I really like a silver coin with some light gold toning creeping in from the rim, very nice when titled in light with the luster highlighting the gold toning .very good informational vids 👍
I call BS on this. There's no way something subjective like eye appeal from toning should affect the technical grade one iota. If PCGS is willing to take an MS-68 or MS-69 coin and grade it MS-63 because the toning isn't attractive as far as their grader is concerned, then my coins will always be submitted to NGC from this point on.
@@lawrencet83 Wow, that's an ugly coin. But that doesn't mean it's not MS-67. The tarnish (hard to call that toning) could, and should, be removed via conservation.
It does effect the grade of the coin. If you have really attractive toning, and the grader is thinking of calling your coin 65 or 66. They'll likely bump it to 66 just because of eye appeal.
@@AustinsCoins I'm more of a technical grader. The thing about "attractive" toning is that it's subjective. What you find attractive I might not. That's why it shouldn't affect the grade of the coin. Toning can be a separate grade beyond the technical grade of the coin and issues with its surfaces.
@@JohnD357 You might think that way, I'm just stating that it does effect the grade of coin. That's how PCGS and NGC works. This is coming from someone who has talked with Steve Feltner about this subject. (Director of Education at PCGS)
I highly doubt toning would affect a coin by 5-6 grades ,your over exaggerating somewhat .I know that if I was the buyer and I had two exact graded coins ,I would take the one that is less toned , some one else would take the toned. Eye of the beholder my friend.
You're telling me that if a coin has dark, ugly toning, but has NO marks and a needle-sharp strike, could only grade as high as MS63? I don't believe it. I'll bet that Boone half would grade MS65 IF, as I said, it were perfect otherwise.
You are right. They are being disingenuous to how the coins are actually graded. Most coins that meet a technical grade will get that technical grade. If an ugly toned coin was technically a 67, I highly doubt they would mark it down to a 63. At the same time, I believe "neutral" eye appeal coins can get to 67.
Yep, but that one is not mine. I don’t know if you guys talking to me, but this is not mine this in on my phones I don’t know what can I call you talking about when you get confused with someone else
To be polite and honest, these videos have been horrible. That's me being polite. Your grading 101 series introduce words and topics not previously defined. How do you start a series with terms not defined? This video and others show me how subjective your grading is. I have seen so many other great videos from other parties - but you are the leader in grading - but your videos appear as if someone smokes a reefer and decides the grade. Even when they say - this little detail made us bump it up a grade - or down a grade...omg, why are you the leaders in this subject?
I really like a silver coin with some light gold toning creeping in from the rim, very nice when titled in light with the luster highlighting the gold toning .very good informational vids 👍
How do you differentiate between Natural and Artificial toning?
It's not always possible, and that's the problem. Those rainbow Morgans look laughably fake to me.
They don’t! One coin u send few times can be always different result
Just depend your luck and grader mood
@@christineang6719 Graders are very fair over all .
Sir very helpful
this series is really great stuff keep up the great work just pure excellence
Ada coin as Ten dolar,Liberti.1898
I call BS on this. There's no way something subjective like eye appeal from toning should affect the technical grade one iota. If PCGS is willing to take an MS-68 or MS-69 coin and grade it MS-63 because the toning isn't attractive as far as their grader is concerned, then my coins will always be submitted to NGC from this point on.
@@lawrencet83 Wow, that's an ugly coin. But that doesn't mean it's not MS-67. The tarnish (hard to call that toning) could, and should, be removed via conservation.
It does effect the grade of the coin. If you have really attractive toning, and the grader is thinking of calling your coin 65 or 66. They'll likely bump it to 66 just because of eye appeal.
@@AustinsCoins I'm more of a technical grader. The thing about "attractive" toning is that it's subjective. What you find attractive I might not. That's why it shouldn't affect the grade of the coin. Toning can be a separate grade beyond the technical grade of the coin and issues with its surfaces.
@@JohnD357 You might think that way, I'm just stating that it does effect the grade of coin. That's how PCGS and NGC works. This is coming from someone who has talked with Steve Feltner about this subject. (Director of Education at PCGS)
I highly doubt toning would affect a coin by 5-6 grades ,your over exaggerating somewhat .I know that if I was the buyer and I had two exact graded coins ,I would take the one that is less toned , some one else would take the toned. Eye of the beholder my friend.
You're telling me that if a coin has dark, ugly toning, but has NO marks and a needle-sharp strike, could only grade as high as MS63? I don't believe it. I'll bet that Boone half would grade MS65 IF, as I said, it were perfect otherwise.
You are right. They are being disingenuous to how the coins are actually graded. Most coins that meet a technical grade will get that technical grade. If an ugly toned coin was technically a 67, I highly doubt they would mark it down to a 63. At the same time, I believe "neutral" eye appeal coins can get to 67.
Antique dealers versus numismatists
Yep, but that one is not mine. I don’t know if you guys talking to me, but this is not mine this in on my phones I don’t know what can I call you talking about when you get confused with someone else
The Boone coin looks like no one via a zombie...
the one with the bad tone, that is.
Disculpa
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I don't like any toning, and would dip every coin in this video in EZ-EST for 30 seconds, followed by a distilled water rinse. Let the outrage begin!!
To be polite and honest, these videos have been horrible. That's me being polite. Your grading 101 series introduce words and topics not previously defined. How do you start a series with terms not defined? This video and others show me how subjective your grading is. I have seen so many other great videos from other parties - but you are the leader in grading - but your videos appear as if someone smokes a reefer and decides the grade. Even when they say - this little detail made us bump it up a grade - or down a grade...omg, why are you the leaders in this subject?