Hey First of all I want to tell you that this is my theory! (Cochu 444) and not that of "T and me". He was just a good friend who produced the artwork, this excellent animation! to accompany my research on the sinking. Just because he made this animation doesn't mean he supports my theory! It just helped me with Graphic material! As most of us know, there was a lot of confusion between the testimonies of passengers, testimonies that left others invalid, and testimonies that said the complete opposite to others. It is really difficult to know what really happened that night, but by studying the physics, the design of the ship and trying to mediate between the testimonies without trying to make anyone out to be a liar. passenger, I tried to develop my own theory about the final plunge of the Titanic, a theory that did not leave any testimony out, but rather tried to mediate everyone to reach a conclusion that obviously makes sense and is credible, a possible reality, a so-called "theory" about the sinking of the Titanic. I'll clarify right now that I didn't wake up one morning with an idea and it occurred to me to invent a theory. I have seen many people underestimate my research by calling it "garbage" and using other unpleasant terms to describe my theory, which is much more realistic than other theories such as: ""V-shaped break" and other unfounded theories that even have the courage to falsify testimonies. Obviously, the fact that my theory is more realistic than others is not a valid basis to maintain that it is the most acceptable and realistic theory about the sinking of the Titanic, So I hope that this brief report that I will leave you below will help you understand better, or at least know my foundations to support my theory. Mmmm, actually, it was precisely in that context that I founded some parts of my theory. The striking thing is that some people said that the sea was illuminated and everything was seen perfectly, while others stated that nothing could be seen except its dark silhouette. Some claimed that the ship broke in two, while others claimed that the ship sank intact. Even people who were on board swore that the ship never broke up and that it sank intact. I have the following explanation for this: The lights go out completely after the second funnel falls; in fact, the same failure generates sparks coming out of its upper hole. After the funnel fell, amid panic and total darkness, many thought that the ship had already split in two, while those who were closer still saw the stern, And the propellers sticking out of the water. At this point, the bow completely under water, stretched with force, while the air in the stern towards it will rise, and its own weight bent the metal and split the wood of the decks. Since the second funnel fell, the total darkness caused many, if not most, of the passengers to stop paying attention to the sinking ship, for this reason, The last thing many people saw was the stern rising into the air until the lights went out, so they deduced that the stern ended up rising vertically and sinking in one piece. But others managed to see the ship break in two. The completely flooded bow stretched strongly from below, while the third funnel falls and the fourth remains Instead. When the stern falls backwards, people still on board the boat felt the fall, but they did not attribute it to a breakage, but rather to a more level final immersion, since, Finally the stern sank level with the sea, with few degrees of heel and inclination. The last thing seen of the ship was the top of the funnel still standing, and the stern mast. When the ship broke in two, the bow tore the central part, dividing the ship into 3 or even 4 parts (the central part). At this point, the bow was pulling strongly from below. Its total weight stretched from the stern, still afloat. After a few seconds, the metal plates (the double reinforced hull) It began to give way. In this way, as the bow stretched from below, it tore the entire lower part of the stern, stretching it no longer from the area of the break, but from the center. Finally, the bow came loose and with it two blocks of the double hull, which can still be seen separated on the bottom today. With the bottom torn off, the stern compartments simply did not work at isolating water from one another, which would have caused it to rise vertically, Therefore, since there were no functioning compartments, the water entered with force, flooding everything. The stern sank levelly, being at the same level and being covered by water at the same time The lifeboat deck and stern end. For this reason, when the people who were on the boat until the end were asked if it had broken in two, These people affirmed and swore that they did not, because they simply felt the stern fall, and then sink level, without rising vertically. On the other hand, the people in the lifeboats who ensured that the ship did not break up, It is because the last thing they saw of the ship was seeing it semi-vertical shortly before the lights went out, and they deduced that the ship sank intact and upright in the darkness. Furthermore, it should be noted again that many people claimed that the last thing seen of the ship was the fourth funnel and the mast. When some passengers said "it looked like a vertical needle towards the sky" they were referring to the mast, which looked vertical and high, the highest point of the stern sinking. I see that there are too many doubts and the community has a hard time accepting my theory, so in the long term I hope to make a much more professional animation about the underwater breakup And the damage to the stern after the breakup, which explains its level sinking. Thanks for reading everything! I hope this gives you an idea of what the last minutes of the Titanic were really like. Also, thanks to T and me for creating this animation about my theory! It really is the best animation he could have made ❤️🩹😊. thanks for reading everything! Sorry for the spelling errors and so on, I had to translate everything into English because my native language is Spanish. I hope this report has given you a new point of view on what may have happened that night in 1912! or at least you can know the foundations to support my theory.
That's very interesting indeed. Is your theory based in any way on Mengots theory? Or took anything from it to develope it further? Just asking, and apologies if the english is somewhat rough. Btw i LOVE that Grand Staircase shot. Absolutely stunning and very quick
@@simonpfennigergonzalez3154 Hey! No, I had never heard of his theory before! Wow, I've seen it and there really are quite a few coincidences! It's interesting, but it doesn't take into account the Final Sinking of the stern. At this point, I've been doing some simulations and such...Actually the stern may lean a little more, but it still wouldn't be enough to please those who love "the stern sinking vertically" I've had to deal with them since I even published the first version of my theory.
My only 3 problems with this theory is the lights failing before the collapse of the second funnel, the speed at which the breakup area foundered & the angle at which the stern foundered.
The text disappears a bit too fast, as well as the funnels' collapse and break up are too fast, and the water is glitchy, still, a very impressive animation, the grand staircase crushing during the break up is an interesting addition
I personally believe that the stern went down vertical. But, You can't help but wonder... Seeing that it was pitch black and at the only light given off after the backup generators went out was the oil lamp on top of the aft mast, let's just say, for the sake of argument, it might be possible that her stern DID sink at a shallow angle? And what they saw, or what they believed they saw was actually the oil lamp on top of the mast that gave the ILLUSION that the stern was vertical to the sky? Now clearly, there are plenty of holes in this theory , considering the weight of the engines and the keel cling-on. However, at that moment when the lights went out, it was hard to see, And the only thing that they could use to map out the ship's angle was the black silhouette it gave off against the stars in the sky. Moreover, it's been considered that the people who thought they saw the ship breaking into 3 pieces was more likely them spotting the third funnel breaking off of the stern in a cloud of sparks (Despite the Forward and Aft towers being confirmed at the wreck sight). Though, we can't say for sure and it is still being debated today whether the Forward tower broke off at the surface or just before the stern hit the ocean floor. In conclusion, the combination of the darkness and light fixtures on the ship can play tricks on the mind. The only ones who know how the stern went down for sure are the ones who rode her down.
@@brianwhitford6086 Not as vertical as shown in the movie Titanic. In fact, James Cameron did a documentary since then with a more physics appropriate breakup.
@@ChrissonatorOFL In that same documentary, James Cameron showed that it is impossible for the stern to fall "sloshing in the water" and then rise vertically to sink.
This animation is an incredible work. I'm inclined to disagree with the angle of the final plunge as we have so many witnesses saying the stern went verticle, or near verticle, with one such witness vividly describing the stern as looking like an "accusatory finger pointing toward the sky", or something very close to that. That doesn't change the fact this is very good work. And I believe you are the very first in the century plus since the sinking to depict the destruction of the aft grand staircase, which is very well done and worth commending on it's own.
This animation is very good! I have seen all the theory videos on your channel and others, this is without a doubt the most accurate theory about the Sinking! Each event is represented cinematically,It's great! The fact that the lights go out before the ship breaks up gives a touch of realism! The breakage itself seems a bit fast to me, but I understand that it is not a real-time video. Finally, the final sinking of the stern is the most realistic! Maybe it would have stood up a little more, but I think it's okay! The best I've seen in a long time. Is this theory solely Cochu's or have they investigated it together? Great advance for the Titanic historian community, I had not seen it before.
This is one of my favorite new animations of the final plunge. It feels chaotic. And abrupt. Which is probably what happened once Titanic itself starting falling like a rock!😊
Finally someone modelled the aft grand staircase during the breakup. I was waiting the THG team to actually show interior animations during the split but the day had never came.
