I'm all for the petroleum industry in Texas, but I'm also a Texan and want to ensure we have excess fresh water. Perhaps these companies need to be talked into investing into recycling that fracking water instead of using fresh. Years ago, I suspected Eagle Mountain Lake was so low because of all the fracking. I still believe that was the cause.
If your interest is genuinely in access to freshwater than look no further than simple lawn irrigation. Oil and gas accounts for a tiny fraction of what residential irrigation does
@@zbubby1202you might be onto something. When I was on the HOA board, we met with the local utility district and found out that our district uses around 350-400k gallons of water every day on just pond maintenance and irrigation. Total utility district usage is 640k gallons a day, which means we use twice as much water making the neighborhood look pretty as all the resident use for household use. At this usage rate, it only takes about 8-9 equal sized neighborhoods to “waste” the same amount of water as the entire Texas Oil Fracking industry.
a friend did private water testing here in Houston (2012) and showed me super sketchy test results from every major city in Texas 😅 DONT DRINK ANYTHING OTHER THAN SPRING BOTTLES😅 for now
Niagara bottling here in Seguin bottles millions of gallons of city water and then sales it for a profilt all over the world.. ..I don't see how that could possibly affect the water supply..
All the new homes in the most water challenged areas should have been on landscape restrictions for several years back. Moving to outlying areas where trees have already died from drought and thinking they should have a lush green lawn is total BS. When my neighbors and my own wells dry up, those people will have fits if it is proposed to have a victim relief effort (a tax) to fix water problems. I already have drained a retirement account paying property taxes from the increase due to suburban sprawl. Not all of your property tax is locked by current law at 65.
The real 'waste' of water in Texas is keeping our lawns green. (I'm guilty too). According to Texas Water Development Board irrrigation accounts over half of water usage in Texas, with oil and gas industry at 2%.
If we could only get the oil industry to help with desalination plants that could use molten salt reactors. The state needs to start planning for water needs for the future since we have had a population explosion.
No one else in this country recycles water Here’s ONE 1️⃣ Does Las Vegas recycle its water? Every time a shower or a faucet is turned on in Las Vegas, the water flowing down the drain is treated at wastewater plants and recycled. The treated water is discharged into the wash, which flows into Lake Mead, a declining Colorado River reservoir held back by the Hoover Dam.Sep 15, 2022
If there is still any bugs in the water then they will grow in the downhole conditions. Warm, water, and food for the bugs. They will grow without the presence of oxygen and turn the well sour. High h2s levels when recovered.
I don't think our refineries are even equipped to process that oil so it must be sent elsewhere for processing. The public is not benefiting even with the oilfield jobs included into the equation. Of course the biggest problem is you can't keep building more infrastructure to encourage more people to come to a mostly semi-arrid region that depends on groundwater for most of the state. Once you pass the point where you are drawing more water than is being recharged then you are on the slippery slope to depleted water resources that can't substain nature, much less humans.
Wait a minute most oil and gas wells tap into salt water disposal wells....that water is sent to a plant or repushed back into the well for flooding treatment
Very interesting information that needs to be considered by authorities and private citizens alike. Once the wells run dry and droughts continue, it's over. We cannot live without water.
It is not over, at some point water price gets to where it’s economical to treat, filter, transfer. Then we will have a surplus. Don’t listen to fear mongers, capitalism fixes it.
@@cherokeerookie Judging from the cost of treating water where I live, it doesn't seem that inexpensive to me. I guess "economical" is subjective. Also, I don't trust the powers that be to always consider the options and make the best decisions. Having said that, I'm glad you're optimistic. I hope you're right.
I provide frack with water. I pump it from rivers, ponds and water wells. They use so much it's ridiculous. As we speak I'm pumping over 110 barrels per minute to location. We do this over 16 hours a day. For months at a time. The water that comes back up out the well stinks horribly and no way you can drink it as it is.
