With SF6 and T8 on the horizon, tournaments are only going to get more stacked. Especially for Capcom Cup qualifying events. So many players are going to come out of nowhere for a shot at the million, and so future tournaments are gonna have to step it up and speak with the community about what needs to change for future tournaments.
"Too many problems to count, Everythings bad, 10/10 would go again" is basically what I've gotten as an outsider looking in lmao. Great vid as usual my guy.
Well even if it's shit, it's still EVO. The prize money you win from that shit is immaculate. Especially this year's EVO, first place in SF6 is getting a million dollar check.
Kinda hard to be on Punk's side, even when he's right, because when confronted pretty kindly by Rick about this same issue at another tournament he turned down the chance to have that conversation. That's why everyone is dumping on him even though they know it's true
He paused the rournament for 45mins. Who can do that? Not even daigo. The tournament organiser had shown enough respect to punk. He asked to reset the score to 0:0, what the heck is it. If this is permitted players can complain on the dual monitor setting back from day 1 - had he ever thought of these? 3. He should not only do that after losing a game. Why he didnt complaint when he was winning? 4. That attitude (blame JAPANESE tournament), this is huge, it's national. Also he is implying that his opponent does not deserve that win Be a pro, learnt to play in non-optimal environemt. Daigo played with that kind of US type of joystick when he first met Alex valle. He dodnt say a word. Just sit down and play. Legendary soccer player need to play in wet and muddy ground.
its a important subject that needs to be addressed. It seems to keep happening. Everyone just wants a fair playing field where no one has excuses. Hopefully there will be no laggy setups ever.
When it comes to Majors Ex: Evo's and CEO there should be more standards. maybe not same monitors, but at least Specs. Such as standard response time and refresh rates. Either way I think it would be best if a standard was reached for the FGC as a whole.
Agree with you Know about the hdmi splitter issue. Complaint is fine. However, punk's reaction is definitly inappropriate. He said 'never joint JAPANESE tournament. Its national. And the tournament lasted ,three days, u cant only start complain when u lost a game. He asked for resetting to 0:0 after lost one game, this is unfair to momochi. As a pro u played in non-optimal environment. Sports competitor like soccer player played in wet and muddy stadium. Finally, blaming your lost like that is also disrespectful for your opponent. He is implying that momochi win because of unfair settings. Punk is talented, but a pro is not only that, not to mention legendary. Do you think daigo will ask the organiser to pause for 45mins? Do you think they never play in bad environment? Daigo talked about the us kind of joystick he played on when he first met alex. He just sit down and play, never say a word
Based on what I'm hearing it's always been a lack of competitive standards across the spectrum of the tournament field. Some are fine, some are bad, some are in the middle. Players always swallow their complaints because in reality as a player you feel lucky to have an opportunity to have a chance at meaningful prize money and big sponsored events - and you certainly don't want to jeopardize that. As a spectator you can't perceive the difference so it's hard to garner any support when things are bad. Hoping for some positive changes on the production side of things, keeping in mind that nobody is talking about the time constraints and the techincal challenges from that side. In this case I give the evo japan production team credit for acknowledging the problems and it might be a good idea to have player to production meetings to ensure the highest quality standards at some point. Nobody wants to watch a flawed competition, and players need to be able to feel they can put forth their best effort without technical concerns.
Dont live in the US so havent been to any majors over there so just going from what I've seen people complain about. It always seems like for the most part it is the stream set ups which have lag issues. The dual monitor set ups seems to always have lag issues
I'm frustrated hearing people make legitimate complaints about modern technology when there's always the one nerd in the room saying "my home CRT from 1995 has 0ms latency and I could set it up in my sleep" and unfortunately that dude's right, except for how everything's moved well past that kind of tech for reasons completely unrelated to performance. Now's the time for the technology AND the technicians configuring it to step up their game and deliver a modern consistent universal standard of performance that everyone can trust and repeat. Until then we'll keep getting these situations, and players will wonder why the heck it's worth grinding hours confirming into combos and mastering two-frame links when there's no reason to believe you'll get repeatable results, given wildly different input and display latency across hardware and setups.
Yeah, I love watching punk most of the time, but I don't get the whole "everyone is trash and the games too easy" until it's not, then the whole world is rigged against him somehow
He doesn't do it as frequently in every tournament he goes to say at least those from other parts of the world. And when he does do tend to do that that's when I stop taking any shiz he's spatting out.