Good video! I liked it. The water looks weird in some parts hahahah, but it's okay. I never agreed with the stern rising vertically after breaking and I hate people who have falsified testimonies for their convenience. Finally I find an animation, theory in which the stern sinks realistically. Congratulations! New subscriber
While I also hate the use of edited accounts as evidence, I'm a bit perplexed. What are you referring to in terms of falsified accounts in this context? There are many known authentic accounts of the stern practically upending post-break. I could provide many examples. Frank Goldsmith: "You could still see the Titanic, but you could see only the back, halfway between the mast and the last funnel with the propellers straight up in the air and it hung there for, as a kid, it seemed five minutes. Then it gave a slight whoosh and down it went. There were no lights, but you could see the silhouette of it because the night was clear, the stars so bright." - Boat C Caroline Brown: "Her bow went under first and she seemed to settle. Then we heard the most awful roaring and rumbling that seemed as if it must be heard over the ocean for miles. Next(,) the stern of the once magnificent vessel reared high in the air and seemed to stand upright in the water for some time before it went down with a long(,) slanting plunge." - Boat D Cosmo Duff-Gordon: "The stern rose a hundred feet almost perpendicularly, the ship standing up like an enormous black finger against the sky." - Boat 1 Walter Hawksford: "It was a very cold but beautiful night, starry, and the sea as smooth as glass, we watched her bow gradually getting lower, then at about two o’clock, all the lights went out, her stern rose in the air, and she slowly glided away." - Boat 3 Martha Stephenson: "After what seemed a long time, I turned my head, only to see the stern almost perpendicular in the air so that the full outline of the blades of the propellers showed above the water. She then gave her final plunge and the air was filled with cries." - Boat 4 Juliet Taylor: "Then we lay and watched the lights go down one after another until they were all gone. Then the Titanic slowly up-ended and went under." - Boat 5 Jennie Hansen: "Slowly, the ship tilted straight on end and slipped quietly out of sight beneath the waters." - Boat 11 Ruth Becker: "To our amazement, we watched the Titanic break in half, the prow slipping down quietly beneath the waters and the stern remaining in an upright position for a couple of minutes - seeming to say: ‘Goodbye - so sorry!’" - Boat 13 George Crowe: "(...) the aft part turned on end and sank." - Boat 14 Earnest Archer: "(...) when the ship went down, she seemed to come up on end." - Boat 16
Really good animation. I think the one differing factor in most other variations of the breakup is the flooded bow remained partially attached to the stern by the mangled keel and the bow carries the the stern to a higher angle before it severs while the stern resists sinking due to the amount of air trapped in it. Once the bow detaches the weight of the engines at the outer edge of the stern cause the whole structure to submerge while maintaining a steeper angle.
I always liked this exchange from A NIGHT TO REMEMBER: LIGHTOLLER: There are quite a lot of "ifs" about it; aren't there, Colonel? […] If we'd been steaming a few knots slower, or if we'd sighted that berg a few seconds earlier, we might not even have struck. If we'd been carrying enough lifeboats for the size of the ship instead of just enough to meet the regulations, things would have been different again, wouldn't they? GRACIE: Maybe. But you have nothing to reproach yourself with. You've done all any man could and more. You're not… I was about to say, you're not God, Mr. Lightoller. LIGHTOLLER: No seaman ever thinks he is! I've been at sea since I was a boy. I've been in sail. I've even been shipwrecked before. I know what the sea can do! But, this is different. GRACIE Because we hit an iceberg? LIGHTOLLER: No. Because we were so SURE! Because even though it's happened, it's still unbelievable! I don't think I'll ever feel sure again. About anything.
Hey buddy! Thank you very much for encouraging my theory! I know that without a doubt you have worked hard! You have followed every indication perfectly! I am very glad that you have represented my theory in this way! Everything is correct! I have also seen the moment in which the ship stabilizes, when the port wing of the bridge is flooded and the powerful wave of water drags everything away! I liked the camera shots, the angles, the timing and also the breakage! In short: your animation was excellent! The final dive was great! I appreciate you very much! Besides your friend, I have been a big fan for years! I am happy about this collaboration with you, it means a lot to me 🥹
This theory is just like most of the others---except with the very inaccurate behavior of the stern as it is shown here, which makes this theory below average. The nearly vertical position of the stern at the very end (the 3rd plunge) is the aspect of the sinking that is most agreed upon by witnesses. That is, there are 3-5 testimonies about the 4th funnel or about the momentary bow rise, but there are at least 30 about the stern standing up at the end. And the freely floating stern---not connected at all to the bow, and having a long duration---is also well documented: 1. She then seemed to settle very, very quiet until the last, when she rose up (Henry Etches) 2. she broke forward, and the afterpart righted itself (Alfred Olliver) 3. The poop is going to float. (George Symons) 4. Stern righted itself without the bow (George Symons) 5. the after part came up right again (Frank Osman) 6. the after part came up and staid up five minutes before it went down. (Seaman Buley) 7. we could see the afterpart afloat, and there was no forepart to it (Seaman Buley) 8. the afterpart of her settled out of the water horizontally after the other part went down (Seaman Buley) 9. the afterpart settled down again, and we thought the afterpart would float altogether (Seaman Buley) 10. She uprighted herself for about five minutes, and then tipped over and disappeared (Seaman Buley) 11. then the afterpart righted itself again and the forepart had disappeared (Quartermaster Bright) 12. The after part then seemed almost to right itself and we thought she might keep afloat (Alfred White) 13. The after part of the ship came down on the water in its normal position and seemed as if it was going to remain afloat, but it only remained a minute or two and then sank. (source?) 14. I am sure it floated for at least a minute (John Collins) 15. the stern stayed up a minute (Ruth Becker) 16. the ship broke in two, and the after part came up on a level for a brief space, the bow having already disappeared (Albert Horswill) 17. Then the ship broke in two between the middle funnels and the bow disappeared. The stern slowly settled, and at last sank (Fred Hoyt) 18. about four or five minutes in that horizontal position (Frank Evans) 19. Rowe agreed that the ship broke in the centre and that the after part came to the surface again after once being covered with water. (Gosport and County Journal, May 16th, 1912)
Wow, everything is so precise! There's only one bug with the folding boats, but anyway, it's a good animation! I see that this theory is new, I think everything is fine, Why do all the lights go out at the same time? Wouldn't it have been in different sectors? It is curious to see how the stern sinks, but I think it is the closest thing to how it would have sunk, a little more vertical and that's it. The video looks like a movie! Good work and research
sometimes, seeing realistic concepts like this is creepy knowing how she sank. i can't imagine being somewhere in the interior of the bow when she split.
A very good video and interesting as well. The point of failure occurring at or near the aft grand staircase is also interesting as well, especially given the artefacts found in the debris field that originated from the area. It's believed that the lounge was more the epicenter of the breakup as artefacts from the galley have been found all over the place as well. It could've very well been a multi-section breakup where it fractured in both areas for all we know. Nicely done, though.
The stern did reach an almost vertical angle when she slipped under. Nothing like the movie lol but it did nearly get to a vertical angle. It didn’t do what it did there where it slowly sloshed below the waves
I believe the break up to have happened more under the water. Based on survivor accounts that some say broke others whole. For this to happen. I believe them to both be right to some degree. In order to agree with both sides equally. My theory is that the super structure gave out as the water washed over the boat deck and started to crack between the 3rd and 4th funnel as the water flooded the boat deck and the ship then started to crack straight down to the B deck level but the crack was almost immediately concealed by the ocean washing over the ship. Causing the stern to drop back down slightly and opening up the top decks long enough to show that it had started to break apart before the water hid it. And then the stern, it stayed attached to the bow and as the stern rose up the mid section began to crumble underneath the water and then the keel broke off detaching the stern as it went completely vertical before plunging down into the ocean. I could be wrong but it’s just a theory. Being a dark night, yeah it would have been difficult to see what’s happening clearly. By they said they could see her shadow between the stars. So yeah I believe it was possible to see her break. If on the surface it did break somewhat but not all the way down to the keel just the white parts of the super structure and as the bow pulled the stern down, once submerged under the water, the break zone keel it weakened and the crack got bigger and the keel gave out and the stern and bow separated with the superstructure debris between them crumbling into pieces underneath the water as the stern shot down and then imploded under the water with lots of explosions. People testified they heard explosions once the Titanic was gone. I don’t know if this makes any sense but my point is I believe she did kinda sink intact. But she did partly break on the surface but didn’t show her wound for more than a few seconds before it was concealed by the water. Exposed for enough time for some to see that she was breaking in two but not long enough for everyone else to see it hence the confusion on two or whole debat. She largely broke in two underneath the water giving the illusion of sinking completely intact. The survivors I believe were both right she did sink both ways. One just has to listen to both sides of the argument for the truth. Or at least get a clearer idea of what was actually going on. For I believe everyone should be heard no matter how conflicting opinions and statements might be. To just outright dismiss any claims of a break. One loses a considerable number of pieces of the puzzle.