The boom is supposedly because they have come up with the subscription method, $20 a month for all the washes you want, which allows them make money regardless of the season or weather. But the money laundering theory mentioned by @Js-gs4ti also benefits from a subscription payment system and might be an incentive for some. 🙂
I just moved here last year, so correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't humanity already figured out how to desalinate water? Doesn't Texas have direct access to the Gulf of Mexico?
What this person says is, at least in Canada, not true. They reuse the produced water (underground water mixed with gas) from conventional wells. A good portion of that water is saturated with H2S. And anything not treated and reused is processed back to clean drinkable water.
It's too expensive to use solely treated water. The folks that treat the water also don't get paid very well and don't do a good job. The water they inject have microorganisms that will rust the pipe with time and will be a bigger problem when it gets in your drinking water.
If the water is not treated well microorganisms will rust the pipes and you will get produced water in the water table. I pump water to fracks and treat water for a living. Not every one does a good job. It will be a problem in the future
@@danielhughes8705 You are the only person I've heard claim this. If so, why are there hundreds of acres of fracking water ponds? Too toxic to put back in the hole. I think you are flat wrong.
Isn't most of the water that the oil and gas industry pumps underground salt water that bubbles up with oil and gas from salt water aquifers. Not fresh water?
What's really sketchy....Is the inhouse containment policies😅😅😅 I used to do concrete for containment at a lot of batch plants and refineries😅 It is insane how much freedom companies have.... Regarding water drainage and containment🎉
The reporter seems to think any consumer of water is wasting it. Leaking pipes is waste. Use for fracking and agriculture are not waste, unless you object to those activities. Both could be done more efficiently.Not addressed was Agricultural use, which far exceeds fracking use.
It is reused, Texas says it wants to recycle but does not streamline recycling storage facilities . Get your reporting correct. This is just another paid hit piece.
@@MrPando72 is your opinion based on the projects you are on. If you’re in a low tier transfer company you will most likely only be on fresh water jobs. The percentage of reuse to fresh has grown exponentially year over year. And most of the time does not involve a transfer company due to permanent infrastructure.
@@cherokeerookie I'm a contractor and have done work for the biggest water transfer companies in the U.S. and for the biggest oil companies. West texas and New mexico are trying to use mostly reuse but the infrastructure needed isn't available yet for all their projects. It's also more expensive to treat the reuse water with chemical than it is to pay a farmer for water from his water wells.
@@MrPando72 then you know that to treat a barrel of reuse you’re in .15-.17 range compared to .30 of procurement of ground water. Not including disposal savings. The issue is the RRC sandbagging permits for storage and recycle.
@@cherokeerookie the problem is that fracking is using all the fresh water from the aquafers. The treated water that they are using isn't treated properly either that will lead to rusted pipes and will ruin the water table. Farming doesn't using nearly as much fresh water as fracking does. Nobody does that I'm aware of
We have plenty of cheap electricity to treat at mass scale in the Permian. But try getting an H-11 approved for storage and politicians have it locked down.
I work in water transfer. The most reuse water we use in Oklahoma is 50%. Right now as we speak we are pumping 100% fresh. 110 barrels per minute. Been doing it for over a month. That's the size of a lake already
@@MrPando72 I been fracking for 12 years we pumped all kinds of percentages of produce water even you guys can say it 70/30 blend and be pushing 100% 🤣🤣🤣
How many golf courses do we need?
How many swimming pools do we need too?
I'm all for the petroleum industry in Texas, but I'm also a Texan and want to ensure we have excess fresh water. Perhaps these companies need to be talked into investing into recycling that fracking water instead of using fresh. Years ago, I suspected Eagle Mountain Lake was so low because of all the fracking. I still believe that was the cause.
If your interest is genuinely in access to freshwater than look no further than simple lawn irrigation. Oil and gas accounts for a tiny fraction of what residential irrigation does
@@zbubby1202 It wasn't lawn watering that drained Eagle Mountain Lake.
@@FirstLast-if3ht Really? Because I have a house on Eagle Mountain and the Azle water supply is 100% the source of depletion in the lake.
