What Size HDTV Should You Buy? WallTenna Rocks. OTA HD Antennas Don't Have To Be Expensive!
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Replaced a Terk HDTV amplified antenna with the Walltenna. The Walltenna got me many more stations, and I don't have to aim it when I change channels. It works great.
What they forgot to say is that the studio is probably in direct line of sight and not too far from the emitter.
To all the people complaining about reception. Indoor antennas are meant for people within 20 miles or so from the local stations. The HD-BLADE is a better and less expensive antenna than the Walltenna or Mohu Leaf
Thanks for the information. I am about to be a cord cutter and I need to do this on my own. so I appreciate your video.
I made my own from a do it yourself video. It picks up channels from 100 miles away and my tv collected 164 channels. I spent $7 plus scrap parts to make it.
I fashioned a circular digital antenna using a metal coat hanger, a push-on 300Ω to 75Ω balun ($2 - $3) and a male to male F connector. If you have an old UHF loop, you can save the trouble and just try that. If this doesn't work for you, you're only out $3 bucks or so.
First, I cut off the hook part of the hanger including the pigtail portion. That left a triangular shaped wire. Then I straightened out the triangle prior to bending it into a loop. It wasn't geometrically exact. On each end of the loop I bent the tip into a very small loop that would fit the diameter of the machine screw on the 300Ω to 75Ω balun. Next, I took the F connector and screwed it into a fairly long 75Ω cable. I then pushed the other side of the connected into the balun. The cable then was attached to the 75Ω connector on the back of the TV. It's best to use a relatively long cable so there is flexibility to position the loop.
Your success may vary, especially if you live in a rural area. However, in my area, I got all but four stations but they were all shopping channels anyway. :)
P.S. As this is not an elegant solution, your family may not want this in the family or living room.
The key issues in being able to use an antenna is distance to the transmit towers and line of sight to the towers. In my case I am 24 miles from the towers and only marginal line of sight. The antennas in this video will not cut it in this situation. I ended up with a RCA 751 antenna mounted on a small "dish type" mast on the eave of my roof. Also, had to limb up a considerable amount of trees. I also added an antenna amplifier because I have one splitter to go to other tvs in the house. Splitter had to signal loss. Hope this helps.
Only works on city locations. got to install that 28 feet up over the house to work on Port Richey Florida
I live 15 miles from most transmitters, and don't need an outdoor antenna. The Walltenna works fine and I get about 45 channels.
I use the RCA flat amplified antenna they show in the video and I get very good recepition. I use an extension co ax cable to put the antenna in the place I need for best reception.
I tried the RCA flat antenna first shown. It picked up 3 channels, I found a cheaper outdoor one that picked up 10 channels in the same spot so I can't agree that it's a good one, though most any indoor antenna likely isn't going to work as well as an outdoor if your more than 25 miles from the stations.
Size, height and distance from stations are king. If you're more than 25 or so miles out, then you'll really want height and size.
i like to see you update the antenna tests since it is 2015 winegard has there new air antenna with 60 + range
One of the guys mentioned the new TV's having the over the air TV turner built in. He said it was good. Most of the one's I have had are crap. There are some good TV converter boxes still out there and some are very good. But not all of them. I took a new TV and ran the set up for the antenna. I got 8 channels. Used the same TV again and hooked up a TV converter box. This time got 15 channels. Using the same TV but hooked to a outside antenna. Ran through the TV 23 channels. Used the converter box got 68. Out side antenna seem to always work better. Down side is if a thunder storm pops up. It could take out everything you have. And it has happened to me. So here is a thought for you geeks everything is wireless today. Except over the air TV. Somebody needs to design a out side TV antenna that will transmit it's signal to the TV. Perhaps a antenna with a cable that runs to a amp / transmitter box. So the signal can flow wireless to the TV. If needed a small antenna on the back of the TV. That way if a storm pops up it should not be a problem. I use the surge protectors. But they do not always work.
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you can still use a cheaper antenna, the signal will degrade as you route the cable to each tv and splitters. You may want to invest in a good signal amp to run that many tvs from one antenna.
Interesting that they able to get KICU from San Jose in their concrete fortress in SF
I made my own Waltenna double bowtie with a piece of left over plexi and the copper tape for probably about 50 cents - it does work well, but it ignores the VHF band.
