CRAZY IDEAS TO HEAT MY KOI POND***will this work***gas boiler **ASHP**WILL IT WORK ??? HELP

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  • @way661
    @way661 2 роки тому +3

    Heat exchanger (the G2 one) is the way to go, fit it after mechanical filter and feed directly back to the pond for maximum efficiency, running it through the bio media is a waste of money as it will be cooling before it gets to the pond.
    The light flickering is the refresh rate on the camera happens all the time

  • @TelfordKoiPond
    @TelfordKoiPond 2 роки тому +3

    Afternoon James👍😊. I have a 12kw Thermotec ASHP and can’t rate it highly enough. Since the start of the cold weather it’s cost me circa £5 per week to keep my 2,500 gallon pond at 18 degrees (under polycarbonate covers) which I think is very reasonable👍😊. If there are cheaper alternatives then they will be a real bonus to the koi community but I haven’t come across anything that is as robust and reliable as an ASHP yet. I look forward to seeing what you end up with👍🐟🈲😊

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +2

      Yea tbh I would love to fit a air heat pump I just don’t think I can fit it in

  • @barrygraves934
    @barrygraves934 2 роки тому +1

    Hi James love the channel I don't no that much about heating koi ponds but I do remember when you put the 2 round heaters in your old pond I bought the same ones I don't use them all the time only when it's realy cold anyway the heaters they use today have a butcher's at Telford koi wrighty and few others they all have these heaters and the swear by them so if your thinking about heating your have a look it might give you some ideas good luck m8 love the pond and a thumbs up to the channel

    • @barrygraves934
      @barrygraves934 2 роки тому +1

      Sorry James I ment to say the new heat sauce heaters that's what there useing it's still early sorry

  • @stevesmith6022
    @stevesmith6022 2 роки тому +1

    Great koi great video as always James the food looks great to …👍🏻

  • @boxtriker
    @boxtriker 2 роки тому +3

    James you will have to cover the pond and or sliding windows round it or you will just be heating the garden them showers will also need to be in side it as they will be a huge heat loss and the front window will need to be covered its a huge expense but hay ho in for a penny in for a pound the chart hear says 2500 gallons well rapped up keeping a temp of 14 - 16 over 6 months of winter about £75 to £85 a month on gas at today price it comes in about the same as heating your house

  • @stephendorrington6916
    @stephendorrington6916 Рік тому

    Hi, thank you enjoy the video reference heat in your koi pond, I’m looking to add gas boiler to my koi pond, how did it work out? What are the dues and don’ts, please ?

  • @lovecakes200
    @lovecakes200 2 роки тому +1

    You will wonder why you never heated before now. Its expensive but in my opinion well worth it. It keeps the water staple, avoiding the temp dips that koi are not keen on.
    Better growth as well. Hope your idea works out . Yvonne

  • @surreykoi
    @surreykoi 2 роки тому +4

    James I’m sure you know who I am and forget anything that’s been said in jest and in a funny way as I’m sure you know that it’s all banter 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’m like Rasta and gas heated…. I paid £30 for a 6 months old combi boiler ( which I can get easily if your interested ) £75 for a heat exchanger that would heat a huge pool and about £30 for fittings inside my filter house…. Spent probably £300 max with everything including the supply pipe and connection…. I’m at a constant 24 degrees and that is around £50 a month… so that’s about £250 max per year to do that…. If you go Air source it’s let’s say £1500 for the unit plus fitting etc so say £1600+ and say around the same price to run within a few quid….. plus I never get a problem with a boiler just like you don’t with your house!!! No brainer I say as you’ve already got a gas pipe ran to your filter house….. Hope this advice may help or may not? Either way you’ll do what you think but gas will save you money with no massive up front layout 🤷🏼‍♂️👍🏻

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +2

      Yea I no who you is my second top subscriber 😂😂🤔
      Banter
      It is what it is
      But yea going to go gas it’s ready to rock and roll my mate has a secondhand boiler for me ready to go so it’s a win win 🥇
      Thanks on the comment

    • @surreykoi
      @surreykoi 2 роки тому +1

      @@JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123 good man and don’t be a stranger as end of the day we are all here for the koi and can’t fault your enthusiasm and as a non tradesmen the build quality!!! 👍🏻

    • @flipvisual2k1
      @flipvisual2k1 Рік тому

      I don't have mains gas where I am in unfortunately. Guessing based on this you would recommend a ASHP to heat my indoor pond to 24-26 degrees?

