James Hoffmann Teaches Dan How to Brew and Drink Espresso | What's Eating Dan?

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • Brewing espresso at home can be fun and rewarding, but also quite complicated. Coffee expert, UA-camr, and author James Hoffmann is here to guide Dan through the process of brewing (including dose, ratio, grind size, temperature, pressure, and brew time) and drinking the best espresso.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 413

  • @internetshaquille
    @internetshaquille 3 роки тому +1562

    two absolute titans of their industries what a time to be alive

    • @tommy2capa
      @tommy2capa 3 роки тому +45

      OMFG NOW YOU'RE HERE TOO! I'M OVERWHELMED

    • @Yopperpo
      @Yopperpo 3 роки тому +19

      I love you dad

    • @AsianBM55
      @AsianBM55 3 роки тому +9

      I know I could not believe the thumbnail this morning. It’s like Dan and British Dan, or vice versa.

    • @Robinzorz
      @Robinzorz 3 роки тому +13

      Dude with you here it's like my holy Trinity of Food related UA-camrs!

    • @marvinloya5039
      @marvinloya5039 3 роки тому +7

      Absolutely loving that net shaq showed up

  • @Hoss1492
    @Hoss1492 3 роки тому +609

    When considering getting an espresso machine you must ask yourself, "do I want a cup of coffee or a new hobby"!?

    • @STEVEARABIA1
      @STEVEARABIA1 3 роки тому +19

      Exactly. It’s crazy how complicated it could get. I went with the more idiot proof auto type.

    • @lenabreijer1311
      @lenabreijer1311 3 роки тому +28

      And how much counter space do I want to sacrifice? After my espresso maker died after 6 months I went for a moka pot instead and claimed my counter back.

    • @derkaiserzen
      @derkaiserzen 3 роки тому +18

      The one wisdom that James teach me.
      I do LOVE coffee, But I'm too poor to have a new hobby right now

    • @TuliTheUnruly
      @TuliTheUnruly 3 роки тому +5

      Thank you for the reminder. I want to save money at the cafe, but not sure if I want to get so obsessive about another food.

    • @bolerkai
      @bolerkai 3 роки тому +3

      This, which is why I stick to our over, which is a bit less of a hobby - thanks to James.

  • @jacobprince6602
    @jacobprince6602 3 роки тому +232

    America’s test kitchen and James Hoffman combined… I have a feeling 2022 is gonna be my year.

    • @parker4544
      @parker4544 3 роки тому

      Same

    • @JohnCWannamaker
      @JohnCWannamaker 2 роки тому

      I mean depending on the kinda person you are... but I assume that since you like both these things (ATK and James Hoffman).. I am going to guess that this comment has aged poorly.

    • @robsmith5434
      @robsmith5434 2 роки тому

      Hope you had a great year!

  • @SchadenNZ
    @SchadenNZ 3 роки тому +58

    When you talked about loving crema I was surprised James didn't have anything to add. Then when we got to the final tip I smiled at his very British (diplomatic) "Crema is amazing, but try scooping it off" 😆 ☕

  • @bryanherr1093
    @bryanherr1093 3 роки тому +74

    A double dose of James this morning. Nice.

  • @breinich2
    @breinich2 3 роки тому +107

    What a morning treat: Dan, espresso, and James. Perfection

  • @adamb.4585
    @adamb.4585 3 роки тому +77

    These two dudes have contributed to my nerdy inhibitions for years its nice to see them together. Also, for the group $900 is how much the espresso machine costs the grinder is a little less.

  • @joconnell
    @joconnell 3 роки тому +16

    One thing of note in Dans process is that using a cake tester or something as thick, may end up causing more channels than it’s going to fix. If you go finer with the tool you use, you’ll get better results. Most folks are finding that 0.3mm needles are giving the best results, you can buy a cheap set of acupuncture needles and push them through a wine cork, or even just tie them to a wine cork so they’re spaced out, it’ll work really nicely! For anyone who hasn’t heard of this, it’s called “wdt” and some kinda thingy with needles is known as a wdt tool.

    • @SuZiKaT22
      @SuZiKaT22 3 роки тому +2

      Fascinating! Thanks, good tip!

  • @WhatsInAName222
    @WhatsInAName222 3 роки тому +108

    A match made in heaven. I love Dan and James’ videos and together they provide the perfect nerdgasm. Thanks guys!

  • @sirlord001
    @sirlord001 3 роки тому +24

    Oh goodness.... the collab I wanted is finally here!

