There was a study in I think it was Sweden where they gave each family of a town 3 chickens. It drastically reduced household waste and provided the family with a supply of eggs. It would solve 2 problems if done in Australia. I know every household could not do this but any excess eggs could be gifted to neighbours that didn't have the land to do so.
@hefzRobb3803 for sure they don't but I wonder how many people would put their hand up if given the opportunity and local government didn't have so many restrictions.
Congratulations on the purchase, a community farm sounds very interesting. I believe they have pulled this off in parts of India creating Co-op style community farm. An example: People lend money or buy shares in start up farmer and then buy the product off them also to support them. It's a very interesting concept
Looking at legal and tax structures will be first o; list. Would people want to invest, whom will run the operations what will they be paid, whom will pay any employees. It’s not like a Geoff Lawton educational farm where people pay to learn or work for free as part of their studies hoping to start their own farm in the future.😊 Nothing wrong with that!
It really is insane. I'm a spokesperson for the small pasture poultry producers in Tasmania. The operational costs have gone through the roof. In large part because of regulatory changes and overreach. But the part that hurts the most is NRE Tasmania (the primary industry department) has brought in regulation that has not be published which essentially makes it impossible for new small egg producers to start up because of incredibly expensive infrastructure costs which was never needed only 3 years ago. To top it off, Tasmania imports 50% of its eggs from the mainland. Take it from me, everyone should get a half dozen Hylines for their own backyard because eggs are heading to be a luxury protein source.
Hi lived in Tas. Before moving to wa. It appears the state has gone further down the gurgle. Your suggestion is spot on value add by using quality tas timbers for hen houses on wheels. Which part of the state are you in?
Thank you Marty,🇦🇺I’m on a normal size suburban block, I have done the three hens in the backyard, which our family learnt from. Still growing lots of veggies in Melbourne.
The main reason currently for egg shortages is the avian flu outbreak. Around 2 million chickens had to be culled. Add to that the phasing out of cage eggs in the major supermarkets and you can understand the shortages. Eggs will be more expensive but hopefully, most of that increase will be passed on to the producers and not boost profits of the Big 2. Great info Marty. Cheers!
Unfortunately the input costs of all industries in Australia has skyrocketed over the last few years. It all started with fuel. Every thing needs fuel from harvesting to delivery. For example if you’re on tank water and need to buy water. the cost of diesel to deliver it has made it very expensive. If the government can control fuel costs the every thing will reduced. If they left the railroad transport instead of ripping it all out we may be in a different position now. Just my thoughts 😊
Keep up the good work! I had 750m2 in Morphett vale turned in to a great little suburban homestead. Advertiser did a little article on us which was cool. Recently sold and bought 70 acres in the Fleurieu SA planning to supply meat and produce to friends family and local community. Seen this coming for 5-6 years. Let’s get back to basics and build community.
I am a chicken farmer and my Dad was a chicken farmer as well (eggs). I saw this coming a way back and have been figuring out new ways to do things. I'm very small scale (only about 50 birds) but am spending about $70 AUD a week on feed for them. I love my chooks, but I definitely need to get that grain bill down! I'm thinking perennial seed trees such as elms and European ash trees, also fruit such as prickly pear and kangaroo apple. Chooks are loving the prickly pears, BTW, and eat them in preference to their grain! Also sowing annual and perennial grain crops is part of the answer as well, especially maize, sorghum and sunflowers.
Unfortunately wages need to increase to cover higher costs .this in turn pushes prices up .here in Perth my rent has gone from $440 to $800 a week in two years the bubble will burst soon.iv noticed the chook feed we buy went up $4 a bag but also went from 25kg to 20kg bags.its a flow on effect
Hi Marty, thanks for this series, a good wake up call. I’m on Central Coast NSW , great growing season, Tom’s ,cuc’s, caps thriving , been using those fruit fly bags , work great .I got 5 chooks(pets) which lay 6 eggs a week .They are old ,about 4 years and eat all our scraps plus scratch mix. Thanks again.
This egg shortage has been going on for nearly a year now and getting worse. The price is now $6 for the avg dozen at Coles and wolves....was $3 50 two years ago. Perfect example of inflation. I can see them being $10 in 2025. I've said before, all the world's currencies are in a end game death spiral. I wish I could have chickens were I live.
