kinda, i mean KDE provides (imo) the best desktop experience conpared to any other DE or even OSes like windows and macos. But sometimes WMs are very usefull and do save you some time, i personally use both at the same time, and then i change between them after rebooting
@@bacalhau_seco Idk, it really depends on what system you're using, for desktop users KDE is the way to go, but if you're on a laptop, I'd say Gnome has been such a great experience.
Of course. Name a Wayland environment lighter than half the x window managers that don't have to have a compositor built in. My pentium 3 isn't running hyprland or dwl, it's running dwm. Without compositing because flashy=slow
@@D0J0P sure, dwm is just a window manager. Dwl is a window manager and a compositor. Though, dwl is probably the lightest Wayland environment I can think of.
That was the one thing my ex was good with. We did it at least once a day. She was a complete sociopath though, she even tried to stab me a couple of times. The crazy ones are always FANTASTIC in bed.
Ricing your WM of choise for the first time is one of the best feelings. After I got into Nixos, I created my first proper hyprland rice using home manager. Now both my system and rice are declaratively condigured, allowing me to regen my build with a single command. Glorious. Before trying out nixos, I didnt really try ricing, since I didnt really like having Different syntax for every dotfile, but with nixos thats no longer an issue.
I use i3 and never knew about arandr until a few weeks ago, so I just wrote a script to handle my monitors and stuff. Xrandr isn't that bad, so I just never sought out a GUI for it. Like that didn't even cross my mind. That's the cool thing about i3, there's so much info out there for configuration and stuff like that. It also just works; ever since I got rid of my DE (Plasma), I haven't had a single crash. I have XFCE now, but only downloaded it for the software that comes with it. I kinda like having a decent base to work from, even if it is a little bit of bloat and Plasma just didn't mesh with i3 like XFCE's software does.
I've used qtile for a while after switching to Linux from Windows and really liked it. I've had some issues with some software struggling with drop down menus etc with the tiling so I eventually decided to give Gnome a try. Also tried hyprland but couldn't get it set up to behave as well as qtile did and still had some wayland issues. Guess I might as well use this video as inspiration to try out DWM.
I am not a fan of that floating panel but he does show that you don't need more than xsetroot and some font to make it look attractive. I have been using dwm, patched by me, for years but I will take a look at his config to see what he does.
I think some keymap manager is perfectly appropriate for environments like dwm. But that would be le bloat. It's why I can't use it for anything productive. Shortcuts being hard coded seems like an anti pattern. Cosmic DE (System76) seems to be the closest to a natively tiling WM with full desktop environment configuration, but it's currently in Alpha
on most window managers, from the better type lets you use them without any nerd font, by directly writing emojis instead of unicode characters into the config file. I did just that with starship in termux
Suckless software falls short because it requires you to modify code to change basic settings. I do not want to have to configure my applications in code. The idea of making software patchable as a first class citizen is great and should be the norm but configuration should be done in config files.
Well yeah, if you don't want or don't know how to do that, of course you wouldn't like it. Suckless isn't for the average person, it's for the person who knows how to read code. People who don't want to change things in code aren't its "target market."
@@robotron1236 I'm a software engineer for nearly 10 years. For me, it's not about know how. It's about not wanting to unnecessarily overcomplicate what should be a simple process. Just make it read from a file and call it a day. Making compilation required for configuration is unnecessary and tedious. Now I have to setup auto builds if I want quick iteration instead of just having it hold a socket to the files contents.
@@maruseu it's the fact I have to compile at all instead of just loading the file as its written to or having a single command to refresh the config. If you recompile you have to restart dwm for the config to take effect. It's entirely automatable, which is what I did, but I found it unnecessarily complicated for something that is not even a primary feature of the program. I use hyprland now which is a much better experience although the config is terrible in its own ways. I disagree with the philosophy that by adding a configuration file outside of the compiled language makes the program suck. The suckless devs were trying to avoid having to dictate a way to handle configuration and somehow found the only way to make configuring the software more inconvenient somehow.
Just ran this after seeing your video. It actually looks good, I just wish it had good EWHM support so Java GUI apps aren't going to look good. That being said, this is really cool
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Can you do a video where you go over your entire personally preferred tech stack with a backup secondary you also like? I'm going to buy a new ultra long battery life Ultrabook in the $1500-2500 range and want some great hardware stack and software stack recommendations.
xset r rate, I used it for years. I play RTS games so I need it. Though I put it a bit sharper than 200 ms (155) and a bit higher than 50 (70). It is incredibly useful for text editors too. I can't stand the default repeat delay and repeat rate, those suck.