Mmmm, actually, it was precisely in that context that I founded some parts of my theory. The striking thing is that some people said that the sea was illuminated and everything was seen perfectly, while others stated that nothing could be seen except its dark silhouette. Some claimed that the ship broke in two, while others claimed that the ship sank intact. Even people who were on board swore that the ship never broke up and that it sank intact. I have the following explanation for this: The lights go out completely after the second funnel falls; in fact, the same failure generates sparks coming out of its upper hole. After the funnel fell, amid panic and total darkness, many thought that the ship had already split in two, while those who were closer still saw the stern, And the propellers sticking out of the water. At this point, the bow completely under water, stretched with force, while the air in the stern towards it will rise, and its own weight bent the metal and split the wood of the decks. Since the second funnel fell, the total darkness caused many, if not most, of the passengers to stop paying attention to the sinking ship, for this reason, The last thing many people saw was the stern rising into the air until the lights went out, so they deduced that the stern ended up rising vertically and sinking in one piece. But others managed to see the ship break in two. The completely flooded bow stretched strongly from below, while the third funnel falls and the fourth remains Instead. When the stern falls backwards, people still on board the boat felt the fall, but they did not attribute it to a breakage, but rather to a more level final immersion, since, Finally the stern sank level with the sea, with few degrees of heel and inclination. The last thing seen of the ship was the top of the funnel still standing, and the stern mast. When the ship broke in two, the bow tore the central part, dividing the ship into 3 or even 4 parts (the central part). At this point, the bow was pulling strongly from below. Its total weight stretched from the stern, still afloat. After a few seconds, the metal plates (the double reinforced hull) It began to give way. In this way, as the bow stretched from below, it tore the entire lower part of the stern, stretching it no longer from the area of the break, but from the center. Finally, the bow came loose and with it two blocks of the double hull, which can still be seen separated on the bottom today. With the bottom torn off, the stern compartments simply did not work at isolating water from one another, which would have caused it to rise vertically, Therefore, since there were no functioning compartments, the water entered with force, flooding everything. The stern sank levelly, being at the same level and being covered by water at the same time The lifeboat deck and stern end. For this reason, when the people who were on the boat until the end were asked if it had broken in two, These people affirmed and swore that they did not, because they simply felt the stern fall, and then sink level, without rising vertically. On the other hand, the people in the lifeboats who ensured that the ship did not break up, It is because the last thing they saw of the ship was seeing it semi-vertical shortly before the lights went out, and they deduced that the ship sank intact and upright in the darkness. Furthermore, it should be noted again that many people claimed that the last thing seen of the ship was the fourth funnel and the mast. When some passengers said "it looked like a vertical needle towards the sky" they were referring to the mast, which looked vertical and high, the highest point of the stern sinking. I see that there are too many doubts and the community has a hard time accepting my theory, so in the long term I hope to make a much more professional animation about the underwater breakup And the damage to the stern after the breakup, which explains its level sinking. Thanks for reading everything! I hope this gives you an idea of what the last minutes of the Titanic were really like. Also, thanks to T and me for creating this animation about my theory! It really is the best animation he could have made ❤️🩹😊
@@cochu444yt I think your theory is very good. I don’t think there is any acceptance needed, nor is there a right nor wrong theory as everyone’s theory is good because the more theories they are the closer to the truth we will all be. Every theory is equally as valid as anyone elses. Well whatever did happen that night was extremely extraordinary based on the extant of the debris field. The bow is largely intact but the stern looks horrendous with a huge debris field separating them and large tower debris. So the break up was something that was out of the ordinary. The put ourselves in their place on the ship as she broke. It must have been a living nightmare.
Nobody ever shows the Titanic dropping through the depths, after it left the surface. To me, that’s the most fascinating part of the sinking because… As huge as that ship is, the ocean is an astronomical eternity in miles deep and wide. We would get an idea of just how far the ship sank.
2:54 as interesting as this is, survivor testimonies do state that the ship pulled vertical and even swung over some of their heads as she did a 360° spin (normal for ships during final plunges to spin around sometimes)
Great animation-the scene of the aft grand staircase being destroyed was very powerful. But at 0:54 wasn’t it Collapsible A that got free from the falls? I think it’s noted as Collapsible B.
A very cool animation overall, very nicely done! I will offer a couple of quick critiques, if I may be so bold: 0:52 This is Collapsible A, not Collapsible B. Not quite sure if this was just a typo, as you correctly identify Collapsible B a few seconds later. 2:30 Many survivors described the stern rising back up to nearly vertical and beginning to twist clockwise (from a top-down perspective) after the breakup and not staying on a more or less even keel. Not quite sure if that is your contribution or @cochu444yt 's but yeah, that's the generally accepted version of the stern's sinking. Again, this is merely constructive criticism, not meant to sound harsh or like you've done something "wrong." As I said, this is very well done overall and I loved every second! Nice job!
Every few years they change the angle of the breakup and the final plunge. Soon it will be oh she just went down absolutely flat and broke up underwater due to some other stupid reason.
100% the stern section went vertical, basic physics says this, also some survivors said the same. Funny though none of the surviving officers said she broke, but many passengers were certain. Imagine being there, if ever time travel becomes a thing.
Personally I don’t believe the dome ever imploded, I think once the staircase flooded, the wood ripped itself upwards due to its buoyancy and crashed upwards through the dome and skylight. Just my personal opinion
I think it'd be interesting for you to run this theory of yours by Mike Brady (Oceanliner Designs) as well as the _Titanic: Honour and Glory_ team. You'll hopefully pardon the term use here, however if it can hold water (rimshot), then I feel like they're the kinds of people who would like to explore it, and take it into account.
I don't understand why there's "theories". and why people act like there's mysteries when it comes to titanic is beyond me. We know what happened. People even testified to witnessing it break in half......
Decent animation. Kind of ignores the survivor testimony that all said the forward starboard LP cylinder slid out and caused an imbalance. This meant that the stern rose into the air again and was slowly turning to port and eventually sank facing East, towards England.
@@cochu444ytSeveral survivors specified it on being the stern that rose vertically into the air. Hardly anyone said it sank horizontally post break and the majority said it went vertical. Sorry for any offence, no offence meant.
@@IloveCruiseShips1912 In reality, my theory is precisely an attempt to include all the testimonies. The issue of the stern sinking horizontally is due to the testimonies of the "Sinking in one piece" It's the only thing that can explain it!
@@cochu444ytOnly a few said it sank in one piece, the majority were not sure or said it broke. Those that said it sank infact were either not in a good position to see, or might have mistook the lights going out as the ship disappearing. If it went vertical, the break area would definitely be underwater from the rising so no one would have seen the break area once the stern went vertical. It was also very dark that night so not everyone would be sure if it broke or not.
@@cochu444ytMost of those who said the ship sank intact more likely mistook the lights going out as the ship disappearing. Many witnesses seem to have mistook this and likely didn’t see the stern, even when it was rising due to the darkness and different POVs. Lightoller and Patrick Dillon who said it sank intact also said it went vertical or rose up when it sank.
It actually lifted 3 times. The first was the 2-hour-long slow sinking, which caused the first break and the stern to go back down. Then there was the Big Plunge, where the stern went high in the air and the ship plunged down to the 4th funnel; then the ship broke completely, leaving the stern afloat. Finally, the stern rose a third time, nearly perpendicularly, before taking its final plunge. Here are quotations about the second rise (the Big Plunge): "Then she turned right on end and made a big plunge forward." (Officer Pitman) "It seemed as though the stern of the boat, fully lighted up, stood up in the sky, suggesting one of our skyscrapers, so high did the outline mark the skyline. It then seemed to shoot or dive into the sea." "As the Titanic plunged deeper and deeper we could see her stern rising higher and higher until her lights began to go out. As the last lights on the stern went out we saw her plunge distinctively, bow first and intact." The ship was right up on end then. Suddenly she broke in two between the third and fourth funnel. (unknown source) All at once she seemed to go up on end, you know, and come down about half way, and then the afterpart righted itself again and the forepart had disappeared. (Quartermaster Bright.) It was partly a roar, partly a groan, partly a rattle, and partly a smash, and it was not a sudden roar as an explosion would be: it went on successively for some seconds, possibly fifteen to twenty, as [if] the heavy machinery dropped down to the bottom (now the bows) of the ship…. The probability of the noise being caused by engines falling down will be seen by referring to Figure 2, page 116, where the engines are placed in compartments 3, 4, and 5. As the Titanic tilted up they would almost certainly fall loose from their bed and plunge down through the other compartments. (Lawrence Beesley.) …the great noise which was…when the ship was aslant… (Colonel Gracie, speaking about his conversation with officer Lightoller.) I think the noise we heard was that of the boilers and engines breaking away from their seatings and falling down through the forward bulkhead. At the time it occurred, the ship was standing nearly upright in the water. (Col. Gracie quoting Samuel Rule.) The boat seemed to lift up right out of the water and tilt up on end and then seemed to break and drop back. (Walter Nichols) See also Lady Duff Gordon's account, which describes the first break, with the stern going back down, and "two minutes later" the 2nd break, and the stern rising the last time (she skips the Big Plunge, however).
@@randomrazr V break is physically impossible because the bow had hardly any to no air in it at time of break and had way too much water to rise. Hardly any survivors said the bow rose. The majority said it disappeared post break and those that said they saw it or saw the bow rise more likely mistook the third funnel falling or forward tower breaking off as the bow. Sorry for any offence, no offence meant.
I don’t think the Titanic broke in half that way think about it the Titanic was not a crappy made ship it was very strong I think it’s just impossible for the ship to have broken in3 different sections. Also the stern sunk like in the movie we have survivor testimonies to prove it.
