What's AN OLD COMIC YOU LOVE? Day 11 of 31 Days of Comics!
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
- Day 11 of 31 Days of Comics is a reprieve from the tyranny of Day 10, and with the prompt 'An Old Comic You Love', it gives us the chance to discuss what is meant by 'an old comic', how we feel about them, and - of course - the ones we love and why.
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I agree with the definition of an old comic being something published before I was born. If I have seen something on the stands brand new they will never seem “old” to me. I have come to really enjoy the older newspaper comics as well
The Daleks : TV Century 21 from 1965 to 1967
TV Century 21 was a weekly comic mostly devoted to Gerry Anderson shows and existed before I was born. When I was little I saw bits of this mentioned in other magazines, heard of it by word of mouth, but as time passed it became something almost from myth and forever lost to time and beyond my grasp.. and then a couple of years ago the part I was most interested in was collected and put out as a book. TV Century 21's Dalek strip, drawn and painted lovely art with that feel of something from the Buster Crabbe cinema serial golden age science fiction. Its a weird thing, its not a Doctor Who comic, its about the Daleks, those mad xenophobic pepperpots on a conquest of the galaxy. Its crazy, its cool, its beautiful, and probably one of the comics I never thought I'd get to own. I love it.
How interesting - I really want to look into this after your evocative description!
On a side note, you just reminded me of some Thunderbirds and Fireball XL5 comics that are gathering dust somewhere in the recesses of my shelves and I haven't seen in years! 😁
@@ftloc Sounds like a very Gerry Anderson adventure, the quest to find the comics that time forgot, don your yellow sash, take a ray gun, good luck!
I had a long thought about this one. While Alex Toth's Zorro comics and Alex Raymond's Flash Gordon/Rip Kirby sprung to mind immediately, I have to go with The Eternaut - published nearly 3 decades before my birth, it is one of the most rivetting and disturbing, yet incredible crafted comics I've read.
Now that the Eternaut has come up several times in the comments, I am forced to see that it is, indeed, an 'old' comic.a testament to how contemporary it feels!
I'm not that familiar with comics as old as Krazy Kat, but I'd choose one that is quite old and also still feels strangely modern and thematically relevant. The Eternaut by Héctor Germán Oesterheld and Francisco Solano Lopez.
Oh absolutely, that comic has not aged at all; I'd definitely put it as 'ahead of its time' but even that seems like selling it short!
I normally read novels, but recently got back into graphic novels for the first time since around the end of the Chris Claremont era. Naturally, I went around UA-cam trying to research. After watching MANY different UA-camrs, I have to say that you are without question the best on the platform. Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much; that is high praise and makes me want to live up to it! A very warm welcome to the channel and i hope you find plenty to enjoy here.
I too came back to comics after being a serious reader of only prose for a while, and talk about it across my videos and livestreams!
@@ftloc Your level of thought and analysis on what you present to your viewers is head and shoulders above anyone I've viewed. Just wanted you to know how good you are at this. Have a great day!
@@FollowSmoke ftloc is a great comics/mangas/BDs channel with archives that are gold mines.
the content is great, eclectic, positive. ftloc makes in-depth reviews, very calm, very friendly. AND ftloc reads and answers comments (ftloc = husband & wife, as far as I understood 🙂).
personally I appreciate the long, positive format.
I have recommended this channel to a lot to French speaking comics fans (and others).
Usagi Yojimbo is my favorite old comic especially the first issues absolutely enjoyed it and I still do.😊
Peerless, I say! 😁
I just don't classify it as old (although of course it is) since it is still running.
But a story from 40 years ago is a story from 40 years ago, no matter what!
Yeah I was thinking of that as well but its usagi so
An easier question at last! For this I'll go with Bernie Krigstein and Al Feldstein's Master Race from EC Comics' Impact title. I'd heard of it's importance long before I ever read it, but once I had, I could see just why it is so important to comics history, and even to how WW2 was portrayed in media. It still amazes me just how current it feels, and even while boxed into EC's formula of an eight-page story with a shock twist, it feels natural and not at all contrived. To me, it sadly demonstrates just how much the Comics Code Authority set back American comics by decades.
I too was astonished how that comic fit into the EC template! It really adds to that modern sensibility, that level of molding to format, along with all the central elements you've spotlighted.
Nancy is admired as a cartoonist's cartoon. About to read Bill Griffith's bio of Nancy and her creator.
