Not lost and forgotten by us locals. Living just below the old Upper Sydenham ticket officeI personally keep a watchful eye on both the Paxton tunnel and crescent wood tunnel and have checked that the old ticket office will remain protected. Lovely video, thank you.
Thank you so much for your appreciation - I'm really glad you enjoyed it. What a lovely place to live as well it seems to me. As it happens, a couple of my favourite bits of the video (am I allowed favourite bits???) are firstly making the tracks appear in the modern undergrowth leading into the north portal of the Crescent Wood tunnel at Upper Sydenham station, and secondly revealing the route to the booking office and tracks below again at Upper Sydenham station, all around 11-12 minutes. But the best thing is if you enjoyed it without doubt!
Thank you. Seriously. You mention photo merging. Do you mean slide 11 the turntable beneath Farquhar Road bridge? Or slide 75 Upper Sydenham station? Maybe slides 78-80 Upper Sydenham station (my favourites)? Or slide 90 Lordship Lane station in the woods? I found out how to do this by accident. But the result i rather like. i'm glad you do too!
Sadly, I fear you are right. Ridiculous to have destroyed this line and then replaced it with the tram system costing £m of tax payers cash! Glad you like the music. Did you read the intro notes? If not, it is as follows: Track 1, 3, 5: Signal to Noise Track 2: Wayfarer Track 4: Castles in the Sky Each track is by Scott Buckley (www.scottbuckley.co.au) and licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International Licence. The tracks have been modified by me so they may fade in or out, and may be shorter than the original. The original music I used when the presentation had 87 slides was 'Memorial' by Michael Nyman. But using this became impossible when the number of slides increased plus the copyright police would never have allowed it to be used here!
Used to play there as a child in the 1960's. The platforms were still there at Lordship lane station . Pissiro painted his famous picture on the bridge there.
Hello Dave. Apologies for my slow response. I know we've communicated before (in railwaychristina3192's comment) and thank you for your kind words - appreciated.
Excellent detective work & mapping. I used to live in Sydenham (in mid-60s until mid-70s) but well after the line closure. Many views & photos were familiar, particularly up off Crystal Palace Parade and below Sydenham Hill. Thanks for your efforts and sharing..
Thank you so much for your kind comments. I've said elsewhere that this video isn't promoted - rather, it sits here for the enthusiast to find if they have a mind to look. If you enjoyed it and recognised places you know then so much the better!
I don’t know how but a bunch of us walked the length of the tunnel in the early 70s aged 13 or 14 without any torches or matches 😮 ..very scary. What a lovely video, bought a tear to my eye seeing all the old places we explored as kids....
Wow! I would love to be able to do that - but think I'd want a torch! But which tunnel do you mean? I'm guessing you mean the Paxton tunnel at the Crystal Palace High Level station site? Or did you mean the Crescent Wood tunnel at the Upper Sydenham station site? If you noticed my photo of inside the Crescent Wood tunnel from the south portal (slide 68), you might think it was taken from inside the tunnel. Not so! That photo is a complete flukeI The gates had a tiny gap in the middle where there was a padlock hanging. I managed to squeeze my hand and small camera through the gap, then just 'clicked' and hoped. The photo came out far better than I expected. However, one day I was walking the route & found the Crescent Wood tunnel north portal gates in Sydenham Hill Wood open. The bat roost people were doing some maintenance and we chatted. Then they actually let me look inside! Not very far but it didn't matter. At least I've been in one tunnel! The Crescent Wood tunnel north portal is as shown in slides 81, 82 & 83, slide 83 being from 'The Disappeared' movie.
It was the high level tunnel. There were railings and a gate back then and the gate had been broken open . Once you get around the bend in the tunnel you could see light coming in the Sydenham end. Unfortunately the Sydenham end was locked when we got there 😂. Also we used to go through the the Italian subway under the parade regularly. This was our shortcut to Crystal Palace park as we lived in the Gypsy hill area . Or we would bunk on a train at Gypsy hill to Crystal Palace if we couldn’t be bothered to walk..Also , does anyone remember the huge empty reservoir and pale greeny blue water tank at the TV mast end? I remember it being used as a rally training school and seeing cars flying about if ever I passed by on the top deck of a bus...