My local egg farm after 50 years has closed down as of the end of November. When all this crap about the eggs and started I couldn't go and buy my normal two trays plus dozen. I just didn't have enough eggs because everybody all the sudden started going there because they couldn't get any eggs in the local supermarkets. Then all of a sudden the decided to shut the doors. They have two other farms but they're like over an hour drive, you're not guarantee that they have eggs on the days you go. Cheers Graham
Thanks Marty i do like your series on food problems ahead and think it should be a priority , the way i look at it is whatever money we spend now is cheap compaired to whats coming . Kevin
Hopefully consumers will take on more critical and strategic thinking on all aspects of their life. Especially those without the amount of land area for self sufficiency on scale that Marty has. Eggs for this purpose is much like the Canary in the coal mine. Flat,unit dweller's and denser living progress affects us all. A family of 3 to 5 can via a few pots planters on the balcony can defray and offset some of the costs of food inputs. Here in w.a. heavily involved with the community garden movement. Data on that I will forward to Marty as he is the captain of this ship. Viewers are his passengers. Some obviously can help as subordinated crew. His work passion and output does help others .
How do people in countries like the Phillipines manage to raise their chooks so much more cheaply? Surely they don’t go out and pay tons for a bag of feed (I’m thinking but maybe wrong) yet you often see ‘poor’ households with chooks running around. Btw wild bird food and duck food has gone up 10% in the last year, for some foods it’s 20%.
My wife said they mostly free range and get fed extra foods that they plant like rice and corn. However they dont get an egg a day from a bird. Chickens are more for the meat she said.
Thanks Marty, I really appreciate your videos. Also I'd love to learn some tips and tricks to saving dollars on feeding hens. I'm noticing the price of feed going up ATM. And now looking into growing extra veg to feed my girls, but would love more ideas 😊 thx.
This is why we stopped keeping Chickens years ago. If you can free range them so they sort some of their own needs it's better but here the Foxes will clean them up.
We used to have Chickens when the kids were young and we spent a lot of time and money on fox proof fencing etc but we found it to not be cost effective years ago as the price of feed etc wen up. We may look at getting some again at some point as they're great critters to have around and home produced eggs are great.
We have outsourced our food needs to supermarkets. As a result of them feeding us for profits we have seen. Poorer quality food, increase in food adulteration and price hikes. If people don’t become direct competition to the supermarkets, they will get what they deserve. Everyone who lives somewhere can grow something. I set up a mint, oregano and potato pot on a mates balcony in Caringbah. He maintains them 5 to 10 minutes each day with his coffee in the morning. He gets about 5 to 10 kilos of spuds every 2 or 3 months. I swap his old pot out to avoid pests and disease. If everyone can get out of the system for a meal or 2, here and there, we can avoid what’s coming. A manufactured avoidable famine. I live on about $50 a week in summer and about $80 in winter. I’m living cheaper and the food tastes better.
@DougGumbumfrey totally agree supermarket fruit and veg last 2 to 3 days if your lucky the quality of produce is poor we try buy local but hard to find .
Learn to dehydrate eggs they last yrs in a dark cool place once oxygen is removed. Keep the egg shells as it can be used in the garden or ground up and put into capsules for our calcium intake Ppl start researching while we still have internet as that will go soon too.
Now after reading old article the cost to a small operation of a chicken farm selling at a Farmers Market sold eggs $7-$8 noe expect to pay $15-$20 due to increase of costs and for farmer to maintain profit. Lots have to do with farming operations themselves regarding to labour costs food inputs and competition even now with bird flu. The article was a rant,😊
Inflation keeps going up and the RBA with high interest rates have already stated inflation since well Covid but Albo on high bribing everyone with high spending inflation is locked into our economy permanently. We have no choice but to resort back to community and homesteading we will be forced to. I had a house in WA but now moving to North Qld downsizing as I age have no choice really. I will be growing some produce at home hydroponics and kratky but would like to find a community garden in Hervey Bay if anyone knows of any. Keep ahead of what this world has and will become we are governed by self interested champagne socialists who are only interested in self promotion.
