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I've been installing toilets in apartments for 30+ years and the best way is, if the flange has issues, just replace it. With all the newer flanges out there that aren't the old cast iron type, they are easy enough to replace with a little thinking. If you have a low to the floor flange, use a jumbo wax ring, higher flange, use a standard wax ring or adjust your flange accordingly. Figure it out and keep all of these extra parts and hardware out from under your toilet.. I always just use a jumbo wax ring and never have a problem with them(ever), easy and simple to install, seals the gasses and leakage 100% and they will squish down throughout the years to keep everything sealed if you installed is correctly. All these adaptors will always give you more weak points, joints, seams, screws, best to keep it simple like how it was intended for, it'll last over 20+ years. Just my opinion in simple is always better and more complex you make it with all these adaptors and pieces will lead to early failure as you redo the work again in the near future. It's also a bad idea in putting so many screw holes in your floor where moisture will always be from the cold water. Just my opinion in keeping it simple...
I installed a hydroseat toilet flange repair kit. It reduced water flow & had to hold the handle for 3 seconds to make it flush. I also used a waxless donut & it always smelled gas fumes. After I replaced it with a new cast iron flange & wax ring, all is good. The toilet flushes with a tap of the handle & the gas fumes are gone. Do not try to reinvent the wheel, do what is already tried & tested. Agreed.
Yup. 8 years of maintenance here. I’ve come to the same exact conclusion. My property I’m currently at is all pvc. And they’re all breaking at the bolt slot. All the repair kits seem to raise the toilet too high and I refuse to use shims, they never hold a toilet sturdy enough. Got real good at just replacing the whole flange.
I'm not a plumber, but have installed enough toilets over the past 20 years. I've never had a single issue using wax rings. As you said, keep a few different types on hand, and you shouldn't have a problem.
I agree with keeping it simple, wax rings are the standard for 99% of toilet replacements . Never had one leak in my house replaced three toilets 40 years ago when I bought my house.
I've seen a bunch of videos about the Danco Perfect Seal, and this was the most comprehensive and thorough, including featuring the potential removal of the inner black plastic ring, as well as the bolts that come with the All-In-One kit. Thank you for making this video!
I've been a plumber for over 20 years , a simple deep wax seal does the job , sometimes I'll use a Sani seal ring , I'm not trying to invent the wheel and have a call back
Got a bidet toilet and the people that installed it had leaks, it moved around, etc. Decided to fix it myself after having them out a few times and there was a flood underneath it because they rigged up the rubber bit from two different wax ring kits. I say this to explain how thankful I am of your video. I have never installed a toilet with the holes underneath, as yours is in the video, so I took your advice on which ring to get and there's no more leaking. Thanks so much!
This looks like a good system. I've replaced our 3 toilets more than once due to kids using wet wipes. The wax is just so much trouble and even the jumbo rings won't seal properly if there's anything unlevel about the floor or if the ring fails to fully contact the bottom of the toilet. I used wax years ago on 2 and rubber on one. This past weekend, I replaced one of the wax with rubber because the simplicity in the install and future work if necessary. Also seems more reliable in my case.
Just the fact I'll never have to cut the heads of the bolts in the future because of rust is enough reason for me to use this kit for our toilets. We are just coming to the point of installing our new toilet in our guest bathroom renovation. I'm going out tomorrow to pick up this kit. Thanks 😊
@@thoml2353 No, nothing was wrong with my flange. I just changed out the toilet and used this instead of the wax ring. As for drilling into the tile it shouldn't be a problem if the floor has no issues with it.
I know every install situation is different, but this part of the replacement process is what has deterred me from replacing a toilet. Luckily it's not broken and still works, but it's old and uses a ton of water. This has given me a confidence boost for sure, I will be picking up one of those kits.
'and uses a ton of water.' Save water by displacement. Get a 2 liter bottle, fill it up with water so it won't float, and secure it inside the tank so it isn't in the way but takes up room instead of the tank water. You'll save about 2 liters every flush, of course adjust the bottle size etc so there is enough water to still flush well. Not my idea or anything, you simply see it now and then to make an older toilet use less water.