@@willmorrison8357 Great! Thanks so much for providing the extra detail. Like I said, I'd love to be able to walk the tunnel! too. Am familiar with the Italian subway as you know but I never saw the blue water tank you mention though think I know where it was located.
In the late 50's my friends used to play in the ruins of the High Level, getting in down the side of the entrance nearest the tunnel then climbing through the window into the station, most of the floor boards had been removed and you could see down to the track bed, going left toward the roundabout end it was possible to get into the subway, it had been bricked up but there was a gap in the top. We climbed all over the tunnel- end of the station even up into the roofing area, looking back it was very dangerous but at the time great fun, keeping an eye out for the site guards, being chased down to the tunnel and climbing up it, sitting there with legs dangling and taunting the watchmen. We did walk the tunnel, i remember the bend halfway, very spooky.
Oh boy! I cannot tell you how much I wish I'd been able to see the High Level station in real life before its demise. Indeed play in it as you did! What a joy!
This is so well researched and presented It must have taken many days to put together Thanks so much for this I found it fascinating So much has been lost I worked for a quantity surveyor many years ago when St Pancras was the headquarters of BR Travellers Fare food buffet service I had access to the whole building including the Hotel railway subway How I regret that I did not take my camera in and take loads of photos It would have been a treasure trove of history
Thank you so much for your kind words, they are very much appreciated - and I'm glad you enjoyed it. FYI the original version I made had far fewer slides (87) but it crept up to 135 as I gathered more evidence. I appreciate what you say too about the presentation and hope the comments provide enough, but not too much, information in order to explain and keep the interest without going on too long or being rushed. Obviously I don't appear in the video as some do - I wanted this to be about the stations and line, not me. The original music was 'Memorial' by Michael Nyman which, at 12 minutes and one second, was just about the right length as well as being perfect considering the subject matter and title. I'd never have got away with using it though in the published version (copyright!), plus I didn't want to try and mash-up an extended version. Details of the current music are, of course, in the introductory notes which I'm guessing you've seen. Really interesting as well what you say about St. Pancras. I used it pre-restoration when it seemed like a tiny, grubby, cramped, forgotten station, and the entrance I used from the underground was in the very far left corner through what is now the floor (if you stand with tracks behind you). Never imagined for a second that something like the undercroft existed, or that the architecture was so splendid! If only you'd taken those photos! Thank you again!
Superb presentation and amazing research! Those old black and white photos of lost stations and lines are so evocative of their time. Strange how even railways in urban areas have become lost. But then again, that area of London is not exactly short of stations!
Thank you for your kind words - I'm really grateful and glad you enjoyed what you saw. It was a labour of love for me to make so if you like it too, great!
What an absolutely lovely presentation! Many thanks for your hard work, capturing, editing and putting this together for us armchair enthusiasts. I watched this over a few hours, splicing it with y own 'Sherlock Holmes' via street view etc. This has made me want to retrace even though I'm not a Londoner. A well-deserved 'SUBSCRIBED' from me 👍
Thank you so much - I'm really flattered! If it captures your imagination and inspires you to look deeper, so much the better! The last slides I made were the ones at the end tracing the route. They were a bit of an after thought but it just struck me one day they might be helpful revealing what could once be seen. Not everything can be found on 'street view' so hopefully the gaps have been filled in!
Wow! Thank you so much marcin giebultowski. I'm very flattered. Seriously! If you read the intro you know this is something I did originally for my own interest only. I never thought about sharing it or considered that others might like it. But once it was complete (to be fair, sometime after it was complete!) I thought I'd post it for anyone who is interested. Unlike others, I don't do any promotional activities so my video lies here hiding in plain sight. Anyway, I'm just glad you found and enjoyed it. Thank you again!
Some of those locations, tunnels, the site of crystal palace, soo much opportunity for a museum, could easily lay a short stretch of tracks and once again travel through those tunnels. Particularly with the ornate underpass being restored
@lindat2009 - Sorry! My head is hung in shame!! I should've replied to you before and I regret I didn't. There is, of course, a museum on the Crystal Palace site but sadly it doesn't really feature the High Level station or railway. I'm also slightly nervous about any restoration of the underpass. Only time will tell if its respectful and appropriate!