Albo is useless but if you're blaming him for inflation then you've drank the koolaid. What we really need is to move beyond the 'left' vs 'right' nonsense and unite as _we the people._
Thinking about the future is fast becoming scary...gov could help ppl but they think its better to spend billions on sport complexes and other stupid shit that feeds their own pockets.....we need to expect better from them ...especially regarding how much they take from us just to pay their wage...which i believe is increased regularly.....while many live below poverty line
I’ve never had a problem with paying more for freerange meat and eggs. I just wouldn’t accept anything else. Used to paying around $11-13 for a dozen very local freerange eggs. I’m reluctant to explore having our own chooks here though as animals are a non-stop committment, forget going away ever…!
I'm with you that people need to be less reliant on the system and if this means putting pressure on families by somehow putting the price up, then so be it. Although under the new financial system inflation will be eradicated. Better days are coming 💕
A quick thought as I’m halfway thru’ this, maybe it’s a good idea to seek out the 90 plus year olds to ask them about the depression days. History books are controlled and there ain’t many in nursing homes that want to remember.
Well it works the same as the monoculture that destroyed soil, plant and human health. Profit doesn’t need the 50 + minerals, trace elements, minors, organic material, etc that soil, plants and humans need to survive, we get N,P,K, insecticide, fungicide, and cancer. In mainstream farming the chooks get the same deal, AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE, CHEAP AS POSSIBLE. Farming is in the noticeable , terminal stage of its cancer, the corporations buy up the dying farms and then they pay the cannibals, (Monsanto) to eat them last.
Rising costs of eggs and other animal products might be a blessing in disguise. The experts have always said we should be eating animal products as CONDIMENTS anyway - which we have been ignoring for the most part.People might eat fewer eggs and fewer animal products altogether and see their health improve if they can't afford them. People's digestive tracts are designed to digest and utilize fruits and fruit-like vegetables. Those that eat mostly raw fruit and and fruit-like veg and eat little cooked foods and few animal products live the longest and are by far the healthiest humans on the planet such as the Hunzas who sometimes live more than 200 years!
Great point Emily, the meat and dairy industry will hate the idea and have promoted the lie, and probably financed the mainstream fake nutrition experts proclaiming the need for animal protein but where does a cow or some of the biggest animals get their protein from ? GRASS.
@@martysgarden I don't think they included the Hunzas of Pakistan, the Vilcabambans of Ecuador and the Abkhasians of Russia who live REALLY long lives in the "Blue Zones" maybe for political reasons. I think it was the CHINA STUDY where people were introduced to the idea of the "Blue Zones" which included Okinawa Japan and a few other places where people don't live nearly as long as the groups I am referring to who must eat even a cleaner more digestible diet than those in the Blue Zones
There was a study in I think it was Sweden where they gave each family of a town 3 chickens. It drastically reduced household waste and provided the family with a supply of eggs. It would solve 2 problems if done in Australia. I know every household could not do this but any excess eggs could be gifted to neighbours that didn't have the land to do so.
some ppl just Won't
get their hands dirty.
@hefzRobb3803 for sure they don't but I wonder how many people would put their hand up if given the opportunity and local government didn't have so many restrictions.
Thanks so much for sharing this, super interesting about the waste management side of things
Up to them, it's not for everyone. They will probably barter other services
@@martysgarden yes imagine solving 2 problems at the same time! If I find the link again will share it.
Just bought 125ha in the Toowoomba region tempted to open it as a community farm.
Congratulations on the purchase, a community farm sounds very interesting. I believe they have pulled this off in parts of India creating Co-op style community farm. An example: People lend money or buy shares in start up farmer and then buy the product off them also to support them. It's a very interesting concept
@ it is an interesting idea would love to assist people offsetting some of the cost of living.
Looking at legal and tax structures will be first o; list.
Would people want to invest, whom will run the operations what will they be paid, whom will pay any employees.
It’s not like a Geoff Lawton educational farm where people pay to learn or work for free as part of their studies hoping to start their own farm in the future.😊
Nothing wrong with that!
It really is insane. I'm a spokesperson for the small pasture poultry producers in Tasmania. The operational costs have gone through the roof. In large part because of regulatory changes and overreach.
But the part that hurts the most is NRE Tasmania (the primary industry department) has brought in regulation that has not be published which essentially makes it impossible for new small egg producers to start up because of incredibly expensive infrastructure costs which was never needed only 3 years ago.
To top it off, Tasmania imports 50% of its eggs from the mainland.
