Very good tutorial! Good detail. Great song for keyboard players to learn. I think David Foster had a big hand in writing and arranging the song. I also think a person by the name of Tony Smith did the DX programming for the song. A guy I New from Las Vegas in the late 70's.
Actually the song was written by Bernie Taupin (Elton John's lyricist and long time songwriting partner) , Martin Page (House of Song and Light), Dennis Lambert and Peter Wolf (former Zappa keyboardist). And the entire album was produced by Peter Wolf.
Hello. Very kind and nice of you to share a great tutorial. Very close sound to the real track. Showing the sound is one thing, to teach how to play it is on another level. Thanks so much for your time and effort. Keep the good work.
Thank you for posting this. Nobody on UA-cam ever plays the synth parts, they just play the lyric and vocal notes for this song. Where did you learn to play the synth parts? I would love to know because I can't find the notes anywhere. You also didn't play the ending synth riff.
This is very thorough - nice job! It does seem like you're playing multiple keyboard parts at once. My guess is that it's spread out between 2 or 3 players. Probably not quite as complicated!
As I said, very nice Tutorial, never the less, the keyboard on the upper right(from our point of view) is upside down, and it's very difficult to follow, Keith Emerson was able to play the Hammond upside down, but I can't. I would be much better (for us) if you put the 2nd camera behind you, looking at the keyboard and not looking at you.
Simple fix! download this video, download Wondershare. plop the download into Wondershare, crop the keys and then rotate/flip the video so you're looking straight down at the keys as if you were looking over his shoulder! This is what I did and it took all of 10 seconds.
You are right there is a few 1985 Starship concert vids on youtube and I saw the Rhodes Chroma and DX7. I think they only used the Chroma on tour because the Chroma was blasting out a synth brass/lead sound that sounded nothing like the album.
No, I can assure you, it isn't only you. UA-cam IS a bunch of jerks (as evidenced by the recent events too) acting like this to everyone but the select few that make trashy content watched by hundreds of millions. The video's awesome though.
Thank you I was able to learn this for our band from you great tutorial...would have been quicker/easier if you’d flipped the overhead camera so we can watch why you play from your view. Had to lay iPad flat and 180° it to see what you was doing lol!
nice patches. I have the Kronos 2 now. love it! A few years back they used my Triton Extreme for their show where I live. They loaded their patches and kept them on when I got it back. Bonus!!! haha
Can anyone helps purchased some Grand piano patches last night and im having problems trying to load theme have them loaded into User Bank U-G but when i play the keys for any of them there is no sound.
This is incredible.. my band and I are currently learning this and finding out how deceptively difficult it is. Is there any way of uploading this awesome patch onto a korg Krome??
Hey - thanks for the comment! Unfortunately, the majority of the sounds in here are created on a sound engine that doesn't exist in the Krome - If I HAD a Korg Krome, I could probably replicate it easily enough however I only had the money for the Kronos... And as much as I'm a gear head I also don't want to buy a Krome if I have a Kronos (the Kronos can do everything the Krome and Kross can, why duplicate?) If you end up trying to make it on your own, see if the Krome has access to some DX-7 sounds or DX-7 samples? A LOT of the sounds in this song were DX based, so that'd be a good place to start anyway. Good luck!
Really nice! I would say it's about 98% accurate, would have been cool if you mentioned the original keyboards used in the song. There is a lot of DX7 in there. And probably a Prophet too?
Thanks! 98% is great - what do you think could still use work? As far as the DX7 - I believe they didn't technically use the DX7 but rather the Yamaha TX816's which had the same engine but with either more oscillators or more operators. Either way, it was basically the same thing but stacked. Likely a prophet as well, or similar sounding 'phatty' synth... Great ear!
TX816's sounds probable, a lot of 80s bands used them. I believe you missed the final chorus which just repeats "we built, built this city", which differs from the main chorus a bit. It has more high pitched strings floating on top and a different progression.
Here you can hear the original synth parts isolated from a multitrack recording unless you haven't seen it already? ua-cam.com/video/EAH_xHpW8wA/v-deo.html
I have actually - I've gotten the original multi tracks. The problem (as with most of this 80's style music) is that there's no way to capture ALL of the tracks at the same time. Even live, they use 2 keyboardists so trying to get it all crammed into 1 keyboard means you have to sacrifice certain sounds, parts, etc.