I tried several indoor antenna's as well as amplified antennas at my house in Brooklyn NY. I am located about 10 miles from the transmission tower and the reception I was getting was very poor. pictures would fade in and out and would be pixelated. I bit the bullet and had an arial antenna installed on my chimney. The difference was night and day. I pulled over 60 channels in glorious HD and even got channels from NJ. The antenna I got was the channel master 3016 ($77 at amazon) and installation was another $300. Work took about 3 hours to complete. I am very happy with the results.
Avi Pharmd I'm 30 miles from Chicagos antennas with buildings and trees blocking line of site to them from my 20 years old rooftop antenna. It takes a heavy summer rain on the trees to disturb my reception.
I have a cheapo all band amp to compensate for the splitter loss of feeding the 8 wired jacks in our house. No cable TV ever.
It's all moot since we are rapidly converting to IPTV for everything. (Have had VOIP phone for almost 15years)
Avi Pharmd I'm 30 miles from Chicagos antennas with buildings and trees blocking line of site to them from my 20 years old rooftop antenna. It takes a heavy summer rain on the trees to disturb my reception.
I have a cheapo all band amp to compensate for the splitter loss of feeding the 8 wired jacks in our house. No cable TV ever.
It's all moot since we are rapidly converting to IPTV for everything. (Have had VOIP phone for almost 15years)
Fry's Electronics sell the old style UHF Bow ties, also as a double.. (2 antennas in one or double the antenna, works good, I have one..
i have a cheap rabbit ears antenna that my dad had from his 1982 tv and it works great
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im using some old speaker cable and its working great BUT I would like to see if I can get some more channels with a real antenna.
How bout splitting out for 3 Screens with one house Antenna ?
I have 100" Screen / 7.1 for main room, 32" Led Blu-ray PVR combo for the bedroom and 32" for dinning .
Few movie theatres exceed 30 degrees once you move back 1/3 theway toward the backof the room.
A 60 inch tv worked great in ny living room because the distance of viewing allowed you to see the screen only when looking at the tv
havent watched yet but I love my Leaf Antenna
i have a 40" screen at 1080p looks great but i have to have it in a certain because its in my room and got it during the holidays and its a smart tv and im using old attena and have to convert it using a coverter or it would not work well and my room is in the basement so 2 floors to pass through.
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Thanks guys works perfectly
I got an RCA Rabbit Ears antenna for $10.00 at Walmart. Good but I may get the Mohu Leaf
what about vertical positioning ? is a large screen better on a stand than one mounted on a wall ?
I just tryed a rca omni-directional non amplified and could not pull in channel 3.1 witch a long piece of wire could.
its all about tuners.which is the best receiver ones.
I see more complaints about people buying these amplified antennas, they live near an antenna farm but expect to also get a farm 50 miles away, duplicating a lot of channels. You see this especially in NYC, the whining. What happens is the local ones drop off and they get the distance ones only. You basically are getting too strong of a signal from the local stations, multiple paths, it’s the same problem of living next door or in the shadow of to an antenna farm.
Try removing the amp.
These amplified antennas are not designed for the above use. The amplification isn’t for receiving distance channels when they are available local, they are for use when you are at a distance of 40-50 miles, to the nearest farm. Used to live out in the sticks and our stations were 45 miles away.
Now I live north of my local farm 24 miles away, across water, an amplified antenna is worst for me because the other farm, I live on a very long peninsula is 50-60 north on the mainland, exactly opposite of each other. I don’t need the amp for the local stations.
Rabbit ears? You don’t need the long ears much, all of our stations moved to the UHF band off the old VHF. VHF needs those long arms you see on old roof antennas, UHF uses the really short arms at the other end. So, rabbit ears usually have two antennas, the two long ears for VHF and an enclosed antenna in the center mounted to the base, or a loop wire antenna in the center. You would be better off buying just a cheap $10 enclosed UHF antenna and lose the ears. They do nothing.
Does not work for VHF like WESH 2 here in Orlando
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Or maybe Radio Shack can't afford to replace the 300 ohm twin lead with a balun (300 to 75 ohm transformer; twin lead to coax). New TV's don't have 300 ohm twin lead connection.
Since I live 40 miles from the nearest TV Towers.. I decided to buy a Mohu Leaf.. only bought the wrong one.. should have bought the one you showed on here..And I never sent it back. so wonder if I ordered the Amplifier would that work?? so confusing...
I've noticed that reception changes if the sun is up or down. Also, when the wind is heavy reception drecreases and the direction the antenna is pointed definately affects reception. What is the antenna that will return me to what I had as an uhf/vhf viewer?
Liked your video got the rca it didn't work I live in Burbank ca witch antenna is good for here . They said it didn't work here cause I live between mountains us that accurate.
best antennas are either channel masters or similar. you can pull in from 150 miles.
