Manned Helper Operations - LIVE Coal Loads in HO Scale

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  • Опубліковано 24 жов 2019
  • In the previous video on running live coal loads, we looked at the operational flood loader. In this part, we'll look at what it takes to get the train up the 2.6% grade to the upper level. Without a helix on the layout, this is the only way to get to the upper level and it provides some unique operations for the heavy coal trains that we run. In the next and final part of this series, we'll look at how we unload the coal trains, using a rotary dumper! Thanks for watching - Josh
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  • @DuncSargent
    @DuncSargent 4 роки тому +269

    My wife came up behind me while I was watching this. She's not really into model trains. But she saw this and just started going, "Wow...wow...wow!" All hail!

  • @orrenlane
    @orrenlane Рік тому +8

    Wow, it never really occurred to me how much model railroading can mimic real railroad operations. In my head I thought, "The trains are so small and light, surely only one of those loco units is enough power to pull a whole train up a slight grade, and the other locos are only for realism", but after hearing you describe how heavy it can actually be and why extra units and DPU's are necessary, it totally changed my perception on the hobby. These videos are absolutely fantastic.

  • @karaokehammick5215
    @karaokehammick5215 4 роки тому +3

    So this is what a $50,000 model train setup looks like. I am salivating.

  • @f1matt
    @f1matt 4 роки тому +54

    Seems like a really interesting operational challenge running a train with two crews and live coal.

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому +5

      It definitely is, and adds a lot of fun to operations! Thanks. - Josh

    • @redrock717
      @redrock717 2 роки тому +1

      Alotta radio and operating by feel according to my dad

  • @ineedhugs456
    @ineedhugs456 4 роки тому +5

    This a childhood dream come true

  • @jeffherdzina6716
    @jeffherdzina6716 4 роки тому +42

    How in God's green earth did someone give a thumb's down ? Great Video, Great Music !

    • @outcoredragraces8656
      @outcoredragraces8656 3 роки тому

      IM JUST A KID UNDER 10 HO SCALE IS FOR 14 YEARS AND UP THATS HOW YOU KNOW THAT PEOPLE LIKE MODEL TRAINS THATS MY P42 IN MY LOGO

    • @ejdsndnj
      @ejdsndnj 3 роки тому

      @@outcoredragraces8656 pretty sure, that is a es44ac in your pfp, and a C44-9W is my pfp.

  • @Lee-in-oz
    @Lee-in-oz 4 роки тому +71

    How the hell did I end up here? Im friggin glad I did.

    • @PlaneBoy2520
      @PlaneBoy2520 4 роки тому +1

      I presume you’re not into trains?

  • @jackpetrof9460
    @jackpetrof9460 3 роки тому +1

    Love love love that you are running the train with a real coal load! Gutsy!!

  • @dash7828
    @dash7828 Рік тому +1

    We have similar operations on our territory. A manned pusher crew will shove trains over a certain tonnage up a 2.6% grade up hill where they'll cut away and head east back to our yard. I think what you did here was awesome!

  • @RobbieSongwriter
    @RobbieSongwriter 4 роки тому +3

    Some of the most realistic looking operation I've ever seen. Big thumbs up. Some of this could be used in a movie and I'd bet the audience would never guess it's a model. Thank for sharing this.

  • @barfeedbob
    @barfeedbob 3 роки тому +1

    Somebody needs to fill out a maintenance ticket to reolace the broken diaphragms on 2507s horn. LOL! Love Love Love your content!

  • @daviddryden8088
    @daviddryden8088 4 роки тому +1

    Flawless current. The slow speeds/coupling are a thing of beauty.

  • @ashevilletrainman6989
    @ashevilletrainman6989 4 роки тому +56

    1:38 NS will use ANYTHING😂 Blue ridge southern had a grain train and NS provided a switcher unit to help 😂

    • @kellhound7227
      @kellhound7227 3 роки тому

      I literally saw a switcher on head end power with NS leading go through Lexington KY, a few days ago and immediately thought of this video and that comment! The switcher was similar to an EMD SW8.