  • @richardc1983
    @richardc1983 2 роки тому +1

    If you have access to mains gas then the gas will be cheaper to heat with than the ASHP, ONLY because mains gas is cheaper per kwh of energy. The heat pump will do it more efficiently but electricity costs more and always will. Gas will always be cheaper.

  • @acidid
    @acidid 2 роки тому

    Hi James looking the hammer mate, could you not put air source to the right of your gate, in place of the planter and run the pipes below ground into pump house?

  • @Koifishkemp
    @Koifishkemp 2 роки тому +1

    I bought a remora 6kw air source heat pump installing it this weekend james looks the hammer! will do a youtube vid when its all done. its only a £200 more than this one your looking at but its big unit!

  • @samjones7377
    @samjones7377 2 роки тому +3

    I'm a gas engineer by trade so naturally I fitted a gas boiler to mine. Mines heated all winter to 24C and I'm pleasantly surprised that it's not too expensive.
    I've used a stainless steel pool heat exchanger and a swimming pool stat. Works a treat. 3000 gallon above ground pond.

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +1

      Yea most people I no with gas have used that way and seems to work very well from the sounds of things

  • @sweeneyTodd-de4by
    @sweeneyTodd-de4by 2 роки тому +1

    Hi mate did you find out what make model microscope you use

  • @keepingitkoi
    @keepingitkoi 2 роки тому +1

    As your stuck for space I'd say you've come up with the best alternative although I've never seen the exchanger that your looking at but it looks very fancy and can't see any reason why it wouldn't work 👍

  • @maximussmackus8282
    @maximussmackus8282 2 роки тому +1

    Have a look at a iboost system. Never seen one on a Koi pond and would need solar panels on pond roof to power it. Heats water through a immersion heater. If it did work would be free power. Not sure if it would get you up to 18 degrees though. Had various reports at work that some customers only use the iboost for hot water. These are small flats though with 210litre cylinders. Difference is though you will not be drawing off hot water. You would be losing heat, but that different.

  • @ryanotter1747
    @ryanotter1747 2 роки тому +1

    Like I suggested while you were building heat it via a ss coil from your existing boiler (this is how I do it). I’ve got it in my large bio with a extra large air stone under it , works a treat.

  • @smithmiesterman
    @smithmiesterman 2 роки тому +1

    pond looks amazing !!, i would probably look at a swimming pool heater, they are pretty much the same thing but cheaper!

  • @readmore7180
    @readmore7180 2 роки тому +6

    My crazy idea for the summer, I'm going to run a coil of pipe through my compost heap and use that heat to add some warmth to the pond haha. May not work but it's something to do !!

    • @bobcharlie7982
      @bobcharlie7982 2 роки тому +1

      I dont think it would generate enough heat, nice idea
      Although it all depends on the size of your compost heap i guess!

    • @brad-marc26
      @brad-marc26 2 роки тому

      @@bobcharlie7982 would also depend on the size of the pond

    • @readmore7180
      @readmore7180 2 роки тому

      @@bobcharlie7982 the compost his a fare size, but I'll only know if it works once I've done it, I'm not intending to heat the pond exactly, just maybe keep it above freezing, it's done fine with no heater at all for the last 12 years lol. It's just something interesting to try really.
      I have two ponds, one small one that feeds the big one, this little project will be feeding the smaller one as that's only 18 inches deep, the big pond is 5ft deep by 15 by 6 so I wouldn't expect that to work on that haha

  • @richardmeeds2173
    @richardmeeds2173 2 роки тому +1

    Great vid as usual saw a unique idea the other day from a guy who mines bitcoin. He uses the heat from that to heat his pond so almost free heating 🤙

  • @mcfang68
    @mcfang68 2 роки тому +1

    Hello James.. always so many comments on your stuff now days and you always respond to questions👌🏼👍. I guess that’s what makes a UA-camr great! I really can not help you with your heating construction because as you know I don’t heat my pond but maybe you didn’t realize that some people actually don’t bring their koi inside like me. They will do 1 of 2 other things…. The will either run electric floating heater or aerate the water to keep a hole open in the ice for air or both. People will very often lose fish in our winters. 😞 - My question… I heard you mention about wanting to heat the water for more fish, I am wondering why you feel that way? With cooler water temperatures wouldn’t you just control water quality with food types and quantities? Here I monitor water temps and stop the high protein foods at about 15 degrees or colder and don’t feed at all with less than 10 degrees. I don’t see the link with water temps and number of fish. Please forgive me if I am missing something with that as I know we do have very different conditions. Thanks James.