  • @igglewiggle6649
    @igglewiggle6649 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Dan, thanks for inviting James Hoffmann …he always has knowledge to impart. La Pavoni, is a sight to behold!! What a beauty!!

  • @winanderson4143
    @winanderson4143 2 роки тому +3

    James Hoffman is a rock star!!! Still the best. His style, explanations, and common-sense statements perfectly fit this format. I watch almost all videos with James.

  • @simonsavelyev7399
    @simonsavelyev7399 3 роки тому +25

    Two giants at the top of their game! Love this episode

  • @STEVEARABIA1
    @STEVEARABIA1 3 роки тому +18

    The very first coffee drink I had that I liked was made by a coworker on a pavoni just like that. Before that I thought I hated coffee. I bought a Gaggia Berra after that and still use it daily. Changing this many variables might still be a bit overwhelming for me, but I found this video fascinating. Great work guys as always.

  • @shashwatasamanta7358
    @shashwatasamanta7358 3 роки тому +6

    The collab we all wanted!

  • @axem.8338
    @axem.8338 3 роки тому +31

    Dan and James, two of my favorites on UA-cam! Thanks for making this happen.

  • @angelal4285
    @angelal4285 3 роки тому +4

    My husband loves watching you both and when I told him there’s a UA-cam video with Dan and James about espresso, he said, oh they finally got together… I got to see this one!

  • @karenconger2224
    @karenconger2224 3 роки тому +29

    Two all time favorites together at last!

  • @ruthgrovecleaningwithwater
    @ruthgrovecleaningwithwater 3 роки тому +4

    This video accomplished three purposes: answered many of my questions, showed me how much I don’t know, and made me really want to have some RIGHT NOW!

  • @MrCthur
    @MrCthur 3 роки тому

    Thank you for collab'ing with James!

  • @Kmaaq
    @Kmaaq 3 роки тому +101

    James wants to flat out say that espresso without crema tastes better but is afraid of getting banished from the coffee community. 😂

  • @CUDA1970Terry
    @CUDA1970Terry 3 роки тому +1

    I went to a new espresso shop near where I worked and asked for an espresso, straight. I was handed a cup of liquid that was quite bitter. I mentioned to the woman that pulled the shot that it was bitter and she glared at me, put her hands on her hips and proclaimed that it was espresso, it was supposed to taste bitter. No one can argue with an expert, but I never returned to that coffee shop. One thing I have learned by watching James is that espresso Should taste sweet, not bitter. Thanks James.

    • @TuliTheUnruly
      @TuliTheUnruly 3 роки тому

      That's the quality that made me love espresso when I first tried it. It was sweeter and smoother than drip coffee. No coffee should only have bitter flavors.

    • @Ghorda9
      @Ghorda9 3 роки тому

      espresso also needs a light or medium roast, dark is too much.

  • @alejandrorequena7836
    @alejandrorequena7836 3 роки тому +8

    My two favorite food people. This deserves a coffee

  • @heididukes394
    @heididukes394 2 роки тому

    This way of discussing between 2 highly intelligent talented experts is very much appreciated. Thanks.

  • @waelkambris6188
    @waelkambris6188 3 роки тому +11

    Watching you and James together is the real treat. You guys are amazing.

  • @bogiesan
    @bogiesan 3 роки тому +2

    Terrific. Nice to see Mr Hoffman.

  • @jonathanromo2305
    @jonathanromo2305 3 роки тому +2

    There’s an added benefit to a lever style machine that adds a new variable. By increasing or decreasing the pressure you exert you can “profile” your espresso, essentially you can extract different flavors by pushing hard then letting the pressure decline at the end or starting slow and ramping up the pressure. It’s a feature that’s done with a small paddle on my Profitec and pricey slayer machines. It’s not necessary by any means but it opens you up to very different flavors with a simple pull of a lever c:

  • @petersarubbi
    @petersarubbi 5 місяців тому

    Biggest takeaway and why I love James... enjoy what you enjoy... there shouldn't be rules around food and drink... what tastes good to you is subjective... if you like black coffee then that's great... but if your best friend or spouse likes coffee with half a cup of cream and 5 sugars then that's what they like... you can still enjoy coffee together... that's what it's about... the shared experience 😊💙
    That being said... as a Chef if you order your prime steak well done with A-1 on the side I'll make sure my team prepares it exactly to your liking but we will talk about you in the kitchen and question your reasoning 😆

  • @redoorn
    @redoorn Рік тому

    it is this video that introduced me to James.
    he has upped my coffee game by orders of magnitude

  • @beyproctor7673
    @beyproctor7673 2 роки тому

    Awesome video. I love coffee and espresso but it took me 50 years to get an espresso machine in my house. Of all the ways to enjoy coffee I love espresso the most. SO rewarding making a cappuccino at home! Thank you for this overview video to remind me how to easily balance the variables and spend as much energy enjoying a shot as I do brewing one.