Really? Thank you. Seriously. I'm so glad you enjoyed it. I sometimes think I should've presented it. But I'm glad I didn't. It's not about me. Its about the history & the railway!
I have two only known photographs of the railway bridge over Forest Hill Road before and after demolition of it with the two brick piers on either side of the road.
Thanks for letting me know - they sound really interesting. I do have at least one photo taken after the bridge was demolished, noticeably displaying a 'Drinka Winter Pinta' poster on the side of the remaining pier. I also have what I think must be a very rare photo taken in 1955 of the bridge before demolition. Certainly it's the only one I remember ever seeing. In this photo the bridge is viewed from the 'down' side i.e. the side where trains travelling south (left) toward Crystal Palace stopped. The slip road leading to Honor Oak station ticket office and a metal perimeter fence are seen in the foreground. The same road and fence are visible in slide 117 along with the ticket office though from a different angle. The bridge is seen quite clearly above with a lorry emerging from beneath it. The lorry is heading toward Honor Oak and elsewhere (e.g. Lewisham) with Peckham in the opposite direction. The only reason I didn't use this photo in the presentation is that it does contain a water mark. While annoying, it's a good view of the bridge but I thought consequently it wasn't quite right for the finished slide show.
During the late seventies and early eighties my friends and I used to explore the high level station and that beautiful brick subway, it was fenced off but it was still easy to gain access to those areas. The south portal to the Paxton tunnel was not gated at that time so unfortunately it became a haven for glue sniffers. Still this brings back many happy memories of my childhood
Glad to hear it - but not the station surely as that was demolished in 1961/62. Sadly I only became aware of the tunnels etc later - I'd loved to have seen them in their glory days.
I have photos of Lordship Lane bridge with a tram going underneath it and also being demolished. Also in my collection, I have photos of the bridges at Forest Hill near Camberwell Old Cemetery and Kelvington Road, further down Brenchley Gardens, intact and being demolished, but I have yet to find photos of the bridge at Brockley Way. I am currently making a model of Lordship Lane station and the model railway club I belong to have built a model of the Crystal Palace High Level station. The John Gale book is a very well researched book.
Hello garycross228. I trust you've seen slide 105 which has a tram near Lordship Lane bridge. Is your photo different? If so I'd love to see it please. I'd also love to see the other photos you mention if they are different to what you see in the slide show. And a model of Lordship Lane station? Fantastic! Tell me where I can see it and I'll be there!! I've seen the amazing Crystal Palace High Level station model online and again would love to see it for real. As stated in my intro, I can be contacted at bradmarshall999@gmail.com
I think 2:242:35 are not taken from the same view, 2:37 is correct, photographer was supposed facing north raised concourse ,which had wider stairs. 2:24 was looking south, notice the narrower stair and shrinking platform.
Hello @dalershavalon4612. Thank you for mentioning this - I appreciate it. Slide 17 at 2.24, with the station in it's prime, is a view of platforms 1 and 2 from the tunnel end i.e. from the northern end looking south toward the turntable end (though I did not put that in the caption). Slide 18 at 2.35 shows platforms 3 and 4 from the turntable end i.e. from the southern end looking north toward the tunnel end. In addition to the evidence you mention, the sign at concourse level is in view at the far (northern) end as seen most clearly in slide 29 at 4.19, for example. How did it happen? I really can't say. But thank you for your eagle eyes! The correct information is now given in the video description.
That is so sad, I did dream for a moment as where I live they have victorian weeks and I have some so I did just imagine thank you .😢 But then I saw what was to come next 😡
Appreciate your comments, thank you. When you say "dream" perhaps you are referencing the two slides that invite you to 'close your eyes and dream a little, if you wish'? If you are, I enjoyed making these but am not now sure where the idea came from! If memory serves, I somehow created the first one by accident (slide 11: looking at the turntable beneath Farquhar Road) but liked it so decided to include some more (the second one being slide 75 - looking down at the Upper Sydenham station site from above). There are others, of course, if you include the sequenced view of Upper Sydenham station appearing from the past alongside the station house (slides 78, 79, 80) and the view from Cox's Bridge to Lordship Lane station with the train hidden amid the trees (slide 90). I guess I just liked the idea of letting your mind drift while imagining how the scene once was, and perhaps trying to place yourself there! Sadly you are quite right though - your last comment sums it up! So much for 'progress' .........................