Take it from me, everyone should get a half dozen Hylines for their own backyard because eggs are heading to be a luxury protein source.
Hi lived in Tas. Before moving to wa. It appears the state has gone further down the gurgle. Your suggestion is spot on value add by using quality tas timbers for hen houses on wheels. Which part of the state are you in?
@philcleaver2703 in the NW near Burnie
Wow, Adam mate!!! Thanks so much for sharing and opening our eyes to what's going on in Tassy
Thank you Marty,🇦🇺I’m on a normal size suburban block, I have done the three hens in the backyard, which our family learnt from. Still growing lots of veggies in Melbourne.
Thanks for sharing here Tracey
What did you learn ?
The main reason currently for egg shortages is the avian flu outbreak. Around 2 million chickens had to be culled.
Add to that the phasing out of cage eggs in the major supermarkets and you can understand the shortages.
Eggs will be more expensive but hopefully, most of that increase will be passed on to the producers and not boost profits of the Big 2.
Great info Marty. Cheers!
Thanks for sharing
they are trying to pull another Armenian genocide and Bolshevik Revolution
Unfortunately the input costs of all industries in Australia has skyrocketed over the last few years. It all started with fuel. Every thing needs fuel from harvesting to delivery. For example if you’re on tank water and need to buy water. the cost of diesel to deliver it has made it very expensive. If the government can control fuel costs the every thing will reduced. If they left the railroad transport instead of ripping it all out we may be in a different position now. Just my thoughts 😊
Diesel used to be cheaper once upon a time
You need to install a bore water system. Though it is somewhat conditional on the area that your in. Plus it costs about 30k. Food for thought..
@@Professor__S Plus a filter to take out the minerals.
In my area you are either hot with high calcium water or high iron.
Keep up the good work! I had 750m2 in Morphett vale turned in to a great little suburban homestead. Advertiser did a little article on us which was cool. Recently sold and bought 70 acres in the Fleurieu SA planning to supply meat and produce to friends family and local community. Seen this coming for 5-6 years. Let’s get back to basics and build community.
Nice story, thanks so much for sharing with us all here Josh
I am a chicken farmer and my Dad was a chicken farmer as well (eggs). I saw this coming a way back and have been figuring out new ways to do things. I'm very small scale (only about 50 birds) but am spending about $70 AUD a week on feed for them.
I love my chooks, but I definitely need to get that grain bill down! I'm thinking perennial seed trees such as elms and European ash trees, also fruit such as prickly pear and kangaroo apple. Chooks are loving the prickly pears, BTW, and eat them in preference to their grain!
Also sowing annual and perennial grain crops is part of the answer as well, especially maize, sorghum and sunflowers.
Thanks for sharing here, in South East Asia Papaya leaf is fed to keep away gut worms, they also give them duckweed which is really easy to grow
Unfortunately wages need to increase to cover higher costs .this in turn pushes prices up .here in Perth my rent has gone from $440 to $800 a week in two years the bubble will burst soon.iv noticed the chook feed we buy went up $4 a bag but also went from 25kg to 20kg bags.its a flow on effect
Yep, my feed went up to this month
Your all over it mate - great work
Important stuff here your talking about marty get thinking everyone bless you all
Bless ya brother!
Thanks Marty.
Good on you from Margaret River WA. Liked and subscribed.
Thanks for the support Margaret River.
@martysgarden no worries. I started a vege garden in a neighbours garden last year as we only have a unit in town. I wish I could have chooks too!
Hi Marty, thanks for this series, a good wake up call.
I’m on Central Coast NSW , great growing season, Tom’s ,cuc’s, caps thriving , been using those fruit fly bags , work great .I got 5 chooks(pets) which lay 6 eggs a week .They are old ,about 4 years and eat all our scraps plus scratch mix.
Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing here Steve
I wouldn't put all your eggs in the egg basket if you know what I mean... one outbreak and it will be roundup time. taters, beans, nuts
Yer, I know what you mean
This egg shortage has been going on for nearly a year now and getting worse. The price is now $6 for the avg dozen at Coles and wolves....was $3 50 two years ago. Perfect example of inflation. I can see them being $10 in 2025. I've said before, all the world's currencies are in a end game death spiral. I wish I could have chickens were I live.