I've really enjoyed what of Bushmiller's Nancy I have read, and was also just now reminded of my similar love for John Stanley's comics!
I would say an old comic is one that’s been with you for a while, that’s what I’m going with any way. Few comics have lasted on my shelves the nearly two decades of reading comics and graphic novels, but V for Vendetta has, in several forms, and I revisit it most years and love its dystopian, British, 1984 inspired world, with the anarchic V bringing it all down in such style. Art, story, all combine and are glorious.
I keep seeing things that are inspired by V in movies and TV so I'm guessing we aren't the only ones who keep going back to it!
I already used Prince Valiant so that leaves me with Flash Gordon by Alex Raymond. Specifically his work up till 1937.
It’s not as crisp as PV but it feels like it has more of a painter aspect.
I just read these for the first time last month and it’s a fun read.
I've only read Flash Gordon sporadically, but painterly is absolutely the word for it!
An easy pick would be Red Rackham's Treasure from my childhood. However, putting emphasis on the word 'old' made me think of the old comics I discovered as an adult. And if I had to pick one, it'd be Dennis O'Neil's Batman: There Is No Hope In Crime Alley, during the 70s when Batman in comics was being restored back to its dark and serious roots.
Those are both classics!
I'll go with Detective Comics #31. I was born in the mid 70s and the 1989 Batman hit at the perfect time for me. And even though I was into comics already, I was never into Batman until the movie was released. The comic stores were overloaded with all things Batman of course so I picked up a compilation, the Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told and the first story in the collection was Detective Comics #31 (and by extension #32.) I can't say why it drew me in so much. I initially thought the supernatural elements were ridiculous but they really drew me in afterwards. Maybe it was the sort of whimsical yet still dark take on Batman but that one just totally captured my imagination but it's still a comic I love reading to this day.
I'm about the same age as you, and I think me reading The Killing Joke just before I watched Burton's Batman made it a bit tame in comparison! 😁
But what a time to get into, and discover, Batman it was! Thank you so much for sharing!
I am not really a big reader of old comics, but I have recently discovered Will Eisner's The Spirit. His use of cinematic style makes this comic look great.
10 Motorgirl - Terry Moore
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8 Promethea - Alan Moore & JH Williams III
7 The Broons - Dudley D Watkins
Dotter of Her Father's Eyes - Mary & Bryan Talbot
5 2000ad
4Strangers in Paradise - Terry Moore
3 Norse Mythology - Neil Gaiman
2 Kane - Paul Grist
1 Swamp Thing - Alan Moore
I love The Spirit , in fact it may be my favourite work of Eisner's!
I’ve heard so much about Krazy Kat. Tried to get into it but the language used seemed hard to understand. I will definitely give it another try! For me, my favorite old comic would hands down be The Eternaut by Héctor Germán Oesterheld with artwork by Francisco Solano López!
That's a terrific comic, and a repeat pick in these comments!
And I know what you mean about the language. It is often written phonetically, which is exactly why reading it aloud (as silly as it may sound) really affects the feel!
Tintin. If there was a prompt for a comic that would best fit most of these categories would it be Tintin? I use that card here.
All Tintin albums except the last one were published before my birth(although the few first ones I dont care about)Tintin is also so obvious that it’s easy to forget how old it is. As a child I didn’t realize the age gap between Tintin and the other European classics like Asterix, Spirou etc. as for me they all had always existed and were a part of life like the sunrise.
The ”love” part was for me the most restrictive component in this one. I’ve read many old comics but rarely enjoyed them so much as to say I love them. The only other option that I could think of was Floyd Gottfredsons Mickey Mouse. I dont own any at the moment but they were drawn with a skill that was old school hard core and look amazing still today.
I, too, didn't realize how old Tintin was. Part of it may have been that in comparison to India in the 80s, the redrawn Tintins could have been seen as 'pretty recent past' instead of 'distant past' 😁. But there is also that influential style and those detailed backgrounds that make them seem almost timeless, visually speaking.
And yes, while I can intellectually appreciate many 'old' works, the connection that 'love' implies needs something more, and I too find it hard to summon for things too removed. Tintin and Asterix are easy examples, though, to show it is possible!
I have one volume of Gottfredson's Mickey Mouse, and it's not at all what I expected!