Thanks for your comment and glad you like it. I don't promote videos like other people seem to but hopefully others will find it too if they're interested.
I absolutely agree - an appalling act of architectural vandalism. Given the destruction almost overlaps with that of the famous Euston Arch (and station), I don't suppose Crystal Palace stood much chance. The same can be said of the delightfully ornate station house at Lordship Lane station.- the lack of vision is breathtaking.
@@bradleymarshall7395 ...The only picture I have seen of Lordship Lane is the painting by Pissarro. Council idiots of the same ilk who destroyed Nottingham Victoria and the Bowstring Bridge in Leictester. The Nunhead/ Crystal Palace route would be so useful today and could have even survived as part of the Tramlink.
@@railwaychristina3192 If the line had survived the tramlink probably wouldn't have been needed (and £ millions saved)! As regards Lordship Lane station house, check out slides 100, 102, and 103 in my slideshow. It was apparently so ornate because the land it was built on belonged to Dulwich College, the nearby public school, and the school insisted on such a design as part of giving permission for the station to be constructed (I've not said that in the slideshow). Lordship Lane station as a whole runs from slide 88 to slide 105 - slide 88 itself being Pissarro's painting.
@@bradleymarshall7395 Thank you. Yes the line curves around Horniman garden near the museum and is a nature walk. What a waste of the magnificent Crescent Wood and Paxton tunnels..
Not lost and forgotten by us locals. Living just below the old Upper Sydenham ticket officeI personally keep a watchful eye on both the Paxton tunnel and crescent wood tunnel and have checked that the old ticket office will remain protected. Lovely video, thank you.
Thank you so much for your appreciation - I'm really glad you enjoyed it. What a lovely place to live as well it seems to me. As it happens, a couple of my favourite bits of the video (am I allowed favourite bits???) are firstly making the tracks appear in the modern undergrowth leading into the north portal of the Crescent Wood tunnel at Upper Sydenham station, and secondly revealing the route to the booking office and tracks below again at Upper Sydenham station, all around 11-12 minutes. But the best thing is if you enjoyed it without doubt!
What a superb video - well researched and fantastic photo merging. Really enjoyed it. Thanks.
Thank you. Seriously. You mention photo merging. Do you mean slide 11 the turntable beneath Farquhar Road bridge? Or slide 75 Upper Sydenham station? Maybe slides 78-80 Upper Sydenham station (my favourites)? Or slide 90 Lordship Lane station in the woods? I found out how to do this by accident. But the result i rather like. i'm glad you do too!
@@bradleymarshall7395 I think it’s particular there ones of the higher station .. although it’s all just fascinating.
Loved this presentation thank you
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it.
Nothing changes for the better these days. Very appropriate music.
Sadly, I fear you are right. Ridiculous to have destroyed this line and then replaced it with the tram system costing £m of tax payers cash!
Glad you like the music. Did you read the intro notes? If not, it is as follows:
Track 1, 3, 5: Signal to Noise
Track 2: Wayfarer
Track 4: Castles in the Sky
Each track is by Scott Buckley (www.scottbuckley.co.au) and licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International Licence. The tracks have been modified by me so they may fade in or out, and may be shorter than the original.
The original music I used when the presentation had 87 slides was 'Memorial' by Michael Nyman. But using this became impossible when the number of slides increased plus the copyright police would never have allowed it to be used here!
Used to play there as a child in the 1960's. The platforms were still there at Lordship lane station . Pissiro painted his famous picture on the bridge there.
Thanks for your comment - it's appreciated. The famous picture you mention appears in the slideshow at 13.10 as I'm sure you've seen.
Superbly put together video. Lovely stuff. Thank you for making and posting this!
No, thank you. I'm just so glad you enjoyed it!
Wonderful stuff. I've done my own researches on this and it's both fascinating and sad about what has been lost.
Hello Dave. Apologies for my slow response. I know we've communicated before (in railwaychristina3192's comment) and thank you for your kind words - appreciated.
Excellent detective work & mapping. I used to live in Sydenham (in mid-60s until mid-70s) but well after the line closure. Many views & photos were familiar, particularly up off Crystal Palace Parade and below Sydenham Hill. Thanks for your efforts and sharing..
