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Nobody will be good enough to come close to Tom Brady; he was 1-of-1 - Skip I NFL I UNDISPUTED
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- Tom Brady leaves behind an incredible legacy, retiring with more Super Bowl wins than any other entire NFL franchise. In five of those games, he was named Super Bowl MVP to go along with three regular season MVPs, and making two separate all-decade teams. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe discuss how difficult it'll be for any of today's quarterbacks to come close to what Brady achieved.
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Even more impressive and accurate... Brady's first 4 years starting, he was 9-0 with 3 Superbowls and 2 Superbowl MVPs.
Skip always talks about them cowgirls and y is Dak on there he won't ever win a champ facts that's stupid always talking bout the same team every time
Just to make these clear PM only has 1 super bowl ring
Michael Vick best QB of all time
He was a beast in a dome stadium, he was a beast in freezing temps and a beast in a snow storm. He was difficult to sack and had quick feet. He started as a game manager to going toe to toe with peyton manning and beyond. He's the goku of the NFL. The best.
Skip Just will continue to talk till he's blue in the face ... and be dilusional on this issue:
- The reality is Mahomes has done things the past 4 or 5 years for MULTIPLE years that Brady did not even do ONCE in his 1st 5 seasons.
1. Mahomes just had an "off year" with 37 TDs. Not once did Brady have a 30 TD season his first 5 years.
2. Mahomes had a 50 TD season his MVP year a few seasons ago
3. Mahomes has had more than three 30 TD seasons already...
- You give guys like Mahomes, Russ Wilson, DeShaun Watson (assuming he comes back and has another 15 years or more in his career)..... and with the rules of today, they will break Brady's, Brees', Peyton's Records in 15 or more years.
Thats' just the honest truth...
You give Mahomes a coach / GM like Belichick..... they will tally up Super Bowls that will make Brady worshippers go silent or even cry.
Again Look at Mahomes as an example. And what Pat & Josh Allen just did in the playuffs a few weeks ago....
Brady is a great winner..... he wasn't even the best QB to ever play football.
All this "Greatest Athlete in any sport " talk is just journalists going nuts/ creating clickbait on a slow winter news day.
@@MrLarryLessor The second half of your comment is all hypothetic. No one cares about Mahomes stats when he's choking. Try again. "With the rules of today" It's EASIER to play QB. They certainly aren't better than those guys.
@@MrLarryLessor give Brady the offensive talent mahomes has not to mention chiefs also had a fire defense up until the past couple years stop
@@MrLarryLessor Mahomes is the perfect example of a person that does too much to get the same result as a person who does way less but smarter. Give me the guy who punches you straight in the mouth instead of the guy who does all the fancy karate moves just to throw 1 strike. More importantly brady after 3 superbowls was every teams boss fight. He became the shao kahn of the nfl. This means he was getting everyone's best. Whether if it was bad team or good team. This also means he was getting the best from the legendary ravens defense, steelers all the way to the dolphins and Broncos. Oh by the way brady did play in that era of ground and pound and physical defenses. So dont show me stats about mahomes doing anything in a pass happy league with now 17 games in a season with better weapons. Brady put up numbers at 44 in this same pass happy era . He was dominant before this and when he got weapons with randy moss he lit up the league. It wasn't until the year after he got hit they changed the rules. Stats dont tell the whole story. Oh by the way, mahomes had help from a fan 3 years ago when they pointed a laser into bradys eyes in the playoffs and the chiefs still lost lmao.
@@gomesy32 chiefs defense fire?? no bro
I LOVE the fact that Shannon was a proven winner. It makes everything he say so much more meaningful than most the talking heads on these shows
*Everything he says about the tight-end position in football is meaningful.
B aight
@Avatar The Last Qùeefbender I don’t know how liking LeBron is a negative, but Skip pining to get dogwalked by Jordan is acceptable.
@@chairmanoftheboard11 nah Shady got it right the first time
That’s why Skip wanted him
Who put Dak on the image 😂😂😂
Surprised skip didn’t put lebron on their
You know Shannon did, cause Dak never gonna get close to Brady.
Replace Joe Burrow with Lebron and it's this shows favorite topics
U kno skip did it 😂💀
@@chengsullivan977 ikr its so cringe
The question mark with all these young QBs is how they do with the second iteration of their team i.e when they lose their current stars and have to compete with guys who weren’t picked at the top of each round of the draft. Particularly with Mahones when he eventually loses Kelce and then Hill. Look at Wilson, great player, very little success after that first team and there are countless other examples
This is such a good point. For a player to be great they have to adjust to whatever situation is at hand and still find a way to win. Brady did that numerous times. It'll be fun to see what these guys are able to do as well.
That’s why Brady is the best and will stand the test of time being the best
this is a great point. we have not seen what these young QBs can do with less. Brady was known for winning with less.
very, very true. brees, eli, rodgers, wilson, ben. all won rings for sure but only 1 or 2 and none late in their career. I think lots of these qbs will do the same though. burrow might win one ring now, mahomes already has one, and allen/herbert/jackson all could possibly win a ring as well. its just not clear who will win another later in their career, although burrow or mahomes are the most likely answer (AS OF NOW) considering they are the only ones to actually make it to a super bowl. allen I can see making it soon though. herbert and lamar need new OC’s that don’t hold them back as well as good defenses, and they too could probably make it.
once mahomes cap hit comes we will see how many opportunities he will have to even win a superbowl. I dont see anyone coming close to brady just because no team will come close to what the patriots did.
