As much as I hate missing classes, I do find that after two days off the mats I come back way sharper. But I also do a lot of research and “mental” rolling while I’m off.
I absolutely love this guy Gordon i align with him and his philosophy. He speaks about not trying to win every single round during training and to scale back and its just training. I need to adopt this way of thinking because always feel as if i have todo stellar at every single practice and it kills my internal energy .
Garry’s statement of if your not training go and watch training hit home for me. I find just being there and observing techniques keeps my mind sharp and in learning mode. Great tip thanks!
As a physiotherapist I agree with this concepts : avoid completely movements or training it’s necessary only in a very small percentage, there’s evidence in that, so train different parts or in a different way or at low amplitude or speed the technical movements will help the recover
I would love to hear the same questions about guys training in their 50’s. Whole different perspective. Like what couldnt i do in my 20’s every day? I never even stretched before a workout before 40’s
It’s actually the same general perspective. In the beginning Gordon said he’s not going balls out rolling everyday. Some days are technique. Some days you just let people put you in bad positions. The problem is that in schools that don’t evolve you have guys in their 50s still rolling hard in every class they attend. And they have no idea why they don’t progress or keep getting injured 🤷🏻♂️
Just listen to your body, it'll let you know when it's the right time to train and rest. Disclaimer: it comes from the guy who never listened to his body, completely ignored alarm bells, trained injured and fucked up his body completely.
I love the games of Ryan and Tonon and like to see them succeed. So it comes from a place of respect and affection when I say… maybe the fact that they are training 7 days a week is part of why they have severe gastrointestinal issues and alopecia, respectively? No doubt that their extreme dedication has helped get them as far as they have gone. They are both amazingly accomplished. …but maybe they could still be world champions training six days a week? I think it’s likely. I respect the sacrifice. But I question whether it’s worth it. Of course, that’s their decision to make, and I imagine they believe they’ve made the best one for themselves. It’s each man’s decision to make for himself. But it’s maybe not something the rest of us need to emulate? The rest of the ideas are fantastic though, thanks for the share.
Are you sure they not overworking their bodies though? One suffers from intense gastrointestinal distress, and one literally has clumps of hair falling out of his head due to stress-related alopecia. I’m not saying that it’s certain that they wouldn’t have these conditions without the seven days a week of training. …But it’s definitely plausible that seven days a week of training is a contributing factor. I believe that Tonon has stated that his intermittent hair loss is stress related. Correct me if I’m wrong. While it is not medically certain whether Ryan’s gastrointestinal issues are specifically stress related, at least to my knowledge, it is certainly plausible that they could be… Or at the very least, he might have had a better chance of taking care of them if he had taken at least a day off a week to try to do so. Just some thoughts to consider. Am I saying they made the wrong choices? No, not necessarily for them. But are unusual health issues a potential side effect of training seven days a week? I think so.
Thing is, as big a fan as I am of Mr Ryan, everyone knows that one of the biggest things that steroids allow you to have is vastly reduced recovery times. Without gear, is it realistic to advise people to do 7x a week training and 4x a week lifting? I very much doubt it. It's not good coaching to apply the same schedule that a juiced athlete has to a natural athlete.
It can be done. Not every day has to be intense live rolling, some days could be an hour of light rolling and an hour of drilling. Or if you really feel beat down you could just drill that day. Either way the consistency of training every day and having your mind on Jiu jitsu at least an hour every day is very beneficial. For lifting it has to be minimalistic when you’re putting so much energy into Jiu jitsu already.
Well i am 26 and i train about morning and evening 6 weeks a day- sometimes even 7 and i have figured out its okay if i manage my hard roll times and also if i do once every two month a longer break of a bout 3 days - works fine for me- i feel like shit but i am sharp and hungry so i keep on
thats beein g said: all the messages we get from instagram and gordon and who ever.... i dont care about them i just do the much training i can do and the long as it feel right - steroids maybe in my 40's - for now i am okay by suffering for my passion
What about bow an arrow choke alot missing in no gee gotta train both its easier to go from gi to know gi it forces you to be more technical and gi would be closer to a street fight people are usually wearing clothes in real life where you can use any grips for possessions or chokes
As much as I hate missing classes, I do find that after two days off the mats I come back way sharper. But I also do a lot of research and “mental” rolling while I’m off.