Amazing. I just found out today that I would have to replace my toilet, and was discussing with my son-in-law about if we could do it. We had successfully done a gasket replacement on the tank to bowl connection at his house a few weeks ago. So we believe we can do this one ourselves. This video somewhat confirms that and provides some very helpful things to looks for and parts to use. Thank you, Scott!
@@korndawggy1801 This somehow pop up on my recommendation videos. I am now as old as dirt 47 but I have learned to do this since I was maybe 12-14 or so. But yes this is a simple thing to do but plumbers want to make you think it has to be done by someone with a paper that say they are a plumber so they can charge you about $200
I'm a license Plumber and have used the Danco repair toilet flange kit. I also add a thin slice of wax along with the Danco . So far I've had good results and no call backs.
Great, much needed video, thanks. Amateurs and professionals should be using the new installation kits and avoiding plain wax seals. I’ve seen too many “professional” installations done wrong and have wasted too many hours trying to get a wax seal to do the impossible.
Danco products seem to be very well thought out and engineered. I recently replaced a leaking toilet fill valve with a Danco instead of the common fluid master and I was very pleased.
The solution i have been searching for. Original cast iron flange is one piece attached to the outlet pipe. Rusted and regardless of what wax ring i have tried does not provide a flush, tight fit onto the concrete foundation. These products offered the Fix i had been looking for. Thank You for sharing🤙
This ring is money. Worked great for my application. Had an uneven, lumpy floor near my toilet. Tried setting a new toilet with wax and the seal broke when trying to shim/level it and it leaked. Used this product (mine had regular closet bolts) and it set perfectly and was able to maintain the seal as I rocked and shifted the toilet to level it. Highly recommend.
Wax doesn't bounce back. Compress wax for a perfect seal, but you can't do anything to lift and align the toilet after the wax has been compressed. A properly installed drain and flange will never need anything more than a wax ring to seal it. Rubber seals and all the gizmo kits only have an advantage when the rough-in has been botched.
When I was doing plumbing, I always used a brass nut on the bolts to secure them to the flange . This made it super easy to line up the toilet( even with the tank installed) to the flange for the perfect set .
Very informative video on the subject. I have set many toilets in the past and used standard wax rings with a range of success. Came across your video just as I'm replacing a short toilet to a taller one for my disabled wife. I knew I was going to have to replace some of the flooring as well. I purchased the 3 products you show in your video (from your Amazon links) and am going to install them today once the floor change out is done. With the help of your video, I'm actually looking forward to the end results. My existing flange is in rough shape so I hope the red flange repair part is all it is cracked up to be for a good repair. Thank you for sharing this video.
I like the locator thingies. I had sticks that came with my toiletmaster lift jack but my friend lost them when he was borrowing it. He'd broken his arm and wrist and couldn't use both hands to lift the toilet. I have a bad back so I can't do much lifting. Got the lift jack and it saved us a lot of trouble. The Danco thing looks interesting. I've used Better Than Wax ring for my toilets and haven't had any problems. I think I need a better repair flange-- but I will need to replace/repair the subfloor first. I believe they recommend sitting on the toilet to make sure it flattens the ring out before you secure it to the floor.
This looks like a good product, thanks for sharing. A word of advice: glove up when working around toilet flanges. There can be a multitude of pathogens in that area and if you have any cuts or nicks in the skin of your hands, you could develop an infection.
Best diy video ever, mine was below the floor and had the tilt. I was going to rip everything apart ,and then call a professional when I finally realized that a flooring guy is not a plumber.
Well, the amount of material above the floor is more than the space under the toilet. Im sure the toilet didn't sit on the floor completely without some sort of a gap.
Thank you for showing how this kit works. We have 2 bathrooms with bad flanges that we intend to fix and bought this kit to reinstall the toilets once we replace the flanges. I read the instructions but your video makes it crystal clear how to deal with our situation. Love your videos for you explain things so that anyone can understand. Again, many thanks!
Toilets...bane of my existence. Replacing fill valves over and over, different kinds. Just don't seem to last. Never seen a flange in a good position. Definitely going to try the Danco next. Looks good. At least trying to solve some issues.