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +1

      Yes it’s just most koi dealers are heated so means with my pond temperature I can’t add any more koi untill I can get my pond temperature as close to the koi dealers temperature that’s all

  • @johnrodgers2750
    @johnrodgers2750 2 роки тому +1

    Hi had the inline model didn’t rate it moved on to the coil no problems with the media thought I would upgrade to a 17 KVA AHSP don’t rate it at all kept my coil and will be refitting this back in very shortly best way to go

  • @thekoichannel264
    @thekoichannel264 2 роки тому +4

    Gas is cheeper at all times of year, don’t let anyone tell you different. The only time ASHP are more cost effective are on very warm days when the heater wouldn’t kick in anyway. When a ASHP is struggling to hold 16c a gas boiler will be half asleep 🔥

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +1

      Interesting information happy days mate

    • @richardc1983
      @richardc1983 2 роки тому

      If you have access to mains gas then the gas will be cheaper to heat with than the ASHP, ONLY because mains gas is cheaper per kwh of energy. The heat pump will do it more efficiently but electricity costs more and always will. Gas will always be cheaper.

    • @HEDST8
      @HEDST8 2 роки тому

      Yeh our fridge engineer has said himself that they work great in the summer but just use electric through the winter as there isnt any heat in the air for it to use.

    • @richardc1983
      @richardc1983 2 роки тому

      @@HEDST8 not true, there is heat energy in the air down to absolute zero. Heat (which is energy) is just our measure of comfort. How do you think your freezer removes heat from inside it's cabinet at -20c? It's exactly the same principle BUT mains gas is still cheaper to heat with.

    • @HEDST8
      @HEDST8 2 роки тому

      I meant when you need heat when its cold like minus temps which is lets face the whole point of heating isnt it. lol

  • @ItsWhatIDo
    @ItsWhatIDo 2 роки тому +1

    I'm not sure I would put heat directly into a bio filter. In my mind I think you could kill off some of the bacteria because of the extra heat in one area. I might be wrong and it not have any adverse effects but I don't run mine like that. I use an ASHP for my small pond. The water is filtered before it goes through the heater and then it is returned directly to the pond. Have you also thought about how you are going to cover the pond for winter? Heating without the covers will cost you a fortune and you will be throwing heat straight into the open air.

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому

      Yea I got a idea there but from what I have been told the heat in a bio is the best place tbh ? Beneficial bacteria loves heat but it’s only what I have been told

    • @lewisharrison6648
      @lewisharrison6648 2 роки тому +1

      As James said I've been told the same, thats why they recommend adding live bacteria during and after the cold months

    • @ItsWhatIDo
      @ItsWhatIDo 2 роки тому

      @@JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123 I've always thought that the bacteria does better in a stable temp. But as I said I could be wrong. It will be interesting in seeing how you get on with it.

  • @bezzaskoichannel3856
    @bezzaskoichannel3856 2 роки тому +2

    Hi mate…my guess is it’s gonna be expensive to have an inline heater, what ever way you look at it something needs to heat up the water, if it’s an element it’s gonna be a fortune…air source heat pump is the way to go and I reckon that space by your window will be fine, but what do i know 😂.
    Anyhow, how do I get my water bill really cheap? 😂

  • @gazzaw1980
    @gazzaw1980 2 роки тому

    I always wondered about this but a solar heater aspecially through the winter and not use it during the summer for it to over heat

    • @gazzaw1980
      @gazzaw1980 2 роки тому +1

      Check out solar water heater , once you have outland for the system it would be free heat, or youtube DIY water heaters

  • @PaulSmith-lx6xr
    @PaulSmith-lx6xr 2 роки тому +2

    I have no experience in heating a pond, but I would suggest its not a good idea to heat the water in the bio tank as the air pumps and the agitated water will cool what your heating. After the tank is a better option.