@@zbubby1202you might be onto something. When I was on the HOA board, we met with the local utility district and found out that our district uses around 350-400k gallons of water every day on just pond maintenance and irrigation. Total utility district usage is 640k gallons a day, which means we use twice as much water making the neighborhood look pretty as all the resident use for household use.
At this usage rate, it only takes about 8-9 equal sized neighborhoods to “waste” the same amount of water as the entire Texas Oil Fracking industry.
Cant have both.
Thank you for shining a spotlight on this...water will be jacked up in the future so only the rich will be able to afford clean water...
a friend did private water testing here in Houston (2012) and showed me super sketchy test results from every major city in Texas 😅 DONT DRINK ANYTHING OTHER THAN SPRING BOTTLES😅 for now
Most bottled water comes right out of a municipal tap@@Rezin_8
Most people’s idea of wasted water is water that other people use.
@@davidszmagalski4233 I’ve never heard it put more elegantly
Meanwhile Abbott was off trying to bring in chip fabs, which is another extremely high water usage industry
Niagara bottling here in Seguin bottles millions of gallons of city water and then sales it for a profilt all over the world..
..I don't see how that could possibly affect the water supply..
If you owned a bottling company you would do the exact same thing.
If I was a multiple billion dollar company?? Me personally?? Your reply makes no sense..
Exactly.
Damned greedy oil companies!!!!
@@mbhtx777 already have. Greed!
All the new homes in the most water challenged areas should have been on landscape restrictions for several years back. Moving to outlying areas where trees have already died from drought and thinking they should have a lush green lawn is total BS. When my neighbors and my own wells dry up, those people will have fits if it is proposed to have a victim relief effort (a tax) to fix water problems. I already have drained a retirement account paying property taxes from the increase due to suburban sprawl. Not all of your property tax is locked by current law at 65.
Only educational taxes are, and most people are not over 65.
Why not do that for buildings start making them so that they collect rain water. Every house hardly any water bill at all
That would be a too much of a sustainable, logical, feasible and overall nonlucrative for "certain interests."
The real 'waste' of water in Texas is keeping our lawns green. (I'm guilty too). According to Texas Water Development Board irrrigation accounts over half of water usage in Texas, with oil and gas industry at 2%.
To be fair that statistic probably includes crop irrigation. But that doesn't change how wasteful suburban water usage is.
Evaporation leads the pack, liquefaction. Remember all lakes in TX are man made except 1
@@381delirius On my water utility app, I clocked 1000gal on average to water my 2500sqft lawn once, and I am on twice per week schedule.
Unsuitable for fracking reuse but you drink it it's fine
THANKS FOR MENTIONING the "Texas Rule of Capture"‼️
A single landowner can send water anywhere for their profit 😢
Can't live without clean water.
If we could only get the oil industry to help with desalination plants that could use molten salt reactors. The state needs to start planning for water needs for the future since we have had a population explosion.
You just need more trees.
Drill baby drill!
No one else in this country recycles water
Here’s ONE
1️⃣ Does Las Vegas recycle its water?
Every time a shower or a faucet is turned on in Las Vegas, the water flowing down the drain is treated at wastewater plants and recycled. The treated water is discharged into the wash, which flows into Lake Mead, a declining Colorado River reservoir held back by the Hoover Dam.Sep 15, 2022
We DO reuse the water, it's called produced water when it comes back to the surface.
It's Texas LAWNS wasting water !
You destroyed your land for money. Now where you gonna go ? Not here, that's for darn sure. Pray your troubles away Texas, that ALWAYS works.
Why not use water from a waste treatment facility for fracking instead of fresh water?
If there is still any bugs in the water then they will grow in the downhole conditions. Warm, water, and food for the bugs. They will grow without the presence of oxygen and turn the well sour. High h2s levels when recovered.
Location. Not many WW treatment plants near fracking.
Texas RRC has a permitting process that takes years for a simple recycle facility.
You could but then you would have to pay for the chemicals to treat it. It's more expensive.