Brady was in the NFL 22 seasons, didn't play rookie year and 2008 played one quarter of football, so 20 healthy starting seasons, 10 super bowls, so 50% of the time Brady is in the super bowl.
If someone wrote this about Montana, you would steal the comment and posted just for likes, even if it means contradicting yourself.
@@stunner1622 trust me this guy has a full time job of writing 30 comments whenever undisputed releases a video hoping for likes.
@@flexermc4333 are you serious though 🤔🤔
He didn't play the whole 1st quarter in 2008. He only played like 2 series and went down with half of the quarter still remaining.
@@jahvonpalmer6775 Cassell came in with 90 seconds left in the 1stQ
To put into perspective how unbreakable Tom Bradys 7 titles are, keep these in mind.
Tom has been to 10 super bowls the guy in second Elway went to 5. 3 before the cap era.
Tom has won 7, Montana and Bradshaw have 4 each as runner ups. They did it before the cap and only went to 4.
In the cap era Brady, Elway, Big Ben, and the Manning Bros are the only qbs to win more than once. The latter guys all won twice.
All due respect to all the bright up and coming qbs. Tom is the mountain whos shadow you will never escape.
Yeah Shoutout to a coach with the ethics to videotape the opposing teams' sidelines for bwady boy so he didnt have to worry his pretty little head. Unmatchable mountain of cheaterships, indeed.
@@pretzelhunt videotaping opposing teams is not illegal in the nfl and every team does it, its why you hear players and coaches talk about film study.
Spygate was about a filming location, and actually violated no rules at the time. Just went against a memo.
The one against the 1-12 Bungles at that point was people not on team staff.
@@Bu11yMagu1re Right; and massages arent against the rules, until they are.
Sloppy ethics are the only reason he's in the position he is, and this accoladed windfall is a clear example of that. No hating; just obvious, unignorable evidence he gained substantially from those tactics and that kind of cheating (however you rationalize it to be a non-Patriot employee-- it's called a contractor, and was still clearly against ethical sportsmanship)
@@pretzelhunt The Jets went unpunished for filming from the wrong location in 2006 a year before spygate. The Anderson memo wasnt a rule.
And the whole filming the Bungles, it was for a docu series. And its nothing that millions of people cant get on their tvs.
@@pretzelhunt and why would they film a 1-12 team instead of the Ravens or Chiefs at that time the best teams in the AFC.
Mahomes is on the Russel Wilson trajectory
BRO! I've been trying to figure out a comparison and couldn't. This is the one!
..or Peyton Manning
How? Wilson wasn’t the reason they were going to the Superbowls though it was the LOB
Russel Wilson or Aaron Rodgers trajectory, maybe Peyton where he wins 2 rings but that’s about it
The difference is, Wilson wasn't a star and the reason his team was winning so much when he first started. Mahomes is the reason the chiefs are so good, he's not being carried by an all time great defense and a great rb
Another reason Brady is the GOAT: Belichick is 67-78 in the regular season when TB12 was not his starting QB and 1-2 in the post-season. When TB12 was his starting QB he 222-65 in the regular season and 30-11 in the post-season.
Another reason Brady is the GOAT: Look at the Buccaneers 13 consecutive non-playoff seasons before he arrived and watch them fade into oblivion & irrelevancy now that he's gone.
@@jamesage24 you could make a very similar argument for Peyton.
@@jamesage24 let's be fair to Tampa they were stacked offensively with a defense that was better than most think, but had a qb that threw the ball to the opposing team as often as his own. Like it's still impressive what Brady did, but give Tampa credit they were really only a good qb away the season before Brady got there.
@@bigballerj1911 except Peyton has 2 rings. 2. And one of those he played atrocious
@@quentinwagner8221 they were 7-9 the year before. Weapons doesn’t mean you win.
Brady also overcame some real tough defenses in the Playoffs over the years wether it be Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Seattle and more recently Jacksonville & LA Rams in the Super Bowl. Denver and the Giants were the ones to hold him in check from a defensive standpoint.
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Great point my man. Not too many people give Brady credit for that. Usually all you ever hear is how great the Pats defenses were .. so many fail to mention that he had to go up against some of the best defenses of all time over the years like you mentioned.. and that his defenses were usually good but they tended to choke in the bigger games, and allow easy gimmie points or plays at the worst time.. examples would be 07 SB v Giants, 17 SB v Eagles, 06 AFC Title v Colts...
Against the #1 D (scoring ) Brady was 16-4 with 40 TD / 10 INT. 2nd place all time is Warren Moon at a mere 5-5. Against the #1 total D (scoring and yards) he was 7-0 (including 4-0 in the playoffs ). Dominant, even vs the best D’s
Rams didn't have a great defence in 2018. Tbh look at the defences Manning had to play in the playoffs compared to his own team's. The Pats defence was always eye to eye with the best. Excluding 2011 and 2005.
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Brady was also undefeated against both Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers in the playoffs. Not to mention Kurt Warner, Russell Wilson, and Patrick Mahomes (all of whom would have had multiple Super Bowls if it wasn't for Brady).
it's crazy to think all those players would've been 2 time winning QBs if it wasn't for Brady the only ones that can say they own Brady are Eli Manning and Nick Foles.