Who says?
Fucknuts
one reason is the fact they have been making antennas for nearly a century. the second reason is that you need no external power. and the third reason is they will replace it if it ever fails no questions asked. besides, none of the demonstrated antennas will pick up signals more than 50 miles or so. channel master is the only company in the us and canada that make external antennas, no matter what the brand name says. RCA, Radio Shack, etc.
Order from them directly or go to Lowes. The RCA branded ones are made by channel master.
With a mast a couple of hundred feet high . You wouldn't have line of sight , due to earth's curvature . Unless flat earthers are right !
I would like to know how to find out where the signal cliff(or drop off) is?When we live over 30 miles away,from the desired towers.When we live in good old country.
Tony Lilich That depends on weather, station power and geography. With a good outdoor directional antenna you can commonly get decent reception for up to 45 miles if you don't have obstacles. A low noise preamplifier can add 10-20 miles to that. If the conditions are right, during the night you can get even 100 miles due to tropospheric reflection, but you can't count on that every day.
What's the effective range? I live 25 miles southe of Fort Wayne, IN. Will they work at that range?
MY Walltenna stopped working after 2 yrs. I was getting 22 stations. what do you think happened? I even tried to use a booster. Thanks
im new to hdtvs been with the tube tvs forever but an untimely death of the tv happened and am looking for a good tv/projector for under 1000. i like to play console and pc games also watch alotta of movies so something that would look good with them. i have about 20 ft from me to tv/wall basically just want a projector or tv that will get my monies worth :-) any ideas? i've also had a spare tv to play console games on because i heard that they can wear out your tv faster is this true?
I live in Balto md , and I live downtown. My apt is on the 1st floor and in the back. I am boxed in by hi rise buildings. . The Rca in this video did not help much, even the amplified model. I received about 8 stations and not very clearly. I tried the August brand magnetic bottom omni directional for $13.00. This pulled in 13 stations . My Rca rabbit ears pulled in the same.. these gave great reception and clear pictures.
I was wondering if Walltenna will do any better? I can not receive any Pbs stations,
The funny thing is with the antennas I mentioned, The reception is better away from the windows. So far the cheapest are better.. Any suggestions.? Thanks
i want to do this one day so i can pick up my hard to reach KXTV NEWS10 ABC Station.
Yes. There is really no such thing as an HD antenna. It's purely marketing. Any antenna is an HD antenna.
I bought the clear tv one
I tried that kind of antenna and I got nothing. It's weird, because a rabbit antenna works a little bit. Not very well. I am using an analog box converter to digital, I get nothing at all !! Do I need to remove the converter box???I have a HDTV Mitsubishi 65'
Thanks!
In an electronics store saw an outdoor antenna hanging off the ceiling. Came with an amplifier no longer available. The salesman said the old thing is not for sale. They have others they recommend.
Asked him that similar looking antennas that claimed to pick up signals 150mi away were on sale off the Internet got a the answer: the digital signals have slightly different characteristics. The company prob. has updated one for HDTV. Don't the signals broadcast over the same frequencies? Any issue?
thepianoplayer416 Antennas don't care whether the signal is analog or digital, NTSC, ATSC, PAL or Klington, French, Chinese or Arabic. Full power digital broadcast TV in the US is UHF band.
Do they work in Toronto Ontario
+Tekzilla Revisit, since it has been 5 *years?*
will an HD antenna work outside the US?
Cool!
I'm in an apartment. My HD tv is not by the window but is 20-25 feet from. In general, can I expect an indoor HD antenna to work?
Radio signals go through walls. You can get tv anywhere in your hose/apt. with an antenna and good receiver/tv.
Tv sets usb ports don't connect3 their shielded tuners
Too bad i'm on the outer edges of the Seattle area digital tv signals.
How do I get channels without the antenna like you were talking about
T M Think content, not channels, and switch to iptv.
website links from show?
received what item?
Please let me know which will be the best indoor antenna there is available in the market right now
5000nate
5000nate Make your own. Google Gray-Hoverman antenna and get some copper wire and a balun. You'll wipe the floor with these gimmick antennas people are selling. I've been fooled once with a gimmick antenna. Then I made my own. Now I have more channels and I live in a bad reception area (valley).
I wondering how well these internal antenna's do in a mobile home?
WRATHofDESTRUCTION Depends on whether the body is fiberglas, ABS or aluminum clad, where the antenna and window are positioned relative to the transmitter, and if the parking spot has line of site. outdoor antenna with a telescopic mast would be better.