@@sinfulcoinNikola Tesla would not drink water
Cheers
Why does fracking need fresh water?
My town treats and reuses water so they won’t be the first in the country to do so
need to mandate hydration sensors tied to sprinklers....once water saturates to a certain perimeter/level, it shuts off by relay ❤
Designed invention decades ago still have prototypes tried giving to Rainbird
Cheers
Industrial hell is your Manifested Destiny
I don't think our refineries are even equipped to process that oil so it must be sent elsewhere for processing. The public is not benefiting even with the oilfield jobs included into the equation. Of course the biggest problem is you can't keep building more infrastructure to encourage more people to come to a mostly semi-arrid region that depends on groundwater for most of the state. Once you pass the point where you are drawing more water than is being recharged then you are on the slippery slope to depleted water resources that can't substain nature, much less humans.
Why isn’t Texas building desalinazation plants for water
We can't even drink or use our tap water for cooking. Wow!
Water management in Texas is one real issue but Fracking is an overused oil production process.
State Legislation is wasting our water; inhouse containment by billion dollar oil and gas 🎉😅
illegal to collect over 500 gallons of rainwater in Texas 😂
State doesn’t let the oil and gas recycle at the pace we could,
A simple storage permit takes years
@@Rezin_8 Not true, rainwater harvesting is encouraged in state law. Please cite a state law supporting your claim.
Wait a minute most oil and gas wells tap into salt water disposal wells....that water is sent to a plant or repushed back into the well for flooding treatment
Where the frack is the water at?
Very interesting information that needs to be considered by authorities and private citizens alike. Once the wells run dry and droughts continue, it's over. We cannot live without water.
It is not over, at some point water price gets to where it’s economical to treat, filter, transfer. Then we will have a surplus.
Don’t listen to fear mongers, capitalism fixes it.
@@cherokeerookie Judging from the cost of treating water where I live, it doesn't seem that inexpensive to me. I guess "economical" is subjective. Also, I don't trust the powers that be to always consider the options and make the best decisions. Having said that, I'm glad you're optimistic. I hope you're right.
@@CliffBell like all other commodities. Even oil went negative in price under the right environment.
Production will catch demand
The WATER WARS next war mad max road warrior fighting for water hahahhah
don't forget all these sprinklers in ppls yards
I provide frack with water. I pump it from rivers, ponds and water wells. They use so much it's ridiculous. As we speak I'm pumping over 110 barrels per minute to location. We do this over 16 hours a day. For months at a time. The water that comes back up out the well stinks horribly and no way you can drink it as it is.
Texas's own equivalent to agriculture in California.
Keep moving, nothing to see here. Say, please stop watering your lawn. It's called misdirection.
Watering lawns with invasive non native grasses.
alll of the corporations
how about all the bunch of carwashe businesses that have emerge in the past three years?, they are still popping up a lot down in the RGV.
You have to launder that money, same thing is happening in Laredo, here we have water restrictions, but not the car washes.
The boom is supposedly because they have come up with the subscription method, $20 a month for all the washes you want, which allows them make money regardless of the season or weather. But the money laundering theory mentioned by @Js-gs4ti also benefits from a subscription payment system and might be an incentive for some. 🙂
I just moved here last year, so correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't humanity already figured out how to desalinate water? Doesn't Texas have direct access to the Gulf of Mexico?
Seawater desalination is a very power-intensive and expensive process.
Stop too much growth in the big city. That creates a strain on resources.
What this person says is, at least in Canada, not true. They reuse the produced water (underground water mixed with gas) from conventional wells. A good portion of that water is saturated with H2S. And anything not treated and reused is processed back to clean drinkable water.
It's too expensive to use solely treated water. The folks that treat the water also don't get paid very well and don't do a good job. The water they inject have microorganisms that will rust the pipe with time and will be a bigger problem when it gets in your drinking water.
Las Vegas Recycles
They do use produced water for fracking some fracks even 100% reused water
Right on! Also, a good well returns 100% of the water used. They got basic facts wrong with this video.