@ no real reason to run sway when you can just run hyprland, turn off blur and animations, and have a faster, smaller footprint wm, that has options for eyecandy if you eventually want it. hyprland kinda beats it out the park unless you specifically want i3 style manual tiling.
hyprland deosn't run =(. After installing the void package, it just returns that it couldn't find the exe =(. I eventually just learned to add transparency and blur to sway. @@jcutfiend
@tristen_grant I've been using a 2560x1600 display for several years now and am very happy with it. When using monitors with only FHD resolution, I feel uncomfortable. To each their own. Ultimately, it's just what you like best.
@@tristen_grant I've been using a 2560x1600 display for several years now and am very happy with it. When using monitors with only FHD resolution, I feel "uncomfortable" and tired quickly. But it also comes down to the size. To each their own. Ultimately, it's just what you like best.
Mental Outlaw is back to his roots
but not wlroots
@@ヽノ-u4tlol
@@ヽノ-u4t 😂🎉
a quick sudo should fix that
test
thanks for showing it!
Creator of Nvchad and chadwm here :D
thanks for your work
You are the goat.
Chadlinux when?
Based ⚡🗿
Haven’t used chadwm but I really appreciate what you did with nvchad
The chad himself
Everything converges to KDE eventually
and then xfce
kinda, i mean KDE provides (imo) the best desktop experience conpared to any other DE or even OSes like windows and macos.
But sometimes WMs are very usefull and do save you some time, i personally use both at the same time, and then i change between them after rebooting
@@bacalhau_seco Idk, it really depends on what system you're using, for desktop users KDE is the way to go, but if you're on a laptop, I'd say Gnome has been such a great experience.
kind of ironic that suckless tries to minimize bloat, but most/all of their stuff only runs on X.
Of course. Name a Wayland environment lighter than half the x window managers that don't have to have a compositor built in. My pentium 3 isn't running hyprland or dwl, it's running dwm. Without compositing because flashy=slow
@@tylerdean980 Is DWM lighter than DWL? I never tried it.
@@D0J0P sure, dwm is just a window manager. Dwl is a window manager and a compositor. Though, dwl is probably the lightest Wayland environment I can think of.
Wayland just isn't there yet and I would NEVER consider Wayland suckless, because suck is all Wayland does.
@@tylerdean980 my sway config runs slightly lighter than my equivalent i3 config without a compositor
Attempt # 7.
Trying to get your attention to check your microphone because your S letters sound like a sword cutting something.
Bump
hecking upvoted redditor
"...ones like pSyduck St which he callS the Snazzy terminal it's Suckless pluS beautiful..."
aaand my ears are bleeding
I am updooooting
bump
I must've gone deaf because I used to notice this for a LOT of YTbers, and now it doesn't bother me/catch my attention.
Every chad that was locked down by a WhaMen knows exactly what suckless means.
😢
That was the one thing my ex was good with. We did it at least once a day. She was a complete sociopath though, she even tried to stab me a couple of times. The crazy ones are always FANTASTIC in bed.
😢
😢
are you 15 years old brother?
Ricing your WM of choise for the first time is one of the best feelings.
After I got into Nixos, I created my first proper hyprland rice using home manager. Now both my system and rice are declaratively condigured, allowing me to regen my build with a single command. Glorious.
Before trying out nixos, I didnt really try ricing, since I didnt really like having Different syntax for every dotfile, but with nixos thats no longer an issue.
back when I was using Xorg and i3, arandr was a fecking GODSEND. Love that program. The fact it saves your config as a script is amazing.
I use i3 and never knew about arandr until a few weeks ago, so I just wrote a script to handle my monitors and stuff. Xrandr isn't that bad, so I just never sought out a GUI for it. Like that didn't even cross my mind. That's the cool thing about i3, there's so much info out there for configuration and stuff like that. It also just works; ever since I got rid of my DE (Plasma), I haven't had a single crash. I have XFCE now, but only downloaded it for the software that comes with it. I kinda like having a decent base to work from, even if it is a little bit of bloat and Plasma just didn't mesh with i3 like XFCE's software does.
9 seconds thats wild
9 seconds without a suck?
it's all over the screen.. couldn't even edge
I love suckless-tools. Launching everything from dmenu-run is really satisfying.
All ricecels gonna flok to it
You bet I will.
We never left.