    • @fostoriadistrictrailfan3907
      @fostoriadistrictrailfan3907 3 роки тому

      lol

  • @kyleschessiecumberlanddivi5581
    @kyleschessiecumberlanddivi5581 4 роки тому +69

    I love these kind of videos, like you said, adds to a whole lot of realism. Thanks for sharing. -Kyle

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому +5

      Thanks Kyle! Appreciate the feedback and kind words. I'll definitely do a few more like this. - Josh

  • @montana4069
    @montana4069 4 роки тому +9

    I didn't know that real trains have to do all that...thats crazy...next time im at a train crossing...I'll think of this great video info...fun to watch...👍👍👍

  • @daf827
    @daf827 4 роки тому +9

    This is fantastic! One of the best model railroad videos I’ve ever seen. The layout, the scenic backdrops, the operational authenticity, the videography, narration and that slide guitar soundtrack. All first class and a blast to watch. Really captures my imagination. When you mentioned the grade, I thought you were modeling Saluda!

  • @kennethc.bishop7090
    @kennethc.bishop7090 4 роки тому +3

    I've not seen a hobby train video with narration like this. This must have taken a long time from start (filming) to finish (editing). There is real production value here, I like it a lot. Using industry specific terms contextually teaches neophytes the definition of words in "trainspeak". The music and effects soundtrack adds nice background ambiance.
    This is really well done - I look forward to more. Thanks.

  • @thefutureofyesterday8136
    @thefutureofyesterday8136 4 роки тому

    Very nicely done video from your neighbor 45 miles north of Asheville. 👍👍

  • @4gauge10
    @4gauge10 4 роки тому +11

    I really enjoyed watching this and having a full functioning coaling station is really nice.The only thing that I noticed that might need a slight modification is the railroad gate,on the gate arm,there are 3 LED's,the first two should alternate with the signal stand itself,the third LED on the end of the gate should stay"steady on"though.(this is how the prototype signals work)

  • @Vandragorax
    @Vandragorax 4 роки тому +1

    I love your minimalist backdrops and dissected buildings against it, allowing more focus on the actual rail and operations instead of having a massive terrain overhead to the build. I am definitely taking inspiration from that!

  • @einy2crikey
    @einy2crikey 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video!! My Dad was a dispatcher and retired from CSX years ago. He was "down the hill" from you guys mostly at the old Marion depot and Bostic Yard near Forest City. He also worked occasionally at Spruce Pine and Spartanburg. Keep up the beautiful videos.

  • @jimbernard71
    @jimbernard71 4 роки тому +2

    Wow, WHAT A LAYOUT!!! I am from a suburb of Asheville. What a treat to see... Thanks

  • @blkstang83
    @blkstang83 4 роки тому +1

    I have watched many operational videos for rail lines. You are the first one to explain the "whys" of the use of engines like the lead and helpers. Thanks for sharing the knowledge and video.

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому

      Hey Vincent, glad the video helped. If you would like to know anything else about operations, email them to me at NSmodeler24@gmail.com. I'm always looking for ideas for future videos. Thanks for watching. - Josh

  • @_3liupn3xt_4
    @_3liupn3xt_4 4 роки тому +4

    I like how you have foreign power in the yard 🔥👌🏾

  • @Texas12valve
    @Texas12valve 4 роки тому +1

    I work with trains at my job so I pretty much know the cars in and out and i gotta say the attention to detail is incredible

  • @Signal1072
    @Signal1072 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome operations doesn’t get much more realistic than that...definitely a blast running that train on the layout

  • @tommythomason6187
    @tommythomason6187 4 роки тому

    Learned a few things. I subscribed long back, but only today did I see this vid in it's entirety.

  • @alainaarrhodge5413
    @alainaarrhodge5413 4 роки тому

    Great video and I love the way you walk us through what's happening on screen and the why behind it. Model railroading at it's best! Thanks for sharing!!

  • @theevangelist6178
    @theevangelist6178 4 роки тому +3

    That guitar riff in your vids, that's a cool country touch.

  • @normanrowe2831
    @normanrowe2831 4 роки тому +63

    Hello, wonderful trains, beautiful scenery, intelligent, informative narration. But most of all....no distracting, horrible “ You Tube “ music. What’s not to love. Thank you.