Thank you so much for your kind comments. I've said elsewhere that this video isn't promoted - rather, it sits here for the enthusiast to find if they have a mind to look. If you enjoyed it and recognised places you know then so much the better!
I don’t know how but a bunch of us walked the length of the tunnel in the early 70s aged 13 or 14 without any torches or matches 😮 ..very scary. What a lovely video, bought a tear to my eye seeing all the old places we explored as kids....
Wow! I would love to be able to do that - but think I'd want a torch! But which tunnel do you mean? I'm guessing you mean the Paxton tunnel at the Crystal Palace High Level station site? Or did you mean the Crescent Wood tunnel at the Upper Sydenham station site?
If you noticed my photo of inside the Crescent Wood tunnel from the south portal (slide 68), you might think it was taken from inside the tunnel. Not so! That photo is a complete flukeI The gates had a tiny gap in the middle where there was a padlock hanging. I managed to squeeze my hand and small camera through the gap, then just 'clicked' and hoped. The photo came out far better than I expected.
However, one day I was walking the route & found the Crescent Wood tunnel north portal gates in Sydenham Hill Wood open. The bat roost people were doing some maintenance and we chatted. Then they actually let me look inside! Not very far but it didn't matter. At least I've been in one tunnel!
The Crescent Wood tunnel north portal is as shown in slides 81, 82 & 83, slide 83 being from 'The Disappeared' movie.
It was the high level tunnel. There were railings and a gate back then and the gate had been broken open . Once you get around the bend in the tunnel you could see light coming in the Sydenham end. Unfortunately the Sydenham end was locked when we got there 😂. Also we used to go through the the Italian subway under the parade regularly. This was our shortcut to Crystal Palace park as we lived in the Gypsy hill area . Or we would bunk on a train at Gypsy hill to Crystal Palace if we couldn’t be bothered to walk..Also , does anyone remember the huge empty reservoir and pale greeny blue water tank at the TV mast end? I remember it being used as a rally training school and seeing cars flying about if ever I passed by on the top deck of a bus...
@@willmorrison8357 Great! Thanks so much for providing the extra detail. Like I said, I'd love to be able to walk the tunnel! too. Am familiar with the Italian subway as you know but I never saw the blue water tank you mention though think I know where it was located.
In the late 50's my friends used to play in the ruins of the High Level, getting in down the side of the entrance nearest the tunnel then climbing through the window into the station, most of the floor boards had been removed and you could see down to the track bed, going left toward the roundabout end it was possible to get into the subway, it had been bricked up but there was a gap in the top. We climbed all over the tunnel- end of the station even up into the roofing area, looking back it was very dangerous but at the time great fun, keeping an eye out for the site guards, being chased down to the tunnel and climbing up it, sitting there with legs dangling and taunting the watchmen. We did walk the tunnel, i remember the bend halfway, very spooky.
Oh boy! I cannot tell you how much I wish I'd been able to see the High Level station in real life before its demise. Indeed play in it as you did! What a joy!
This is so well researched and presented It must have taken many days to put together Thanks so much for this I found it fascinating So much has been lost I worked for a quantity surveyor many years ago when St Pancras was the headquarters of BR Travellers Fare food buffet service I had access to the whole building including the Hotel railway subway How I regret that I did not take my camera in and take loads of photos It would have been a treasure trove of history
Thank you so much for your kind words, they are very much appreciated - and I'm glad you enjoyed it. FYI the original version I made had far fewer slides (87) but it crept up to 135 as I gathered more evidence. I appreciate what you say too about the presentation and hope the comments provide enough, but not too much, information in order to explain and keep the interest without going on too long or being rushed. Obviously I don't appear in the video as some do - I wanted this to be about the stations and line, not me.
The original music was 'Memorial' by Michael Nyman which, at 12 minutes and one second, was just about the right length as well as being perfect considering the subject matter and title. I'd never have got away with using it though in the published version (copyright!), plus I didn't want to try and mash-up an extended version. Details of the current music are, of course, in the introductory notes which I'm guessing you've seen.
Really interesting as well what you say about St. Pancras. I used it pre-restoration when it seemed like a tiny, grubby, cramped, forgotten station, and the entrance I used from the underground was in the very far left corner through what is now the floor (if you stand with tracks behind you). Never imagined for a second that something like the undercroft existed, or that the architecture was so splendid! If only you'd taken those photos!