  • @lyledal
    @lyledal 3 роки тому

    The collab I've been waiting for!!!

  • @lesliedausey
    @lesliedausey 2 роки тому +1

    I just started applying the temp principle discussed for my French press coffee. It's amazing that a few degrees can make such a difference!

  • @mickreynolds3065
    @mickreynolds3065 3 роки тому +20

    Finally! I've been waiting for "foodies" to embrace 3rd wave coffee for what seems like forever, instead of treating it like a complete afterthought. What a great synergy!

  • @Tenelia
    @Tenelia 3 роки тому +1

    FINALLY. OUR FAV GEEKS OMG

  • @brujamalvada
    @brujamalvada 3 роки тому +2

    I can't believe this video is real! Dan and James together is THE dream :)

  • @mich8261
    @mich8261 3 роки тому +1

    I love when two UA-camrs I follow have a collab. I get excited like when Mork showed up on Happy Days

  • @novanorman1091
    @novanorman1091 3 роки тому +3

    Very helpful collaboration! Thanks ☕️

  • @espressosensei
    @espressosensei 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for sharing this trove of actionable advice! Sadly the review linked hasn't been updated since 2017. There's been a tremendous amount of innovation in the under $500 category these past 5 yrs, and your viewers just getting into home brewing would benefit greatly to know about. Keep up the great work, and please more coffee!!

  • @heidicooper7912
    @heidicooper7912 3 роки тому +2

    Love James. His channel is so informative.

  • @AndyMelton
    @AndyMelton 3 роки тому +1

    DAN! AND JAMES! IN A SINGLE VIDEO! OH. MY. GOD! This is a dream come true! Fantastic video! I watched this last night and this morning I was tempted to scrape off the crema before turning my espresso into an Americano, but I couldn't bring myself to do it! Maybe tomorrow!

  • @mendonesiac
    @mendonesiac 2 роки тому +1

    I'm impressed with James's knowledge, and his hair

  • @aritrabanerjee6186
    @aritrabanerjee6186 3 роки тому +2

    Sipping an instant coffee mixed with hot water and wondering where my beloved tea is. Good work Dan.

  • @thermalegoogle
    @thermalegoogle 3 роки тому +4

    That tiny strand of hair standing up on the back of James' head is ADORABLE

    • @masstwitter4748
      @masstwitter4748 3 роки тому

      Once I noticed it, I couldn’t not notice it!

  • @mitchellhilbert8874
    @mitchellhilbert8874 3 роки тому

    So happy to see this collaboration!!

  • @sarahdeschene3152
    @sarahdeschene3152 3 роки тому

    A dream video, ATK’s Dan meets James Hoffmann. Thank you Dan and James!

  • @ellagreen4336
    @ellagreen4336 3 роки тому

    Holy cow! THANK YOU James & Dan! ♥♥♥

  • @Margo5050
    @Margo5050 3 роки тому

    Two guys who are enjoyable and logical. Thank you.

  • @lissyniña
    @lissyniña 2 роки тому +1

    Cuban here, you've never had great espresso until you Make some through What I call the sock method.. Boiling the coffee sugar and water together until it almost boils and straining it through a cloth strainer nothing like it!

  • @Starnoxiar
    @Starnoxiar 3 роки тому +3

    Great video! I liked the conversation style to deliver information.

  • @newmennium
    @newmennium 3 роки тому

    World's are colliding!! Love James Hoffman and his channel

  • @CanadianLumber
    @CanadianLumber 3 роки тому

    Seriously, I love James and the fact you brought him into your show amazballz!

  • @heathers.6424
    @heathers.6424 3 роки тому

    James Hoffman , I clicked so fast. I love him. Thrilled to see him working with ATK

  • @elizabethshaw734
    @elizabethshaw734 2 роки тому

    When I lived in England I met James a couple of times. He cares about coffee as much as America and Italy combined! :-)

  • @Khristafer
    @Khristafer 3 роки тому +1

    The collab that I didn't know I needed.