I absolutely love this guy Gordon i align with him and his philosophy. He speaks about not trying to win every single round during training and to scale back and its just training. I need to adopt this way of thinking because always feel as if i have todo stellar at every single practice and it kills my internal energy .
Garry’s statement of if your not training go and watch training hit home for me. I find just being there and observing techniques keeps my mind sharp and in learning mode. Great tip thanks!
it's a good point, but I do have other stuff to do :)
@@phlandis2 I train with my son so rather than drop him off I will stay and watch what is being taught.
As a physiotherapist I agree with this concepts : avoid completely movements or training it’s necessary only in a very small percentage, there’s evidence in that, so train different parts or in a different way or at low amplitude or speed the technical movements will help the recover
Thank you Gordon, Gary & Bernardo !
I would love to hear the same questions about guys training in their 50’s. Whole different perspective. Like what couldnt i do in my 20’s every day? I never even stretched before a workout before 40’s
I would say be as comprehensive in your warmup/ recovery as you need to be
Definitely get ready for many nagging, chronic injuries. Pick a joint, any joint. I’m 61 trained for over 20 years.
Maybe try TRT, under direction of the right Dr who won't prescribe crazy amounts like body builders.
It’s actually the same general perspective. In the beginning Gordon said he’s not going balls out rolling everyday. Some days are technique. Some days you just let people put you in bad positions. The problem is that in schools that don’t evolve you have guys in their 50s still rolling hard in every class they attend. And they have no idea why they don’t progress or keep getting injured 🤷🏻♂️
Gordon has already had a lot of injuries.
Huge honour every time i watch a Bernardo Video 🙏🙏🙏
Just listen to your body, it'll let you know when it's the right time to train and rest. Disclaimer: it comes from the guy who never listened to his body, completely ignored alarm bells, trained injured and fucked up his body completely.
First! Thank you Gordon and Gary!
Great video. Thanks guys!
Thank you all!! Dream Team Baby!!!
9:15 AHA! HE ADMITS IT.
Huge honor for me
watching garrys faces throughout gordon talking😂
what about it? I see nothing
Thanks so much ! I would like to know if they add cardio sessions to their routine ?
Very precious information thank you !
I love the games of Ryan and Tonon and like to see them succeed.
So it comes from a place of respect and affection when I say… maybe the fact that they are training 7 days a week is part of why they have severe gastrointestinal issues and alopecia, respectively?
No doubt that their extreme dedication has helped get them as far as they have gone. They are both amazingly accomplished.
…but maybe they could still be world champions training six days a week? I think it’s likely.
I respect the sacrifice. But I question whether it’s worth it.
Of course, that’s their decision to make, and I imagine they believe they’ve made the best one for themselves. It’s each man’s decision to make for himself.
But it’s maybe not something the rest of us need to emulate?
The rest of the ideas are fantastic though, thanks for the share.
Are you sure they not overworking their bodies though?
One suffers from intense gastrointestinal distress, and one literally has clumps of hair falling out of his head due to stress-related alopecia.
I’m not saying that it’s certain that they wouldn’t have these conditions without the seven days a week of training.
…But it’s definitely plausible that seven days a week of training is a contributing factor.
I believe that Tonon has stated that his intermittent hair loss is stress related. Correct me if I’m wrong.
While it is not medically certain whether Ryan’s gastrointestinal issues are specifically stress related, at least to my knowledge, it is certainly plausible that they could be… Or at the very least, he might have had a better chance of taking care of them if he had taken at least a day off a week to try to do so.
Just some thoughts to consider.