Gottfredsons Mickey is getting a Finnish translation in a collected format. I need to take a look at it before buying. As a child I had small booklet(in horizontal format to preserve strip structure) that had really good stories. A cat character tied knots to Mickeys tail and they competed of Minnies attention. Mickey also made a mini-golf course out of scrap wood and live animals(!). One customer hit three hole-in-ones with one stroke(ball was apple actually) and Mickey had to pay him reward. Silly stuff but imaginative. However Gottfredsons art, looking back even today, made the characters move like in a cartoon. After Gottfredson I have seen good Mickey stories mostly from Europe. Disney USA watered down the character so much that it lost its meaning.
And you need to write me about what you expected from Gottfredsons Mickey and how you felt after reading it! @@ftloc
I’m only starting to read a lot of the older stuff now so instead I’m going to pick a comic from when I was small. Commando Comics were short war stories I think published bi weekly by an English publisher and could be picked up in my local newsagent. It was so hard to get comics back then and so having access to Commando comics really built a foundation of comic reading for me. I figured out one time that my uncle also read them as a kid in the 60’s and so they’ve been around for a while. It was the covers that stood out for me, they were so dynamic and I’d try to recreate the story with my toy soldiers at home.
I read stacks and stacks of Commando comics, they were very popular and common here in India when I was young!
They were perhaps the first '100 per cent realistic' comics I remember reading, aside from the occasional historic biographies.
What I remember most (aside from those lush covers) was that many of them weren't rah rah, in fact quite a lot were ironic and anti war, something that made an impression on me.
@@ftloc yeah it’s been so long since I thought of them but your right they dealt with the horrors of war sometimes. I’m sure there is a UA-cam channel somewhere that can tell us some hidden gem commando comics. Garth Ennis must have enjoyed them as he writes great war stories now. Lion and the eagle was a great one recently.
I was going to say Barelli by Bob de Moor but then I looked at your question again and saw that there was no mention of a book.🤓 Door was wide open for comic strips that appeared in magazines and newspapers: King of the Royal Mounted. What made this strip so lovable were the villains and the stories that were so well written. There were comic books that collected these strips but I never owned one. Every week I got half a page at a time.❤ ... and the strip was mentioned. I only watched one minute of the video.😅
Yes, haha I definitely took advantage of that myself - if you go back far enough, the newspaper strip often precedes anything like the modern comic 'book'! And being a fan of De Moor's contributions to Tintin, I would love to take a look at this!
My first thought was a nostalgic comic from when I was a kid, because I haven't read many comics from before the 80's. It's mostly thanks to your channel that I've gotten interested in reading Tintin, Smurfs and Ducktales... I had never heard of Krazy Kat or Little Nemo... I'm going to have to go with: A Contract with God by Will Eisner. I read it a decade ago an it had a strong impact on me and opened up my eyes to comics beyond superheroes.
I love "A Contract with God" by Will Eisner.
Along with The Spirit, A Contract With God was instrumental in getting me more interested in 'older' comics!
- My favorite comic: Nausicaa of the valley of the wind by Hayao Miyazaki
- A comic to reccomend to anyone: Peanuts by Charles Schulz
- A great adaptation: 1984 by Fido Nesti
- A great love story: A taste of chlorine by Bastien Vivés
- My first comic pursued: Dampyr (various artists - italian comic series)
- Nonfiction comic: Pyongyang by Guy Delisle.
- Confort comic: Tin Tin by Hergé
- Gorgeous comic: Castle in the stars by Alex Alice
- A comic that blew my mind: V for vendetta by Alan Moore and David Lloyd
- The most beautil scene: A sea of love by Wilfrid Lupano
- An old comic I've loved: The Eternaut by Oesterheld
This is a great work of science fiction of the late '50s where common people fight to survive on an apocalyptic scenario. The story is really nice and well told. I really loved also how everything is focus on the characters and their relationship more than the action scenes.
"The Eternaut" by Oesterheld is a comic I have to read.
is the unfinished version drawn by Alberto Breccia also worth reading?
@@tinustinus571 I didn't have the opportunity to check it out.
It's worthwhile for Breccia or Osterheld completionists, I would say, but it is VERY truncated, and can't really be treated as a finished work. It definitely cannot stand next to the Solano Lopez version, which I thought was superb.
I think I talk about the Breccia one a bit in my Discoveries of 2021 video
@@ftloc thank you! I've rewatched your review. indeed, you talk a little bit about it. so, I will start with the version by Solano Lopez.
@@claudiomariotti95 thanks!