126Gb of Ram and 63 CPU Cores? What are you doing with that scraping all of Tor?
He's building an AI Kenny
still can't run cyberpunk at 60fps without frame gen.
You better not be one of those optiplexpilled unemployedcels questioning a man spending his money on his compilechad.
Its 128GB of ram and 64 threads (32 cores). But the question stay the same... he was using gentoo so maybe for compiling purposes?
@@xair0_ nah you need more than that to compile gentoo :trol:
If I had such a rice then I would cook it in a rice cooker with nix flakes to perfection.
Awesome video! Am gonna tell all my friends about this :33
I don't really understand what I'm watching yet but I'm hoping to persevere and learn something 😀
Finally the WM I were looking for.
I will have to unsuck the window spacing/padding stuff completely before I spend any more time playing around with these nice things
lmao there we go! also you posted this at the perfect time tbh also where that microsoft logo at 1:33 come from
I liked the video the moment I saw it.
I already spent a lot of time learning LARBS DWM config lol. Looks cool though.
might use it under nixos
No one asked tho.
@@carrotnuke ironic
Kenny is gonna shoot the number of DWM downloads way up.
Also, thought you were on DWL now. I guess Wayland isn't there yet?
I've used qtile for a while after switching to Linux from Windows and really liked it. I've had some issues with some software struggling with drop down menus etc with the tiling so I eventually decided to give Gnome a try. Also tried hyprland but couldn't get it set up to behave as well as qtile did and still had some wayland issues. Guess I might as well use this video as inspiration to try out DWM.
HELL YEAH! LINUX VIDEOS!
I am not a fan of that floating panel but he does show that you don't need more than xsetroot and some font to make it look attractive. I have been using dwm, patched by me, for years but I will take a look at his config to see what he does.
Dash is probably required because some part is posix shell. Dash is the most common implementation of a strict posix shell.
As much as i love all this ricing, i can never remember all the changes i make. Spend hours configuring keymaps - forget them almost instantly.
I think some keymap manager is perfectly appropriate for environments like dwm. But that would be le bloat. It's why I can't use it for anything productive. Shortcuts being hard coded seems like an anti pattern.
Cosmic DE (System76) seems to be the closest to a natively tiling WM with full desktop environment configuration, but it's currently in Alpha
I saw this video's title while half asleep and had to do a triple take.
on most window managers, from the better type lets you use them without any nerd font, by directly writing emojis instead of unicode characters into the config file. I did just that with starship in termux
Suckless software falls short because it requires you to modify code to change basic settings. I do not want to have to configure my applications in code. The idea of making software patchable as a first class citizen is great and should be the norm but configuration should be done in config files.
Well yeah, if you don't want or don't know how to do that, of course you wouldn't like it. Suckless isn't for the average person, it's for the person who knows how to read code. People who don't want to change things in code aren't its "target market."
@@robotron1236 I'm a software engineer for nearly 10 years. For me, it's not about know how. It's about not wanting to unnecessarily overcomplicate what should be a simple process. Just make it read from a file and call it a day. Making compilation required for configuration is unnecessary and tedious. Now I have to setup auto builds if I want quick iteration instead of just having it hold a socket to the files contents.
you need to go back😅
@@ImperiumLibertas what do you mean? you put it in a while loop and now you have "quick iteration". compilation takes less than 1 sec
@@maruseu it's the fact I have to compile at all instead of just loading the file as its written to or having a single command to refresh the config. If you recompile you have to restart dwm for the config to take effect.
It's entirely automatable, which is what I did, but I found it unnecessarily complicated for something that is not even a primary feature of the program.
I use hyprland now which is a much better experience although the config is terrible in its own ways.
I disagree with the philosophy that by adding a configuration file outside of the compiled language makes the program suck. The suckless devs were trying to avoid having to dictate a way to handle configuration and somehow found the only way to make configuring the software more inconvenient somehow.
u plan on covering the lockbit dev getting arrested yesterday?
check duskwm from the guy who made dwm flexipatch
Just ran this after seeing your video. It actually looks good, I just wish it had good EWHM support so Java GUI apps aren't going to look good.
That being said, this is really cool
went back on using X?
Great now I need to check my config files for buffer overflows.
Brilliant video! Thanks a ton 👍
bloat has fallen
As a member of the chad council I approve of this level of chadness.
W video twin
Oh look, it's siduck, creator of NvChad. :D
BRO'S USING VOID LINUX LET'S GO!!!
algorithm. Sounds like you are really enjoying yourself this episode.