@@kmena05 I mean, Nick Foles doesn't really make sense. Brady threw for over 500 yds and I believe 3TDs in that Superbowl. He did everything he could to win. His defense just was so so so bad that he had to score every drive.
Brady doesnt play defense though.. Tampa defense won that game against the chiefs horrible oline / Mahommes. Infact their defense won many of them superbowls he is credited with winning. Thats the difference with him and Mahommes if you ask me. Mahommes tries to put the team on his back because the defense isnt good enough. Therefore expected to do more than most other qbs every week.
The perfect storm narrative is BS. At the time Brady took over, the team started 0-2 and was 5-11 the season before. BB was about to be fired. The reason they lasted 20 years was because they kept winning once Brady started. How many QBs would be able to deal with BB coaching style for twenty years? Compare that to Rodgers inheriting a 13-3 team and Mahomes a team that went to the playoffs the previous years. BB did not have the reputation that he has now when Brady first started. McCarthy and Reid had much better resumes and reputations than BB when Rodgers and Mahomes first took over for their teams. This narrative the Brady was put in an ideal situation is not true. The only thing you can argue was that Brady was fortunate that Bledsoe got hurt when he did to open the door for him starting.
Well, it was ideal in the sense that the team was built to be a running and defense team, so it took pressure off of Brady during the most important years in his NFL development. It might not have been a juggernaut, but it was a very good situation to be put in.
@@tommydevine9993 So was Mahomes
@@tommydevine9993 No QB came into the NFL with a better chance to succeed than Dan Marino did as a rookie. He was drafted by a team that had just played in the Superbowl. They were #1 in PPG allowed on defense, their RBs had over 2k yards rushing, and they had the best coach in the NFL in Don Shula. Dan Marino was drafted by the defending AFC champions and he never made them any better than that. In fact he only got them back where they were without him once in 17 seasons.
There will never ever be anyone who will accomplish what Brady has in the NFL. Ever. And it isn’t just what he did but the manner in which he did it. Dramatic Super Bowl comebacks, shattering records, 22 years as a QB, winning superbowls with guys who weren’t household names. Just incredible.
Exactly, he made superstars out of Welker, Amendola, and the bearded little guy, what's his name?
Would those recievers be as good without BRADY?
Just imagine if he had a guy like moss for half his career… young and Montana had their numbers inflated with all time great receivers. Brady made nobodies into pro bowlers. Who knew who hogan was until Brady was dropping dimes to him?
Let’s all acknowledge the fact that none of these young quarterbacks will probably ever play against the level of defense that Brady played against. Baltimore with Suggs reed and Lewis…. Pittsburgh with Polamalu and his riders. Seattle and legion of boom… giants with freaking 3 hall of fame defensive lineman hunting you down. So many other teams I could mention that are ten times better then any of the defenses mahomes burrow or Allen will ever face.
Sacksonville for that one year they were relevant 😂
@@tommydevine9993 seriously! That team had all its superstars picked clean from it.
Those Baltimore Defenses would EAT EAT EAT this version of the NFL. With Ray lewis, T-Sizzle, Ngata, Reed, those were some DOGS.
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 they physically haunt my memories as a New England fan. That era of baltimore was sooo fun to watch
That’s basically saying they’ll never be any more NFL players that you think we’re as good as NFL players in the past. That’s ridiculous.
Coming from a cowboys fan, why is dak on that graphic?? 😂😂
Lmaooo
I'm glad a cowboy fan said the same thing so everyone doesn't say I'm a hater
Finally someone said it, was looking for this comment, if anything it should be Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen smh lol
Like Nick Wright has said after he won the Super Bowl with the Bucs: "Brady now has had 3 separate HOF careers". Enough said
He’s absolutely right. Nobody is touching Tom. What’s the next greatest QB? Aaron? If Tom is a 100, Aaron is a 70, and everyone else is below him. The entire sports world knows it but will try to dispute it because of deflategate. NOBODY has ever done what Tom Brady has done for his sport.
@@raken79q Facts. Brady > Montana >> Rodgers; MJ > Kobe > Lebron
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Kobe is nowhere near Jordan
@@raken79q Agreed but bad example with Lebron. He's been to multiple finals, lost more than he won but still won multiple times and came back down 3-1. Rodgers choked too much and only has 1 superbowl to show for it.
Agree
@@melvynsngltn27 Kobe is the best comparison for Jordan
One other thing to note, Brady, the 199th pick in the 2000 draft, was the last player remaining for the last 3 years. Crazy. You'll never see a draft pick that late lasting that long either.
You'll never see a #1 Draft pick lasting that long neither.....
Maybe kickers but that's it
Shannon: "we took for granted for Tom was doing while he was doing it"
watch it going to be the same thing in the next 3 yrs once LeBron retires
@@ben_jeru no one cares about lefraud, fanboy.
@@SeedTheAvocado black power 🏴
Bron>brady
@@iwiwwh2002 ah the race card very original haha
@@iwiwwh2002 lol Brady > bron anyday 🤣🤣🤣 bron got a losing record in the finals
Crazy that TB12 was better than the era before him, during him and as of this last season, the one after him. The generation after this current one might produce another TB12, but no one playing right now has a shot at being better than him
Intangibles were off the chart w Tom . Thats what seperated him from everyone. He is a leader.
The fact Dan Marino is still top 10 in passing yards is incredible. The rest of the list is full of guys who defined the last two decades of QB play.