This is what pisses me off about this whole situation. It's that of all the people to be focus of this shit show. It was punk. The man was right about basically everything he went off about in evo Japan this year but the man could not maintain a modicum of decorum to save his fkn life and so many people just tuned it out because he has a history of having a very bad mouth
@@JayceCH. I know what it is, I don't have a problem with the trash talk I love trash talk I've been playing fighting games for over 20 years, but when you lose hold that L and don't make excuses is what I'm talking about
So of course Punk is the hot topic as well and as such I'll try to be brief: EVO listened to him. We all want to believe in the respect and good manners way but that needs to be an issue for later. One move at a time. You can't tech and guard cancel at the same time.
You're completely right about twitter not being the place for this kind of discussion. Nobody is going to have a productive conversation when you have thousands of people who don't care and just want to see drama happen yelling in your ears. Anyone that went to evo japan, especially people who paid 2k for the plane tickets alone, went there because they love fighting games and if they have complaints it's only a reflection of how passionate they are. Definitely need a different platform though cause twitter is the gladiator pit.
How do you complain about the venue without it looking like Salt, if someone complains about the moniters, when thats his scrubb quote for the day, and then maybr winners dont wanna complain, cause maybe they're worriee about being banned from the event 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Luckily PS5 can do 120fps so this will reduce lag in games like SF6. Additionally Arika is working with Sony to reduce input lag for the system. So hopefully we can sidestep this, if not outright solve it.
No, that's exactly what Twitter is for, communication. Honestly, I think the JP EVO crew need to be invited to Vegas to see how NA is similar and different in ways.
With SF6 and T8 on the horizon, tournaments are only going to get more stacked. Especially for Capcom Cup qualifying events. So many players are going to come out of nowhere for a shot at the million, and so future tournaments are gonna have to step it up and speak with the community about what needs to change for future tournaments.
"Too many problems to count, Everythings bad, 10/10 would go again" is basically what I've gotten as an outsider looking in lmao. Great vid as usual my guy.
Well even if it's shit, it's still EVO. The prize money you win from that shit is immaculate. Especially this year's EVO, first place in SF6 is getting a million dollar check.
"we don't want to play on ps4/60hz monitors" is all i heard
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 evo isnt giving a million dollars for SF6.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 I think Capcom Cup is giving the million, not EVO.
Having actually attended Evo JP and watching everything unfold firsthand It's actually really weird to be on the exact same page
Kinda hard to be on Punk's side, even when he's right, because when confronted pretty kindly by Rick about this same issue at another tournament he turned down the chance to have that conversation. That's why everyone is dumping on him even though they know it's true
What a stupid reason to not support the truth. Emotions blind the weak I guess 😂.
He paused the rournament for 45mins. Who can do that? Not even daigo. The tournament organiser had shown enough respect to punk.
He asked to reset the score to 0:0, what the heck is it. If this is permitted players can complain on the dual monitor setting back from day 1 - had he ever thought of these?
3. He should not only do that after losing a game. Why he didnt complaint when he was winning?
4. That attitude (blame JAPANESE tournament), this is huge, it's national. Also he is implying that his opponent does not deserve that win
Be a pro, learnt to play in non-optimal environemt. Daigo played with that kind of US type of joystick when he first met Alex valle. He dodnt say a word. Just sit down and play.
Legendary soccer player need to play in wet and muddy ground.
That monitor idea is gold. They’d move so much damn product that way and hopefully the super serious competitors could get every bit of prep they can.
its a important subject that needs to be addressed. It seems to keep happening. Everyone just wants a fair playing field where no one has excuses. Hopefully there will be no laggy setups ever.
When it comes to Majors Ex: Evo's and CEO there should be more standards. maybe not same monitors, but at least Specs. Such as standard response time and refresh rates. Either way I think it would be best if a standard was reached for the FGC as a whole.
Agree with you
Know about the hdmi splitter issue. Complaint is fine.
However, punk's reaction is definitly inappropriate. He said 'never joint JAPANESE tournament. Its national.
And the tournament lasted ,three days, u cant only start complain when u lost a game.
He asked for resetting to 0:0 after lost one game, this is unfair to momochi.
As a pro u played in non-optimal environment. Sports competitor like soccer player played in wet and muddy stadium.
Finally, blaming your lost like that is also disrespectful for your opponent. He is implying that momochi win because of unfair settings.
Punk is talented, but a pro is not only that, not to mention legendary.
Do you think daigo will ask the organiser to pause for 45mins? Do you think they never play in bad environment? Daigo talked about the us kind of joystick he played on when he first met alex. He just sit down and play, never say a word
Based on what I'm hearing it's always been a lack of competitive standards across the spectrum of the tournament field. Some are fine, some are bad, some are in the middle. Players always swallow their complaints because in reality as a player you feel lucky to have an opportunity to have a chance at meaningful prize money and big sponsored events - and you certainly don't want to jeopardize that. As a spectator you can't perceive the difference so it's hard to garner any support when things are bad. Hoping for some positive changes on the production side of things, keeping in mind that nobody is talking about the time constraints and the techincal challenges from that side. In this case I give the evo japan production team credit for acknowledging the problems and it might be a good idea to have player to production meetings to ensure the highest quality standards at some point. Nobody wants to watch a flawed competition, and players need to be able to feel they can put forth their best effort without technical concerns.