Krazy Kat is a good choice. I'd go with Gustave Verbeek's The Upside Downs of Little Lady Lovekins and Old Man Muffaroo, It's an early 1900s comic strip that really can't exist today. It thrived on the newspaper page because the strip was read right side up and upside down. The reader had to spin the page to read it both ways. It was a fantastical story and experimentally formally. I miss comic strips in local newspapers. I especially miss comics that were inventive--which happened before I was born.
It would be wonderful to see some of those replicated today, even in large sized books. I'm fine with rotating them!
And that's a lovely reflections on innovations in a form that itself ceases to exist one day...
@@ftloc Gustave Verbeek has been collected a few times. It may have been an older edition. I may pick it up later if I can, but it doesn't fit directly in my current research.
For 31 Days of Comics I normally like to put stories that I've either completed or have caught up to publication on, but for this one i just have to give it to the one I'm currently reading: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. For the sake of simplicity I'm only going to read the original 62 issue run, and man I'm glad I've chosen this one. It's ironic how well it takes subject matter so of it's time but deliveres it with a timeless energy that I find infectious exactly 40 years later. There's so much history to glean from it, you know, when you're not just having a blast. I'm 13 issues in so far and curious to read the rest.
I read the first volume of IDW's reprints and it definitely felt *very* different from any other depiction I have seen of the TMNT (granted, not that much in comics). Alas, I could never get my hands on the next volumes after that~!
I think for this one I'll go with something simple, though I realized that even that is rather hard, as the vast majority of my comics reading is contemporary comics and claiming that a book only a few years old isn't quite right for me. I'll go with Watchmen for this one as it should qualify with a decent age by now and is undoubtedly one of those books that just sticks with you.
No matter how old that makes me, it's a perfectly fitting - and perfect - pick!
Can’t go wrong with choosing that old comic strip. I suppose the further back in time we go the more we only have the very best of that era making onto our field of awareness.
My forst thought was little Nemo, but you made an even better choice.
That's absolutely true! The older it is, the more we rely on 'canonization' - and what Fantagraphics or Drawn & Quarterly or Sunday Press say was great (and therefore deserving of 'rescue'). It's safe to say that the vast majority of us would not be reading them in their original forms and the reprints/collected editions that keep or bring them back in our consciousness play a huge part in our choices!
Since they /some of them were published before I was born, I'll consider them old: the original Storm comics by Don Lawrence. My dad is/was really into these and he got me a poster too, which must have inspired some of my love for comics. It's not just nostalgia though, since I also think the worlds he dreamed up were just increibly imaginitive.
It's your pick, so any parameter you give it works fine! And while there is nothing in this prompt to keep us from going with 'just nostalgia' I have heard many good things about Don Lawrence's Storm, so I have no doubts it is one of those things that holds up to adult scrutiny. Now if only there was some way I could get my hands on some of those comics!
Year end holidays means i can finally watch all the videos i missed out due to busy schedule. Newspaper comics for me falls into a weird type of nostalgia. Im in my mid 20s meaning newspapers started becoming less preferred during my teenage as mobile/internet became more accessible. And from what i can remember, there was a weekly kids supplement in The Hindu which had comic strips and stuff that i used to look forward to every week. But unlike stuff im into since Childhood like Tintin (which im still a huge fan of) and Archie (which i read regularly till i was 16/17), my memory is blurry on what strips were the ones i used to like the most except Dennis the Menace.
For some reason the childhood Archies have all disappeared, but they were a huge block of my comics reading for many, many years!
@@ftloc I still have them in the back of my bookshelf, some of them are from 80s and have definitely yellowed beyond ideal conditions. I lost my childhood ACKs and Tinkles tho, i gave the remaining tinkles to my nephew but idk where the rest went, probably got lost while moving
@@pareekatti My Archies were definitely borrowed and never returned. That taught me a lot about lending out stuff! 😁
@@ftloc Some of the copies i have are from a library in my city that doesn't exist anymore, so those were probably borrowed as well
Dont know if this is old enough, but early days Mad Magazine is hard to beat as far as playfulness and creativity goes. Iconic, not only in the US!
Your pick, your rules, so of course it counts!
And yes, it's incredible how popular Mad was across the world!
The drifting classroom it formed everything i love and adore about horror manga.
It really does not feel like an old comic at all, does it?
@@ftloc nope completely unique and fresh everytime I see it.