I know this video is 4 years old, but what if you live in the country,those 30 mile antennas aren't going to do you much good. What do you recommend for long distance receiving?
if you have an antenna on the roof, you could possibly use that
pokedexg If it covers the uhf band , it definitely will and better than a flat panel design.
Would these work in the uk
Ooops sorry I thought I was still on the RCA converter box video still :-(
I'm using aRadioShack Outdoor Scanner/Ham Discone Antenna Catalog #: 2000043 and this works great with out an amplifier I have a 3 TV's and a scanner on it and no problems with it I do recommend going to fooltv and seeing how high you wood need to put the antenna they also recommend other antennas but if you use this one it dose not matter witch way it is it is aimed because it's a non directional
5:09 is where the TV size starts
Question I've done the channel scan and now picking up any new channels but also I can't get channel 6 which is a basic channel. What should I or can I do to fix it? Thank you in advance.
Sonya Eleazer Channel 6 would be LPTV, a limited VHF transmission outside the uhf pickup band of these bowtie uhh antennasntennad.
I found you guys stay put
Wondering about bad weather. Do Channels go down during bad weather? And are there any TiVo options with Roku, etc. I really want to get rid of cable. just looking for all options.
Donna WhartonBroadcasts are continuous regardless of weather. The myth that satellite goes out when it rains is still very prevalent. Satellite users may experience a slight outage when the rain storm starts or during very high winds, but otherwise can continue to watch television on the smaller dishes. Satellite television does not have these issues when using a normal sized dish. For channels using the antennas in the videos, there will not be a disturbance because they are indoor antennas.
Netflix and Amazon Prime are great compliments to an antennae like this. Amazon Prime also includes free shipping on Amazon.com. I would not recommend Hulu because it costs more then Netflix or Amazon Prime, has less content and you have to watch commercials throughout the episodes.
+Donna Wharton Not with an external antenna like i described.
+Bound4Earth I had a buddy in Florida who installed satellite for homes, he horded all the older slightly bigger dish's he would then retrofit them into newer satellite receivers, this cured most interruptions that happened during our Florida rains.
It isn't a myth. Satellite does go out in storms, I always viewed that as what you get with it
My room is really really small anf I have a 47 inch tv and I sit about 1 and a half feet aways from it , is it dangerous shoulf I get a 42 inch tv?
Alexis Javier If you secure it to the wall so it doesn't fall! on you , all you risk is becoming nearsighted.
55" in the bedroom... and when I get my house with a living room 80" or better lol
in a bad area the small antenna may not get or hold channel 7 9 11 13 but they get the uhf channel the bigger antenna mite get channel 7 9 11 13 alot better in a bad area and the bigger antenna also get the uhf channle real good the smaller antenna mite skip alot of the tv station take time to aim your antenna for the best peformance
joseph kopeczy Channel numbers no longer correspond to the VHF or UHF channel numbers pre-digital. VHF stations that predated the digital broadcast conversion in the US have all transitioned to frequencies above VHF channel 12 and broadcast identifiers showing their old channel numbers. The digital receiver displays the advertised number.
I have an RCA... flawless
I'll check it out. Stay classy Ron Burgundy :-)
IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING A GOOD RECEPTION TRY TO REPROGRAM YOUR TV EVERY 2 OR 3 DAYS MOST TVs LOOSE THERE MEMORY OF YOUR CHANNELS RESCAN AND YOUR TV WILL WORK BETTER MOST OF THE TIME IT WORK FOR MY TV
The bigger the better! ;)
Gurus? Hardly.
does that antenna works with old tv,?
oaz last yes,.
Yes, it works,but $35 buys you $5worth of materials plus $2 Chinese labor,packagng and shipping for a 50 year o!d design requiring only cutting rectangles of a non mrpetalic material, and a scissors for cutting copper tape.. An honest American company could build and sell it for less and still make a good profit.
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Not to be rude but get a local antenna pro to install on your roof , just don't waste your
money on Mickey Mouse indoor antennas and do a good job ONE TIME.
I still use the same antenna that I mounted on a mast 45 years ago, HD transmits on the same freqs so these new antennas are snake oil.
And* should*
How many freaked out when your pointer started moving on its own?
there is one correct answer you have to buy the bigger that you can afford
You mean start with a $15 to $20 antenna.