The reason theories show it breaking into 3 is because some witnesses testified a 3 section break. Some said it broke in the middle / infront of third funnel, others, aft of third funnel and some, directly infront of fourth funnel. Some didn’t specify on where it was. Plus, the evidence at the wreck shows 2 chunks of superstructure and numerous parts of the hull. Even though it was a strong ship, when it was rising to 23 -30, it would have been subject to stresses no structure could withstand which would have caused it to break. I agree with it going vertical, maybe not completely but to 65 - 75 degrees. The theory presented in this video isn’t T and Me’s theory either. Sorry for any offence, no offence meant.
I think the reality of the stern sinking is probably somewhere in the middle. The movie is over the top sticking waaaay up in the air vertical, but on this animation it is too low. After the break the stern started filling with water making it sink but the heaviest portion of the section was right at the front where the engines were so that will have pulled the front down and pulled the very aft end up vertical. Most survivor accounts have the stern going vertical or near vertical but that point is probably a lot closer to when it finally slipped below the waves than in the Cameron movie.
Look at the sonar scans of the debris field; it broke into way more than 3 pieces. So you're correct that it was not poorly built, but it tried to go through what a ship cannot go through: losing a third of its support by the stern coming up. But I agree with you that the ship didn't break the way they show it in the movie or in all of the theory videos that are on UA-cam. All of the evidence shows that it broke in two stages. The first break was at the keel and the superstructure, at the first plunge, and the ship was not parted. The second break (the complete parting) came after the Big Plunge to a high angle. It took a lot to break such a strong ship.
@@TandMe Dude, James Cameron studied that case for many many years, he actually discovered that the Titanic broke in two parts Did you know that!? Of course You don't
@barbsdash5078 okay, let's begin, the angle of the ship in the 1997 film was extremely unrealistic, there was absolutely no way titanic could have ever reached an angle of 45 degrees before breaking. The second funnel not falling in the 1997 film is inaccurate as it goes against Jack Thayers account as he literally said the second funnel fell, it also goes against Thomas Lightollers testimony. Titanics break section is inaccurate as many survivors said that the ship broke in between the second and third funnel, you can also take a look at the thousands of publicly avaliable photos of the wreck and see that the ship broke in between the second and third funnel. Titanics lights remaining white during the sinking is also inaccurate as multiple survivors stated titanics lights went to a dim red glow during the sinking. The fourth funnel falling during the breakup is inaccurate as the force of the ship breaking would not be enough to cause the ship to collapse, and survivors said that the ship rose with the fourth funnel still standing. Titanic sinking with no list is inaccurate as ships do not sink without listing, that's not how physicics work, and of course there are many survivor testimonies that prove it talking about the angles of the lifeboats and the actions of the crew. The grand staircase windows breaking at the beginning of the final plunge and then a minute later the grand staircase having no water in it can be disproven with literal common sense. Captain Smith did not enter the bridge during the final plunge and kill himself as a survivor said Smith jumped over the bridge of the officers quarters. Please do not call me uneducated if you cannot even do as little as read survivor testimonies and please do not rely on literal movies to make theories on real world events 😁
@barbsdash5078 adding on to you asking me if I knew that and you calling me uneducated, no I did not know that because it is not true. It was Robert Ballard who discovered the wreck of the Titanic, and Jean-Louis Michel discovered the stern in 1985.
Cinematically beautiful, but the theory presented here does not match with the vast majority of survivor testimony nor evidence identified on the ocean floor. I know you’re going to say it’s “not my theory,” but by animating this you have a duty to clearly disclaim that this is not backed up by the evidence or you risk propagating a falsehood and distortion. It’s beautifully animated, yes, but there are some who might find this who will believe it to be historically accurate.
I think historical disortion is somewhat harsh. Theres a new expedition about to go out to the wreck to run a penetrative material scan of the whole structure, theres the possibility this new round of scientific evidence will help the understanding of the break up and the sterns sinking better. I dont think either the animator or the guy who came up with this theory are saying it absolutely happened their way. It was a pitch dark chaotic night and there was enough variation of survivor testimony that the authorities convinced the world for 73 years that the ship never broke up at all. All this amounts to is some discourse about the angle of the sterns sinking. If you want to see some real historical distortion check out CaljuCotcas recent dumpster fire of a Lusitania sinking. That ar$ehole made up a complete fabrication, insisted it happened his way and only his way and tried to shout down anyone who knew better.
I no longer subscribe to the view that half the ship stuck up out of the water shortly before she split in half and foundered. Your animation is probably, at least, closer to the messy, violent, heart-wrenching reality that was the sinking of Titanic.
@@stjepanrepanic-gotal4689 I've got a tip for you, read the title and the thumbnail before thinking it's my theory because believe it or not if you look at my channel my name is not cochu 444, so maybe there is a possibility that this isn't my theory
@@TandMe there is no theory about sinking...not like this. It is more dramatic and cinematic as you show. But when engine pull the stern down, it was the end in few violent minutes.
@TheTarget1980 Why don't you do some background research before commenting stupidly on other people's work? And remember: just because someone happens in one movie or many, doesn't mean it's "historically correct."
I like the theory until the sinking of the stern. It is not possible just because it SHOUKD go up in the stern side , when the nose side of the stern carries the dinamo machines , the weight of the upper decks and etc. And beside tgat a water is flowing throught the way where the ship broke up.
Hey First of all I want to tell you that this is my theory! (Cochu 444) and not that of "T and me". He was just a good friend who produced the artwork, this excellent animation! to accompany my research on the sinking. Just because he made this animation doesn't mean he supports my theory! It just helped me with Graphic material! As most of us know, there was a lot of confusion between the testimonies of passengers, testimonies that left others invalid, and testimonies that said the complete opposite to others. It is really difficult to know what really happened that night, but by studying the physics, the design of the ship and trying to mediate between the testimonies without trying to make anyone out to be a liar. passenger, I tried to develop my own theory about the final plunge of the Titanic, a theory that did not leave any testimony out, but rather tried to mediate everyone to reach a conclusion that obviously makes sense and is credible, a possible reality, a so-called "theory" about the sinking of the Titanic. I'll clarify right now that I didn't wake up one morning with an idea and it occurred to me to invent a theory. I have seen many people underestimate my research by calling it "garbage" and using other unpleasant terms to describe my theory, which is much more realistic than other theories such as: ""V-shaped break" and other unfounded theories that even have the courage to falsify testimonies. Obviously, the fact that my theory is more realistic than others is not a valid basis to maintain that it is the most acceptable and realistic theory about the sinking of the Titanic, So I hope that this brief report that I will leave you below will help you understand better, or at least know my foundations to support my theory. Mmmm, actually, it was precisely in that context that I founded some parts of my theory. The striking thing is that some people said that the sea was illuminated and everything was seen perfectly, while others stated that nothing could be seen except its dark silhouette. Some claimed that the ship broke in two, while others claimed that the ship sank intact. Even people who were on board swore that the ship never broke up and that it sank intact. I have the following explanation for this: The lights go out completely after the second funnel falls; in fact, the same failure generates sparks coming out of its upper hole. After the funnel fell, amid panic and total darkness, many thought that the ship had already split in two, while those who were closer still saw the stern, And the propellers sticking out of the water. At this point, the bow completely under water, stretched with force, while the air in the stern towards it will rise, and its own weight bent the metal and split the wood of the decks. Since the second funnel fell, the total darkness caused many, if not most, of the passengers to stop paying attention to the sinking ship, for this reason, The last thing many people saw was the stern rising into the air until the lights went out, so they deduced that the stern ended up rising vertically and sinking in one piece. But others managed to see the ship break in two. The completely flooded bow stretched strongly from below, while the third funnel falls and the fourth remains Instead. When the stern falls backwards, people still on board the boat felt the fall, but they did not attribute it to a breakage, but rather to a more level final immersion, since, Finally the stern sank level with the sea, with few degrees of heel and inclination. The last thing seen of the ship was the top of the funnel still standing, and the stern mast. When the ship broke in two, the bow tore the central part, dividing the ship into 3 or even 4 parts (the central part). At this point, the bow was pulling strongly from below. Its total weight stretched from the stern, still afloat. After a few seconds, the metal plates (the double reinforced hull) It began to give way. In this way, as the bow stretched from below, it tore the entire lower part of the stern, stretching it no longer from the area of the break, but from the center. Finally, the bow came loose and with it two blocks of the double hull, which can still be seen separated on the bottom today. With the bottom torn off, the stern compartments simply did not work at isolating water from one another, which would have caused it to rise vertically, Therefore, since there were no functioning compartments, the water entered with force, flooding everything. The stern sank levelly, being at the same level and being covered by water at the same time The lifeboat deck and stern end. For this reason, when the people who were on the boat until the end were asked if it had broken in two, These people affirmed and swore that they did not, because they simply felt the stern fall, and then sink level, without rising vertically. On the other hand, the people in the lifeboats who ensured that the ship did not break up, It is because the last thing they saw of the ship was seeing it semi-vertical shortly before the lights went out, and they deduced that the ship sank intact and upright in the darkness. Furthermore, it should be noted again that many people claimed that the last thing seen of the ship was the fourth funnel and the mast. When some passengers said "it looked like a vertical needle towards the sky" they were referring to the mast, which looked vertical and high, the highest point of the stern sinking. I see that there are too many doubts and the community has a hard time accepting my theory, so in the long term I hope to make a much more professional animation about the underwater breakup And the damage to the stern after the breakup, which explains its level sinking.