My wife wanted one piece - skirted - toilets throughout the house we just built so we went with the fluidmaster rubber seal because its too difficult to put the one piece toilet down without having to pick it up and adjust it over and over because you can’t see your bolts…and its heavy AF. the seals have worked well thus far.
@@garyrohlman6013 I’ve seen professionals use both. I think it comes down to just doing a diligent job. Both seem to work fine when installed correctly.
Speaking from experience I would not use the Danco again. The rubber to toilet seal isn’t 100% air tight and gases can escape between there. Wax to toilet is more air tight. I had to caulk around the toilet to prevent gases. As pressure change it can get under the rubber and toilet interface.
Home owner DIY old guy here. I've set lots of toilets over the years in my own homes and for relatives. I wish some of these awesome products were around thirty some years ago. They would have spared me a lot of grunting and cursing.
Having set countless toilets have always used jumbo wax ring with a deflector cone. Prior to setting with the wax ring I position the bowl and use painters tape to mark locations around the base to better home in on my 'final approach'. Looks like a great DIYer product however.
I believe the deflector cone that he is talking about is a piece of plastic that is part of some wax rings. Sort of a very large diameter funnel it's function is to protect the wax ring and help preserve the seal as long as possible.
there have been times that someone has just really destroyed the area where the toilet was supposed to be attached to the floor or broken the flange so you may have to go the route you just showed us and yes keep it simple but use your brain don't put the toilet back down without making sure all is right and it is not moving side to side or on the floor uneven good info my friend thank you god bless
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I'm about to put a new vinyl tile flooring that is much thicker than the vinyl sheet flooring that came with the house. I have been dreading it because most likely I'll have to take out the old flange and install a new one to match the new floor's thickness. This will let me just use the existing flange. Perfect!
Well done, well explained. I’ve never had an issue with placing a wax seal or having one leak IF the toilet does not move. I think it’s hard to imagine a toilet being solidly mounted and not ever moving when secured with only two bolts just snug in a plastic flange. Eventually the toilet will move, usually with a 200+ user leaning over too far. The solution is to use caulking around the base to the floor interface on the front and sides leaving the back open to indicate a problem in the unusual chance the seal leaks. If the toilet isn’t moving it won’t leak.
These are ok I sold a few when they came out,Alot of the Pros preferred the Fluidmaster Wax less seal or the Old school Fernco that sticks to the bottom,either way if you're not the best at setting using something like this can help.Just rember Chlorine and other harsh chemicals can damage these reusables.But for big people and uneven floors there 👍
Love this product...it would have made my reinstallation (last spring) way simpler! I just saw another content creator use a plastic Solo cup shoved into the hole to capture anything falling in when removing the wax ring.
3rd video I liked tonight. I have a new bathroom and a new toilet that is already set, but I did remove it recently to snake out the drain. When I put it back I lost my seal around the outside. Been wanting to lift it up and scrap the remaining silicon from the floor then set it again. I have that new all in one already. I didnt know it had a wax ring built in but from before it sealed ok enough for me to re silicon it all later. But this was a learning video for me.
I used a rubber ring in one case, but recommendations vary - everyone has a different opinion. The wax rings usually last for a very long time. It is wise to be certain the flange and any brackets are totally secure and solid to assure they can last for several years. Often they can be deteriorated or corroded and the flooring wood can be rotted out in older homes, so be certain to complete the repair so it is secure for the long haul.
Due to a water leak in the bathroom of the house built in the '50s, the tile floor had to be removed to dry out the floor. It was tile on top concrete! Under the concrete the wood flooring / sub flooring was gone around where the toilet connected to the cast iron sewer pipe. No wonder the toilet flange could not be tightened down so that the toilet would not wobble and move around! The flange seal was not the problem.
I tried the rubber gasket one time and didnt like the seal it was giving, just felt like it would be an issue down the road. Maybe I was being paranoid, but a wax ring just feels more secure.
@@rickb.6068 Best to avoid the rubber ring and stay with the thick wax rings. I tried the rubber ring, but it's not very reliable - I tossed it away and went back to the thick wax rings - they have a history of lasting a very long time, so why change to rubber?