Yeah he was a true pioneer.
Dan Marino his48TD pass is Better than Peyton Manning's 55TD pass Record!
@@RaineriHakkarainen 100%
Marino 1984 is the GOAT passing season. Ahead of its time.
@@RaineriHakkarainen Well that or Brady in 07/08 (higher QBR than Manning in 2013!).
I don't like absolutes like "never", but it is incredibly hard to see anyone eclipsing all of Brady's records. It may be closer than people think as advances in health/fitness keep QBs playing longer, but Brady just left too much to overcome.
The crazy thing is that Brady could've played another 3 years if he wanted, barring a major injury, not like he was washed up.
No way. It was lightning in a bottle. Kraft as the owner, the greatest defensive mind protecting the other side of the ball, and a QB with a relentless desire to win at all costs, including passing on millions to better his team.
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me to see his records broken. With an extra game, a pass-friendly rulebook, and these young guys taking more risks downfield against handicapped defenses, we've already seen guys like Mahomes, Dak, and Herbert throw for over 5k yards. With rules designed to protect QBs, the likelihood of these guys all having long careers is increased, giving them more opportunity to rack up stats. It makes a lot of sense that the great ones like Mahomes could and may very well surpass Brady's passing stats at some point.
Now passing Brady on this rings is another story... I don't expect that one to be broken for a very long time or ever unless the parity rules are completely thrown out...
I can see his stats records being broken. But his superbowls would be shocking.
Stats yes but I'm 99.9999% sure nobody will ever win 7 rings
Man im gonna miss seeing Tom play 😔
This makes me sad.
Somebody pass this crybaby some tissue.. What a wimp!
@@yo3rdtier128 it's okay to cry.
We’re all gonna miss Tom Brady, even had haters will miss Tom Brady, the NFL will never be the same
Brady at the end of career had to duel against Mahomes in his prime, if Brady had lost their two playoff matchups (AFC Championship, and SuperBowl), they would be 5 - 3 in superbowl rings which would give Mahomes a chance to tie and exceed him. Yes, it's a team game, but still quite an accomplishment for Brady to defeat his last great rival.
It is a team game, which makes Brady that much more special. Mahomes is part of a three man show. Give him Edelman, Amendola, and Gronk and see if he does as well. Or a Troy Brown, and that crew, or you pick the three. The only totally lights out receiver he ever had was Moss
Mahomes isn’t in his prime, he’s at the beginning of his career
@@michaelclark1811 mahomes is in his prime for the way he plays
@@colehall2209 that just speaks to how good he is already. I don't think we've seen the best of Mahomes yet. Brady didn't really hit his prime until his 30s, starting with that 2007 season
@@michaelclark1811 Prime Mahomes is already what you see. He is impatient, stubborn, and not cerebral, only flashy.
Good analogy with federer , nadal and djockvic but the old adage iron sharpens iron they pushed each other to another level brady competion pushed him to the undisputed GOAT level now
I'm 72yo, given my time left I will never see another QB that comes close to TB12. 😆 🤣
A 2 year old will never see it. Don’t worry.
Greatest of all time.
No one will ever touch his numbers or records post season or regular season.
I don’t have a house but if I did i would bet the whole house on it! I’ve bet my money many times to double or triple on Brady & 9-10 times he delivered. No better odds.
Goat.
Another reason why he is THE GOAT is he is a Survivor!
While Every other QB wants to go out doing what they want. Brady is humble enough to do whats best to Survive and Win the Game. Thats y he played til 44! And could of kept going. He ate right. He never got tired of doing the necessary things
@@JOHN-zl5kw exactly he plays to the teams strengths so like in the rams sb and his first sb he knew the teams strength was defense he made sure he did his part no mistakes or turnovers and when it was time for the dagger he flipped the switch on scored whatever was needed and won
I made sure i didnt take brady for granted, even when he went against bad teams i would watch the game
It's crazy how clutch Flacco was in playoffs and mediocre in regular season. I honestly think that hit by Kiko Alonso ruined him.
I tend forget that happened.
Why I loved Flacco and considered him the best of that draft over Matt Ryan
Flacco was mediocre long before that hit. He nearly lost his job the year they won the SB. If not for the SB win, Flacco likely would've been on the bench games earlier.
@@tommydevine9993 his playoff record wasn't mediocre though. His stats were goat level for a minute
The one thing they forgot to mention is Brady did whatever it took to win even that meant he threw no td and just handed the ball off. When it comes to personal stats they are not up at the top of each category except the most important stat of all SB Rings who else can say that ?? Bree's , Rodgers all about personal stats and 2 ring to show for it.
He also Was the least selfish qb ever, always giving up money
So brady faced Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Kurt Warner, all sure fire hall of famers. On top of very good QBs and MVPs like Russell Wilson, Donovan McNabb, Cam Newton, Michael Vick, Matt Ryan, Steve McNair, Carson Palmer, Patrick Mahomes among others.
And lost to Heinicke :) More of a testament to Heinicke than anything else, he showed up.
Brees has a winning record against Brady. Js
He also owned Andrew Luck who won an MVP as well
@@maskcollector6949 lmao brady loses to teams with dweeb quarterbacks. Mark Sanchez, eli, foles, flaco, heinicke and even to that qb that replaced winston after he got hurt in the saints game this season. Its weird
@@lloydbonafide3398 yeah I just looked it up and Brady is 6-5 against Ryan Tannehill 😂😂 it’s crazy
Im gonna miss Brady
It was Tom. It was always Tom.