Hi Andy, I wonder how much they will cost in 6 months
My local egg farm after 50 years has closed down as of the end of November. When all this crap about the eggs and started I couldn't go and buy my normal two trays plus dozen. I just didn't have enough eggs because everybody all the sudden started going there because they couldn't get any eggs in the local supermarkets. Then all of a sudden the decided to shut the doors. They have two other farms but they're like over an hour drive, you're not guarantee that they have eggs on the days you go. Cheers Graham
Thanks for sharing here Graham, probably happening a few places this
Thanks Marty i do like your series on food problems ahead and think it should be a priority , the way i look at it is whatever money we spend now is cheap compaired to whats coming . Kevin
I will do my best to inform, help and hopefully come up with some simple solutions Kevin, cheers
Hopefully consumers will take on more critical and strategic thinking on all aspects of their life. Especially those without the amount of land area for self sufficiency on scale that Marty has. Eggs for this purpose is much like the Canary in the coal mine. Flat,unit dweller's and denser living progress affects us all. A family of 3 to 5 can via a few pots planters on the balcony can defray and offset some of the costs of food inputs. Here in w.a. heavily involved with the community garden movement. Data on that I will forward to Marty as he is the captain of this ship. Viewers are his passengers. Some obviously can help as subordinated crew. His work passion and output does help others .
Thanks Phil, cheers mate
Thanks Marty, consumers don't have to simply get used to it, they can buy their own chickens. It's about time people stop relying on big business.
Yes, they have choices but the general consumer who only purchases probably will just choose that it is what it is.
How do people in countries like the Phillipines manage to raise their chooks so much more cheaply? Surely they don’t go out and pay tons for a bag of feed (I’m thinking but maybe wrong) yet you often see ‘poor’ households with chooks running around. Btw wild bird food and duck food has gone up 10% in the last year, for some foods it’s 20%.
My wife said they mostly free range and get fed extra foods that they plant like rice and corn. However they dont get an egg a day from a bird. Chickens are more for the meat she said.
I'm fortunate as I am chooked up
Awesome Chris!
Thanks Marty, I really appreciate your videos. Also I'd love to learn some tips and tricks to saving dollars on feeding hens. I'm noticing the price of feed going up ATM. And now looking into growing extra veg to feed my girls, but would love more ideas 😊 thx.
This is why we stopped keeping Chickens years ago.
If you can free range them so they sort some of their own needs it's better but here the Foxes will clean them up.
Start with leafy greens, they like Papaya, Chard, Bok Choy, and my also leaves from the Zuchinni.
We used to have Chickens when the kids were young and we spent a lot of time and money on fox proof fencing etc but we found it to not be cost effective years ago as the price of feed etc wen up.
We may look at getting some again at some point as they're great critters to have around and home produced eggs are great.
Thanks for sharing
INDICATOR BIG TIME empty egg shelves at WOOLLIES BURNIE here in TASMANIA this morning.... meh... I HAS CHOOKINS
Empty shelves lots of places currently
We have outsourced our food needs to supermarkets. As a result of them feeding us for profits we have seen. Poorer quality food, increase in food adulteration and price hikes. If people don’t become direct competition to the supermarkets, they will get what they deserve.
Everyone who lives somewhere can grow something. I set up a mint, oregano and potato pot on a mates balcony in Caringbah. He maintains them 5 to 10 minutes each day with his coffee in the morning. He gets about 5 to 10 kilos of spuds every 2 or 3 months. I swap his old pot out to avoid pests and disease. If everyone can get out of the system for a meal or 2, here and there, we can avoid what’s coming. A manufactured avoidable famine. I live on about $50 a week in summer and about $80 in winter. I’m living cheaper and the food tastes better.
Thanks for sharing, caring and inspiring here
@DougGumbumfrey totally agree supermarket fruit and veg last 2 to 3 days if your lucky the quality of produce is poor we try buy local but hard to find .
Thankyou so much
You're welcome
Learn to dehydrate eggs they last yrs in a dark cool place once oxygen is removed.
Keep the egg shells as it can be used in the garden or ground up and put into capsules for our calcium intake
Ppl start researching while we still have internet as that will go soon too.
Good tips thanks for sharing
Might be an idea to stock up on books so not reliant on the internet alone for information
Now after reading old article the cost to a small operation of a chicken farm selling at a Farmers Market sold eggs $7-$8 noe expect to pay $15-$20 due to increase of costs and for farmer to maintain profit.