I'd go with the first year or so of Siegel and Shuster's Superman. You can really see the evolution from the first few issues (which are strips that were intended for newspaper syndication pasted into comic book form). It's also simultaneously very recognizable as Superman but very different from the modern character in interesting ways. Lois Lane for example reads like the prototype of the character we have today, but Clark Kent/Superman is both meeker and rougher.
I remember those early Superman stories; yeah, he didn't mess around! 😁
Well that's easy. Tintin then Asterix. I'm sure that's super common, but I do love 'em.
It's good to have an easy prompt from time to time! 😁
I'm going with Tove Jansson's Moomins comic strips. I have the first five hardcover collections from Drawn and Quarterly, and it is the only traditional strip style comic that I've really loved.
Fantastic comics and again one of those that feel quite modern many times...
I don't tend to dive much into, like you described them, really old comics. To me they opperate in a language that I feel was still underdevelloped, where the texts and pictures tended not to cooperate and complement each other, but more so to reiterate and do their own thing. Many times they feel like texts WITH pictures, or pictures WITH texts, rather than an artistic language of its own. Of course this is probably because the linguistics of comics was just beginning to devellop back then, so it's hardly something anyone can judge as "bad"... it just was how comics "spoke". The issue is that I can't but feel a bit distanced from that language; it takes me out a lot from the comic itself... it diminishes my suspension of disbelief to say it somehow.
Now, that said, of course there are comics that I've read and liked that are "old" and even "really old", but I don't know if would say there's any I would go as far as to say I "love" them. There are a lot of comics from the time arround y birth, the early 80's that I absolutely love, but among the "really old" ones, following your parameters, I think the closest one would be "El Eternauta" (the Eternaut) from the 50's. Even though it sometimes falls into the text and pictures as somewhat separate narrative tracks, it manages to overcome the linguistic gap by offering a really interesting and immersive story, credible characters, and a lot of meta and subtext that encourages re-readings.
In my country, Chile, there's a comic from the late 60's called "Mampato" that's really, really loved by a lot of people. There's a whole geenration that grew up reading it and passed their love for it to their kids and so on. I personally don't have that nostalgia and intergenerational relationship to Mampato, but its a mighty fine comics for shure. It's an adventure story centered around Mampato, a young boy, who gets a time-travelling belt, befriends a caveman, a girl from the future and on may adventures. There's even a lot of social and political commentary as subtext to many of the stories (especially about empathy and colaborative vs. competitive societies and things like that... and if you consider the comic ran in a politically tummultuous period, including Chile's far right dictatorship, that was a ballsy move from the creators). As I said, I personally wouldn't say I "love" Mampato (just as with the Eternaut), but it's also a really good old comic I respect and like.
That is such a wonderful encapsulation of exactly why I find it hard to connect with very old comics (or maybe even very old novels, or films, to certain extents). If things are not fully formed, they are fascinating things to study, but it is hard to connect with them after being 'trained' by more evolved and sophisticated art that followed.
The Eternaut is something I can definitely understand 'love' for, though. The tension, the dread, and the changing pacing and plotting of the story really had me in the shoes of the characters, as well as wondering what would happen next (as a reader). This was a modern thrill that did get out of me 'love' for how well it was being evoked.
At the same time, it is rare and very subjective, as most things that have to do with 'loving' something are.
It's harder to do in comics, but I really do love the movies of Buster Keaton and Charlie Chaplin, both despite and because of their age.
For an old comic that was post my birth, I’d say Tom Strong 5 by Alan Moore, Jerry Ordway and Chris Sprouse. As an amateur historian, I love the idea of the Pangea supercontinent as a sentient landmass, while also admiring Jerry Ordway’s masterful pencil work.
For a truly old comic (created before my birth), I’m going to go with Amazing Spider-Man 75 by Stan Lee and John Romita Sr. From the extremely emotional Romita Sr cover, to the story that shares the repercussions of chasing your heart’s desire, even to one’s own detriment, it’s the total package.
See? This is why I parametered such things out of possibility - to think of Tom Strong as an old comic is to think of myself as an old man! 😁
@@ftloc lol well I’m right there with ya, read it as a young man of 23 back in ‘05.
Good to see you again. I agree with you about disinterest in reading "old comics," but there is also the divide between comic strip and comic book readers. I think in our circle it isn't an issue, but it exists. "My dad read the newspaper comics strips, while I read Batman." is the old refrain or something like that. It is amazing what the early 20th century produced like Little Nemo or Krazy Kat as you highlighted. An artform indeed.
Greetings sir!
