compelled to climb a ladder reading that sir.
@@OrtadragoonX For almost 2 minutes
On my 2 m16a1 transferable 9 million serial # range. I put the Geissele 11.5 URGI upper, a suppressor, B5 stock and a surefire light. Full auto goodness and fairly light. I use the uppers to keep the original upper in great shape.
Mac!! Awesome content on retro m16!! I cannot wait for them to come out soon!! Thank you
My SP-1 has serrations in the OEM Colt bolt. It must be a later variant. It also has the birdcage and a trapdoor buttplate.
Later production SP1's would have serrated bolt carriers. Once the M16A1 was introduced, Colt put the A1 carrier into all SP1's.
My SP-1 is the same. I dated it to 1976.
What year did they start using the sedated bolt carrier in the sp1?
@@quickturn66 I think about '68, when the M16A1 was introduced.
I got one to Mac absolutely love mine. I got the xm16 upper with 3 prong and chrome bolt
Nice!
I bought a slickside 14.7" from PSA. Its a great little rifle, only a couple hundred rounds through it so far but I like it. 6 pounds 3 ounces with a loaded 20 round magazine.
Ahh, Worlds of Fun. In my 60's now and I remember when they opened up. We were there the first week. My dad worked at Santa Fe and we got group tickets. Later in life my wife worked for Bendix King/Allied Signal/Honeywell and we used to take our boys several times a summer. Now, its priced so high and we are older now and those types of places just don't appeal. But, I can tell you what does, firearms. I absolutely love my AR15A1 ri8fles. Not a fan of the AK types. Even older as I am, poorer eyesight and all, I can still drill super tight groups on my 150 yard range on our property. Great video as always. I think I may try to convince my wife of one of these H&R clones. Our anniversary is coming up in May, might have to drop a few hints. UA-cam playing their games again, I had to click the subscribe button all over again. Catch ya in the next video.
Just bought a Springfield SA16A2 today.
Btw, they apparently fixed the weak spring in the hand guard ring. While you can force the hand guards back towards the reciever, it takes both hands with the butt on the floor.
The fit on the hand guards is also very good and the ring holds them in place VERY firmly.
No rattles, nothing feels loose or pops.
So it seems they fixed the new builds. 👍
Looks just like the M16a2 I carried in the Army 1980s.
Runs m193 ball 55gr flawlessly.
I picked up one of the H&R's in grey too. LOVE IT!
Nodak Spud was meticulous when it came to prepping their uppers and lowers for anodizing in the XM gray. My understanding is the gray is less forgiving than black with regards to getting an even finish.
I like the m16 style ars, my ar is an a2 replica. I don’t recommend it for most people but for me the a2 style is perfect, at 6ft tall it fits me better than the shorter barrel versions.
I have learned that PSA Blems are an interesting thing, I bought a AK Blem and had it shipped to a pawn shop I deal with at times, the guy I was dealing with said that they had a game for PSA firearms, and it is to find the blem on the blems as they also could not find the issues at all. It's like they just take a random rifle out and call it a blem or something.
I remember qualifying with the A1 in boot camp in 1986. We got the A2 around a year later in Germany.
I just bought a H&R Dissipator last week. Lovely gun...my first shots were a bit high and right but then I was able to adjust the more I shot it. All in all, I was more accurate with this classic beast than with other ARs, even the overpriced MR 556 with G3 sights. All you need is a two-position rear sight, no redundant forward assist, no fencing around the mag release button and those beautiful triangle handguards. Oh, and I didn't have one malfunction so far.
Brings back a lot of memories of my time in the Nation Guard, 10-15-72 to 03-15-86. 🇺🇸😎
I've been a huge AK guy the last 15 years and finally got my first AR and it's this H&R M16A1. Starting near the roots of the AR platform is so fun. It's my new favorite gun and shoots like a dream! Quality is amazing on these guns and definitely scratches the retro itch. Highly recommend!
Thats a dead ringer for the one i was issued in 86 in germany. Mine had a three prong up front . Otherwise same same minus the patina .
PSA killin' it!! Glad I was an early adopter.
THE XM16E1 WAS 5.92 LBS. GREEN BUTTSTOCK AND FOREGRIP 1965-66 3 PRONG FLASH HIDER .
The H&R ones I saw back in 1977 in Panama had teardrop forward assist.
I saw these on their website last week, I should have bought one when I had the chance. All out of stock right now
I bought a H&R colt 635 lower to put with my original 635 parts kit. I wish they offered more of the colt blue/gray, because the black is too dark and the gray is too light. However function wise its great.
I used an M16a1 from '84 to '88 . The ones we used were reconditioned Vietnam War weapons..I liked the automatic capability but as a leftie you better hope the range had brass deflectors on hand.
Me too, had to button my top button or be ready to dance if a shell went down my back!
Worlds of fun,,,,I've been there,,,they had the ""Screem Roller""back then,& in basic training in Fort Knox,my M-16,was a GM ,manufactured, shot "EXPERT" with it,,only soldier in my squad that shot Expert. Soo,you must be from the Kansas city area.