Lots have to do with farming operations themselves regarding to labour costs food inputs and competition even now with bird flu.
The article was a rant,😊
Thanks for sharing Rick
Inflation keeps going up and the RBA with high interest rates have already stated inflation since well Covid but Albo on high bribing everyone with high spending inflation is locked into our economy permanently.
We have no choice but to resort back to community and homesteading we will be forced to. I had a house in WA but now moving to North Qld downsizing as I age have no choice really. I will be growing some produce at home hydroponics and kratky but would like to find a community garden in Hervey Bay if anyone knows of any. Keep ahead of what this world has and will become we are governed by self interested champagne socialists who are only interested in self promotion.
Back to homesteading! Lots of people agree in the comments
Albo is useless but if you're blaming him for inflation then you've drank the koolaid.
What we really need is to move beyond the 'left' vs 'right' nonsense and unite as _we the people._
Thinking about the future is fast becoming scary...gov could help ppl but they think its better to spend billions on sport complexes and other stupid shit that feeds their own pockets.....we need to expect better from them ...especially regarding how much they take from us just to pay their wage...which i believe is increased regularly.....while many live below poverty line
It's a huge conversation that needs to be had to start making needed changes
I’ve never had a problem with paying more for freerange meat and eggs. I just wouldn’t accept anything else. Used to paying around $11-13 for a dozen very local freerange eggs.
I’m reluctant to explore having our own chooks here though as animals are a non-stop committment, forget going away ever…!
It's true it's full commitment having animals
I'm with you that people need to be less reliant on the system and if this means putting pressure on families by somehow putting the price up, then so be it.
Although under the new financial system inflation will be eradicated.
Better days are coming 💕
lets hope so, be great to see
A quick thought as I’m halfway thru’ this, maybe it’s a good idea to seek out the 90 plus year olds to ask them about the depression days. History books are controlled and there ain’t many in nursing homes that want to remember.
It's more the children of those in that time now, my mum is a good rescourse
No chickens in suburbia. No way. They are as a nuisance as barking dogs. Plus they bring rats and cats have to be inside at night.
Tell them that in south east asia, they are in many places and perform extremely well. Everyone is used to Roosters crowing at night even.
How is poisonous canola oil used in the production of chicken eggs?
Oils ain't oils the evils of Palm oil are well known. Ask an orang utan.
That would be a good reason to have your own chooks
Well it works the same as the monoculture that destroyed soil, plant and human health. Profit doesn’t need the 50 + minerals, trace elements, minors, organic material, etc that soil, plants and humans need to survive, we get N,P,K, insecticide, fungicide, and cancer. In mainstream farming the chooks get the same deal, AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE, CHEAP AS POSSIBLE.
Farming is in the noticeable , terminal stage of its cancer, the corporations buy up the dying farms and then they pay the cannibals, (Monsanto) to eat them last.
It's worry I reckon,,I use an organic certified feed
Rising costs of eggs and other animal products might be a blessing in disguise. The experts have always said we should be eating animal products as CONDIMENTS anyway - which we have been ignoring for the most part.People might eat fewer eggs and fewer animal products altogether and see their health improve if they can't afford them. People's digestive tracts are designed to digest and utilize fruits and fruit-like vegetables. Those that eat mostly raw fruit and and fruit-like veg and eat little cooked foods and few animal products live the longest and are by far the healthiest humans on the planet such as the Hunzas who sometimes live more than 200 years!
Great point Emily, the meat and dairy industry will hate the idea and have promoted the lie, and probably financed the mainstream fake nutrition experts proclaiming the need for animal protein but where does a cow or some of the biggest animals get their protein from ? GRASS.
Thanks for sharing Emily, you mean the BLUE ZONES. That's where people live the longest
@@martysgarden I don't think they included the Hunzas of Pakistan, the Vilcabambans of Ecuador and the Abkhasians of Russia who live REALLY long lives in the "Blue Zones" maybe for political reasons. I think it was the CHINA STUDY where people were introduced to the idea of the "Blue Zones" which included Okinawa Japan and a few other places where people don't live nearly as long as the groups I am referring to who must eat even a cleaner more digestible diet than those in the Blue Zones
Good day Marty
Hi