And yes, I realise it was the old Sunday pages that really finally got me to embrace older newspaper strips. Having the full page, and seeing what was done with the space, was a bit more impressive and seductive than the daily strips!
"Dream of the Rarebit Fiend" by Winsor McCay published in 1904
I don't know this one! Is there any review of it by @ftloc ❓💭
I don't think so but he has taken a look at "Little Nemo in Slumberland" by the same Author, if you like what you see there you'll be interested in this title @@tinustinus571
@@donovansloan7595 ok thanks! I have watched his reviews of "Little Nemo", and I am currently reading it. but I did not know this other comic by Winsor McCay.
Yes, I mention Rarebit Fiend in the McCay/Nemo video, but apart from the samples there, I've never seen a separate volume of those pages - is there one available?
@@ftloc when you say "those pages" you mean some years in particular?
The Phantom by Lee Falk and Ray Moore. The prototype for masked superheroes. Also love the mantle passing down the generations creating the legend of The Ghost who Walks.
It was many years before I realised the Phantom stories I was reading even as a kid were 'old' , I thought they were contemporary! 😁
Newspaper comics never really made it to my collection. Krazy kat looks great, and I will definitely check it out. First I was considering the Bayeux Tapestry, one of the oldest 'comics' , but although it intrigues me it is not something I love. Gaston Lagaffe (Guust Flater in Dutch) I do love, and despite it not being that old, it still is going to be my pick.
Haha, the Bayeux Tapestry! It would definitely qualify in some ways, but yeah, 'love' is the thing that's hard to locate when talking about really old cultural artifacts. But I'm hearing so much about Gaston in these Days of Comics; I need to look into it!
i saw the title and i was like "i swear to god if it isnt krazy kat............"
Haha well done indeed! 😁
As we’re not being definitive (thank goodness), I’m picking silver age Superman. They’re corny and goofy, but the art is great and the stories are one and done and the status quo restored at the end so you can read the stories in any order and virtually nothing is changed, perfect comfort reading that you can just dip in and out of.
I'm only lightly familiar with the Silver Age Superman but the Legion of Superheroes and Superboy from around then or the early 80s were some of the most endearing adventures, and I love the aspect of reading any issues in any order!
What you said could have been my answers. Even going to the definition of old (anything before I was born (eg. a day of 1975) I consider to be "ancient history", after I was born (e.g. a day of 1980) can be referred to as "the other day") Pretty funny and egocentric my concept of time isnt't :D?
Although Krazy Kat is an excellent choice and Palookaville could be also concidered the old comic I love the most for all reasons but its creation date my choice will be the MAD comic by Harvey Kurtzman
Being aware only of the MAD magazines recent ("recent" as in post-1977 incarnations) I was amazed by the range of artist styles and its boldness in breaking through any kind of expectations. But beyond its ingenuity it was the range of its covers after issue 11 that made me love it. It was to me like discovering that someone with the inventiveness Chris Ware was there in the 50s (long before he was born) providing every month an unexpected view on what the comics cover could or should be.
11 - old comic you love: H. Kurtzman's MAD - H Kurtzman and more people
10 - most wonderful scene: Rite of Spring (Swamp Thing #34) - Moore/Bissette/Totleben/Wood
9 - comic that blew your mind: From Hell - A.Moore and E.Campbell
8 - gorgeous comic : Acme Novelty Library HC - Chris Ware
7 - comfort comic : Peanuts - Charles Schultz
6 - nonfiction comic to recommend to people who don't do nonfiction : Andre The Giant: Life and Legend - Box Brown
5 - first comic series pursued : Asterix
4 - great love story : Ethel and Ernest - Raymond Briggs
3 - great adaptation from another medium : City of Glass - David Mazzucchelli and Paul Karasik
2 - comic to recommend to anyone : Fred The Clown - Roger Langridge
1 - favorite comic : 2000AD
You've pinpointed the exact inconsistency that my own age and lifetime makes in such classifications! 😁
Krazy Kat as well is mine. It's actually my favorite comic, period. So so good!!!!
You have great taste! 😁
For me it would be the western Blueberry by Charlier and Giraud (Mœbius). Only read it as an adult so no nostalgia, can really appreciate the epic art and flow of the story.
And here I am, yet to get my hands on any Blueberry whatsoever! 😕
There iis no discussion: Hal Foster’s Prince Valiant! Krazy Kat is also a brilliant choice!
