Good luck finding CM4's. I have been looking for months, and the best I found was some most likely fake Chinese seller wanting over $350 Australian for one.
Nice review. I checked some other videos, but didn't see/couldn't find a reference to the "rgb audio oscilloscope" happily blinking along in the background. What is it ?
It looks great. But ... Where the hell do you get any CM4 boards, let alone 6 of them??? Great video though. Really like this case. Interesting that the CM4's are reaching thermal throttling even with low speed fans, CM4's are designed to be passively cooled..... Nice that you found a good solution for that.
The pcie slots from what I can see are single lance gen 2. Is this info correct? If so, wouldnt it be faster to connect a sata ssd to the new RPI5 via the usb 3.0 port, for instance?
To be tested but gains would be rather marginal. USB3 could have a higher theoretical throughout but pcie world directly with the processor removing extra overhead. At these speeds I think the bottleneck would be still what the CPU can handle in operations. I rarely max out my drives in my desktop machines and that is rocking 4.4ghz in 8 cores
@@notenoughtech Good point. I dig this, but unfortunately, they are still out of stock pretty much everywhere, and where I can find them, it's very expensive. With RPI5s coming out embedded with the same PCIe slot, I don't seen this being worth atm. It also lacks 10Gbps ethernet port imo. Would be cool to see an upgrade to this board and maybe in the future might be worth for a home cluster, but for now I feel like a cluster case with RPI5s (even RPI4s) rather then the compute modules is a better investment. Anyways, thanks for sharing, subbed ;)
@lengors7327 I'd like to see 10gbps but at this point we will enter the space of small form factor computers that you can buy.. or just getting an inexpensive NAS.
@@notenoughtech bro trust me i am completely new to these boards i only know about computer motherboards but never found my answer about what these boards can do expect Running Windows ..y'all know Googling it won't answer your question
Don't worry. This is the thing. A cluster computer isn't for everyone. It has very narrow filed of use if you want to use it properly. Otherwise it's just a bunch of computers on the same network. A great example for this is web hosting where you can delegate each aspect of hosting page to a different node working in tandem. It will speed up the page and will hold more users without investing in very fast processors. Think of this like this. It's cheaper to buy 10 slow computers than make your CPU 10 X faster.
Man, who cares about rpi4 these days, they lost their relevance with unavailability and very poor price/performance You can get x86 system which runs circles around this Frankenstein system for less than 1/2 the cost Not to take from Rp foundation credit who kicked start the diy revolution again Just saying
Size, power consumption gpio and rich community are still valid advantages. Prices and availability isn't a problem that RPI is responsible for. Unfortunately we have COVID to thank for it. I work in robotics and we still have 6-8months leads on some components.
@@notenoughtech I see your point, ryzen 5 with decent ram, supply etc would be cheaper with slight more power. The comparative power is unlikely to be saved before needing to upgrade again. Emulate rpi gpio 😉
The most expensive raspberry pi board is £75. Let's not compare prices of scalped items Vs RPP. They are hard to get in stock but they are still sold in legit places at correct retail price. In reality most of RPI projects use about 30% of the computing power offered by the board too. It's not a board that meant to compete with computers. Break down raspberry pi zero 2 by performance price size factors and you will see that in the that space it's a hard to beat value. You won't run crysis on it, but when was the last time you have seen a desktop or even laptop components on a free moving robot?
Incidentally, my Turing Pi 2 arrived today! Now begins the quest for CM4 modules. Also finding an actually decent mini-ITX case for it.
Good luck finding CM4's. I have been looking for months, and the best I found was some most likely fake Chinese seller wanting over $350 Australian for one.
Yeah, supposedly things will get back to "pre-pandemic levels" during Q2, and "unlimited" during Q3. Hoping that estimation holds.
Thanks Mat, that's cool project~
Nice review. I checked some other videos, but didn't see/couldn't find a reference to the "rgb audio oscilloscope" happily blinking along in the background. What is it ?
Cause this darn thing is hard to name right
notenoughtech.com/review/awesome-led-panel-from-hell/
It looks great. But ... Where the hell do you get any CM4 boards, let alone 6 of them???
Great video though. Really like this case. Interesting that the CM4's are reaching thermal throttling even with low speed fans, CM4's are designed to be passively cooled..... Nice that you found a good solution for that.
The heatsinks make all the difference.
About getting CM4s - I simply prayed to the gods of computing and sacrificed a couple of virgins. No Biggie 🤣😂😂
The Internet never runs out of stuff I want. 😒😉
Thanks Mat. 👍🏻
Thanks for watching
The pcie slots from what I can see are single lance gen 2. Is this info correct?
If so, wouldnt it be faster to connect a sata ssd to the new RPI5 via the usb 3.0 port, for instance?
To be tested but gains would be rather marginal. USB3 could have a higher theoretical throughout but pcie world directly with the processor removing extra overhead. At these speeds I think the bottleneck would be still what the CPU can handle in operations. I rarely max out my drives in my desktop machines and that is rocking 4.4ghz in 8 cores
@@notenoughtech Good point. I dig this, but unfortunately, they are still out of stock pretty much everywhere, and where I can find them, it's very expensive. With RPI5s coming out embedded with the same PCIe slot, I don't seen this being worth atm. It also lacks 10Gbps ethernet port imo.
Would be cool to see an upgrade to this board and maybe in the future might be worth for a home cluster, but for now I feel like a cluster case with RPI5s (even RPI4s) rather then the compute modules is a better investment. Anyways, thanks for sharing, subbed ;)
@lengors7327 I'd like to see 10gbps but at this point we will enter the space of small form factor computers that you can buy.. or just getting an inexpensive NAS.
Bro what it can do with this power i wanna know
I'd assume if you have your sights set on one... You know exactly what you need it for.
@@notenoughtech bro trust me i am completely new to these boards i only know about computer motherboards but never found my answer about what these boards can do expect Running Windows ..y'all know Googling it won't answer your question
Don't worry. This is the thing. A cluster computer isn't for everyone. It has very narrow filed of use if you want to use it properly. Otherwise it's just a bunch of computers on the same network.
A great example for this is web hosting where you can delegate each aspect of hosting page to a different node working in tandem. It will speed up the page and will hold more users without investing in very fast processors. Think of this like this. It's cheaper to buy 10 slow computers than make your CPU 10 X faster.
Nice bit of kit.
But... will it run Crysis LMAO
It will run from Crysis
@@notenoughtech LOL
@@3ATIVEThrough box86 it can
Man, who cares about rpi4 these days, they lost their relevance with unavailability and very poor price/performance
You can get x86 system which runs circles around this Frankenstein system for less than 1/2 the cost
Not to take from Rp foundation credit who kicked start the diy revolution again
Just saying
Size, power consumption gpio and rich community are still valid advantages.
Prices and availability isn't a problem that RPI is responsible for. Unfortunately we have COVID to thank for it. I work in robotics and we still have 6-8months leads on some components.
@@notenoughtech I see your point, ryzen 5 with decent ram, supply etc would be cheaper with slight more power. The comparative power is unlikely to be saved before needing to upgrade again.
Emulate rpi gpio 😉
The most expensive raspberry pi board is £75. Let's not compare prices of scalped items Vs RPP. They are hard to get in stock but they are still sold in legit places at correct retail price.
In reality most of RPI projects use about 30% of the computing power offered by the board too. It's not a board that meant to compete with computers.
Break down raspberry pi zero 2 by performance price size factors and you will see that in the that space it's a hard to beat value.
You won't run crysis on it, but when was the last time you have seen a desktop or even laptop components on a free moving robot?
You're not getting 24 x86 cores for less than $500.