Thank you again!
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Superb presentation and amazing research! Those old black and white photos of lost stations and lines are so evocative of their time. Strange how even railways in urban areas have become lost. But then again, that area of London is not exactly short of stations!
Thank you for your kind words - I'm really grateful and glad you enjoyed what you saw. It was a labour of love for me to make so if you like it too, great!
What an absolutely lovely presentation! Many thanks for your hard work, capturing, editing and putting this together for us armchair enthusiasts. I watched this over a few hours, splicing it with y own 'Sherlock Holmes' via street view etc. This has made me want to retrace even though I'm not a Londoner. A well-deserved 'SUBSCRIBED' from me 👍
Thank you so much - I'm really flattered! If it captures your imagination and inspires you to look deeper, so much the better! The last slides I made were the ones at the end tracing the route. They were a bit of an after thought but it just struck me one day they might be helpful revealing what could once be seen. Not everything can be found on 'street view' so hopefully the gaps have been filled in!
What a wonderful video, I'm blown away by the effort and amount of work that went into it. You're a hero!
Wow! Thank you so much marcin giebultowski. I'm very flattered. Seriously! If you read the intro you know this is something I did originally for my own interest only. I never thought about sharing it or considered that others might like it. But once it was complete (to be fair, sometime after it was complete!) I thought I'd post it for anyone who is interested. Unlike others, I don't do any promotional activities so my video lies here hiding in plain sight. Anyway, I'm just glad you found and enjoyed it. Thank you again!
Excellent work!
Many thanks for your appreciation - glad you enjoyed it.
Some of those locations, tunnels, the site of crystal palace, soo much opportunity for a museum, could easily lay a short stretch of tracks and once again travel through those tunnels. Particularly with the ornate underpass being restored
@lindat2009 - Sorry! My head is hung in shame!! I should've replied to you before and I regret I didn't. There is, of course, a museum on the Crystal Palace site but sadly it doesn't really feature the High Level station or railway. I'm also slightly nervous about any restoration of the underpass. Only time will tell if its respectful and appropriate!
Congratulations on your admirable work.
Really? Thank you. Seriously. I'm so glad you enjoyed it. I sometimes think I should've presented it. But I'm glad I didn't. It's not about me. Its about the history & the railway!
I have two only known photographs of the railway bridge over Forest Hill Road before and after demolition of it with the two brick piers on either side of the road.
Thanks for letting me know - they sound really interesting. I do have at least one photo taken after the bridge was demolished, noticeably displaying a 'Drinka Winter Pinta' poster on the side of the remaining pier. I also have what I think must be a very rare photo taken in 1955 of the bridge before demolition. Certainly it's the only one I remember ever seeing.
In this photo the bridge is viewed from the 'down' side i.e. the side where trains travelling south (left) toward Crystal Palace stopped. The slip road leading to Honor Oak station ticket office and a metal perimeter fence are seen in the foreground. The same road and fence are visible in slide 117 along with the ticket office though from a different angle. The bridge is seen quite clearly above with a lorry emerging from beneath it. The lorry is heading toward Honor Oak and elsewhere (e.g. Lewisham) with Peckham in the opposite direction.
The only reason I didn't use this photo in the presentation is that it does contain a water mark. While annoying, it's a good view of the bridge but I thought consequently it wasn't quite right for the finished slide show.
During the late seventies and early eighties my friends and I used to explore the high level station and that beautiful brick subway, it was fenced off but it was still easy to gain access to those areas. The south portal to the Paxton tunnel was not gated at that time so unfortunately it became a haven for glue sniffers. Still this brings back many happy memories of my childhood
Glad to hear it - but not the station surely as that was demolished in 1961/62. Sadly I only became aware of the tunnels etc later - I'd loved to have seen them in their glory days.
@@bradleymarshall7395 I must admit I worded it wrong, I meant the empty land where the station once stood
Thanks for putting this up love these videos of then and now lost railways so interesting
Glad you enjoyed it - if you're ever in the area it makes an interesting walk.