As a mechanical engineer and a DIYer I can assure you the less joints and components you have, the less chance of leakage there is. Also keep in mind that you are using multiple products from different suppliers, those products weren't specifically designed or tested to work together as an integrated system and might be great products on their own but perform poorly when working together. However, as a rule of thumb, when it comes to fluids, you would want to minimize the number of joints, parts, seals, flanges, gaskets,... you use because each one of those carries a risk of leakage due to quality issues or poor workmanship and the more you use the higher the risk.
The Danco Perfect Seal is a 50/50 chance. My first experience went well - similar to what you showed. One year later, we had a back flow into the house from a clogged (root) pipe in the yard. Room full of nightmares. The floor installers (replacing damaged flooring) broke the flange (and flange extender) and they used the Oatey Twist-to-Set flange. It fit perfectly and the flange rested on top of the finished floor. We went back to the Perfect Seal. Immediately we noticed something wasn't right - flow was restricted. Pulling the toilet out we noticed the wax ring crushed inside the pipe which pushed the gray horn almost closed - by 50%. Instructions were followed explicitly; no blue adapter and no black horn. As it turned out, the Oatey Twist-Set (for fitting in a 3" pipe) flange is flat across and not beveled like all other flanges connectors - including the Twist-To-Set flange made for 4" pipes (beveled). Our previous flange/extender was beveled and the Perfect seal worked fine. So be warned. If the toilet doesn't set easily (with a little force), there's something wrong. Yank it out! In our case, the normal wax ring was the best solution and everything is a go now.
i always use a couple of 8" pieces of stripped 12 gauge romex wires wrapped around the bolts to guide the toilet. Tied fishing line to the bolts and ran through the bottom of the toilet once, worked great.
I hope the instructions tell us which configuration of this great kit to use. I have rentals and do all my own work. If this works for me as it has for you it will be a huge improvement in my ability to set toilets alone (I'm 65 and it is getting harder to do).
Excellent! Way better explanation than Danco. They fail to mention that you need to remove the black plastic insert BEFORE installation if the flange is higher than the floor. It's mentioned as an afterthought, if the toilet does not sit flat, after installation of the product. At that point you would have already applied pressure on the bowl and squeezed the wax down the sides; removing the product now (to take out the plastic insert) would break that seal.
I bought the Danco then changed my mind after reading the Amazon reviews. I went with a plain wax ring along with jigsawing a plastic base plate to get a quarter-inch height on my 1/2" high flange to make the flange the recommended 1/4" high off the floor. Also, dry fit your toilet and place the shims first to make it level then reinstall the toilet with the seal rings and the shims already in place.
If you have the right diameter of plastic straw, you can cut off a few inches and stick them on the flange bolts. Works like the alignment pins. You could probably hack something up with painter's tape and whatever, too.
Yes, Grab a jumbo straw at your local McDonalds and cut it in half to give yourself two 5 inch locator pins. They fit a standard toilet bolt perfectly.
I've seen this in the store and it looks good. I've tried the Fluidmaster and the Korky products and was not real happy with the them. Trouble with both of them is that if the flange is above the floor, even removing inserts, you don't get them to squish down enough like a wax ring, you get rocking and have to shim all over the place.
There are videos that mention Old houses settle ; but the cast iron doesn’t . And sometimes the old flange has to be removed , so a new one can be positioned at the correct height . I think this is the problem I have , but I might try a wax ring , because of your comment , thanks
@@psychiatry-is-eugenics yes, you can smash a wax ring all the way down to basically nothing so the toilet won't Rock. And don't forget to caulk around the base which locks the toilet to the floor and keeps it from moving a little bit every time you sit on it which over time will cause it to come loose.
@@PlumbNutz just make sure you leave the back of the toilet uncaulked so if there is a leak you know. If caulked 100 percent you never know until its to late and cause a lot more damage.
I just had to remove my toilet that had this kit installed 7 years ago. Everything looked good with no leaks. If the tank had'nt cracked I think it would have been good for many years. I like the new bolting method. That will be what I use on my new toilet.