I remember shooting one back in the early 80s when I was getting my badge in the boy scouts. Can't remember the range we was at but somewhere in indiana and the reserves was there practicing too and they let our troop shoot one.. we all had a smile from ear to ear.
I picked up the H&R m16a2 with the FN CHF barrel. Excellent quality, in fact I was amazed by the quality when I received it.
How was it zeroing? I've seen a few vids etc. of owners complaining about canted FSBs and the aperture having to be way over to one side or the other. I guess it just the luck of the draw, I'd hope PSA would correct this for you with no issues. I' d really like an A1 20" or a 653.
@@John-zf5wc Mine was centered. No issues with the rifle that I have noticed. Sweet shooter.
@@jonnelson6091Excellent! Thanks for the info!
Good video as always. That is interesting what you said about a Brownells rifle having to move windage all the way to one side. I bought an A1 upper from them and had to move windage all the way to one side, but able to get it zeroed.
We used the 604s when I was in the Chair For ce back in "73".
That's what I carried in basic and ait. Funny thing when I was in the 25th id in the 80s there was a gun shop outside post. I bought a colt ar15 sporter 2, Looked like a a2 back when you could get thatbstuff there. I kept in the arms room. When I would pull it out on weekends to go to the rod and gun club. Guys in c quad would ask ohh cool were getting our new a2 rifles? Nope! We still had the a1s in 2nd bde at the time. But we did get them shortly there after. I also had the Phoebus/buck (the make that was available at the time), m9 bayonet I bought around the same time while we still had the m7 bayonets in the arms room. Fun story, and cool memories, from the electric strawberry.
i love the m16e1 clones and the partial fence lowers. I'm really looking forward to the lmg upper. I'd love to put a red dot on one and put it on a post sample lower to use it like an American RPK
I bought the H&R 604 about a year ago with the black finish with the 1 / 7 barrel. Still haven’t shot it yet. Guess you beat me to it.
We had a mix of Colts, Hydramatics and a few H&Rs in our platoon in Basic Training. I could have sworn there were a couple of of A1s produced by Mopar as well, but there isn't any evidence today on the interwebs to back that up. I was issued a Colt, and boy was it a jam master. Cost me my Expert badge. I begged the company armorer to swap me for another but he refused. Made me miss my Mini-14 I had at home sorely.
Great vid, but don't forget the eye pro! Good to be a good example to young people in the shooting sports.
Noticed the non blems were in stock and pulled the trigger. Your videos are a great watch, especially when it's a gun I'm waiting impatiently for
Love the retro design. My M-16 in basic was manufactured by the "GM Hydromatic Division".... 👍
Great video, nothing like a classic AR. Thanks
So cool the stuff PSA is doing with the H&R name. PSA fast becoming the people’s firearm manufacturers, cool as hell. Great variety, and have done a ton to make firearms common use.
The design was and is great. I have an A2 that's 30+ years old and is FUN!
Six months ago, bought a used Wyndham Weaponry AA-15A1, aka, a copy of the M-16A1. The only difference is that it has the A2 version of the heavyweight barrel with 1/7 twist so it can use the more modern rounds. Otherwise, it’s a M-16A1 through and through. Never fire it once….For me, it’s an “historical piece” show and tell. If I need my 5.56 fix, I have my Daniel Defense DD MK12, DDM4V9 and my FN Military Grade M-16A4 for that.
My Colt SP1 (1976) is the same as the M16A1 clone minus the forward assist.
I qualified on a H&R in the Air Force and used it for Base ground self defense force and phase 1 and 2 training.
I love these older style rifles. I also really like the lightweight rifle I put together on a KE Arms KP-15 lower. Great video as always
What upper did you put on your build?
@@brandonrupp5880 I got a standard forged upper, young manufacturing BCG, 16 inch faxon pencil barrel, vg6 epsilon muzzle device, faxon lightweight gas block, 15 inch midwest industries combat rail, primary arms 1x micro prism, magpul mbus sights, bcm mod 3b charging handle. Also put a bcm pnt trigger in the lower
@@ethan5.56 that's similar to what I built. I have the same barrel, a Brownells low mas bolt, an ALG EMR v1 13 inch rail, and and ALG ACT trigger. I've got an adjustable gas block on the way to deal with my over gas issue. I have not decided on the optic yet.
@@brandonrupp5880 mine doesn't seem to be very overgassed and I've been debating going to a magnified optic
@@ethan5.56 I'm pretty sure it has a lot to do with the low mass bolt. I ran the sand bolt in right with a rifle length buffer and used a 308 flat wire spring the compensate. Unfortunately I can't use the same spring in the KP-15.
I bought a PSA blemished complete lower bout a year ago. Saved 30 dollars on it. To this day see no blemishes
My girl and I were just at Worlds of Fun. That's hilarious. No M-16s there though.
I will have to pick one up. Thanks!
I bought a Wyndham 20” “Government Rifle” and swapped out the handguard with the old school triangular handguard.
It’s pretty sick looking.
I know I’m in the minority but I’d be much happier to see H&R bringing back the single shot rifles and shotguns.