  • @gloriouslyimperfect
    @gloriouslyimperfect 3 роки тому

    The collab of two legends I didn’t even know I needed

  • @1gaurav001
    @1gaurav001 3 роки тому +2

    I binge watch both these UA-camrs religiously. Had to rub my eyes when I saw this thumbnail. 😂 MCU step aside, the greatest crossover ever is here.

  • @dadegroot
    @dadegroot 2 роки тому +1

    I have a small tip for the La Pavoni. Raise the lever most of the way before you lock in the portafilter. This way you're not sucking air through the puck as you raise the lever and potentially creating channels before you've even started. (yes, it is entirely possible to not get channels while raising the lever, but this method takes that variable out of the equation).

  • @_DMW
    @_DMW 3 роки тому

    O.M.G. When my two worlds come together! Holy Ish!!!!!!!! Two of my favorite dudes!

  • @brendanleadbeater9400
    @brendanleadbeater9400 3 роки тому

    I gave this a try and was pleasantly surprised. I will be doing this from now on as it indeed does have a massive effect on the taste. After removing the crema, I throw in some MCT oil to increase the thickness/body/creaminess you lose when removing the crema... it's worth giving it a try.

  • @HTMLguruLady2
    @HTMLguruLady2 2 роки тому

    I love james. He's awesome. I've been watching his channel for a long long time.

  • @losergrad
    @losergrad 3 роки тому +4

    I love what's eating Dan. Do one on Szechuan peppercorns, please.

  • @user-ty5fp7vx1u
    @user-ty5fp7vx1u 2 роки тому

    I was absolutely salivating from beginning to end. Can't wait to make my next 'spresso!

  • @jeffr7558
    @jeffr7558 3 роки тому

    Just wanna say this was great! Love the collaboration between 2 such highly revered voices. Keep em coming!

  • @PhaTs00p
    @PhaTs00p Рік тому

    Biggest improvement in preventing channeling has actually been a very cheap puck screen over the bed. I use a relatively cheap machine and basket and all the puck preparation in the world couldn't get rid of channeling reliably. The puck screen really made a difference and only cost a couple bucks unlike most other coffee gadgets.

  • @Naegimaggu
    @Naegimaggu 2 роки тому

    18:12 ”Lost in the variables dream” Love it! I can so relate with that way of enjoying my coffee, it’s like half-hedonism half-diagnostics, even if it’s a perfectly good cup. :D

  • @ThisThingGoesFaster
    @ThisThingGoesFaster 2 роки тому

    Barrington Coffee is top notch, I first got wind of them because of coffee stouts from Trillium, but Exhibit A Brewing's Sunday Paper is is my favorite coffee stout out there, and the Barrington Coffee is a major contributor to this awesome brew. Great video, and James is the best, as always.

  • @brendashope9242
    @brendashope9242 3 роки тому

    This was bliss to watch. Two of my favorites

  • @seroun17
    @seroun17 3 роки тому

    Best episode yet. I learned so much. Thank you both.

  • @Djpauly_bobo
    @Djpauly_bobo 3 роки тому

    Haven't watched yet but this is a collab the world deserves.

  • @jvallas
    @jvallas 2 роки тому

    Honest to goodness, I watchEd what you went through just to make that dinky little cup of espresso, and my first thought was, ‘I’d rather spend the time learning bookbinding.” Not sure what about that machine made me think of bookbinding, but I definitely think I’m sticking to coffee. However, what a thorough and fascinating video from you both.

  • @meizhou9279
    @meizhou9279 3 роки тому

    Awesome collab! James’ expertise filtered through Dan’s chill energy! ☕️

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 3 роки тому +4

    Such fun to see a new episode from ‘What’s Eating Dan?’ 👏🏽

  • @markjthomson
    @markjthomson 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely done - love the La Pavoni... had mine for 3 years... dark roast, 14gm... NDT and leveler have improved my puck game... and so nice! Naked porta filter... all the way!

  • @maryjanekolesar8325
    @maryjanekolesar8325 2 роки тому

    Best explanation ever! Thank you.

  • @SpencerDonahue
    @SpencerDonahue 3 роки тому +1

    James is taking over youtube

  • @etpe4830
    @etpe4830 3 роки тому

    love this, everything I learned and forgot over years of James' videos is all summed up in here.

  • @m3tek44
    @m3tek44 3 роки тому

    Wow!!! You have explained espresso grind/over extraction very well!!! thank you!