The problem with the rubber is it hardens and degrades over a few years and leaks. I have not used this particular kit but I have installed rubber rings from Home Depot into all three of the toils on my house and all of them started to leak in about three years. I replaced them with wax rings and it has been more than five years and not a drop of leakage. I do realize that this kit has the wax integrated with it but it seems to me the rubber is still the weak link in the chain.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs I recommend utilising toilet paper instead of towels to cover the open pipe. It does take a slight bit more effort to prepare for catching loose pieces, but you otherwise won't have to _forget_ to remove it.
The Danco all in one kit definitely saved me from what would have been at least a 2 hour headache caused by a really lazy or stupid contractor that built our house.
Another great video. My nephew just bought an older home that has a toilet that is so old and so low, I thought how could anyone 5' 10" even sit, Lol. Would he be able to replace this with a tall and elongated without worrying about replacing the floor? Would the bolts have the same spacing? Thank you.
This does look better than the wax ring with plastic funnel, but I prefer the Fernco adapter with no wax. I have been using these for over 20 years and they are the best and easiest to install. There are others similar on the market, but I haven’t had any of the problems with these, so why change or try others. Another comment….none of the mess as with the wax rings. Thanks…..Jim
This works best on a new toilet. Old ones you have to clean off the old wax meticulously…..very hard to do. I have done it, just takes awhile. Thanks & try it, you won’t go back to the wax ring. Jim
@@jimpie231 considering i cant even find them outside the supply house which treats homeowners like assholes i wont be, the wax ring i use is 1.89. and ive never had an issue.
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Thirty years ago my dad showed me a trick. He took a regular straw from McDonald’s, cut it in half and slipped it over the bolts.
Easy alignments.
I saw a short clip of that trick recently too
@😅😅😅😅Derpherppington
Thanks very much for this tip!
Your Dad was smart and resourceful
Got it.
I've been installing toilets in apartments for 30+ years and the best way is, if the flange has issues, just replace it. With all the newer flanges out there that aren't the old cast iron type, they are easy enough to replace with a little thinking. If you have a low to the floor flange, use a jumbo wax ring, higher flange, use a standard wax ring or adjust your flange accordingly. Figure it out and keep all of these extra parts and hardware out from under your toilet.. I always just use a jumbo wax ring and never have a problem with them(ever), easy and simple to install, seals the gasses and leakage 100% and they will squish down throughout the years to keep everything sealed if you installed is correctly. All these adaptors will always give you more weak points, joints, seams, screws, best to keep it simple like how it was intended for, it'll last over 20+ years. Just my opinion in simple is always better and more complex you make it with all these adaptors and pieces will lead to early failure as you redo the work again in the near future. It's also a bad idea in putting so many screw holes in your floor where moisture will always be from the cold water. Just my opinion in keeping it simple...
I installed a hydroseat toilet flange repair kit. It reduced water flow & had to hold the handle for 3 seconds to make it flush. I also used a waxless donut & it always smelled gas fumes. After I replaced it with a new cast iron flange & wax ring, all is good. The toilet flushes with a tap of the handle & the gas fumes are gone. Do not try to reinvent the wheel, do what is already tried & tested. Agreed.
Yup. 8 years of maintenance here. I’ve come to the same exact conclusion. My property I’m currently at is all pvc. And they’re all breaking at the bolt slot. All the repair kits seem to raise the toilet too high and I refuse to use shims, they never hold a toilet sturdy enough. Got real good at just replacing the whole flange.
I'm not a plumber, but have installed enough toilets over the past 20 years. I've never had a single issue using wax rings. As you said, keep a few different types on hand, and you shouldn't have a problem.
Warm the wax before installing.
The wax can crack if too cold when pressing the toilet on.
I agree with keeping it simple, wax rings are the standard for 99% of toilet replacements . Never had one leak in my house replaced three toilets 40 years ago when I bought my house.
I'm a diy guy. First toilet swap ever. Wood floor messed up from previous wax ring failure, seeping water. This is an EXCELLENT PRODUCT!!!!
Used it over 6yrs now in different jobs and its proven to be a good product, i recommend it!
I've seen a bunch of videos about the Danco Perfect Seal, and this was the most comprehensive and thorough, including featuring the potential removal of the inner black plastic ring, as well as the bolts that come with the All-In-One kit. Thank you for making this video!
Agree
Hear.
Hear..