Finally!Someone speaking truthfully.
Injuries,Coaching changes,Player contracts,The bounce of the football makes what Tom Brady did improbable to duplicate or ever repeat.Not to mention these mobile QB'S eventually become pocket passers because of head injuries and too many hits from running.And that changes their game and they aren't as dynamic in the pocket.Mahomes last year could barely stand up from a hit.Go back to Steve Young,when he took that hit to his head.
Exactly, It’s fine to say Brady is the Goat but the way media talks as if he’s not also the luckiest QB ever and act like he won all those games by himself. Two things can be true
@@RealRap619 someday you will figure it out
@@KyleJBales Already have, I actually analyze the game of football not just what the Qb does. Can’t say it’s the ultimate TEAM game and then turn around and talk about one player or one position. The media does that cause they have to keep people interested and most casual fans only care about the QB. As far as the luck I mentioned Idk how you can dispute that. Tell me a player who’s had more fortunate outcomes that isn’t directly based on their play? I’ll wait
@@RealRap619 yeah you will someday get it.
@@freckles7112 Not rocket science but ok. I don’t see the game the same as you. I’m more than fine with that 🤷
I'm sure the world knows who and what Tom Brady is. He put this one on himself. And I know he's not the only one.
In 2018/2019 we started talking about Mahomes as a possible challenger to Brady’s throne. TB12 denied him rings in 2018 and 2020. Then this season he fails in AFC championship game. So now we talk about Burrow as the guy. There is always a new guy who people become infatuated with. Not saying Mahomes/Burrow won’t be great or even HOF. But its happened so many times that we pick a “new guy” who is the next big thing
Jinxing them 🤣.. but it’s mainly because Tom Brady is THE standard ..
eye test wise Burrow is the man though, the 9 sacks he withstood and that comeback against the chiefs, is making him Brady-esque
Saying Tom had the perfect storm is just BS. He had to fight for college position, then started as a backup and had to wait.
Mahomes getting drafted by KC who already had a great team and coaching staff and just needed a qb is a perfect storm. Then all the great qb's like Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Rothlisberger etc. all will retire and make it easier.
Exact with all the greats retired and gone it will definitly be allot easier.
Or harder you never know.
There are alot of teams just missing a qb. Look at the Teams in the super bowl now so you cant pull the Mahomes comparison like its validation. The chiefs were curbside trash for quite some time until that piece got put in. Just like the pats when they had decided to put brady in. Brady is the goat but it cant mean others arent great or didnt work for theirs
LMAO Mahomes is trash. Hes the next Aaron Rodgers not Tom Brady.
He isn't talking about before Brady played with the Pats, once he was there it was the perfect storm because he was a franchise quarterback, with the same coach, same owner for the entire time he was there. Not to mention the amount of money that the Patriots could afford to pay him and the rest of his team throughout his tenure.
Brady is amazing and probably the best of all time but there is a lot more to a quarterbacks record and performance than just the quarterback.
@@Constitutionalist76 cap.
If you ever played a competitive team sport you know there were great players who put up great numbers every year and didn’t win. It’s not that they ever choked, they just didn’t win for whatever reason. Then there were other great players that may not have even been as good as an individual talent. But they just always won. Something about having them on your team just made everyone confident and play better. That’s Tom Brady. Not necessarily the individual talent of Rodgers or mahomes but he just finds a way to win.
Best way to describe about TB12 on the field.
@@peacebe2u480 yup. Just a winner even if he had an off game stat wise found a way to win. Those are the true greats
They had the perfect storm as Shannon puts it Cuz in three of his first four years starting Brady won the Super Bowl so that gave them the stability they needed. And then they had the near perfect season, went back to the Super Bowl etc.
Otto Graham played 10 years and went 7-3 in championship games.
There may not be another Brady, but finding another Otto is unthinkable.
Different era, with today's technology, your opponents even know if the qb shaves his balls or only has one tiny ball. Every minute detail is dissected n studied, no qbs can get away with anything unlike the 50s 60s.
@@peacebe2u480 you play in the era you play. No one controls when they were born and their accomplishments should still be recognized barring some rule that would not allow for fair competition.
If Burrow wins this Super Bowl he will have done something extremely special given he came to a 2-14 team. It would show he has that winner thing that Brady does for 1 season. Keep this in mind though. Joe Burrow is 25, if he WINS THE SUPER BOWL every other year he will pass Brady when he is 40. That is insane to think about and puts how unbelievable and impossible what Brady has done into perspective for me. Way too early to debate this until someone does something amazing
@UCokbTvYGtNrm6H0px40ze1Q Yep, not saying it can't but with the amount of extremely good QB's in the AFC it would be even crazier. I personally think Joey B is the guy that can do it though.
Nobody will ever be able to reach the superbowl every other year, during a long career. We will never see a Brady again, at least not in our lifetime.
And for what I've seen from Burrow he likes to run. That won't be great for longevity as it increases his chance of injury.
lol stop
I think Josh Allen is the best qb out of the 4 Golden Boys right now
Finally!! Something that Shannon Sharpe and I agree on. I have said for years that the Cowboys could have been the Patriots if Jerry Jones had left Jimmy Johnson alone all those years ago. I was a Cowboy's fan until the year that happen. I hope the Cowboys win nothing until that man and his family leaves that team.