  • @BobMacNeal
    @BobMacNeal 3 роки тому

    James is the go-to expert amongst aficionados. I've got a signed copy his World Atlas of Coffee sitting on my coffee table.☕

  • @just1sheep
    @just1sheep 3 роки тому

    Love seeing the La Pavoni on here. I'm a 3-times-a-day la pavoni person. It's truly the best item in my kitchen

  • @scottydoggymama
    @scottydoggymama 3 роки тому

    Now this was a video worth making, love Dan and James is my coffee god, he makes me wanna up my coffee game after every video I watch

  • @ellwitz9838
    @ellwitz9838 3 роки тому

    First the new York Times, now ATK. 2022 is The Year of James Hoffman, even more people will be nerding out on their coffee

  • @microtasker
    @microtasker 3 роки тому

    James God-ing things up as usual. I watch as many of his videos as I do of you guys. Standards are good to have.

  • @clericneokun
    @clericneokun 3 роки тому

    Good choice in picking a direct lever machine. Contrary to popular belief, a direct lever machine in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing is actually way more versatile and forgiving than a semi auto. The amount of pressure control you have in a lever machine gives you so much more options to avoid channeling and also achieve optimal extraction.

  • @igottmituns
    @igottmituns 3 роки тому

    Great video. I'll add that James' videos on espresso dialing are a great next step for anyone interested to go from here. Nice collab! Subbed!

  • @Space-O-2001
    @Space-O-2001 2 роки тому

    Great video, good starter pointers presented clearly and succinctly!

  • @musiloko787
    @musiloko787 3 роки тому

    This collaboration was amazing!!! I would love to see more video collabs with James

  • @shanewilson2152
    @shanewilson2152 3 роки тому +1

    Really enjoyed your video

  • @jerrysmith3515
    @jerrysmith3515 3 роки тому

    Dan,
    I want to thank you very much for this video. I didn't know anything about espresso until I watched your video. I may even go out and buy one.
    Thanks

  • @gitsini
    @gitsini 3 роки тому +13

    I love how the fewer the ingredients, the more you the technique can totally change the result. I really enjoyed how systematically you went through them all. So good!
    p.s. is this how metric creep starts?

    • @ItumelengS
      @ItumelengS 3 роки тому +1

      Mmm yes that's how the metric wormhole is opened up, the need to get more reproducible results and maybe even refine the last cup

  • @vraymond108
    @vraymond108 3 роки тому +1

    Great video!

  • @charlestwoo
    @charlestwoo 3 роки тому

    Fantastic and surprising collab!

  • @wlmontag
    @wlmontag 3 роки тому

    What a great combination. I hope you do more videos together. Really enjoyed it!

  • @hoilst265
    @hoilst265 3 роки тому

    BEST. CROSSOVER. EPISODE. EVER.

  • @richhansen8617
    @richhansen8617 Рік тому

    Great collaboration!

  • @TheMrbonkers115
    @TheMrbonkers115 3 роки тому +2

    I have never clicked a video faster

  • @ib8543
    @ib8543 2 роки тому

    This video has everything I needed to know to up my espresso brewing game. Thanks 🙏🏽

  • @magdalenabresson8308
    @magdalenabresson8308 3 роки тому

    I love Espresso, and now I love it even more!

  • @michaelarighi5268
    @michaelarighi5268 3 роки тому

    As a long-time (nearly 60 years) eSpresso drinker and fairly-recent La Pavoni owner and James Hoffman fan, I've spent quite a bit of time trolling the Internet for hints on improving my shots with the La Pavoni. One easy tweak I've found, which I noticed you didn't do, Dan, is to only gently insert my portafilter before raising the handle, then locking it in place only when the lever is about to the point where water is released into the grouphead. The reason for doing this is that you're creating some vacuum as you raise the piston in the cylinder with the lever. If you're locked down when you do that, the pressure will have to equalize by pulling air up through the portafilter, disrupting your carefully-prepared puck and increasing the likelihood of channeling. I've had more consistent success since doing this. However, be SURE to lock in the portafilter before water is released into the grouphead, or you'll have a bit of a mess to clean up (speaking from experience).😂

    • @Ghorda9
      @Ghorda9 3 роки тому

      you also have the risk of damaging the seal around the edge of the puck when you knock it.

  • @dianeneigebauer1036
    @dianeneigebauer1036 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, James Hoffmann on ATK, what a pleasant surprise!

  • @homeworld1031tx
    @homeworld1031tx 3 роки тому

    Really great video, glad it came out as I'm about to get a machine!