Just like keyzones that span left to right, there are keyzones that span 'up' and 'down' meaning you can play softer or harder to get different sounds. Look at some of the programming for electric piano sounds that are already in your Roland, there might be something similar where you have a different sample being used when you play harder.
Very good tutorial! Good detail. Great song for keyboard players to learn. I think David Foster had a big hand in writing and arranging the song. I also think a person by the name of Tony Smith did the DX programming for the song. A guy I New from Las Vegas in the late 70's.
That's cool! I wish I could get ahold of the original DX7 patches and load them onto a Korg Volca FM.
Actually the song was written by Bernie Taupin (Elton John's lyricist and long time songwriting partner) , Martin Page (House of Song and Light), Dennis Lambert and Peter Wolf (former Zappa keyboardist). And the entire album was produced by Peter Wolf.
I saw Starship with Mickey years ago now at a Casino. Front row for the whole show! Killer...
Incredible talent. More! more! more!
Wow, very nice Tutorial, the patches are well selected, I love the sound from the nasty gnarly Metallic bass. Excellent Video
Regarding three arm situation in the guitar solo layered with synth section: you could've assigned aftertouch to do pitch bends!
Love Starship.. Congratulations!
Hello. Very kind and nice of you to share a great tutorial. Very close sound to the real track. Showing the sound is one thing, to teach how to play it is on another level. Thanks so much for your time and effort. Keep the good work.
Totally awesome tutorial and sounds. I´m really, deeply impressed!
"It's nasty and it's, it's gnarly and it's metallic and I love it" (I love this guy!!!😂)
Thank you for posting this. Nobody on UA-cam ever plays the synth parts, they just play the lyric and vocal notes for this song. Where did you learn to play the synth parts? I would love to know because I can't find the notes anywhere. You also didn't play the ending synth riff.
Great job, Dave! (PS: I purchased the 80/90's Soundpack tonight. )
Vito Aiello Thanks Vito, I saw that. Thank you so much!!
This is very thorough - nice job! It does seem like you're playing multiple keyboard parts at once. My guess is that it's spread out between 2 or 3 players. Probably not quite as complicated!
As I said, very nice Tutorial, never the less, the keyboard on the upper right(from our point of view) is upside down, and it's very difficult to follow, Keith Emerson was able to play the Hammond upside down, but I can't. I would be much better (for us) if you put the 2nd camera behind you, looking at the keyboard and not looking at you.
Simple fix! download this video, download Wondershare. plop the download into Wondershare, crop the keys and then rotate/flip the video so you're looking straight down at the keys as if you were looking over his shoulder! This is what I did and it took all of 10 seconds.
Iirc, they used the DX7 and Arp Rhodes Chroma.
You are right there is a few 1985 Starship concert vids on youtube and I saw the Rhodes Chroma and DX7. I think they only used the Chroma on tour because the Chroma was blasting out a synth brass/lead sound that sounded nothing like the album.
I love this song, I love this sound and I love your Channel!
Good job man!
No, I can assure you, it isn't only you. UA-cam IS a bunch of jerks (as evidenced by the recent events too) acting like this to everyone but the select few that make trashy content watched by hundreds of millions. The video's awesome though.
Thank you I was able to learn this for our band from you great tutorial...would have been quicker/easier if you’d flipped the overhead camera so we can watch why you play from your view. Had to lay iPad flat and 180° it to see what you was doing lol!
Thanks for that, and yes - I'm working on a better setup than what I had at that time to be able to better show what's going on. Glad it was helpful!
Great programming! Kudos!👍
Dave is Awesome, havnt got a clue what hes doing But Sounds Good, I just bought a Kronos and only just learnt how to switch it on..haha
This is all well and good, but why the upside-down top down view covering your face?
Thank you John Mayer.
nice patches. I have the Kronos 2 now. love it! A few years back they used my Triton Extreme for their show where I live. They loaded their patches and kept them on when I got it back. Bonus!!! haha
Jamie Grant Oooh, that's awesome! Do you have any vids of the isolated sounds they used? Might be cool to see behind the scenes!