Thanks for reading everything! I hope this gives you an idea of what the last minutes of the Titanic were really like. Also, thanks to T and me for creating this animation about my theory! It really is the best animation he could have made ❤️🩹😊.
thanks for reading everything! Sorry for the spelling errors and so on, I had to translate everything into English because my native language is Spanish. I hope this report has given you a new point of view on what may have happened that night in 1912! or at least you can know the foundations to support my theory.
I'm not reading all of that, but cool
@@a-guy1912 Don't worry! It is undoubtedly the most accurate theory about the sinking of the Titanic.
That's very interesting indeed. Is your theory based in any way on Mengots theory? Or took anything from it to develope it further? Just asking, and apologies if the english is somewhat rough.
Btw i LOVE that Grand Staircase shot. Absolutely stunning and very quick
@@cochu444yt The ship went vertical. There is no way around it when EVERYONE said that it did.
@@simonpfennigergonzalez3154 Hey! No, I had never heard of his theory before! Wow, I've seen it and there really are quite a few coincidences! It's interesting, but it doesn't take into account the Final Sinking of the stern. At this point, I've been doing some simulations and such...Actually the stern may lean a little more, but it still wouldn't be enough to please those who love "the stern sinking vertically" I've had to deal with them since I even published the first version of my theory.
the scene where the aft grand staircase shatters was intensely awesome, I've never seen that before
also what the heck was the stern doing post break-up, why does it behave like the way how Lusitania's stern sank!
@@user-ts6zw6fd8u don't know, the theory is certainly interesting
@@TandMe ah ok
@@TandMe1 last minute of the shipwreck is not exactly 😮!!!
This is the first time I’ve seen the Aft Grand Staircase animated during the breakup, as well. It’s like a knife to the heart. 😭 Nice work.
O naufragio da H&G de 2023 tb mostra a aft grand staircase
@@GabrielNeves-gf9iesim mas não mostra ela sendo destruida pela quebra do navio
NO WAY, WE GET TO SEE THE AFT GRAND STAIRCASE DESTRUCTION
My only 3 problems with this theory is the lights failing before the collapse of the second funnel, the speed at which the breakup area foundered & the angle at which the stern foundered.
@@Rudnaz_127 yep! I totally agree
That was excellent although I'm not entirely sold on the final angle in which the stern section slipped under. Loved it nonetheless....good job.
The text disappears a bit too fast, as well as the funnels' collapse and break up are too fast, and the water is glitchy, still, a very impressive animation, the grand staircase crushing during the break up is an interesting addition
also the ship wouldn't have evened out so fast
Can't wait for you two fuckers to do one better!
2:10 I like how in the break up we just see the people surf the deck as it slides under lmao
While I do disagree with this theory, I still find the animation impressive & horrifying.
I personally believe that the stern went down vertical. But, You can't help but wonder... Seeing that it was pitch black and at the only light given off after the backup generators went out was the oil lamp on top of the aft mast, let's just say, for the sake of argument, it might be possible that her stern DID sink at a shallow angle? And what they saw, or what they believed they saw was actually the oil lamp on top of the mast that gave the ILLUSION that the stern was vertical to the sky?
Now clearly, there are plenty of holes in this theory , considering the weight of the engines and the keel cling-on. However, at that moment when the lights went out, it was hard to see, And the only thing that they could use to map out the ship's angle was the black silhouette it gave off against the stars in the sky. Moreover, it's been considered that the people who thought they saw the ship breaking into 3 pieces was more likely them spotting the third funnel breaking off of the stern in a cloud of sparks (Despite the Forward and Aft towers being confirmed at the wreck sight). Though, we can't say for sure and it is still being debated today whether the Forward tower broke off at the surface or just before the stern hit the ocean floor.
In conclusion, the combination of the darkness and light fixtures on the ship can play tricks on the mind. The only ones who know how the stern went down for sure are the ones who rode her down.
@@brianwhitford6086 are u blind? This is not T and ME theory
@@Nomadik_Animations I can see that. I read the title. U however clearly need to read up on your manners.
@@brianwhitford6086 Not as vertical as shown in the movie Titanic. In fact, James Cameron did a documentary since then with a more physics appropriate breakup.
@@ChrissonatorOFL In that same documentary, James Cameron showed that it is impossible for the stern to fall "sloshing in the water" and then rise vertically to sink.
This animation is an incredible work. I'm inclined to disagree with the angle of the final plunge as we have so many witnesses saying the stern went verticle, or near verticle, with one such witness vividly describing the stern as looking like an "accusatory finger pointing toward the sky", or something very close to that.
That doesn't change the fact this is very good work. And I believe you are the very first in the century plus since the sinking to depict the destruction of the aft grand staircase, which is very well done and worth commending on it's own.
This animation is very good! I have seen all the theory videos on your channel and others, this is without a doubt the most accurate theory about the Sinking! Each event is represented cinematically,It's great! The fact that the lights go out before the ship breaks up gives a touch of realism! The breakage itself seems a bit fast to me, but I understand that it is not a real-time video. Finally, the final sinking of the stern is the most realistic! Maybe it would have stood up a little more, but I think it's okay! The best I've seen in a long time. Is this theory solely Cochu's or have they investigated it together? Great advance for the Titanic historian community, I had not seen it before.
This is one of my favorite new animations of the final plunge. It feels chaotic. And abrupt. Which is probably what happened once Titanic itself starting falling like a rock!😊
fun fact: this isn't my theory! please read the title before watching the video!
Fact is most of those people, DIDN’T DROWN!! They froze to death!
1:14 oh nice, audio of Kenneth More from Night to Remember
I can't stop watching this
Finally someone modelled the aft grand staircase during the breakup. I was waiting the THG team to actually show interior animations during the split but the day had never came.
Good video! I liked it. The water looks weird in some parts hahahah, but it's okay. I never agreed with the stern rising vertically after breaking and I hate people who have falsified testimonies for their convenience. Finally I find an animation, theory in which the stern sinks realistically. Congratulations! New subscriber
While I also hate the use of edited accounts as evidence, I'm a bit perplexed. What are you referring to in terms of falsified accounts in this context? There are many known authentic accounts of the stern practically upending post-break. I could provide many examples.
Frank Goldsmith: "You could still see the Titanic, but you could see only the back, halfway between the mast and the last funnel with the propellers straight up in the air and it hung there for, as a kid, it seemed five minutes. Then it gave a slight whoosh and down it went. There were no lights, but you could see the silhouette of it because the night was clear, the stars so bright." - Boat C
Caroline Brown: "Her bow went under first and she seemed to settle. Then we heard the most awful roaring and rumbling that seemed as if it must be heard over the ocean for miles. Next(,) the stern of the once magnificent vessel reared high in the air and seemed to stand upright in the water for some time before it went down with a long(,) slanting plunge." - Boat D
Cosmo Duff-Gordon: "The stern rose a hundred feet almost perpendicularly, the ship standing up like an enormous black finger against the sky." - Boat 1
Walter Hawksford: "It was a very cold but beautiful night, starry, and the sea as smooth as glass, we watched her bow gradually getting lower, then at about two o’clock, all the lights went out, her stern rose in the air, and she slowly glided away." - Boat 3
Martha Stephenson: "After what seemed a long time, I turned my head, only to see the stern almost perpendicular in the air so that the full outline of the blades of the propellers showed above the water. She then gave her final plunge and the air was filled with cries." - Boat 4
Juliet Taylor: "Then we lay and watched the lights go down one after another until they were all gone. Then the Titanic slowly up-ended and went under." - Boat 5
Jennie Hansen: "Slowly, the ship tilted straight on end and slipped quietly out of sight beneath the waters." - Boat 11
Ruth Becker: "To our amazement, we watched the Titanic break in half, the prow slipping down quietly beneath the waters and the stern remaining in an upright position for a couple of minutes - seeming to say: ‘Goodbye - so sorry!’" - Boat 13
George Crowe: "(...) the aft part turned on end and sank." - Boat 14
Earnest Archer: "(...) when the ship went down, she seemed to come up on end." - Boat 16
Really good animation. I think the one differing factor in most other variations of the breakup is the flooded bow remained partially attached to the stern by the mangled keel and the bow carries the the stern to a higher angle before it severs while the stern resists sinking due to the amount of air trapped in it. Once the bow detaches the weight of the engines at the outer edge of the stern cause the whole structure to submerge while maintaining a steeper angle.
The music, the background OMG amazing to here with pods oh boy...
The 4th Funnel: I’m still standing! I’m still standing!