Retro guns are awesome training tools. Modern rifles should be picked up after training with retro. Just my take on it. 😎👍
That repro stg 44 they're making is cool also
Im really lusting after the DOE gun. It looks so cool. But, I'm also excited about this grey anodizing process. Because, i like the color. It would look amazing on the JAKLs too.
Wow, what a blast from the past.
I really wish the early M16 clone came with a slick chrome bolt & carrier plus 3 prong like we actually had. Plus, the early 20 round mag with stainless steel follower, sometimes referred to as the Air Force mag.
You would think PSA could at least put a phosphated and chrome-lined BCG in their clone, rather than what appears to be completely incorrect nitrided BCG that is not and never has been mil-spec. I have a Brownell's slick-side chrome BCG and a Primary Arms serrated chrome BCG for my early clones. They're less than $150, and I'm guessing people would be willing to pay the $50 difference for a "correct" clone.
PSA has some models with the non-serrated chrome BCG. Check out the 'Early Air Force Slick Side" and the XM16E1. Also, look in the "Parts" section of the H & R lineup. You'll see the 20 round G.I. magazine and the waffle mags. I don't know if it has the s.s. follower.
I'm definitely excited about their clone of the model 604 Air Force M16. Really the 1st M16 bought en masse. 🤠
Sadly they aren't marked as such as of now. They're only M16A1 marked.
Carried one of those in the 70s Wouldn’t mind having a copy
16:17 I remember this story - "Well I bought one, then I joined the Marines 😏
Whatever. He was a Winger. The closest he came to the Corps was at MCRD and then the birthday ball every year.
Pssst. A Winger is a Air Wing Marine, think USAF but with worse living conditions than airmen but worlds better than combat arms.
Gets the dress blues, but doesn't have to earn them every day.
I like that they can make these retro rifles with modern technology and more consistent machining, makes buying a firearm like this a more viable option for practical use
Last year that the MN Gun Owners Caucus Rally at the MN State Capitol Rotunda I met a guy who had worked for H&R and he was telling me about how PSA had bought their parts and were going to make the semi auto version of it. I'm jazzed as the only rifle I've ever shot was the M16A1 in the late 1980s. I love the triangular grips which make one cradle the bottom of the barrel rather than like now where guys will put their thumb over the top of the barrel which looks tiresome. There was a trick on using the sling to steady your shots while standing or in an unsupported position that they probably don't teach anymore either. It's simple and the cleaning of it is a snap. I've seen the Hellion bullpup and that looks like a nightmare to clean plus all the possible places something could snag on the rifle. I doubt it happens but having a CMP for the full auto version would be great. Thanks.
My basic training rifle in 93 was a H&R m16a2 so this is awesome.
My dad was issued H&R's and also had a Mattel rifle in Vietnam.
Colt & FN were the only manufacturers of the M16A2. An H&R A2 would have had to have been a conversion of an M16A1with the FULL auto setting obliterated and rebranded BURST.
There never was a Mattel M16 or AR-15. It's a myth.
There were no Mattel made rifles.
@@georgewhitworth9742 no not actually rifles but the plastic furniture was manufactured by Mattel. Boxes of replacement furniture grips, stocks and forearms were marked mattel not the parts.
@@longhunter5520I've heard those stories so many times but no one has ever produced them to prove it. There are original parts out there. If Mattel actually produced those, someone would have some. No one does, including fervent collectors.
I purchaesed the HR upper and lower , got the barrel brownells and the rest of the parts from Fulton armory and it was under $1000
One thing I would like to see on all H&R receivers is m16/m4 cut. If we are building clones, then let’s do it! 😎
Fort Knox August 1970. My first day at the range, my H&R M16A1 broke. I don't mean it malfunctioned, it BROKE and had to repaired by the armorer located behind the bleachers. The fact an armorer was at the range spoke volumes for me. I never trusted M16A1s for the rest of my time in the army.
In '90 I watched a cute, redheaded female Marine I served with at Cherry Point have to finish quals by holding the mag in place because the mag catch was trashed.
I need one of those to go with planned Vietnam War era military uniform I plan on getting. I love the look of a US soldier of that era. Especially a M1 helmet with peace messages and buttons attached to it. And the flak jacket.
Idk why but I keep finding myself wanting to get a retro Vietnam Era looking rifle lately. I doubt it will shoot much different than the modern ones i have but that Vietnam Era look makes me want it. Ive watched too many Vietnam War movies I guess
They’re lighter weight
@@BaconSlayer69yes, and the old ones have a different twist rate.
I served alongside many Vietnam vets as well as having uncles and brothers-in-law who were there.
Yeah, too many Vietnam movies is a pretty low bar.
@@JD-tn5lz the military should’ve kept the A1 to be honest
I wouldn't mind buying some new furniture for the A1 I build in the mid 2000's. By then the retro craze was drying up a lot of the parts so I could only get well-worn smooth handguards. So I used matte clear coat to kind of spatter paint the real parts to bring the texture back. It turned out great and has worn well so it looks the part. But the metal barely has any wear to match. It kind of sucks that these retro lines come and go so quickly and hardly ever sell parts.
JSE Surplus and Double Star have A1 furniture. Also, Black Rifle Retro has a variety of retro furniture and parts.