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому

      Na don’t think that makes a difference does it ?

    • @PaulSmith-lx6xr
      @PaulSmith-lx6xr 2 роки тому +2

      All I do know is I had a spa bath a few years ago and that used to make the water go cold real quick lol 😆

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +1

      @@PaulSmith-lx6xr fair point but I am not looking to hear like 38 lol hold 12/14 max

  • @CATANDEYEKOI
    @CATANDEYEKOI 2 роки тому +1

    Looking forward to the result of this conundrum mate. Stay safe

  • @neilbattman6923
    @neilbattman6923 2 роки тому +1

    Could you mount the heat pump on the rear of your shed into the alley and box it in for security etc…

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +1

      Did try just not enough room

    • @neilbattman6923
      @neilbattman6923 2 роки тому +1

      @@JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123 Dam but least your checking all options and knowing you… will get it bang on whatever you choose 👍🏻

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +1

      @@neilbattman6923 will try my best mate 😂😂

  • @edlesboroughkoipondstevech3546
    @edlesboroughkoipondstevech3546 2 роки тому +1

    Hi James, speaking with no experience whatsoever of heating a pond the inline heater looks good 🤓

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому

      It does look a nice pice of kit just got to clear it with the wife lol 😂

    • @edlesboroughkoipondstevech3546
      @edlesboroughkoipondstevech3546 2 роки тому

      My philosophy is it is always easier to say sorry after the event than to gain permission, what's a couple of nights in the dog house! If you get a mo can you give my channel a gander and subscribe please, just starting out ish, cheers

  • @progressivepondkeeping
    @progressivepondkeeping 2 роки тому +2

    You can use that lock inside the filter house to hide from the Mrs I think I'll fit one on my filter house 🤣👌

  • @stegee1
    @stegee1 2 роки тому

    have you watched gold divers & the simple way they heat water that they pump into their dive suits when diving in freezing cold water, might give you a cheapie way to do it???

  • @KoiPondLifestyle
    @KoiPondLifestyle 2 роки тому +1

    Very interested how your pond heating goes. Obviously going to cost no matter what you do but how much in the long run... I could eat one of those pasties right now.. I'll swap ya for a Bacon and Cheese Oatcake..😉👍

  • @willemvdeurzen9534
    @willemvdeurzen9534 2 роки тому

    Is it possible to put the ashp on the roof of your shed?

  • @gingertom64
    @gingertom64 2 роки тому +2

    For what it is worth. If you are going to heat the pond, then to get the total benefit from it. You will have to have a cover over the pond and insulation in front of the glass window. As otherwise you are just going to lose the majority of all the heat you put in to it.

  • @mackenziepm
    @mackenziepm 2 роки тому +1

    Nothing like a good crazy idea involving gas.

  • @UpNorthKoiPond
    @UpNorthKoiPond 2 роки тому +1

    Some good ideas James, looks as though the inline heat exchanger would be the best and neatest option. I considered using a gas boiler but I'd have had to upgrade the the gas pipe off the meter to 35mm through most of the house and run about 25m of pipe from the house and up the garden. Really depends on the length of the gas run but more than likely you'll need to upgrade the pipe from the gas meter if it hasn't been done already 👍

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +2

      Yea the plumber did say that to day so it could be a expensive job but we will see how it goes lol 😂

  • @ste187
    @ste187 2 роки тому +1

    Great video as always ... just one thing have you done something with your camera? Video seems really really bright and not much colour those koi look dull almost in the background and I know there bright and full of color

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +2

      Yea I am having trouble with this new iPhone 📱 13 it’s meant to be the top bollocks but the video quality on my phone and computer is brilliant after I upload to UA-cam the video quality goes downhill and I can’t work it out it is really pissing me of mate
      Sorry about this but I am trying to work out what it is mate
      Thanks on be truthful and let me know my video quality never used to be like this

    • @richardc1983
      @richardc1983 2 роки тому +1

      My tv converts it to HGR, everything looks amazing on your videos. It's the standadd UA-cam downgrading the quality. I use a special version of it on my firestick so get the full quality.