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому +7

      Thanks Norman. Trying to stay away from distracting and annoying music as best as I can :) Appreciate the kind words. - Josh

  • @PickledDill907
    @PickledDill907 4 роки тому +1

    The detail in those locos is absolutely insane. (layouts great as well)

  • @arjnsdca
    @arjnsdca 4 роки тому +1

    Very informative. I always wondered about helper engines. Fantastic layout!!! Thanks for sharing this video!

  • @gacj2010
    @gacj2010 4 роки тому

    This is so real ...I just love it and with your narration.... beautiful...

  • @williamschlenger1518
    @williamschlenger1518 4 роки тому +2

    Great layout &great scenery. I like the length of the train .very reallistic.

  • @ryangrider9607
    @ryangrider9607 4 роки тому +31

    Manned helper operations with live loads, aka “How to measure the pucker factor”

  • @SharkyCartelRailroad
    @SharkyCartelRailroad 4 роки тому +6

    nice sound track it sounds like we are looking at the first train on saluda grade in 18 years

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Wish we could still see trains at Saluda. Much of the town "Grovestone" on the layout was modeled after Saluda.

    • @SharkyCartelRailroad
      @SharkyCartelRailroad 4 роки тому

      @@nsmodeler24 nice im thinking about modeling saluda on my csx layout but theres a problem im modelng summer/fall of 2021 and well im modeling CSX saluda is ns

  • @williambryant5946
    @williambryant5946 4 роки тому

    Its really awesome that you have to use the helpers because you actually need them! Way cool! Great video! 👍

  • @RailsOfTheSouthProductions
    @RailsOfTheSouthProductions 4 роки тому +2

    Personally, this is how I like helpers done. There’s something to manned crews that make the models that much cooler

  • @theophilhist6455
    @theophilhist6455 4 роки тому

    With all that I've done in modeling this live coal haul is truly the work of science, skill and amazing development. Great narration as well.

  • @bdd5748
    @bdd5748 4 роки тому

    You really have an amazing layout. This is truly realistic! It felt like I was watching a real train.

  • @shawnrogers8393
    @shawnrogers8393 4 роки тому +2

    Nice to see another that uses live loads

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому +2

      Shawn, I checked out a few of your videos and it seems like you have a neat operation. Thanks for sharing! - Josh

    • @shawnrogers8393
      @shawnrogers8393 4 роки тому

      @@nsmodeler24 yea, i have a small set up in my motorhome currently, using the upper bunk and one of the upper storage areas.
      I mainly use coal, sand, processed tree leaves,unused cat litter, floor dry for running around.
      My fictional is Challenger Rail Transport (CRX), it started back in 1983

    • @challengerrail1036
      @challengerrail1036 4 роки тому

      Shawn Rogers nsmodeler, here is my CRX page I was mentioning

  • @GrotrianSeiler
    @GrotrianSeiler 4 роки тому

    Impressive. All this work should be recognized.

  • @thedude3423
    @thedude3423 4 роки тому

    Wow! The filming is fantastic! Great composition. The layout itself is phenomenal also. Just awesome. Thanks for this! 😊👍

  • @gvet47
    @gvet47 4 роки тому

    Great operational descriptions! It looks like an interesting layout for what was shown. 👍

  • @rustyrailspikeproductions
    @rustyrailspikeproductions 4 роки тому +1

    This is amazing! The amount of realism is so amazing! Thank you for sharing this.

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words! Appreciate it :)

  • @rattacular12
    @rattacular12 4 роки тому +1

    This was a great vid. Thanks for posting. Always loved helper operations .

  • @stolasburrito74656
    @stolasburrito74656 4 роки тому

    I do model aircraft not trains (mostly because I like assembling them), but I still really respect and admire this hobby and the people (like you) who do it well and make it look realistic and elegant

  • @hiesler
    @hiesler 4 роки тому

    Outstanding video. The combination of quality modelling and videography is inspiring.

  • @jimtedesco
    @jimtedesco 4 роки тому +1

    That was amazing. I can't wait to see the rotary dumper in action.

  • @pewheretic7967
    @pewheretic7967 4 роки тому

    Not just a great layout and attention to detail...great videography! Fantastic way to capture it all. I have to binge watch and get caught up, but I hope to have a hundred questions and wanted to say thanks for the excitement.

