Does Silicone Tires affect your track surface? The end of a Myth!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2021
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Rubber, Urethane and Sponge tires all will work together. They lay down rubber on your track surface which builds grip.
Silicone tires lift off that rubber build up this destroys the grip built up, in real racing called the Blue Groove.
We race with Rubber, Urethane and Sponge on a track with years of build up. Grip is amazing so no Silicone tires allowed here.
The added bonus, we do not need to constantly clean our tracks. Once in a while vacuum off the dust and race debris and race.
We use to race with Silicone tires but constant track cleaning gets old quickly, in switching to Rubber and even more so Scaleauto Sponge we have closer racing, grip is equal for all. We use these tires dry, no glue or messy oils, no spray glue on the tracks just built up rubber, just like a real race track.
Even stock Scalextric and Carrera tires have grip on a rubbered in track an added bonus for those who do not want to change tires on all their cars.
No silicone tires do not contaminate your track they clean off the rubber build up that the other types of tires need to get best performance. Sort of like a rain shower at a real track.
If you have your track in a dust free environment and do not mind changing tires on all your cars the Silicone tires work great. We chose to stick with Rubber Urethane and Sponge and get more race time 🏎🙂
"Get more racetime" You mean out of the tires? I read that silicone tires basically last forever?
Get more race time. This means less time cleaning tracks and more time racing.
Silicones do wear but are harder to true and resist wear more than the other mentioned tires.
We decided after racing with Silicone tires for several years, and the constant track preparation required for consistent grip, to switch to no silicone and get more time racing as a benefit.
As mentioned earlier we also find many of our customers and racers do not want to change tires on all their cars, an added expense.
But always your choice, either silicone on all your cars or Rubber, Urethane and Sponge. Which includes stock tires from all the Major brands. No Slot Car Manufacturer fits silicone stock.
@@ScaleRacinggreat info thanks. So I’m running urethane and carerra stock. I want all urethane but your saying stock will help build grip as well? I actually put on Paul gage urethane front and rear on all my cot nascars. As for cleaning track I pretty much just vacuum the track slot .
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Rubber lays down in the Grove silicone removes the Grove.
Silicone is faster on a clean track but will not tolerate a dirty track.
Rubber will tolerate a dirty track.
No matter what tire is tried on my track, the lap time is best with silicone, silicone tires cant be sanded and dont seem to need truing. Urethane tires slide better I think? Ive tried the lap time thing back to back with urethane/silicone and silicone is always faster. On plastic carrera track.
I wipe the track with a Swiffer once before racing starts.
Some tracks run silicone, some run rubber.
I run non-magnet cars and I found that after running cars with silicone that this affected the handling on cars with rubber tires, so I don't use silicone tires. I had to clean my track with isopropyl alcohol to get rid of the silicone residue. I never liked silicone tires.
The silicone doesn't leave a residue...they actually clean the track and remove the rubber that is built up...thus removing the grip.
So not a myth.
Even on the sixties as a kid in Australia it was discussed by the rich racing kids to me and the effect being silicone tyres were banned on the local club track.
Even in the early 2000s this cropped up in our racing group in an enduro when one team ran some newly purchased silicone tyres and the other teams on rubber lost so much grip on the lanes where the silicone had been used. Even more than your test but starting from a rubbered up track from racing rubber all year.
Ferrodore DuPont bridge paint surface used at the time.
People felt cheated for grip but likely accidental choice of tyre not knowing the historic learnings.
Silicones banned on every track I have raced at in Australia.
Very,very good my friend!!!
It would have been interesting to see the state of the silicon tyres after that session. If they removed the previous rubber layer where did it all go?
Its such a tiny amount of rubber or urethane, hard to say.
The cars dont weigh enough to push down and lay much rubber. 80 gram car or so.
When I raced Flattrack, the blue groove tracks took a lot of rubber, some tracks that would end up being the slickest line, not the fastest. Some tracks the rubber laid down made for good traction. It varies a lot.
Thank you
Never ever use silicon tyres or always. Easy as that.
Exactly.
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We run silicone tires on my track and it’s nearly impossible to run a car with rubber or foam. Urethane will work ok but not as good. I think silicone puts its own residue down because you can definitely see a groove on the track. There’s not a lot of stuff that will stick to silicone but silicone stick to itself more then anything.
Silicone tyres do the same job as the tape or lint roller does ie lifts what it can off the track surface.
How do I see 2 tens of a second difference while watching car go around track. 🤔
2/10 is a lot, the differences are usually smaller than that. What really makes fast lap times is being a better slot car driver. A car can look fast, but not really be fast.
A digital lap timer of some sort is needed. Makes it more fun to know who really did a fast lap. I run silicone and urethane tires on same track with 0 problems.
Wood tracks are a different animal, painted track is different, different plastic tracks have different grip. Its not exactly a cut and dried thing for tires.
So is silicone good or bad for tires?
On a clean track...silicone is hands down faster than rubber/uerethane. The issue lies in a dirty track...rubber will handle a dirty track, silicone will not, the silicone picks up all the residue and debris and the tires then lose their grip. So if you clean your track often, go silicone...if you often have a dirty track, run rubber.
I’m confused. “Myth” usually means some commonly held story or idea that isn’t true. So why do you call it that before even doing a test, that at the end of the day seems to confirm the “myth”? I know very little about slot cars and less about their tires, but this was a confusing way to set up your premise (and title your video)
Sorry you failed and not bothering to watch... Such an unreal test..... Yeah only 40 laps with rubber and hmmm... Let's see 200 laps with silicone... End video.