if it was any other caster i would advise against this because you will always have smartalecs that will try to disagree with you, but Artosis has _decades_ of deep and extremely high-level experience with this game and i think his post-game analysis here is absolutely 100% right, he knows his stuff very well
@@aaronscholes1541 A brood war tournament for some of the best non-koreans in the world. Starts Dec 9th. Arty's been practicing a lot for it for over a month now.
me when I just finished making food and I open youtube looking for something to watch, and see a new upload by Artosis timed from 2 minutes ago: EE HAN TIMING!!
Startosis has been working closely with Santa Claws this year and they may even switch primary roles with Santa using his magic deer to gather minerals while Startosis will shimmy down chimneys!
I feel like that was still very winnable for nOOb. He had 7 goons in queue, while Scan was out of money and had no units in queue. With only 3 tanks + 4 vultures and 1 more of each coming across the map, all nOOb would need to do is wait for 1 more round of units, and he probably breaks the contain. 4 tanks and 5 vultures isn't much vs 12-13 goons + whatever is made with the next round of production.
He left because the vultures were at his 4th base, they would kill all the probes there if he stayed. Then he would be on 1 base with 20 workers vs scan 20 workers on 2 base plus tanks sieged on his natural. Not a winnable position, even if he clears the tanks he cant mine from the 4th base safely with vultures on the map so he would have to retake the natural while Scan can produce 2 scvs at a time and put them mining immediately.
@@TheSuperappelflap There were only 8 vultures on the entire map; 2 at the 4th, 5 with the contain, and 1 coming across, and Scan had no units in queue. The 4th had 2 cannons, and he's about to have enough units to easily break the contain. It's not enough time to make up the 12-14 worker difference for Scan, even if he kills half that difference, and once that contain is broken, nOOb would be solidly ahead. Even without waiting for another round of zealots, the 12 goons and DT could probably clear the contain. I get that he left because there was a contain and there were vultures, but it was premature. He didn't realize just how little production Scan had going on and how few units were actually still maintaining the contain.
@@TheSuperappelflap With 2 cannons there, the vultures would be dying in the process, and they probably wouldn't kill every probe; one of the initial 3 that had been sent into the 4th was already dead.
I used to love the tradition of saying "hi" every time you spotted your opponent for the first time. I die a little more inside every time both players ignore this.
Hey Arty! The casts are great as always, but I was wondering if you could continue adding a few extra minutes of post-game analysis to "pad out" the video length for these short-mid length games. I feel that if the video doesn't last at least 20ish minutes it's easy for me to spoil the result of the match for myself by already knowing that it ends after only 1 or 2 engagements. Otherwise keep it up! This stuff is great.
I would disagree :) Sometimes I want to see video when I have lunch break or before I go out somewhere when I have little time and if video is below 15 mins this is perfect for me, but if I saw video 20 mins long or more I would skip it until evening.
For Christmas I asked Santa Claws for a 3v3 pro match up on BGH. on the Orange team we have Startosis, Tasteless, and Scan vs On the white team we have Falcon Paladin, Snow, and JyJ... who wins? can yall 6 make this happen for a charity event or something?
Noob sees that scan only has 2 bases, still goes greedy mode and takes 4th. I understand that he was anticipating a CC to float out, but better gor 3 base army and delay terrans third as he still would be in advantageous position.
Noob was just so greedy here. Super quick 3rd was fine but doing a reaver harass and building a 4th nexus was just overkill. He pretty much forced terran to go allin but then died to it.
I disagree. I don't think the 4th nexus was too greedy -- I think sending the reavers to do eco damage was too greedy. He's gotta know what he's doing in expanding so fast, so he's gotta know that he's gonna be ahead in economy. He should just have gotten units and held on, but instead he tried to win more.
Isn't it crazy that protoss is ahead in workers, bases, and army for the majority of the game until the push? Also why don't terrans just build the gas first before it is stolen, not worth for 1 scv lost mining?
Nahhh, noob just didn’t even attempt to slow down the push at all…he didn’t even force one siege. Just let scan’s army literally walk up and siege outside his natural. What’s the point of the double reaver drop when you kill 30+ scv’s and it doesn’t matter? Bad decision-making
@@abstractdaddy1384 terran is way overpowered anyway. It's just hard to micro, which keeps the balance healthy on lower levels, but an S tier terran beats S tier protoss and zerg easily by now.
@@eulogp9888 That's really not how things are. The balance is horrible at low levels (equally skilled protoss will destroy terrans below S rank) But even then it's not much better at S+ rank. Take BSL for example. It's basically just Mihu against a sea of zergs and protoss.
I liked the post-game analysis. I'd like to see this more of this in future casts.