I've always believed that as well, and I think in old age Jerry has realized that now that he knows how hard it is to win a Super Bowl.
Does anyone find dak being on the graphic dissrespectful to burrow and brady
Dak shouldn't be next to those guys even digitally.
I hope they get Tom as a guest on this show.
Brady’s legacy will never be eclipsed
Nobody will ever catch him
Tom Brady legacy and records will be cemented for the next 100 years if NFL continues He's meant to be the goat and on top of all other players
I 100% agree with every word you have spoken. The greatest QB that ever lived.
We gotta get Skip to stop saying "betting on the come" lmao
A craps analogy which about 5% of the audience understands.
Even if Mahomes went on to win this year he's still very far off when you consider his style of play. He's not going to be able to play QB the way he does currently when he's 30+ years of age with a decade of taking hits in the NFL. He'll slow down like every does and then he'll have to make better reads and play better within the pocket. Not only would he have to have the longevity to chase down those titles but he'd also have to drastically change the way he plays QB. He makes up for a lot with physical gifts that he's not always going to have as he ages.
lol Rodgers doing similar stuff at 38. Mahomes has a lot to learn, but Brady didn't win an MVP or throw 30 plus TDs or have a 93+ rated season until 30 years old. Mahomes turns 27 in September lol.
Also spare me the weapons argument, because in 5 games w/o Tyreek in 2019, Mahomes had one of the best 4-5 game stretch in his entire career.
Obviously. I can't imagine anybody else to get 7 SB rings in my life ( I expect to live another 40-50 yrs).
You could live another 400-500 yrs and you still wouldn't see it.
Mr. Joe Burrow AKA Captain America will
@@rhyscruz If he survives the Rams D-line, Joe O-line sucks...🤣
I loved the tennis reference to Federer, Nadal, Djokovic!
I’m glad people starting to realize what Brady has done is not something normal. For sure we won’t see something like that in our generation and maybe not even ever. Truly the Goat and I wish he played 1 more year but huge respect for choosing his family over football because I wouldn’t
Brady sacrificed money for glory. He took less money so he could have a better team around him. As much as I love Brees, that willingness to do that and also avoiding injury is what cost him championships. I can’t think of anyone who can catch Brady without making that sacrifice and playing for at least 20 plus years.
Yes Shannon, alot of people took Tom Brady for granted and come next season, they are going to miss Tom Brady and his football excellence! He made every team better and they were awesome to watch. His teams rarely made mistakes (mostly Patriots) and they played intelligent football. I don't know if I can watch stupid football and without Tom Brady, there will be alot of stupid football. Still holding out hope that Brady will be this years MVP. He deserves it!
I love the fact that Unc a long time critic of TB12 putting up good words now. We are so fotunate to have lived and witness greatness. Appreciate it while we still can on others.
Why is Dak even in that graphic…
For real. He’s not even in the upper half of QBs. What a joke.
Tom had a perfect storm and everything was in unison. A big part of that is because he accepted paycuts like no other QB and was getting paid less than middle of the pack QBs so that the team can have better players. No other QB is showing any willingness to walk that path.
The big part is that he had the skills to turn cheap short slot receivers into top play makers, especially in playoff, that is why Pats could win the first 3 SB.
And THAT is a bigger part of his legacy than gets doesnt get taken into account. Constantly was 'underpaid', restructuring and taking cuts, so he could get pieces around him and on D. No one else was doing that. And ppl wonder why brady kept winning. That was a big piece of it.
helps when your wife is a supermodel and loaded. he just winning in every aspect of life
Kraft, Belichick, and the Patriot had the perfect storm, which was Brady. The fact that he can elevate his game further in the playoffs against the best teams the NFL had to offer, depsite having a bad division meaning not much practice, and having winning records on almost all 31 other NFL franchises, is proof enough that he is the perfect storm for the Pats and the NFL.
@@ReneParada yeah I was just thinking that, people will say Kraft and BB created the Perfect Storm for Brady.. but no-one considers the fact that it was actually the other way around
That tennis analogy by Shannon was pretty good.
There won't be never again in my lifetime another TB12. Having said that, there's a QB J. Burrow that also could be a legend. Hope he succeed. Think about it...
Yes. Burrow is the only QB i see right now out of everyone to be able to get really up there. Dude just has "it"
No, look at the way that Burrow dresses. He dresses like a wannabe whiteboy trailer park gangster boy.
Burrow ist the one i see. He has it and assembles his troops. He will be the next, but only time will tell.
@@sportfreak12 Lol, he has had one good season!
Gretzky and Pele are the real GOATS. They dominated their sports better than anyone else. But Brady is the QB GOAT 💪🍻
Pele not even the goat of his own sport
Hockey doesn't count because they don't play the best of the best only against white men. The NHL is notoriously racist
Another important fact: Brady avoided serious injury for 22 years. How can you expect that to happen again?
Tom Brady tore his Acl first game of 2008 coming off a 50 td undefeated regular season, missed another year of that Randy Moss magic
21 of 22 years. 2008...
@@supersonics4295 the man tore his ACL and went on to win 4 more Super Bowl well into his 40s lmao the astonishing facts keep piling up
@@davidb6576 and considering he didn't play in his rookie season, it was actually more like 20/22 seasons.