As soon as this video finishes on my phone, an advertisement for a cruise line comes on. 😅
I always liked this exchange from A NIGHT TO REMEMBER:
LIGHTOLLER:
There are quite a lot of "ifs" about it; aren't there, Colonel? […] If we'd been steaming a few knots slower, or if we'd sighted that berg a few seconds earlier, we might not even have struck. If we'd been carrying enough lifeboats for the size of the ship instead of just enough to meet the regulations, things would have been different again, wouldn't they?
GRACIE:
Maybe. But you have nothing to reproach yourself with. You've done all any man could and more. You're not… I was about to say, you're not God, Mr. Lightoller.
LIGHTOLLER:
No seaman ever thinks he is! I've been at sea since I was a boy. I've been in sail. I've even been shipwrecked before. I know what the sea can do! But, this is different.
GRACIE
Because we hit an iceberg?
LIGHTOLLER:
No. Because we were so SURE! Because even though it's happened, it's still unbelievable! I don't think I'll ever feel sure again. About anything.
Very nicely done, one of the best. The ONE thing I would criticize, is the stern not going vertical before it founders.
not my theory
This is beyond impressive
Friend you are everywhere 🗿👌🏻👍🏻
Hey buddy! Thank you very much for encouraging my theory! I know that without a doubt you have worked hard! You have followed every indication perfectly! I am very glad that you have represented my theory in this way! Everything is correct! I have also seen the moment in which the ship stabilizes, when the port wing of the bridge is flooded and the powerful wave of water drags everything away! I liked the camera shots, the angles, the timing and also the breakage! In short: your animation was excellent! The final dive was great!
I appreciate you very much! Besides your friend, I have been a big fan for years! I am happy about this collaboration with you, it means a lot to me 🥹
This is just a beautiful comment. I love it. One of the best I’ve seen. Same with the video. Perfect.
@@lochlanmuir2291 Thank you! I really express my gratitude to the creator of this artwork ❤
This theory is just like most of the others---except with the very inaccurate behavior of the stern as it is shown here, which makes this theory below average. The nearly vertical position of the stern at the very end (the 3rd plunge) is the aspect of the sinking that is most agreed upon by witnesses. That is, there are 3-5 testimonies about the 4th funnel or about the momentary bow rise, but there are at least 30 about the stern standing up at the end. And the freely floating stern---not connected at all to the bow, and having a long duration---is also well documented:
1. She then seemed to settle very, very quiet until the last, when she rose up (Henry Etches)
2. she broke forward, and the afterpart righted itself (Alfred Olliver)
3. The poop is going to float. (George Symons)
4. Stern righted itself without the bow (George Symons)
5. the after part came up right again (Frank Osman)
6. the after part came up and staid up five minutes before it went down. (Seaman Buley)
7. we could see the afterpart afloat, and there was no forepart to it (Seaman Buley)
8. the afterpart of her settled out of the water horizontally after the other part went down (Seaman Buley)
9. the afterpart settled down again, and we thought the afterpart would float altogether (Seaman Buley)
10. She uprighted herself for about five minutes, and then tipped over and disappeared (Seaman Buley)
11. then the afterpart righted itself again and the forepart had disappeared (Quartermaster Bright)
12. The after part then seemed almost to right itself and we thought she might keep afloat (Alfred White)
13. The after part of the ship came down on the water in its normal position and seemed as if it was going to remain afloat, but it only remained a minute or two and then sank. (source?)
14. I am sure it floated for at least a minute (John Collins)
15. the stern stayed up a minute (Ruth Becker)
16. the ship broke in two, and the after part came up on a level for a brief space, the bow having already disappeared (Albert Horswill)
17. Then the ship broke in two between the middle funnels and the bow disappeared. The stern slowly settled, and at last sank (Fred Hoyt)
18. about four or five minutes in that horizontal position (Frank Evans)
19. Rowe agreed that the ship broke in the centre and that the after part came to the surface again after once being covered with water. (Gosport and County Journal, May 16th, 1912)
@@billvanek5570 The 13th testimony was Joseph Scarrots.
@@IloveCruiseShips1912 Thank you!
Wow, everything is so precise! There's only one bug with the folding boats, but anyway, it's a good animation! I see that this theory is new, I think everything is fine, Why do all the lights go out at the same time? Wouldn't it have been in different sectors? It is curious to see how the stern sinks, but I think it is the closest thing to how it would have sunk, a little more vertical and that's it. The video looks like a movie! Good work and research
sometimes, seeing realistic concepts like this is creepy knowing how she sank. i can't imagine being somewhere in the interior of the bow when she split.
I've been watching all these sinking animations from several UA-camrs. I love the interior scenes. The aft dome implosion was really impressive.
A very good video and interesting as well. The point of failure occurring at or near the aft grand staircase is also interesting as well, especially given the artefacts found in the debris field that originated from the area. It's believed that the lounge was more the epicenter of the breakup as artefacts from the galley have been found all over the place as well. It could've very well been a multi-section breakup where it fractured in both areas for all we know. Nicely done, though.
The stern did reach an almost vertical angle when she slipped under. Nothing like the movie lol but it did nearly get to a vertical angle. It didn’t do what it did there where it slowly sloshed below the waves
Bro is Gordon Ramsay 🙏😭 this is straight 🔥
Even animated this scenario is absolutely horrifying.
This animation was so unique! Honestly, you did such a good job!
Probably he most definitive and accurate depiction.
cochu burnt his house down so T&Me could build him a mansion
Hmm? Xd
1:13 кто-то крикнул "Ой, бля!"😂
The nightmare in 1912. 😢
impressive.
Dang, this is incredible, cochu is lucky wish i my theory was animated by you, great work!
Good luck! I loved the animation! 😊
Right from the start I want to ask… Wouldn’t lights stop working under water? Especially lightbulbs from the 1910s lol
I think so but its not my theory so yeah
I believe the break up to have happened more under the water.
Based on survivor accounts that some say broke others whole.
For this to happen. I believe them to both be right to some degree.
In order to agree with both sides equally.
My theory is that the super structure gave out as the water washed over the boat deck and started to crack between the 3rd and 4th funnel as the water flooded the boat deck and the ship then started to crack straight down to the B deck level but the crack was almost immediately concealed by the ocean washing over the ship. Causing the stern to drop back down slightly and opening up the top decks long enough to show that it had started to break apart before the water hid it. And then the stern, it stayed attached to the bow and as the stern rose up the mid section began to crumble underneath the water and then the keel broke off detaching the stern as it went completely vertical before plunging down into the ocean.
I could be wrong but it’s just a theory. Being a dark night, yeah it would have been difficult to see what’s happening clearly. By they said they could see her shadow between the stars. So yeah I believe it was possible to see her break.
If on the surface it did break somewhat but not all the way down to the keel just the white parts of the super structure and as the bow pulled the stern down, once submerged under the water, the break zone keel it weakened and the crack got bigger and the keel gave out and the stern and bow separated with the superstructure debris between them crumbling into pieces underneath the water as the stern shot down and then imploded under the water with lots of explosions.
People testified they heard explosions once the Titanic was gone.
I don’t know if this makes any sense but my point is I believe she did kinda sink intact. But she did partly break on the surface but didn’t show her wound for more than a few seconds before it was concealed by the water. Exposed for enough time for some to see that she was breaking in two but not long enough for everyone else to see it hence the confusion on two or whole debat. She largely broke in two underneath the water giving the illusion of sinking completely intact.
The survivors I believe were both right she did sink both ways.
One just has to listen to both sides of the argument for the truth.
Or at least get a clearer idea of what was actually going on.
For I believe everyone should be heard no matter how conflicting opinions and statements might be. To just outright dismiss any claims of a break. One loses a considerable number of pieces of the puzzle.