No links to resources but advertize your own ********
Got my damn $15 antenna at Dollar Store & it showed 1 fucking channel,I've tried it everywhere in the living room only got 1 window in my whole apartment & now it willnt scan for channels "Craig" is the name of mine
strip about 10 or 12 inches off the end of co-a...this will work as well or better thn the crap you're pshing...
Wow an indoor Omni-directional crap antenna works better without a booster, well if your just figuring this out now, it seems you don't know much about how antennas and boosters work, I came here to educate myself not watch to guys that don't seem to know all that much, maybe I need to add a few videos to my channel.
Fuck facebook!
I'd rather build my own fractal antenna
+cejurler1 Right!... or pay 35 bucks for Plexiglas with some copper tape, what a fuckin joke!
Inches? Feet? What is this? The 1950s?
I was born in 1981. I don't know what an inch is intuitively, and it's annoying to have to keep breaking out the conversion formulas.
If you're going to give measurements, give them in metric or not at all.
+Roxor128 If you don't know what a frigging inch or foot is, well its time for you to move on to a nice euro-trash apartment in Russia, good god. wait...one last thing...do you refer to America as "merica" just asking ;).....Also do you ask for a foot long subway sandwich as a "30.48 centimeter-er with everything?"
+stclairstclair Russia? Nah, that'd be a step down. I'm good here with being able to see kangaroos in the evenings up the hill.
I refer to it as "the US" and people from there as Yanks.
I have no idea how Subway name their menu here. I can tell you this: It won't be to two decimal places if measuring in centimetres. Nearest integer is good enough for most purposes. You might hear people giving one decimal place if giving a small distance in kilometres and they know it fairly closely (eg 5.2km). Even in millimetres, it's still often to the nearest ten or fifty.
***** sorry I was rude, I thought you where an American who hates America, we have a new generation here who think the world owes them something. peace!
Roxor128 How many horsepower is your car engine? Sorry, Newton-meters.
Newton-metres don't measure power. They measure torque or energy. Power is measured in watts. One watt is one joule per second, or equivalently, one newton-metre per second.
As for car engines, I don't know, because I don't own a car and can't drive, so I've never had to look up the specifications. I think they're given in kilowatts, though.
I have that RCA one, it's a P.O.S.
is that one called Clear TV?
Kevin Poole Piece of shit?
Yep exactly.
+Kevin Poole STAY AWAY FROM ANY RCA PRODUCT RCA: REALLY CRAPY ACCESSORIES. WINEGUARD AMPLIFIED ANTENNA BETTER HDTV ANTENNA ON THE MARKET.
Fidel RCA= Really Cheap Assembly
You boys who are new to tv reception - unless the laws of physics are different on your side of the atlantic - if u have the option, OUTDOORS & HIGHER is better - then GOOD QUALITY CABLE. Not sure what the output power on your towers is like but "set top " aerials /antenneas only for VHF not much use for UHF unless v close to tower/transmitter. Best wishes to you american people from the socialist republic of hampshire ( kidding ) X
Theirs no such thing as a hd Antenna. Hd cant be picked up by antenna. Antennas pick. Up uhf and vhf. Hd is a
antenna slogan to sell antennas.
The RCA is one of the worst pieces of garbage you can waste money on.
These antennas are pure junk and fairy tale marketing. I should know. I built antennas for many years to use on many different frequencies for radio,tv,fm,ham,police and many other frequencies. There is a mathematical formula in wave lengths for 1/4 wave / 5/8 wave /1/2 wave and many others. What a piss poor rip off of people that don't know how to fill there cars up with gas let along any knowledge of electronics. Not everyone is an electronic expert or novice. The antennas being sold on ebay roughly 4 years ago in the beggining of the HDTV craze were some what decent. But today they are as cheap as anything i have ever seen. Pure junk that is not even electrically connected to any of the beams. You got to have a thing called a ground plane people. If the rear of the antenna is just hanging there and not wired to the rear metal back of the spread plane you have no reference to ground for any wave length or frequency to capture. Why are people so un knowledgeable about the most elementary things? Jesus! And yeah this guy knows nothing about electronics or frequencies or what make an antenna work. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A HDTV 4K ANTENNA! It is UHF or VHF Frequencies. Proof right here that if i tell you the martians are here,you are suppose to believe me. Wake up people and go back to school and start all over again!
I liked your comments. I am a novice, but I do know how to pump gas for my Honda. Will you share your opinion about the best outdoor roof mount UHF-VHF directional antenna that can take on 80MPH winds.
Ridiculous ! Nonsense ! The quality of TV broadcasting did not change when it broke the film foil ! Do not believe anyone! Fitting defective!