Hello. I have developed a popping sound especially in my right shoulder, it either started after a 2 months of doing sort of heavy deadlifts on a hyperextension machine for my back, and weighted isometrics, in all exercises the bar is grabbed overhand, shoulder width apart, arms outstretched as though I’m about to hug someone (I’m somewhat horizontal on the machine, so this is basically downward), I’m not using my arms or upper back at all, they’re just holding the weight, which worked fantastic for my back pain, OR when I first started training shoulders again, which I did once, felt fine, but before the next shoulder workout was scheduled they were popping. I cannot tell/remember which one caused it, it all happened around the same time. Initially when it started to hurt it was a pain on the front of my shoulders and shooting down my bicep, hurting most of all when arms were overheard, like if you scratch the back of your head or if you’re putting a T shirt on. However this was mostly in the left arm and it’s the right shoulder that’s the real issue. I thought it was some kind of bicep tendinitis as I’d been doing a variation on the hyperextending machine where I hold the weight as a curled isometric as this makes torso flexion possible, i can deliberately round my back and unround it, I stopped this, as I heard sometimes heavy deadlifters accidentally curl the weight with their bicep (obviously from a completely extended arm position) while lifting and it tears the bicep or something. I supposed a long heavy isometric bicep curl (merely as a method of holding the weight) perhaps was bad for bicep tendon. I thought maybe the curled isometric or even the dangling straight arm variations were stressing the tendon too much, however it was only 20kg and I can curl more than that. It never ever hurts while doing the exercise. I figure maybe it has the effect of pulling the arms down and in that orientation it essentially moves the shoulder further forward in the joint. I tried abandoning weights entirely and using a resistance band but it’s so much worse as a back exercise for kyphosis and weak lower back compared to the weighted versions, also less easy to control the movement, inferior in all regards. It’s so confusing as what seemed to start as bicep tendon/outer shoulder musculature pain issue become a mostly-painless (uncomfortable and scary though) popping of the side least affected by the (potential) bicep tendinitis. Maybe these are not actually the same issue? Did I mess my shoulder up AND get a bicep tendon issue, which healed leaving me only with shoulder impingement or a damaged shoulder joint? It seems confusing and unfair as I’m very controlled when I do any exercise and try to use good form, kyphosis basically contorts any form to be bad. When I do a standing bicep flex or something like a plate raise, deep inside the shoulder pops like crazy. There’s sort of 2 separate pops after each other. I do a lunge with torso twist for back and hip health, but now the right arm when holding the body up hurts in the shoulder, never used to, that’s in the position of the W, only the force is sidewards, pushing the shoulder inside the body. Maybe as I’ve re-centred the shoulder (visible improvement on rounded shoulders) I’ve moved out of an alignment where my shoulders are strong into a more correct one where they’re weaker? Similar thing happens with my back, as I straighten it, it’s in a position that’s not been trained, I’m stronger hunched over. Is this just bro-science! Important to note that I have kyphosis, pelvic tilt, rounded shoulders. I’ve been doing some of the basic shoulder impingement rehab exercises and they have reduced the forward roundedness of my shoulders and the popping noise volume but not eliminated it. In plate raises on tight shoulder it’s even worse than before I started rehabbing my shoulders. I’m used to being injured and having awful joints but I am mortified that I may have messed up my shoulders, being as that was the only joint not giving me issues :( I am wondering if the exercises in this video would be superior to the exercises normally recommended on UA-cam like lying down and sort of supernating your shoulder like a sidewards bicep curl. I sometimes get popping in the left shoulder (the “good” one) when I do it. The muscles are certainly extremely weak, compared to everything else for me. Sorry for such a long, verbose comment. I try to get all the details in but don’t know the correct terminology for everything.
I’m sorry but there sounds like a lot going on there.. best bet would be to book in with a sports physiotherapist to try and tackle your issues!.. best of luck
If they are hurting you could try something with less variables like a standard Cuban rotation.. or even just some internal/external rotations with a resistance band
That’s hard to answer.. people experience a wide variety of shoulder issues, some click with no pain; other have pain. If you have pain definitely see a physio or sports doctor. Clicking might happen due to tightness, impingement, joint laxity.. rule of thumb, if it causes pain, seek further assessment!
Hi there! So if you look to the 3 minute mark they are combined.. the L is the retraction followed by lifting the elbows to the sky.. the W is the external rotation of the arms at the shoulder joint which when you look at front on, forms the W. Sorry for any confusion 💪🏻
Yeah it’s a solid warm up or accessory. I prefer it to face pulls as you movement through more ranges of motion. Twice a week is definitely fine! Enjoy 💪🏻
The best of UA-cam for this type of exercise! Great work!💪💪
Thank you!!!
These are really good exercises if properly done. Thank you!
Thank you!!
good and perfect tutorial!
Thank you kindly!!
You dont need to lift off the bench, these exercise targets small upper back not lower back extensers
So you combine the W and L raises into one movement?
Yes to include the rotator cuffs more 💪🏻
Hello. I have developed a popping sound especially in my right shoulder, it either started after a 2 months of doing sort of heavy deadlifts on a hyperextension machine for my back, and weighted isometrics, in all exercises the bar is grabbed overhand, shoulder width apart, arms outstretched as though I’m about to hug someone (I’m somewhat horizontal on the machine, so this is basically downward), I’m not using my arms or upper back at all, they’re just holding the weight, which worked fantastic for my back pain, OR when I first started training shoulders again, which I did once, felt fine, but before the next shoulder workout was scheduled they were popping. I cannot tell/remember which one caused it, it all happened around the same time.