Yeah, agreed! Especially since if you don't like it, you can just hop off the video having already seen everything you came for.
yea i agree, excellent vid from artosis
Big agree. The 30-60 seconds of post game analysis is super fun
if it was any other caster i would advise against this because you will always have smartalecs that will try to disagree with you, but Artosis has _decades_ of deep and extremely high-level experience with this game and i think his post-game analysis here is absolutely 100% right, he knows his stuff very well
Agreed. Really liked the analysis on this one.
The dwarves delved too greedily and too deep…
LMAO
FUN time
Damn what a cast. Arty's fucking killing it.
Good luck in Thailand! I'll be rooting for you!
@abstractdaddy1384
What's in Thailand?
@@aaronscholes1541
A brood war tournament for some of the best non-koreans in the world. Starts Dec 9th. Arty's been practicing a lot for it for over a month now.
@@abstractdaddy1384what's the tournament called?
Early zealot pressure is just so good in every matchup. Zealot HP feels infinite when you're trying to kill them with a handful of marines.
Noob had a vision of the entire map, except for that shortest straight path between his and Scan's bases. Beyond weird.
More post-game analysis, please. It elevates your videos from great to *awesome.*
Keep up the good work.
me when I just finished making food and I open youtube looking for something to watch, and see a new upload by Artosis timed from 2 minutes ago: EE HAN TIMING!!
My boy Scan :D
Don't worry about the post-game analysis, I'm pretty sure we all enjoy it. Anyways no one is forced to watch it
Startosis has been working closely with Santa Claws this year and they may even switch primary roles with Santa using his magic deer to gather minerals while Startosis will shimmy down chimneys!
These casts have been exceptionally good lately
@@2slick4u. no doubt they are inspired by Christmas cheer!!
Thank you for being Artosis, Artosis.
Textbook execution by the winner
Amazing game by scan. Noob was setting up a really strong position for himself but scan was able to attack at the right time before it was too late.
great to see scan again!!
I feel like that was still very winnable for nOOb. He had 7 goons in queue, while Scan was out of money and had no units in queue. With only 3 tanks + 4 vultures and 1 more of each coming across the map, all nOOb would need to do is wait for 1 more round of units, and he probably breaks the contain. 4 tanks and 5 vultures isn't much vs 12-13 goons + whatever is made with the next round of production.
I actually thought scan was the one who surrendered, but I guess n00b hadn’t realised just how much damage he’d done to scans economy
He left because the vultures were at his 4th base, they would kill all the probes there if he stayed. Then he would be on 1 base with 20 workers vs scan 20 workers on 2 base plus tanks sieged on his natural. Not a winnable position, even if he clears the tanks he cant mine from the 4th base safely with vultures on the map so he would have to retake the natural while Scan can produce 2 scvs at a time and put them mining immediately.
@@TheSuperappelflap There were only 8 vultures on the entire map; 2 at the 4th, 5 with the contain, and 1 coming across, and Scan had no units in queue. The 4th had 2 cannons, and he's about to have enough units to easily break the contain.
It's not enough time to make up the 12-14 worker difference for Scan, even if he kills half that difference, and once that contain is broken, nOOb would be solidly ahead.
Even without waiting for another round of zealots, the 12 goons and DT could probably clear the contain.
I get that he left because there was a contain and there were vultures, but it was premature. He didn't realize just how little production Scan had going on and how few units were actually still maintaining the contain.
@@Matt-ln7lb The vultures would kill all the probes at the fourth in the time it takes to break the contain
@@TheSuperappelflap With 2 cannons there, the vultures would be dying in the process, and they probably wouldn't kill every probe; one of the initial 3 that had been sent into the 4th was already dead.
Bro 10:04 that mine drag could have completely turned the game if it took a bite out of those tanks.
Epic final battle at 12:08
These videos are great for maintaining some understanding of the meta between ASLs!
Very cutthroat game, that was great!! So close
Good game. Thanks for the cast Artosis!
SCAN SCAN SCAN SCAN
I used to love the tradition of saying "hi" every time you spotted your opponent for the first time. I die a little more inside every time both players ignore this.
Жадность фраера сгубила! Четвертый нексус был лишним!
Love the post-game analysis. Also, drink more water. We do want to have this channel going on forever.
Hey Arty! The casts are great as always, but I was wondering if you could continue adding a few extra minutes of post-game analysis to "pad out" the video length for these short-mid length games. I feel that if the video doesn't last at least 20ish minutes it's easy for me to spoil the result of the match for myself by already knowing that it ends after only 1 or 2 engagements. Otherwise keep it up! This stuff is great.
I would disagree :) Sometimes I want to see video when I have lunch break or before I go out somewhere when I have little time and if video is below 15 mins this is perfect for me, but if I saw video 20 mins long or more I would skip it until evening.