David Champagne nah I've never done any videos etc. just use UA-cam to browse
Jamie Grant Will if you feel rambunctious, maybe consider it! There's a lot of people that would love to see what you've got hiding in your Triton
I am really struggling to recreate this
Me thinks the vocals give the flagging and yes with the Kronos it got pretty close.
When I was listening to the bass part of the song only it didn't sound like they used a bass guitar. To me it sounded like a DX7 bass sound.
Can anyone helps purchased some Grand piano patches last night and im having problems trying to load theme have them loaded into User Bank U-G but when i play the keys for any of them there is no sound.
Will definitenly check out the soundpack, good job dude.
It'd be pretty cool if you uploaded this video with the top image only and rotate it by 180 degrees.
this is the best tutorial out there :)
brilliant video
Dude thank u for this.
Hey Dave, you really do an awesome job with these sounds and programs! Do you have a contact to where I can get those from you?
Sure thing - check out www.audora.ca for more information including contact details :)
This is incredible.. my band and I are currently learning this and finding out how deceptively difficult it is. Is there any way of uploading this awesome patch onto a korg Krome??
Hey - thanks for the comment!
Unfortunately, the majority of the sounds in here are created on a sound engine that doesn't exist in the Krome - If I HAD a Korg Krome, I could probably replicate it easily enough however I only had the money for the Kronos... And as much as I'm a gear head I also don't want to buy a Krome if I have a Kronos (the Kronos can do everything the Krome and Kross can, why duplicate?)
If you end up trying to make it on your own, see if the Krome has access to some DX-7 sounds or DX-7 samples? A LOT of the sounds in this song were DX based, so that'd be a good place to start anyway.
Good luck!
Any chance to get project file in Logic for this song? Would pay for it a good amount ;)
Really nice! I would say it's about 98% accurate, would have been cool if you mentioned the original keyboards used in the song. There is a lot of DX7 in there. And probably a Prophet too?
Thanks! 98% is great - what do you think could still use work?
As far as the DX7 - I believe they didn't technically use the DX7 but rather the Yamaha TX816's which had the same engine but with either more oscillators or more operators. Either way, it was basically the same thing but stacked.
Likely a prophet as well, or similar sounding 'phatty' synth... Great ear!
TX816's sounds probable, a lot of 80s bands used them. I believe you missed the final chorus which just repeats "we built, built this city", which differs from the main chorus a bit. It has more high pitched strings floating on top and a different progression.
Here you can hear the original synth parts isolated from a multitrack recording unless you haven't seen it already? ua-cam.com/video/EAH_xHpW8wA/v-deo.html
I have actually - I've gotten the original multi tracks. The problem (as with most of this 80's style music) is that there's no way to capture ALL of the tracks at the same time. Even live, they use 2 keyboardists so trying to get it all crammed into 1 keyboard means you have to sacrifice certain sounds, parts, etc.
+Ultra Swank they used a Rhodes Chroma.
Your sounds are awesome please program for for Kronos soon!
Brilliant!!
Man this is awesome just wish it wasn't upside down
I managed to get a copyright notice on one of my covers, so the publisher monetized my video 🙄
Perfect 👏👏👏
Is We built the city part of the 80s90s collection?
Great question. It's not, this one was finished after the 80's/90's pack was released.
Can you include it??? @@AudoraAudio
@@alexfaylona4007 Sorry, the whole infrastructure is already in place. It's still available on the website however www.audora.ca
How about Owner of the Lonely Hearts
@Watkins Xerxes heres yur video fren!
Hi David,i am a roland user but i might able to do this on roland,how did you able to unleash those synth brass sound on hard press?
Just like keyzones that span left to right, there are keyzones that span 'up' and 'down' meaning you can play softer or harder to get different sounds. Look at some of the programming for electric piano sounds that are already in your Roland, there might be something similar where you have a different sample being used when you play harder.
I remember doing this before on x5d but i used velocity on that one,i'm not sure...thanks man
Whats the name of the tone did u use?
These are all custom sounds - the names are completely irrelevant. That's like looking at a custom-built car and asking "What parts did you use?"
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Coooool
The Notes sounded kind of different with the horn sound on the album. It sounded like only one note was played at a time.
thx
Another person who’s been copyright striked for a recreation