  • @frankiepitt9135
    @frankiepitt9135 2 роки тому

    There’s loads of room by your conservatory for a ASHP and you’ll have plenty of airflow around it.

  • @johnwaller5317
    @johnwaller5317 2 роки тому +1

    If you look at air con units they are all about 300mm of wall

  • @skaterguy52
    @skaterguy52 2 роки тому +1

    Solar water heater check it out. Put it on the roof of the pond

  • @Koi-nerds
    @Koi-nerds 2 роки тому +1

    use a heat exchage and a probe switch thats what i use

  • @claytongraves4610
    @claytongraves4610 2 роки тому +1

    Try koi zone in romford for a heat pump turbo 30

  • @yorkshirekoi2246
    @yorkshirekoi2246 2 роки тому +1

    Hi James have you considered solar panels run to battery's in filter house then heats up pond maybe some rhing in the skimmer it could be cheaper you could easily mount panels to the roof.

  • @billyrobertson9064
    @billyrobertson9064 2 роки тому +1

    What about a pool heater?

    • @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123
      @JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123  2 роки тому +1

      Been looking just working out how to fit it and Feed water to it and replace water to the pond

  • @mattredford6642
    @mattredford6642 2 роки тому

    We’re getting ripped off mate gas or electric!! But those pasty’s looked proper 😋👍🏻have ya got rid of covid now mate ?

  • @mackenziepm
    @mackenziepm 2 роки тому +1

    Perhaps going electric is the way, but to make the roof of the pond solar panels.

  • @BigGuyAl007
    @BigGuyAl007 2 роки тому +1

    I have a think James.
    Heat pump on the roof would work. No screws needed though 😆. I know what your like for screws! .
    Or in the plant room and cut out for it and box it in from the inside. It's just like a AC unit! 💡. Nice hone made pies and cider coming up! Yummy 😋

  • @brattfish
    @brattfish 2 роки тому +1

    Hi James good idea I think the red heat exchange in line sounds the best . And you can't really put a price on happiness

  • @kevinmoss8095
    @kevinmoss8095 2 роки тому +1

    Hi James
    Take this in to consideration that Gas Is only 90% efficient to an ASHP that is about 300% efficient I have just installed one to heat my home and its got my costs down. Thinking to get one for the pond next.
    Try a price off wrighty he deals in them.
    Kev Mossykoi

    • @richardc1983
      @richardc1983 2 роки тому

      If you have access to mains gas then the gas will be cheaper to heat with than the ASHP, ONLY because mains gas is cheaper per kwh of energy. The heat pump will do it more efficiently but electricity costs more and always will. Gas will always be cheaper. A unit of gas up here is 4p per kWh, a unit of electricity is about 18p. As you say the heat pump gives out upto 3x the heat for 1kwh energy input. If you use a modern gas boiler to produce that same 3kwh it's gonna cost about 12p.

  • @Stallion-Koi
    @Stallion-Koi 2 роки тому

    Price of energy is a joke not a good time to be in the koi hobby especially if your debating heating a large pond lol. Koi will do ok in insulated pond deep enough with ice breaker. Guess if u want to see them all year round lively that's a good thing but they must also have summer and winter period.

  • @bryanflaherty9516
    @bryanflaherty9516 2 роки тому +1

    thought you would have painted filter room door red to match in with the colour scheme 👍🏻

  • @shaunmiller291
    @shaunmiller291 2 роки тому +1

    Put the heat source on the roof James on rubber feet job done

  • @hakimvlogs6579
    @hakimvlogs6579 18 днів тому

    Tight😂

  • @tiroshanindika1777
    @tiroshanindika1777 2 роки тому

    😙😙

  • @inmotion81
    @inmotion81 2 роки тому +1

    Just let cheap 1kw heater inline there guy on UA-cam from over there who uses them he says they work great adam julyan is his UA-cam really good

  • @aaron1278
    @aaron1278 2 роки тому

    No point of being richest man in the graveyard!!!!

  • @stevecooper6653
    @stevecooper6653 2 роки тому +1

    IN ME OVER 😋😋😋🔨🔨🐇🐇

  • @jamesshamley6577
    @jamesshamley6577 2 роки тому

    Get a sturgeon