  • @jmadden50
    @jmadden50 4 роки тому

    That's quite a layout & operation you have there. Great vid!

  • @kenfolstad1346
    @kenfolstad1346 4 роки тому

    This is an absolutely beautiful model rail road, WoW!!!!

  • @crazyman762
    @crazyman762 4 роки тому

    Truly 1 of the best HO layouts I have seen at least in video form. Very professional video as well.... I am in S Scale and use real coal too but glue it all in. The coal makes the cars heavy on purpose. They stay on the track most of the time. Thanks for posting.

  • @ibbylancaster8981
    @ibbylancaster8981 4 роки тому

    I live in the Eastern part of NC near the main line running north and south near Fayetteville NC and loved watching the trains coming south out of Fayetteville or north out of pembroke. This layout you guys have is astounding. Awesome work man. You guys truly have a labor of love. Bravo

  • @cedarvalleyrail8419
    @cedarvalleyrail8419 4 роки тому +3

    We need to have a livestream of this, such a cool operation

  • @mattmaz2
    @mattmaz2 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video Josh ! Looking forward to the next instalment 😊👍

  • @ronaldwatson1951
    @ronaldwatson1951 4 роки тому

    Great layout and wonderful moderation very calming. I have seen a 100 car coal train in Colorado. Good video

  • @stamrly418
    @stamrly418 2 роки тому

    Just awesome realistic operations that are needed wow. Great work

  • @toddbehrends1373
    @toddbehrends1373 4 роки тому

    Your attention to detail shows in the layout. Great to see the different things that you have done to the layout and the equipment.

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the kind words Todd. Means a lot. - Josh

  • @Mastertech6
    @Mastertech6 4 роки тому

    awesome lunch time watching, Thank you.

  • @805Hrowell
    @805Hrowell 4 роки тому

    Exceptional layout and videography. Thanks.

  • @irok1d
    @irok1d 4 роки тому

    Great narrative and filming.
    Incredible!

  • @voldog88
    @voldog88 4 роки тому

    Your layout is truly iconic wow

  • @deenice48
    @deenice48 2 роки тому

    I really enjoy this video looking at the locomotive hook up and seeing the helper keep up the good work 👍

  • @lunalie6938
    @lunalie6938 4 роки тому

    your backdrops blend in very well to the scenery! great work!!

  • @disturbed1954
    @disturbed1954 4 роки тому

    Josh that was another awesome video on that beautiful layout you and your dad built, thanks for sharing it with us!

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому

      Thanks David! Hope you're doing well and stay in touch! -Josh

  • @kraigsickels3918
    @kraigsickels3918 4 роки тому +1

    Great job on your layout and operations are very realistic 😃

  • @chadjohnsondash
    @chadjohnsondash 4 роки тому

    This is amazing I’m at work & stop what I was doing just to watch this.

  • @skillsustudent4841
    @skillsustudent4841 4 роки тому

    This was just like watching a real train. Thanks.

  • @dd_railvideos
    @dd_railvideos 4 роки тому +1

    Really great video as always Josh! Keep up the good work!

  • @larrydockery7201
    @larrydockery7201 4 роки тому

    all i got to say this is one hell of a layout dam good job

  • @billyreynolds4749
    @billyreynolds4749 4 роки тому

    Fantastic video!! I love your commentary with each video!! Thanks for sharing!

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому

      Thanks David! Was a lot of fun to film and share with everyone. Thanks for watching! - Josh

  • @NSProductions-jt5sh
    @NSProductions-jt5sh 4 роки тому

    I love your videos and thanks to u I love Norfolk Southern and I'm modeling NS your videos help me with ideas for my layout keep up the good work Josh- Dom

  • @rhythmrailroad1101
    @rhythmrailroad1101 4 роки тому +1

    WOW!!!!! What a great video!!! Incredibly well done both with performance and production! Really enjoying your videos and eager to see more! Thanks

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Really appreciate it! - Josh

  • @ericceulemans1532
    @ericceulemans1532 4 роки тому

    love this movie .greetz from belgium

  • @markhayes6407
    @markhayes6407 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting concept. More realistic too. NICE!