Mmmm, actually, it was precisely in that context that I founded some parts of my theory. The striking thing is that some people said that the sea was illuminated and everything was seen perfectly, while others stated that nothing could be seen except its dark silhouette. Some claimed that the ship broke in two, while others claimed that the ship sank intact. Even people who were on board swore that the ship never broke up and that it sank intact. I have the following explanation for this: The lights go out completely after the second funnel falls; in fact, the same failure generates sparks coming out of its upper hole. After the funnel fell, amid panic and total darkness, many thought that the ship had already split in two, while those who were closer still saw the stern, And the propellers sticking out of the water. At this point, the bow completely under water, stretched with force, while the air in the stern towards it will rise, and its own weight bent the metal and split the wood of the decks. Since the second funnel fell, the total darkness caused many, if not most, of the passengers to stop paying attention to the sinking ship, for this reason, The last thing many people saw was the stern rising into the air until the lights went out, so they deduced that the stern ended up rising vertically and sinking in one piece. But others managed to see the ship break in two. The completely flooded bow stretched strongly from below, while the third funnel falls and the fourth remains Instead. When the stern falls backwards, people still on board the boat felt the fall, but they did not attribute it to a breakage, but rather to a more level final immersion, since, Finally the stern sank level with the sea, with few degrees of heel and inclination. The last thing seen of the ship was the top of the funnel still standing, and the stern mast. When the ship broke in two, the bow tore the central part, dividing the ship into 3 or even 4 parts (the central part). At this point, the bow was pulling strongly from below. Its total weight stretched from the stern, still afloat. After a few seconds, the metal plates (the double reinforced hull) It began to give way. In this way, as the bow stretched from below, it tore the entire lower part of the stern, stretching it no longer from the area of the break, but from the center. Finally, the bow came loose and with it two blocks of the double hull, which can still be seen separated on the bottom today. With the bottom torn off, the stern compartments simply did not work at isolating water from one another, which would have caused it to rise vertically, Therefore, since there were no functioning compartments, the water entered with force, flooding everything. The stern sank levelly, being at the same level and being covered by water at the same time The lifeboat deck and stern end. For this reason, when the people who were on the boat until the end were asked if it had broken in two, These people affirmed and swore that they did not, because they simply felt the stern fall, and then sink level, without rising vertically. On the other hand, the people in the lifeboats who ensured that the ship did not break up, It is because the last thing they saw of the ship was seeing it semi-vertical shortly before the lights went out, and they deduced that the ship sank intact and upright in the darkness. Furthermore, it should be noted again that many people claimed that the last thing seen of the ship was the fourth funnel and the mast. When some passengers said "it looked like a vertical needle towards the sky" they were referring to the mast, which looked vertical and high, the highest point of the stern sinking. I see that there are too many doubts and the community has a hard time accepting my theory, so in the long term I hope to make a much more professional animation about the underwater breakup And the damage to the stern after the breakup, which explains its level sinking.
Thanks for reading everything! I hope this gives you an idea of what the last minutes of the Titanic were really like. Also, thanks to T and me for creating this animation about my theory! It really is the best animation he could have made ❤️🩹😊
@@cochu444yt I think your theory is very good. I don’t think there is any acceptance needed, nor is there a right nor wrong theory as everyone’s theory is good because the more theories they are the closer to the truth we will all be. Every theory is equally as valid as anyone elses. Well whatever did happen that night was extremely extraordinary based on the extant of the debris field. The bow is largely intact but the stern looks horrendous with a huge debris field separating them and large tower debris. So the break up was something that was out of the ordinary. The put ourselves in their place on the ship as she broke. It must have been a living nightmare.
lol, at the end of this video they ran an advert for a cruise line.
Incredible work
Oh hello there :D
Aft grandstair😢
Sadly only 4 men would be pulled from the water only 3 would survive the night
Nobody ever shows the Titanic dropping through the depths, after it left the surface.
To me, that’s the most fascinating part of the sinking because… As huge as that ship is, the ocean is an astronomical eternity in miles deep and wide.
We would get an idea of just how far the ship sank.
Some videos do show it.
ua-cam.com/video/0ukNqreglyY/v-deo.html
But the full 2-mile journey would be boring, as most of it would be the same image.
27 years after James Camerons film the cgi is only a bit better
This look good
This has to be one of the most intense and dramatic Titanic sinking animation ever produced. Scary with the music too.
2:54 as interesting as this is, survivor testimonies do state that the ship pulled vertical and even swung over some of their heads as she did a 360° spin (normal for ships during final plunges to spin around sometimes)
This animation is incredible. Makes me feel bad for the people and the ship itself. Amazing work!
This animation is good, but i think you have gotten collapsible a and b mixed up when collapsible a gets cut free
I like this theory tho but the stern sinks like lusitania
Great animation-the scene of the aft grand staircase being destroyed was very powerful. But at 0:54 wasn’t it Collapsible A that got free from the falls? I think it’s noted as Collapsible B.
@@haroldanderson8884 thank you for noticing! I didn't realize before I uploaded it
The stern went vertical before it sank, bur other than that this is excellently done.
Наконец то хоть кто то показал кормовую парадную лестницу с куполом, которая находилась в районе разлома 👍👍👍
incredible
A very cool animation overall, very nicely done! I will offer a couple of quick critiques, if I may be so bold:
0:52 This is Collapsible A, not Collapsible B. Not quite sure if this was just a typo, as you correctly identify Collapsible B a few seconds later.
2:30 Many survivors described the stern rising back up to nearly vertical and beginning to twist clockwise (from a top-down perspective) after the breakup and not staying on a more or less even keel. Not quite sure if that is your contribution or @cochu444yt 's but yeah, that's the generally accepted version of the stern's sinking.
Again, this is merely constructive criticism, not meant to sound harsh or like you've done something "wrong." As I said, this is very well done overall and I loved every second! Nice job!
2:05 💅💅💅💅💅 well done
Every few years they change the angle of the breakup and the final plunge. Soon it will be oh she just went down absolutely flat and broke up underwater due to some other stupid reason.
Great work and what music is playing during this sinking Theory
@@johnnydao8056 don't remember the name but it should come up if you search dramstic suspenseful music
Must be difficult to get the lighting right and still be able to see what's going on; and in this matter your animation is the best yet
@@willhemmings thank you! I always spend a lot of time working on getting the lighting to be perfect
100% the stern section went vertical, basic physics says this, also some survivors said the same. Funny though none of the surviving officers said she broke, but many passengers were certain. Imagine being there, if ever time travel becomes a thing.
Wow
Imagínense todo los desaparecidos bajo las profundidades del mar que nunca van a volver ver la luz es simplemente triste
The stern sank like the luisitania
Keep going and your videos will more realistic than a backrooms k pixels video
Personally I don’t believe the dome ever imploded, I think once the staircase flooded, the wood ripped itself upwards due to its buoyancy and crashed upwards through the dome and skylight.
Just my personal opinion
I think it'd be interesting for you to run this theory of yours by Mike Brady (Oceanliner Designs) as well as the _Titanic: Honour and Glory_ team. You'll hopefully pardon the term use here, however if it can hold water (rimshot), then I feel like they're the kinds of people who would like to explore it, and take it into account.
@@BNuts this isn't my theory btw but yeah that's a cool idea
0:52 isnt that boat A?
@@RobloxFunX OH NO I JUST REALIZEF THAT FUCKKKKK
Fun fact: How the hell these people did not get crushed by falling 2nd funnel?
@@RedToxicHoodie people did
I don't understand why there's "theories". and why people act like there's mysteries when it comes to titanic is beyond me. We know what happened. People even testified to witnessing it break in half......
@@jaykapolka6111 testimonies give us a basic understanding of how she went down but what were trying to understand is exactly how she went down
0:54 why the hell is the collapsible a is called "b"?
@@William_James_Official minor miscalculation
@@TandMe oh ok
Decent animation. Kind of ignores the survivor testimony that all said the forward starboard LP cylinder slid out and caused an imbalance. This meant that the stern rose into the air again and was slowly turning to port and eventually sank facing East, towards England.
this is terrifying... also what is the music name
Also, I think the stern went vertical as the "poop deck" was beginning to go under, other than that, I believe this
@@a-guy1912 idk just search up dramatic suspenseful music and it'll probably come up
I tried to find it, I still haven't, if your on Cochu's discord server, mind going into the music area and sending the file there?
La gente dijo que parecia un dedo apuntando al cielo
Se referían al mástil de popa.
@@cochu444ytSeveral survivors specified it on being the stern that rose vertically into the air. Hardly anyone said it sank horizontally post break and the majority said it went vertical. Sorry for any offence, no offence meant.
@@IloveCruiseShips1912 In reality, my theory is precisely an attempt to include all the testimonies. The issue of the stern sinking horizontally is due to the testimonies of the "Sinking in one piece" It's the only thing that can explain it!
@@cochu444ytOnly a few said it sank in one piece, the majority were not sure or said it broke. Those that said it sank infact were either not in a good position to see, or might have mistook the lights going out as the ship disappearing. If it went vertical, the break area would definitely be underwater from the rising so no one would have seen the break area once the stern went vertical. It was also very dark that night so not everyone would be sure if it broke or not.
@@cochu444ytMost of those who said the ship sank intact more likely mistook the lights going out as the ship disappearing. Many witnesses seem to have mistook this and likely didn’t see the stern, even when it was rising due to the darkness and different POVs. Lightoller and Patrick Dillon who said it sank intact also said it went vertical or rose up when it sank.
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The stern is sinking wrong, it will raise up to 60 to 90o. However it still nice!
@PV-40TFS not my theory and thank you!
@@TandMe i know, i'm just say about the mistake of this theory
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excellent video and nice animations, but I don't agree with this theory at all
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isnt it agrreed that titanic stern lifted into the air?
@randomrazr yes but if you could read the title you can tell this isn't my theory so there's not much I can do about it
It actually lifted 3 times. The first was the 2-hour-long slow sinking, which caused the first break and the stern to go back down. Then there was the Big Plunge, where the stern went high in the air and the ship plunged down to the 4th funnel; then the ship broke completely, leaving the stern afloat. Finally, the stern rose a third time, nearly perpendicularly, before taking its final plunge.