Am I saying they made the wrong choices? No, not necessarily for them.
But are unusual health issues a potential side effect of training seven days a week? I think so.
They aren't training 7 days a week because they take days off when they need to do irl obligations.
OK, so they train like 6.85 days per week then. The point still stands I think.
@@jsera no way they aren't overtraining.
Thanks for all the great videos!
New Bernardo vid in my sub box, huge honor for me.
If you're lifting heavy 3-5 times per week and rolling 7 days per week, you are juiced out of your mind!
I do that and I don’t juice. Some ppl are capable of doing it naturally.
Juice helps with the recovery
Thank you
Thing is, as big a fan as I am of Mr Ryan, everyone knows that one of the biggest things that steroids allow you to have is vastly reduced recovery times. Without gear, is it realistic to advise people to do 7x a week training and 4x a week lifting? I very much doubt it. It's not good coaching to apply the same schedule that a juiced athlete has to a natural athlete.
It can be done. Not every day has to be intense live rolling, some days could be an hour of light rolling and an hour of drilling. Or if you really feel beat down you could just drill that day. Either way the consistency of training every day and having your mind on Jiu jitsu at least an hour every day is very beneficial. For lifting it has to be minimalistic when you’re putting so much energy into Jiu jitsu already.
I’m a natural guy who trains exactly the amount you quoted. It sucks and I’m in pain and tired, steroids would be wonderful.
@@WarcusSkates I agree with what you say.
Well i am 26 and i train about morning and evening 6 weeks a day- sometimes even 7 and i have figured out its okay if i manage my hard roll times and also if i do once every two month a longer break of a bout 3 days - works fine for me- i feel like shit but i am sharp and hungry so i keep on
thats beein g said: all the messages we get from instagram and gordon and who ever.... i dont care about them i just do the much training i can do and the long as it feel right - steroids maybe in my 40's - for now i am okay by suffering for my passion
Where do you do your training Bernardo?
Great video! When is the new Garry Tonon instructional coming out?
There are three of best grappling guys in the world
What about bow an arrow choke alot missing in no gee gotta train both its easier to go from gi to know gi it forces you to be more technical and gi would be closer to a street fight people are usually wearing clothes in real life where you can use any grips for possessions or chokes
The boys!
Am I crazy or does Gary Tonon change his look every-time I see him. I honestly have no idea what he looks like at this point
Every single time
Always keep them guessing. My favorite was Colonel Sanders ADCC. But i prefer a combination of that with Hugh Hefner Tonon.
The one training session in PR I saw of Gordo he was with a smaller guy going hard. 🤣
What's with patches missing from his hair?
ringworm?
yea i imagine its alopecia just ask will smith
Can't wait to see Garry vs Tye on the 20th!! Also - what's with Garry's hair? lmao great content as always boys
Might be a type of nervous alopecia
I think that’s what happens when you train 7 days a week…
Alopecia
🙏🏼💜
I would love to train with you guys. 👍
Who better out. Of them two
Garry totally needs a week or 2 off
Look up PAWN THEORY!!!!
The way Jhon “lex Luther” Danaher approaches BJJ is the same!!!!!
INCHES MATTER 🍆
Ossss 🥋
Triple! Hhyyyuugggee honnorr for meeee
Gary's got that Kanye west haircut lol jk don't kill me
someone make a garry tonon GI Jane joke
Dissing people that "only" trains 4x per week... could we come back down to planet earth please 😄
4 days a week is for casuals!
These guys' bodies will be a wreck by 40.
I can vouch for that. I’m 61 and had to quit after 23 years. Chronic injuries ..wasn’t worth it anymore.
It pays off if you leave a legacy behind like Gordon's
@@IvanOrdell how does it pay off exactly?
@@ronaldmoore6619 by being remembered as one of the best, legacy. Don't most professional sport people damage their body to get to certain goals?
@@IvanOrdell so basically it’s an ego thing.
What is wrong with Garry Tonon's hair?