Intentionally getting wrong for their agenda @@danielhughes8705
What happens when you have a bad well?? Is a good well guaranted every time??
If the water is not treated well microorganisms will rust the pipes and you will get produced water in the water table. I pump water to fracks and treat water for a living. Not every one does a good job. It will be a problem in the future
@@danielhughes8705 You are the only person I've heard claim this. If so, why are there hundreds of acres of fracking water ponds? Too toxic to put back in the hole. I think you are flat wrong.
Unsuitable for tracking reuse, but you drink it it's fine
IMO - We have horrible environmental laws in Texas. The government is very pro business, and do not worry about the middle class and the poor.
Cities and wasteful lifestyles are wasting
New washers go along way !
Or do less laundry. All home laundry doesn't use squat compared to fracking and lawns.
Yes! Thank you Sir!
Isn't most of the water that the oil and gas industry pumps underground salt water that bubbles up with oil and gas from salt water aquifers. Not fresh water?
What's really sketchy....Is the inhouse containment policies😅😅😅 I used to do concrete for containment at a lot of batch plants and refineries😅
It is insane how much freedom companies have.... Regarding water drainage and containment🎉
Yes produced water
The reporter seems to think any consumer of water is wasting it. Leaking pipes is waste. Use for fracking and agriculture are not waste, unless you object to those activities. Both could be done more efficiently.Not addressed was Agricultural use, which far exceeds fracking use.
Fracking is what the industry is doing right now to satisfy petroleum needy humans.
It’s not industry; it’s our lifestyle.
Actually, it's both.
😢Crowded up 🤦
This is unbelievably dishonest reporting.
😮 earthquakes
You can't EAT or BREATHE MONEY 👎
It is reused,
Texas says it wants to recycle but does not streamline recycling storage facilities .
Get your reporting correct.
This is just another paid hit piece.
Your wrong. I work in water transfer and very little of the water is reused.
@@MrPando72 is your opinion based on the projects you are on. If you’re in a low tier transfer company you will most likely only be on fresh water jobs.
The percentage of reuse to fresh has grown exponentially year over year. And most of the time does not involve a transfer company due to permanent infrastructure.
@@cherokeerookie I'm a contractor and have done work for the biggest water transfer companies in the U.S. and for the biggest oil companies. West texas and New mexico are trying to use mostly reuse but the infrastructure needed isn't available yet for all their projects. It's also more expensive to treat the reuse water with chemical than it is to pay a farmer for water from his water wells.
@@MrPando72 then you know that to treat a barrel of reuse you’re in .15-.17 range compared to .30 of procurement of ground water. Not including disposal savings.
The issue is the RRC sandbagging permits for storage and recycle.
@@cherokeerookie the problem is that fracking is using all the fresh water from the aquafers. The treated water that they are using isn't treated properly either that will lead to rusted pipes and will ruin the water table. Farming doesn't using nearly as much fresh water as fracking does. Nobody does that I'm aware of
Big oil is big waste. Always.
So fracking is the biggest waister of Texas water
Evaporation
Call your republicans 📱
Re use the water don’t use clean water to dig thats the laziest rotten mind. I’m sure they do to much coc.
Californians
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We have plenty of water. It's the electricity cost that's the problem.
We have plenty of cheap electricity to treat at mass scale in the Permian.
But try getting an H-11 approved for storage and politicians have it locked down.
They just dont tell you the truth a lot of these energy companies use like 80-100% produce water bc its way cheaper
I work in water transfer. The most reuse water we use in Oklahoma is 50%. Right now as we speak we are pumping 100% fresh. 110 barrels per minute. Been doing it for over a month. That's the size of a lake already
@@MrPando72 I been fracking for 12 years we pumped all kinds of percentages of produce water even you guys can say it 70/30 blend and be pushing 100% 🤣🤣🤣
@@nawfsideg530 true but we have put lakes in the ground that's for sure
@@MrPando72 T. Boone Pickens Invests in Water - Should You? Oklahoma
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