  • @derekrohan9619
    @derekrohan9619 4 роки тому

    Pretty cool layout.. great job with the weathering and what not ..

  • @palmettostaterailfan7019
    @palmettostaterailfan7019 4 роки тому +2

    Wow, awesome video, great layout , and gorgeous engines.

  • @Okrollins1
    @Okrollins1 4 роки тому

    Wow excellent video work. Dope train layout.

  • @_slashes
    @_slashes 3 роки тому

    Jeez those are some beautiful trains you got there

  • @HighballHenry
    @HighballHenry 4 роки тому +1

    Wow awesome prototypical horn lag on the SD70

  • @Jacobkorowin4014
    @Jacobkorowin4014 4 роки тому +3

    Great video Josh sir! You did a great job explaining everything sir!!

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the feedback Jacob! - Josh

  • @djpuglife2230
    @djpuglife2230 4 роки тому

    Looks fantastic I love it and Yea I agree that is some amazing realism

  • @cooltrains3723
    @cooltrains3723 4 роки тому

    Wonderful Layout!!!

  • @steve87thpsap
    @steve87thpsap 4 роки тому +1

    Great video and wonderful narrative.

  • @markmccummins8049
    @markmccummins8049 3 роки тому

    Excellent video, super railroad.

  • @shanestrains4056
    @shanestrains4056 4 роки тому +1

    Wow those lights on the SD70 are SICK!

  • @georgewettig1860
    @georgewettig1860 3 роки тому

    Very nicely done

  • @MattProtrains
    @MattProtrains 4 роки тому

    At one of the layout clubs I'm a part of, we have a spiral tunnel helix for trains to go from the lower level and the upper level. Ops sessions we have can get very intense, even more when we have a train stalled in the tunnel. I've once been called to do the helper engines, and it's such a challenge as we communicate our throttle speed. Fortunately no serious issues. You're hill is very impressive.

  • @jamiebarrow2979
    @jamiebarrow2979 4 роки тому +1

    Great video Josh, I have started to model NS and these are certainly great for inspiration. Keep them coming please 🙂

  • @cabincreek1692
    @cabincreek1692 4 роки тому

    Very nice video of a very nice layout.

  • @mattduke6490
    @mattduke6490 4 роки тому +1

    I love your channel. ALWAYS loved NS. Growing up in NC, its awesome to see your model of the Asheville district. I cant wait for your next video of the powerplant. Keep up the good work!

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому

      Thanks Matt! Always loved modeling the area as well. -Josh

    • @ragedknuckles4611
      @ragedknuckles4611 4 роки тому

      I go to Asheville sometimes I'm only an hour away in SC. I didn't realize how big the coal industry was for NC.

  • @mgr_video_productions
    @mgr_video_productions 4 роки тому

    Amazing video! I love all the realistic shots and scenes. It adds to the realism.

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you! Much appreciated. - Josh

  • @BradleyDCC
    @BradleyDCC 4 роки тому

    Excellent camera work and blend of real train sound effects! Background music really sets that mountain vibe, great job!

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому

      Thanks Arthur! If only we could get our rolling stock to ACTUALLY sound like that.... maybe that's an idea for some V5s?? haha

  • @tommylytle6636
    @tommylytle6636 4 роки тому +1

    I like your train videos

  • @jasonellis4139
    @jasonellis4139 4 роки тому +2

    Josh that was an awesome video... Enjoyed every moment 💯👍🏿💙 Great stuff man.

    • @nsmodeler24
      @nsmodeler24  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Jason!! Always appreciate the kind words and hope you're doing well! - Josh

  • @williamtozier4974
    @williamtozier4974 2 роки тому

    I really enjoyed the ride I'm 75 and justed started my ho railroad tojoyed

  • @anthonyreyes3820
    @anthonyreyes3820 4 роки тому

    I love the videos that you do this it makes it more realistic

  • @josephesposito5829
    @josephesposito5829 4 роки тому +1

    Great video keep up on the good work 👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍

  • @GamingOnTheRails019
    @GamingOnTheRails019 3 роки тому

    I love your channel!
    Your model gives me some inspiration because me and my Dad are doing a HO Scale Diorama of the Clinchfield Loops and the Spartanburg Amtrak Station with the tunnel.