Young qbs -love em. Let’s talk about them in twenty years-see if they are still leading the league in yds. Passed and TD.
Tom Brady is the MJ and Lebron of football. He has all the championship and stats. GOAT of Goats
Who is lebron???
As much as I think he’s went up against some good QBs. You have to mention the defenses he’s played against. 00’s Ravens, Legion of Boom, Steelers defense, current Rams defense, Saints, giants defense of the years he lost in SB.
Mankind will experience an extinction level event before anyone catches Tom.
Tom Brady is the most iconic quarterback in the NFL!!👍👍
Thank you Brady 🐐
Even though Brady didn’t win any super bowls in ten years, within those same ten years he was still getting to super bowls (barely lost two super bowls) and afc championship games (barely lost a few) and still getting mvp seasons.
It doesn’t even seem real that Brady is gone 💔
Brady is one of a kind, we will never see another starting qb win seven Superbowls, playing at a mvp level at the age of 44
why not?
@@polpol1005 with the rule changes we got to many good QBs coming into the league to many QBs to go through to get there
@@polpol1005 nobody willing to do what TB did
@@KyleJBales we'll see about that
"We took Tom Brady for granted".
No Shannon, YOU took Tom Brady for granted.
Absolutely. I was in Seattle for 2015 Super Bowl. Totally rooting for Hawks. Everyone going nuts as they were at the goal line moments away from getting back to back titles. The moment Wilson threw pick I was hit by a bus... but then a few minutes later I realized Tom got his 4th ring... and went on to 3 more. Unreal. I knew what I was seeing.
All of a sudden Shannon’s praising Brady. I told you was a closet Brady fan
I don't think anyone will be able to duplicate such a career. But, in this pass happy league I think it's theoretically possible. Will Mahomes or Josh Allen, or Joe Burrow or Herbert catch him in TD? Maybe. Completions and yards? Maybe. They may become incredible QBs, Hall of Fame maybe. But will they be as great as Tom Brady? Will they be anywhere near the winner he was? It's almost impossible.
To make 10 superbowls and win in 7 of them (debatably should have won more), to never have a losing season in 20 years, to go 243-73 in regular season and 35-12 in post season. To throw 624 TD and only 203 INT. To be this successful with so many different players, different teams, different coaching staff minus Bill of course. To turn nobody recievers into important pieces of a dominant offense. To conquer the most ludicrous, impossible comebacks in both regular and post season, even superbowls. To be a role model on and off the field. It's just not possible.
The game is changing. It's now easier than ever to throw TDs, score points, easier to not throw interceptions, harder for defenses to even play their positions due to the modern rules, and there's even another game to be played each season. It's possible someone could catch up to his numbers, but will they catch up to his greatness? No. Never.
This comment has 12 likes so I won't like it anymore to maintain that crisp 12 of Brady. Great comment btw
Sounds like Joe Burrow tbh
so love these guys. shannon and skip are so enthusiatick i don't know but my spelling bad,fooey, love these guys did i stutter
You don't have to be a sportscaster or a top-level Superbowl-winning Tightend to know Brady is at the top of the heap. All you have to do is look at the videos of him sporting all of those Superbowl rings with two different teams is all the proof you need.
The greatest of the greats. 👏🏻🤝✌️🤙🏻
Shannon Sharpe forgot to mention what Brady was winning SBs with on off!!!! Peyton Manning & all those other QBs they are mentioning were surrounded by #1 picks on off by their HCs & organizations
There was that funny story someone was interviewing Peyton manning. And they were talking about Tom and he goes “yeah, they give a lot of credit to Eli or Myself but I give credit to my mom. Without her, Brady would have five more rings.”
I have to admit I wanted Tom to keep going , but my Dad's words keep coming back regarding Rocky Marcinano the boxer . He quit when He was on top and will never have his record beaten , NEVER ! Thanks Tom , I'm glad I was alive to see it !!! I also am glad I saw and heard your predictions and insights !! Thanks
I'm just throwin it out there, no shade to Peyton. That man didn't go a single season without a stacked receiving core. Brady had like 4-5 seasons total with a stacked receiving core.
In the words of Dan LeBatard, Brady threw to white garden gnomes.
😂😂😂 (Hogan, Edleman, Amendola, Weller, etc.)
What stacked receiving core did he have before 2004 🤔
we forgot to mention how generous Tom Brady is for giving the team plenty of time to find a replacement , before the new season . Thats Professional
Brady went up against Roethlisberger almost his entire career in the AFC. And his first loss to Manning in a championship was because of the refs. Brady was the one keeping these 2 out of many superbowls, not the other way around.
I mean Brady’s 2-3 against Manning in the playoffs lol. So technically Manning did keep Brady out of more Super Bowls
They played against the defense not Brady. Why give him credit for the defense making Peyton and Ben look ordinary when they played. Credit to shedding Pit defense though. Indy was never that great on D
@@trevorcopeland867 "Heck if it wasn't for my mother, Olivia Manning, he'd have 11 of them." - Peyton Manning, 2020..
It's just f'n crazy to thing about it.. If 'The Mannings' didn't keep him from 3 appearances and 2 wins..
@@RealRap619 because having a QB like Brady making long sustained drives keeps your defense off the field. QBs who go 3 and out alot make their own defense gassed by the 4th quarter.