Hal Foster could have had a couple of comics up here, but I would have to agree that from what I have read so far, Prince Valiant is perhaps his greatest achievement!
Plastic Man by Jack Cole
I've only seen a couple of issues, but I really enjoyed what I saw! Is there a collected edition of any kind?
@@ftloc DC put out the Archive Editions in the late 90s and early 2000s collecting Plastic Man’s early adventures in Police Comics 1 through 77 and Plastic Man 1 through 10. Currently PS Artbooks is releasing softcovers with 3 volumes out collecting Plastic Man 1 through 12 and two more volumes solicited which should collect through to issue 20. These stories are so fun and Jack is endlessly inventive with ways of using Plastic Man’s stretchy powers. Genuinely hilarious and bizarre series
To my shame Krazy kat just bounced off me when I first read it and I've never got around to retrying it and long since sold the collection I had. So many folks I really respect think that its the best comics every I really should try it again. One day I will, so many great comics to read.
Anyway for me this one is easy. There are quite a few great comics created before I was born - the definition I'd go with BUT I like the idea of going back as far as I can and go with the oldest comics I absolutely love and I think that takes me to Will Eisner's The Spirit. Anything early I have liked but never LOVED. Eisner's Spirit has some social values of the day that don't really survive modern reflection BUT as a piece of craft its timeless and just so good.
I have all of the old Kitchen Sink comics. I do want to one day get a bigger format reissue as I think the astonishing art really deserves it. Its so good through, the pages so strong that it easy survives strinking down to regular comic size.
Krazy Kat is definitely not easy to get in to, and the language has a lot to do with it! The reading aloud trick really helped me, not just to understand but appreciate it in a different way than I was used to appreciating comics. It also allowed the idea of accent and inflection to play a bigger part in characterization, which is essential when you have characters as fluid (in gender and other norms) as those in the comic.
Matching it with the absurdity, the non sequitrs, the 4th wall breaks, the meta-commentary - all of these don't make it easy to read necessarily, but I would say I found it challenging in the way that I would find modern experimental and avant garde stuff to be interesting, not because it was old or outdated, if that makes any sense.
@@ftloc Ha! I can just picture my wife's reaction to that - I typically read in the living room while she watches telly.
"Look I know you love your comics but talking to them as you read is just going too far. We need to talk about this!"
My kids however would just shrug their shoulders, nod and say
"Yep saw that coming..."
haha the kids will understand!
Honestly, I don't have one. But now you've made me curious to seek one out. I have seen snipets of Prince Valiant and that one has me a little curious.
I think Prince Valiant is beautiful and one doesn't have to be comprehensive (unless you absolutely fall head over heels in love) so picking up whatever you can find easily is a good way to go!
there is a long article online in "The Comics Journal" about Krazy Kat.
"Krazy: George Herriman, A Life in Black and White" by Matthias Wivel, April 26, 2017
I'm going to have to look that up, thanks!
@@ftloc you can find also find a long interesting article about "Krazy Kat" online in "The Paris Review":
"E. E. Cummings and Krazy Kat" by Amber Medland July 20, 2022
Astro boy by Osama tezuka.
A classic!
I’d pick the Gottfredson Mickey Mouse wonderful adventure based comic strips. Segar’s Popeye would be a close second.
I have really enjoyed what little I have read of Gottfredson's Mickey, I think I talked about it in my very first livestream!
And Segar's Popeye is just great!
i say silver age batman by dick sprang i love it so much the art style the brush work
i own batman the silver age omnibus and i love the print job the lines are so clean and the colors very vibrant
newspaper strips i love before my time
besides krazy kat of course a masterpiece
i aalso love
Bushmiller's Nancy and
Hagar the horrible
i love them
Dick Sprang is the definitive Batman artist pre-Neal Adams for my money, though I prefer his earlier golden age stuff (Birth of the Batplane II and Jungle Cat Queen) to the silver age stuff.
@@joncarroll2040 i love all of the Dick Sprang age !!! his early work is better than the latter work no doubt
I feel sure I have read some Batman comics by Sprang (did his stories feature Robin as a co lead?) but can't be 100% now...
do you have Ponni's Selvan comics? Ponni's Selvan Comics in English. It will be very good. Five parts in total. Selling by NELA COMICS
Here I have to select comics that started been published in 1938 in Czechoslovakia before WWII. It's comics Rychlé šípy and it's about fictional club of five boys.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rychl%C3%A9_%C5%A1%C3%ADpy