Here are quotations about the second rise (the Big Plunge):
"Then she turned right on end and made a big plunge forward." (Officer Pitman)
"It seemed as though the stern of the boat, fully lighted up, stood up in the sky, suggesting one of our skyscrapers, so high did the outline mark the skyline. It then seemed to shoot or dive into the sea."
"As the Titanic plunged deeper and deeper we could see her stern rising higher and higher until her lights began to go out. As the last lights on the stern went out we saw her plunge distinctively, bow first and intact."
The ship was right up on end then. Suddenly she broke in two between the third and fourth funnel. (unknown source)
All at once she seemed to go up on end, you know, and come down about half way, and then the afterpart righted itself again and the forepart had disappeared. (Quartermaster Bright.)
It was partly a roar, partly a groan, partly a rattle, and partly a smash, and it was not a sudden roar as an explosion would be: it went on successively for some seconds, possibly fifteen to twenty, as [if] the heavy machinery dropped down to the bottom (now the bows) of the ship…. The probability of the noise being caused by engines falling down will be seen by referring to Figure 2, page 116, where the engines are placed in compartments 3, 4, and 5. As the Titanic tilted up they would almost certainly fall loose from their bed and plunge down through the other compartments. (Lawrence Beesley.)
…the great noise which was…when the ship was aslant… (Colonel Gracie, speaking about his conversation with officer Lightoller.)
I think the noise we heard was that of the boilers and engines breaking away from their seatings and falling down through the forward bulkhead. At the time it occurred, the ship was standing nearly upright in the water. (Col. Gracie quoting Samuel Rule.)
The boat seemed to lift up right out of the water and tilt up on end and then seemed to break and drop back. (Walter Nichols)
See also Lady Duff Gordon's account, which describes the first break, with the stern going back down, and "two minutes later" the 2nd break, and the stern rising the last time (she skips the Big Plunge, however).
@@billvanek5570 no no nno titanic sank in a v break confirmed by aaron1912
@@randomrazr Is this irony or not?
@@randomrazr V break is physically impossible because the bow had hardly any to no air in it at time of break and had way too much water to rise. Hardly any survivors said the bow rose. The majority said it disappeared post break and those that said they saw it or saw the bow rise more likely mistook the third funnel falling or forward tower breaking off as the bow. Sorry for any offence, no offence meant.
I don’t think the Titanic broke in half that way think about it the Titanic was not a crappy made ship it was very strong I think it’s just impossible for the ship to have broken in3 different sections. Also the stern sunk like in the movie we have survivor testimonies to prove it.
The reason theories show it breaking into 3 is because some witnesses testified a 3 section break. Some said it broke in the middle / infront of third funnel, others, aft of third funnel and some, directly infront of fourth funnel. Some didn’t specify on where it was. Plus, the evidence at the wreck shows 2 chunks of superstructure and numerous parts of the hull.
Even though it was a strong ship, when it was rising to 23 -30, it would have been subject to stresses no structure could withstand which would have caused it to break.
I agree with it going vertical, maybe not completely but to 65 - 75 degrees.
The theory presented in this video isn’t T and Me’s theory either. Sorry for any offence, no offence meant.
None taken
I think the reality of the stern sinking is probably somewhere in the middle. The movie is over the top sticking waaaay up in the air vertical, but on this animation it is too low. After the break the stern started filling with water making it sink but the heaviest portion of the section was right at the front where the engines were so that will have pulled the front down and pulled the very aft end up vertical. Most survivor accounts have the stern going vertical or near vertical but that point is probably a lot closer to when it finally slipped below the waves than in the Cameron movie.
Look at the sonar scans of the debris field; it broke into way more than 3 pieces. So you're correct that it was not poorly built, but it tried to go through what a ship cannot go through: losing a third of its support by the stern coming up. But I agree with you that the ship didn't break the way they show it in the movie or in all of the theory videos that are on UA-cam. All of the evidence shows that it broke in two stages. The first break was at the keel and the superstructure, at the first plunge, and the ship was not parted. The second break (the complete parting) came after the Big Plunge to a high angle. It took a lot to break such a strong ship.
Have You ever seen the movie!?
Ask James Cameron how it sank 😂
@barbsdash5078 OH HELL NAH I AGREE THIS IS INACCURATE BUT THERE IS NO WAY YOURE USING A MOVIE AS YOUR THEORY THATS AVTIALLY CRAZY
@@TandMe Dude, James Cameron studied that case for many many years, he actually discovered that the Titanic broke in two parts
Did you know that!? Of course You don't
@barbsdash5078 okay, let's begin, the angle of the ship in the 1997 film was extremely unrealistic, there was absolutely no way titanic could have ever reached an angle of 45 degrees before breaking. The second funnel not falling in the 1997 film is inaccurate as it goes against Jack Thayers account as he literally said the second funnel fell, it also goes against Thomas Lightollers testimony. Titanics break section is inaccurate as many survivors said that the ship broke in between the second and third funnel, you can also take a look at the thousands of publicly avaliable photos of the wreck and see that the ship broke in between the second and third funnel. Titanics lights remaining white during the sinking is also inaccurate as multiple survivors stated titanics lights went to a dim red glow during the sinking. The fourth funnel falling during the breakup is inaccurate as the force of the ship breaking would not be enough to cause the ship to collapse, and survivors said that the ship rose with the fourth funnel still standing. Titanic sinking with no list is inaccurate as ships do not sink without listing, that's not how physicics work, and of course there are many survivor testimonies that prove it talking about the angles of the lifeboats and the actions of the crew. The grand staircase windows breaking at the beginning of the final plunge and then a minute later the grand staircase having no water in it can be disproven with literal common sense. Captain Smith did not enter the bridge during the final plunge and kill himself as a survivor said Smith jumped over the bridge of the officers quarters. Please do not call me uneducated if you cannot even do as little as read survivor testimonies and please do not rely on literal movies to make theories on real world events 😁
@@TandMe I recommend you read more about it
Or go to where it sank, investigate and tell me, I can wait
@barbsdash5078 adding on to you asking me if I knew that and you calling me uneducated, no I did not know that because it is not true. It was Robert Ballard who discovered the wreck of the Titanic, and Jean-Louis Michel discovered the stern in 1985.
Cinematically beautiful, but the theory presented here does not match with the vast majority of survivor testimony nor evidence identified on the ocean floor.
I know you’re going to say it’s “not my theory,” but by animating this you have a duty to clearly disclaim that this is not backed up by the evidence or you risk propagating a falsehood and distortion.
It’s beautifully animated, yes, but there are some who might find this who will believe it to be historically accurate.
I think historical disortion is somewhat harsh. Theres a new expedition about to go out to the wreck to run a penetrative material scan of the whole structure, theres the possibility this new round of scientific evidence will help the understanding of the break up and the sterns sinking better. I dont think either the animator or the guy who came up with this theory are saying it absolutely happened their way. It was a pitch dark chaotic night and there was enough variation of survivor testimony that the authorities convinced the world for 73 years that the ship never broke up at all. All this amounts to is some discourse about the angle of the sterns sinking. If you want to see some real historical distortion check out CaljuCotcas recent dumpster fire of a Lusitania sinking. That ar$ehole made up a complete fabrication, insisted it happened his way and only his way and tried to shout down anyone who knew better.
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Why were all the passengers black ?
@Hot1765 too lazy to colour them
I no longer subscribe to the view that half the ship stuck up out of the water shortly before she split in half and foundered. Your animation is probably, at least, closer to the messy, violent, heart-wrenching reality that was the sinking of Titanic.
This isn't your animation
@Monke_orange ok bud can you send me the original animation
Plz my thery
So inaccurate. Victims described the stern rising straight up after the split.
@@harryclarkhulk read the title or the pinned comment, your choice
@@TandMe I did, I’m just saying that the theory is dated and inaccurate, that’s all.
Sorry, but no....
@@stjepanrepanic-gotal4689 I've got a tip for you, read the title and the thumbnail before thinking it's my theory because believe it or not if you look at my channel my name is not cochu 444, so maybe there is a possibility that this isn't my theory
@@TandMe there is no theory about sinking...not like this. It is more dramatic and cinematic as you show. But when engine pull the stern down, it was the end in few violent minutes.
Can't you read? Its not his theory..
@stjepanrepanic-gotal4689 ok cool I'm sure you know way more about the video than the person who made it
the ending is not historical accurate, it doenst match with the survivors account. why do you produce such crap?
yeah so basically you should read the title and you can understand that this actually isn't my theory
@TheTarget1980 Why don't you do some background research before commenting stupidly on other people's work? And remember: just because someone happens in one movie or many, doesn't mean it's "historically correct."
Are u blind? Its not his theory
@@Nomadik_Animations dont waste your time on somebodys wrong theory when survivors tell something else!
@@TheTarget1980You never learned to understand or interpret text, right? that sad
I like the theory until the sinking of the stern. It is not possible just because it SHOUKD go up in the stern side , when the nose side of the stern carries the dinamo machines , the weight of the upper decks and etc. And beside tgat a water is flowing throught the way where the ship broke up.