@@trevorcopeland867 no, without ref interference, it's 3-2 Brady.
I haven't seen any QB with the same clutch genes as Brady🤷♂️
I'm glad I didn't take Brady for granted. I'm a bears fan, but I've always given Brady his flowers...I agree with Shannon, we will NEVER see anything close.
My Facebook timeline has posts going over 7 years and more popping up showing he was the goat then. It's just crazy how long he's been good
Its hard to beat Brady because not only do they gave to win consistently to get his records but also do it for a long period of time. He consistently was in the playoffs and even in the AFC championship game for years and in 10 super bowls. He only got minor injuries except for one season (TB12 method might reallly be effective) and that is while he was battling with the greats Peyton, Russ, Aaron, Big Ben, Rivers etc.
We can't talk about young players as being equal to Brady. It makes no sense. We have to wait until they get towards the end of their careers. What TB12 did in Tampa capped it, and what the players said about his speech before the Super Bowl win sent shivers through me. Tom had a lot of bad luck in his last year.
We'll never know but had Chris Godwin stayed healthy and Antonio Brown not lost his mind, I don't see them losing to that Rams team. Not to mention no Ronald Jones, playoff Lenny coming off a serious injury and Christian Wirfs getting hurt in the opening round. Even without them, he STILL brought them back from down 20-3 only to lose on a brutally bad defensive lapse.
@@JeffSmith-eq3kc Exactly Jeff! I feel for Tom in his last season, he couldn't have had much worse luck. TB12 gave his all!
Patrick Mahomes is improvisation; TB12 is text book.
Lol at Dak on that background graphic with TB12 and Joe. One of these things is not like the other.
Something people don't credit tthe GOAT is he doesn't get in to some controversial situations on and off the field luv u man
Shannon tried to slip through the cracks again... Skip caught it! Shannon, one last time, Tom Terrific Brady is the Greatest Of All Time. Period. Whatever names u r mentioning, Brady beat all of them hands down!!!
Joey Franchise, Herbert, Lamar, Josh Allen are all in the AFC. And I think Zac Wilson or Trevor Lawerence, one of them will be in that echelon of young QBs (remember Josh Allen was not good his rookie year and both QBs are on bad teams especially Trevor) Mahomes gonna be in shootouts for now on. The AFC is a blood bath for the next 5-7 years at least
mac jones might be able to join that list
Appreciate the Herbo love ⚡️😈
QBRs of 2 QBs over first 4 seasons:
QB A: 43, 83, 67, 51
QB B: 47, 79, 62, 63
A is Lamar, B is Wentz..
Is Lamar gonna be OK?
@@smiley7090 Delusional. Jones is a quick processor, but he HAS to be. He has a weak arm so the ball has to be out FAST. The problem with anticipatory throwers is they need a clean pocket or EXCELLENT pocket feet.
Mac Jones is Andy Dalton. Only delusional Patriots fans think he's the 2nd coming.
@@superdestructo I swear only racists keep taking shots at Lamar. QBR, so what? Brady's had so-so years with QBR. What was Josh Allen when he was young? Didn't Eli Manning LEAD the league in INTs like 4 times and still win 2 Super Bowls. Please cut the hate.
Also the MVP in 2016, Matt Ryan, had a QBR of 70-something, barely above Lamar's 67 QBR, and this most RECENT season, the Ravens suffered, along with the Titans, the most injuries of any team in the NFL.
Lamar went 8-3 with 3rd stringers before he got hurt.
Lamar won unanimous MVP and has a winning record EVERY SEASON he's been in the NFL, including making the playoffs as a ROOKIE. Wenztz hasn't done ANY of this and you IGNORE the number 1 variable: Lamar is almost always the fastest dude on the field.
Haters gonna hater. Lamar just WINS and WINS, like Brady.
Im tired of all the comments saying Tom Brady is not G.O.A.T. What makes an ATHLETE ? Physical strength ? Sportsmanship? Determination? Competitiveness? Attitude ? Character ? Discipline ? Tom has all of that and add brains, humility, loyalty, team player, heart and passion. This man is definitely G.O.A.T in my books !
Shannon, it was all Brady. Brady was the coach and leader. Belichek hitched himself to Brady’s coattails for the glorious ride.
Never! Brady is the Michael Jordan of the NFL. One of the greatest athletes ever. Serena as well. All 1/1.
I love Tom Brady and Serena but the greatest NFL player is Lawrence Taylor
Tom Brady's retirement puts everybody else in perspective.
Those young qb’s know who the goat is. Don’t compare these young guys to a someone they can never be.
Tom made a great defensive coordinator into the goat head coach….
I wouldn't necessarily say Tom had the perfect storm. That argument is only valid if you use it with Tampa to, his receivers were always trash in New England besides moss
I understand your point. But I believe what Shannon meant for the sake of argument like Rodgers and Mahomes situation. People would argue if Rodgers got better coach and all, how great he will be and how about Mahomes if he got BB. It's true TB12 got the better GM, Coach and Owner compare to but that's not his fault, he got Picked at 6th round. No expectation, no one believed in him and he managed to be the GOAT.
Skip playing dumb when it came to his cowboys in the 90s when jerry jones dismantled his own dynasty because of his ego and couldnt stand not publicly getting credit i mean your the owner what more credit could you want it was just sad and disappointing
Yes they blew it. Egos. Now have not won a Super Bowl in 27 yrs