I feel young again...
norman osborn : what?
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Man I really want this. Sucks I'm stuck with a windows system right now. I'm crying.
Just when I thought I escaped back to Debian // Kde. You brought me back. Better hit up my 2nd hand laptop “dealer”
Luke Smith uses Waylon now
I guess I have to figure out what dwm is.
That's one heck of a rice bruh
Next Video: Mental Outlaw installing gentoo + ChadWM
We busting out the Thinkpad W541 boys
Can you do a video where you go over your entire personally preferred tech stack with a backup secondary you also like?
I'm going to buy a new ultra long battery life Ultrabook in the $1500-2500 range and want some great hardware stack and software stack recommendations.
We are so back
what do you think will happen to librewolf when firefox dies after mozilla runs out of money?
when are you blessing us with your config on your git?
It looks nice and all but what is that 99% of these rices have to look like a christmas trees with RGB-colors all over the place? :D
Running on a Threadripper? Nice.
dwm is the one thing i miss since moving to wayland.
The naming is so cringy.
xset r rate, I used it for years. I play RTS games so I need it. Though I put it a bit sharper than 200 ms (155) and a bit higher than 50 (70). It is incredibly useful for text editors too. I can't stand the default repeat delay and repeat rate, those suck.
Yo you should make a video on the honey controversy it’s pretty insane
more linux videos please
Awesomewm for me is still the best of all
how about PGDwn? if you need to go to the bottom of a document/file
Been using dwm for 10 years.
Thanks!!
btw install iosevka font so bar fonts look better or change bar font
To be honest, having to recompile something every time I change the config sucks more to me. I don't think that's the toolset for me
Your not compiling the Linux kernel it takes a second to compile.
What are you all changing the config so much for anyway?
Tag preview.. It's like task bar, only.....
umm. It's like task bar
Could you cover gnome 47?
Wallpaper link?
I miss dwm but switching to wayland forced me to change =(. Sway is not bad tho.
theres a wayland fork of dwm called dwl, not as fleshed out and stable as dwm, but it works well enough rn
@jcutfiend couldn't run it :(
sway is great imho, and when you install i3a package to use tiling mode like dwm its perfect.
@ no real reason to run sway when you can just run hyprland, turn off blur and animations, and have a faster, smaller footprint wm, that has options for eyecandy if you eventually want it. hyprland kinda beats it out the park unless you specifically want i3 style manual tiling.
hyprland deosn't run =(. After installing the void package, it just returns that it couldn't find the exe =(. I eventually just learned to add transparency and blur to sway. @@jcutfiend
But is it Wayland
No
man i just started on linux and all this shit is way over my head
so basically patching suckless projects into bloat
So its like dwm but without the good stuff about dwm? for begginers is i3 better anyway
damn since when do you post so much?!?!
Might be time to switch back to dwm from hyprland after this
Based
「ウィンドウズ」is literally "Windows"
Please make a vid on the honey coupon finder scam
Suckless needs to get their shit to Wayland
those wallpaper... windows-tan😢😢
This guy got 64 CPU threads on his PC, what kind of work does he do with that ?
Creating AI xxx
What is this rice you speak of? Please help an oldster understand.
Chad!
What cursor theme are you using?
I should use ChadWM considering I'm a Chad.
insane
What cursor theme is that?
Dwl video when?
finally this type of content again, i'm a bit tired of tech news lol
Man this guy has 64 cores, 128gigs memory and three monitors.. Idk what he does with that
*do
It would be even better if the monitors were not low resolution. But I'll take everything else if he doesn't need it anymore.
@@claasschlueter Honestly, if 1080p works fine for me, good. I use two 2k displays and don't see the point is going any higher than that.
@tristen_grant I've been using a 2560x1600 display for several years now and am very happy with it. When using monitors with only FHD resolution, I feel uncomfortable. To each their own. Ultimately, it's just what you like best.
@@tristen_grant I've been using a 2560x1600 display for several years now and am very happy with it. When using monitors with only FHD resolution, I feel "uncomfortable" and tired quickly. But it also comes down to the size. To each their own. Ultimately, it's just what you like best.
hell yeah, dwm is the shit
editing c source code directly instead of a config file or a manager app sounds really masochistic
Good stuff
MO i think it would be really chad if i could buy a hoodie from europe, maybe with some of your favourite orange digital cash :(
Was this ported to wayland? Seems like dwl is abandoned?
dwl isnt abandoned, the repo was moved to codeberg, its still being developed