Initially when it started to hurt it was a pain on the front of my shoulders and shooting down my bicep, hurting most of all when arms were overheard, like if you scratch the back of your head or if you’re putting a T shirt on. However this was mostly in the left arm and it’s the right shoulder that’s the real issue. I thought it was some kind of bicep tendinitis as I’d been doing a variation on the hyperextending machine where I hold the weight as a curled isometric as this makes torso flexion possible, i can deliberately round my back and unround it, I stopped this, as I heard sometimes heavy deadlifters accidentally curl the weight with their bicep (obviously from a completely extended arm position) while lifting and it tears the bicep or something. I supposed a long heavy isometric bicep curl (merely as a method of holding the weight) perhaps was bad for bicep tendon. I thought maybe the curled isometric or even the dangling straight arm variations were stressing the tendon too much, however it was only 20kg and I can curl more than that. It never ever hurts while doing the exercise. I figure maybe it has the effect of pulling the arms down and in that orientation it essentially moves the shoulder further forward in the joint. I tried abandoning weights entirely and using a resistance band but it’s so much worse as a back exercise for kyphosis and weak lower back compared to the weighted versions, also less easy to control the movement, inferior in all regards. It’s so confusing as what seemed to start as bicep tendon/outer shoulder musculature pain issue become a mostly-painless (uncomfortable and scary though) popping of the side least affected by the (potential) bicep tendinitis. Maybe these are not actually the same issue? Did I mess my shoulder up AND get a bicep tendon issue, which healed leaving me only with shoulder impingement or a damaged shoulder joint?
It seems confusing and unfair as I’m very controlled when I do any exercise and try to use good form, kyphosis basically contorts any form to be bad.
When I do a standing bicep flex or something like a plate raise, deep inside the shoulder pops like crazy. There’s sort of 2 separate pops after each other.
I do a lunge with torso twist for back and hip health, but now the right arm when holding the body up hurts in the shoulder, never used to, that’s in the position of the W, only the force is sidewards, pushing the shoulder inside the body. Maybe as I’ve re-centred the shoulder (visible improvement on rounded shoulders) I’ve moved out of an alignment where my shoulders are strong into a more correct one where they’re weaker? Similar thing happens with my back, as I straighten it, it’s in a position that’s not been trained, I’m stronger hunched over. Is this just bro-science!
Important to note that I have kyphosis, pelvic tilt, rounded shoulders.
I’ve been doing some of the basic shoulder impingement rehab exercises and they have reduced the forward roundedness of my shoulders and the popping noise volume but not eliminated it. In plate raises on tight shoulder it’s even worse than before I started rehabbing my shoulders. I’m used to being injured and having awful joints but I am mortified that I may have messed up my shoulders, being as that was the only joint not giving me issues :( I am wondering if the exercises in this video would be superior to the exercises normally recommended on UA-cam like lying down and sort of supernating your shoulder like a sidewards bicep curl. I sometimes get popping in the left shoulder (the “good” one) when I do it. The muscles are certainly extremely weak, compared to everything else for me.
Sorry for such a long, verbose comment. I try to get all the details in but don’t know the correct terminology for everything.
I’m sorry but there sounds like a lot going on there.. best bet would be to book in with a sports physiotherapist to try and tackle your issues!.. best of luck
@@TheStrengthInstitute you’re probably right, thanks for the reply
My shoulders started clicking and hurting after the rotating ones.
If they are hurting you could try something with less variables like a standard Cuban rotation.. or even just some internal/external rotations with a resistance band
Does this hit the rear delts at all?
Yeah it will hit the rear delts..
Is it alright to have shoulder clicking on the "L' exercise, will it go away if I do it enough times?
That’s hard to answer.. people experience a wide variety of shoulder issues, some click with no pain; other have pain. If you have pain definitely see a physio or sports doctor. Clicking might happen due to tightness, impingement, joint laxity.. rule of thumb, if it causes pain, seek further assessment!
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I didn’t see you perform the W’s. Can you update to include? Thanks
Hi there! So if you look to the 3 minute mark they are combined.. the L is the retraction followed by lifting the elbows to the sky.. the W is the external rotation of the arms at the shoulder joint which when you look at front on, forms the W. Sorry for any confusion 💪🏻
@@TheStrengthInstitute thanks for the clarification, I thought you missed L :D
what weight is that dumbbells
Only light weights for the YTWL’s.. 1-4kg is a good starting point until you can really hold a strong scapula retraction 💪🏻
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how often do you recommend doing this exercise? I follow a 6 day PPL and am currently doing this every pull day (twice a week). Is that okay?
Yeah you can do it twice a week, are you using it as a warm up or a working exercise?
@@TheStrengthInstitute Mostly an accessory to my main lifts. I was doing facepulls, but this looks better to me.
Yeah it’s a solid warm up or accessory. I prefer it to face pulls as you movement through more ranges of motion. Twice a week is definitely fine! Enjoy 💪🏻
Can i do this instead face pulls?
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w should be like facepull...
why everyone who didn't know anatomy teach YTWL exercise???
Like most exercises there are many variations 💪🏻.. face pull video is coming soon though 😉
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