Wasn't X360 strong because of its components? Same as the Xbox Series X?
Dont live in the US so havent been to any majors over there so just going from what I've seen people complain about. It always seems like for the most part it is the stream set ups which have lag issues. The dual monitor set ups seems to always have lag issues
Imagine flying all the way to Japan to play on a busted monitor. 😔
I'm frustrated hearing people make legitimate complaints about modern technology when there's always the one nerd in the room saying "my home CRT from 1995 has 0ms latency and I could set it up in my sleep" and unfortunately that dude's right, except for how everything's moved well past that kind of tech for reasons completely unrelated to performance. Now's the time for the technology AND the technicians configuring it to step up their game and deliver a modern consistent universal standard of performance that everyone can trust and repeat. Until then we'll keep getting these situations, and players will wonder why the heck it's worth grinding hours confirming into combos and mastering two-frame links when there's no reason to believe you'll get repeatable results, given wildly different input and display latency across hardware and setups.
Maybe punk’s outrage will get evo Japan to fix their issues after 8 years 😂
Kizzie Kay you are a well spoken player. It shows the quality. Keep it up.
thanks for explaining the issues because Punk johns about shit all the time and its impossible to know if he has a valid complaint
Yeah, I love watching punk most of the time, but I don't get the whole "everyone is trash and the games too easy" until it's not, then the whole world is rigged against him somehow
He doesn't do it as frequently in every tournament he goes to say at least those from other parts of the world. And when he does do tend to do that that's when I stop taking any shiz he's spatting out.
This is what pisses me off about this whole situation. It's that of all the people to be focus of this shit show. It was punk.
The man was right about basically everything he went off about in evo Japan this year but the man could not maintain a modicum of decorum to save his fkn life and so many people just tuned it out because he has a history of having a very bad mouth
@@sou1fgc346 Its trash talk dude.
@@JayceCH. I know what it is, I don't have a problem with the trash talk I love trash talk I've been playing fighting games for over 20 years, but when you lose hold that L and don't make excuses is what I'm talking about
wait what is that instrumental in the background its a nostalgic sound
Soulcalibur VI has literally a FT1 tournament
So when will we talk about punk tweeting later that night that it was his controller that was the issue the whole time?
after we've finished talking about literally every top player at the event also pointing out how laggy the setups were, and then resolving that issue.
When did he say that? I didn’t see it
You are using the title theme from Anarchy Reigns. +1000000 kudos for you
how bout those strive servers eh? 🤣
If Evo Japan use ps4 for sf6 next year I'm done
I mean EVO this year is using PS5 for SF6.. and we haven't even seen the PS4 version of that game so that would be weird
So of course Punk is the hot topic as well and as such I'll try to be brief: EVO listened to him. We all want to believe in the respect and good manners way but that needs to be an issue for later. One move at a time. You can't tech and guard cancel at the same time.
You're completely right about twitter not being the place for this kind of discussion. Nobody is going to have a productive conversation when you have thousands of people who don't care and just want to see drama happen yelling in your ears. Anyone that went to evo japan, especially people who paid 2k for the plane tickets alone, went there because they love fighting games and if they have complaints it's only a reflection of how passionate they are. Definitely need a different platform though cause twitter is the gladiator pit.
ayy kizzie wanted to say again congrats for 100K. it's well deserved
Kizzy I wanted you at kof15 japan evo
low key love how punk made evo bow down and kiss the ring. after losing the tourney! punk too strong
bro if they got yall playing sf6 on a ps4 im not whatching crazy.
maybe they should stick in the tried and tested benq zowie rl2460 monitors with built in video splitter
How do you complain about the venue without it looking like Salt, if someone complains about the moniters, when thats his scrubb quote for the day, and then maybr winners dont wanna complain, cause maybe they're worriee about being banned from the event 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Arslan brought it up too and no one was talking about him being salty or making excuses
@@GanguroKonata i wouldn't image it being an issue for professional players.
Luckily PS5 can do 120fps so this will reduce lag in games like SF6. Additionally Arika is working with Sony to reduce input lag for the system. So hopefully we can sidestep this, if not outright solve it.
No, that's exactly what Twitter is for, communication.
Honestly, I think the JP EVO crew need to be invited to Vegas to see how NA is similar and different in ways.
stop using consoles for competitive play
If it was a level playing field for all players… then you gotta stop crying because it’s still balanced. Don’t whine when you losing
First!!