@@arturkubat4402 that's what ZvZ is for lol 10 minutes or less 😅
great cast! you inspired me to cast games too. hope i can be as good as you one day.
Really awesome stuff.. would mind seeing ur mug as part of the cast as well
EEEEEEE HAAAANNNNN TIMINNNNGGGGGG
I agree the break downs are great. Help me understand what's going on!
What a great game 🙂
man this protoss sooo greedy
Gg. Great cast as always, Artosis.
love this
Starcraft Broodwar vocabulary trivia: "EE HAN TIMING" 😄😍.
For Christmas I asked Santa Claws for a 3v3 pro match up on BGH. on the Orange team we have Startosis, Tasteless, and Scan vs On the white team we have Falcon Paladin, Snow, and JyJ... who wins? can yall 6 make this happen for a charity event or something?
artosis grinding
Cool Beans!
and cheese dip!
FANASTIC GAME!!! A REAL NAIL BITER!!!
Great game!
Wow, what a big turn back from Scan.. really good base trading there 2-1. Reavers dropping weren’t strong enough to stop that attack.
we knew what was gonna happen when we saw game last 14 min and 3rd nexus at 4th min, i mean come on.
Very technical game.
🎉yay🎉 artosis uploads
For GD Artosis
Casting is good and all, but when will you do that anti-shuttle medic flare build from the strategy guide?
Or did I miss it somehow??
Scan's a genius.
So many times Arty misses a DT drop or something I’d love to see more post game highlights
That was a good game
Sick game! Scans BW IQ knowing when to go in for the kill and he pulled it off
you know you are watching artosis when you hear the word literally at least 10 times a game
Literally
lol. Quite a dejavu indeed.
toss could've won if the shuttle didn't die. it had 3 zaelots in it still.
Is a win for toss if he didn't start his 4th.
So ridiculous only two Reavers f up the whole Terran army. Clearly OP.
Production*
Please cast some of your games that are gonna be in Thailand!
Great post game.
Noob sees that scan only has 2 bases, still goes greedy mode and takes 4th. I understand that he was anticipating a CC to float out, but better gor 3 base army and delay terrans third as he still would be in advantageous position.
14.23 deed teh bunker won teh gaim?
why we never see T v T
Noob was just so greedy here. Super quick 3rd was fine but doing a reaver harass and building a 4th nexus was just overkill. He pretty much forced terran to go allin but then died to it.
Scan awesome game
why is it called ee han timing?
Love scan always ^.^
I disagree. I don't think the 4th nexus was too greedy -- I think sending the reavers to do eco damage was too greedy. He's gotta know what he's doing in expanding so fast, so he's gotta know that he's gonna be ahead in economy. He should just have gotten units and held on, but instead he tried to win more.
Can we get some more TvZ games?
Great casting. I'd prefer a less spoiler-y title.
Scan donated $3.33...
Isn't it crazy that protoss is ahead in workers, bases, and army for the majority of the game until the push? Also why don't terrans just build the gas first before it is stolen, not worth for 1 scv lost mining?
I hope you do this forever too. (L)
cant be having games under 10 mins cause i need to finish my breakfast. 14 is ok lol
EZ Protoss
Everyones favourite terran player..... dfgdhfgdfgdhfgd
❤❤
I think this is hands down the most greedy protoss play ive seen so far.
lay mines, siege, win. Thats all that is for TvP
Tesagi
: )
great game but feels like a tad bit too early of a gg.
Nahhh, noob just didn’t even attempt to slow down the push at all…he didn’t even force one siege. Just let scan’s army literally walk up and siege outside his natural. What’s the point of the double reaver drop when you kill 30+ scv’s and it doesn’t matter? Bad decision-making
Artosis is only interested casting TvP's won by terrans.
He doesn't know what the results of the games are before he casts them.
@@abstractdaddy1384 terran is way overpowered anyway. It's just hard to micro, which keeps the balance healthy on lower levels, but an S tier terran beats S tier protoss and zerg easily by now.
@@eulogp9888
That's really not how things are. The balance is horrible at low levels (equally skilled protoss will destroy terrans below S rank)
But even then it's not much better at S+ rank. Take BSL for example. It's basically just Mihu against a sea of zergs and protoss.
playing against noobs is easy
Surprisingly bad marine micro vs the zealots at start. Scan is usually much better than this. I wonder what was going on distracting him.
I generally don't like Boomers, but Artosis seems to be one of the really good ones.
I don't think he's a boomer but a millennial... as boomers were born between de 50s and 60s
Yep he's 40. Older Millenial.
Gen Z uses the word "boomer" to refer to anyone older than them.
I was hoping I'm first :(
silver looks better than gold anyway!
plus it's #69
I know you're a BW guy but u should do some other games in addition to BW, like sc2 and stormgate.