I have photos of Lordship Lane bridge with a tram going underneath it and also being demolished. Also in my collection, I have photos of the bridges at Forest Hill near Camberwell Old Cemetery and Kelvington Road, further down Brenchley Gardens, intact and being demolished, but I have yet to find photos of the bridge at Brockley Way. I am currently making a model of Lordship Lane station and the model railway club I belong to have built a model of the Crystal Palace High Level station. The John Gale book is a very well researched book.
Hello garycross228. I trust you've seen slide 105 which has a tram near Lordship Lane bridge. Is your photo different? If so I'd love to see it please. I'd also love to see the other photos you mention if they are different to what you see in the slide show. And a model of Lordship Lane station? Fantastic! Tell me where I can see it and I'll be there!! I've seen the amazing Crystal Palace High Level station model online and again would love to see it for real. As stated in my intro, I can be contacted at bradmarshall999@gmail.com
nice work
Thanks - your comment is appreciated.
I think 2:24 2:35 are not taken from the same view,
2:37 is correct, photographer was supposed facing north raised concourse ,which had wider stairs.
2:24 was looking south, notice the narrower stair and shrinking platform.
Hello @dalershavalon4612. Thank you for mentioning this - I appreciate it. Slide 17 at 2.24, with the station in it's prime, is a view of platforms 1 and 2 from the tunnel end i.e. from the northern end looking south toward the turntable end (though I did not put that in the caption). Slide 18 at 2.35 shows platforms 3 and 4 from the turntable end i.e. from the southern end looking north toward the tunnel end. In addition to the evidence you mention, the sign at concourse level is in view at the far (northern) end as seen most clearly in slide 29 at 4.19, for example. How did it happen? I really can't say. But thank you for your eagle eyes! The correct information is now given in the video description.
Ima visist it tommorow, great video though.
That is so sad, I did dream for a moment as where I live they have victorian weeks and I have some so I did just imagine thank you .😢 But then I saw what was to come next 😡
Appreciate your comments, thank you. When you say "dream" perhaps you are referencing the two slides that invite you to 'close your eyes and dream a little, if you wish'? If you are, I enjoyed making these but am not now sure where the idea came from! If memory serves, I somehow created the first one by accident (slide 11: looking at the turntable beneath Farquhar Road) but liked it so decided to include some more (the second one being slide 75 - looking down at the Upper Sydenham station site from above).
There are others, of course, if you include the sequenced view of Upper Sydenham station appearing from the past alongside the station house (slides 78, 79, 80) and the view from Cox's Bridge to Lordship Lane station with the train hidden amid the trees (slide 90). I guess I just liked the idea of letting your mind drift while imagining how the scene once was, and perhaps trying to place yourself there!
Sadly you are quite right though - your last comment sums it up! So much for 'progress' .........................
Thank you for this informative video and description. These lost pockets of history, beautiful yet sad to see
Thanks for your comment and glad you like it. I don't promote videos like other people seem to but hopefully others will find it too if they're interested.
Philistines knocked it down!
I absolutely agree - an appalling act of architectural vandalism. Given the destruction almost overlaps with that of the famous Euston Arch (and station), I don't suppose Crystal Palace stood much chance. The same can be said of the delightfully ornate station house at Lordship Lane station.- the lack of vision is breathtaking.
@@bradleymarshall7395 ...The only picture I have seen of Lordship Lane is the painting by Pissarro. Council idiots of the same ilk who destroyed Nottingham Victoria and the Bowstring Bridge in Leictester. The Nunhead/ Crystal Palace route would be so useful today and could have even survived as part of the Tramlink.
@@railwaychristina3192 If the line had survived the tramlink probably wouldn't have been needed (and £ millions saved)! As regards Lordship Lane station house, check out slides 100, 102, and 103 in my slideshow. It was apparently so ornate because the land it was built on belonged to Dulwich College, the nearby public school, and the school insisted on such a design as part of giving permission for the station to be constructed (I've not said that in the slideshow). Lordship Lane station as a whole runs from slide 88 to slide 105 - slide 88 itself being Pissarro's painting.
@@bradleymarshall7395 Thank you. Yes the line curves around Horniman garden near the museum and is a nature walk. What a waste of the magnificent Crescent Wood and Paxton tunnels..
@@railwaychristina3192 More down to the then British Rail and gov't policy, Brad