I've been a plumber for over 20 years , a simple deep wax seal does the job , sometimes I'll use a Sani seal ring , I'm not trying to invent the wheel and have a call back
Yup. He is getting paid to do this. Infomercial.
Got a bidet toilet and the people that installed it had leaks, it moved around, etc. Decided to fix it myself after having them out a few times and there was a flood underneath it because they rigged up the rubber bit from two different wax ring kits.
I say this to explain how thankful I am of your video. I have never installed a toilet with the holes underneath, as yours is in the video, so I took your advice on which ring to get and there's no more leaking. Thanks so much!
This looks like a good system. I've replaced our 3 toilets more than once due to kids using wet wipes. The wax is just so much trouble and even the jumbo rings won't seal properly if there's anything unlevel about the floor or if the ring fails to fully contact the bottom of the toilet. I used wax years ago on 2 and rubber on one. This past weekend, I replaced one of the wax with rubber because the simplicity in the install and future work if necessary. Also seems more reliable in my case.
That kit alone makes the video invaluable. Thanks so much for the link.
Just the fact I'll never have to cut the heads of the bolts in the future because of rust is enough reason for me to use this kit for our toilets. We are just coming to the point of installing our new toilet in our guest bathroom renovation. I'm going out tomorrow to pick up this kit. Thanks 😊
I used one of these a few years ago in my upstairs bathroom and have zero issues with it. It was super easy and clean to install on my tiled floor.
@@thoml2353 No, nothing was wrong with my flange. I just changed out the toilet and used this instead of the wax ring. As for drilling into the tile it shouldn't be a problem if the floor has no issues with it.
Going to home depot to grab 2! Thanks- great video
🤦♀People like you are why I have little faith left in humanity.
Sure you did
@@MrDarren5012 I sure did and it still doesn't leak despite my large butt crapping on it every morning.
I know every install situation is different, but this part of the replacement process is what has deterred me from replacing a toilet. Luckily it's not broken and still works, but it's old and uses a ton of water. This has given me a confidence boost for sure, I will be picking up one of those kits.
Toilets aren’t hard to deal with just do it man it’ll be good 👍🏻
'and uses a ton of water.' Save water by displacement. Get a 2 liter bottle, fill it up with water so it won't float, and secure it inside the tank so it isn't in the way but takes up room instead of the tank water. You'll save about 2 liters every flush, of course adjust the bottle size etc so there is enough water to still flush well.
Not my idea or anything, you simply see it now and then to make an older toilet use less water.
The old school method is to place a brick or 2 in the tank.
Don't use bricks, over time they crumble & can mess up the seals in the tank. Use a rock
Amazing. I just found out today that I would have to replace my toilet, and was discussing with my son-in-law about if we could do it. We had successfully done a gasket replacement on the tank to bowl connection at his house a few weeks ago. So we believe we can do this one ourselves. This video somewhat confirms that and provides some very helpful things to looks for and parts to use. Thank you, Scott!
You really had to discuss if you could do it yourself? It's like the simplest job in the universe. Putting oil in your car is more difficult.
@@MAGAMANyet here you are watching a how to video on it.
@@korndawggy1801 This somehow pop up on my recommendation videos. I am now as old as dirt 47 but I have learned to do this since I was maybe 12-14 or so. But yes this is a simple thing to do but plumbers want to make you think it has to be done by someone with a paper that say they are a plumber so they can charge you about $200
I'm a license Plumber and have used the Danco repair toilet flange kit. I also add a thin slice of wax along with the Danco . So far I've had good results and no call backs.
When you say thin slice of wax... do you just divide a normal wax ring into parts, or am I missing something obvious?
Great, much needed video, thanks. Amateurs and professionals should be using the new installation kits and avoiding plain wax seals. I’ve seen too many “professional” installations done wrong and have wasted too many hours trying to get a wax seal to do the impossible.
As a DIY PERSON YOUR toilet install advice was excellent. 😊
Terrible 50 year plumber Just do it right
Danco products seem to be very well thought out and engineered. I recently replaced a leaking toilet fill valve with a Danco instead of the common fluid master and I was very pleased.
I bought 3 sets of "danco" cartridges for Moen faucets. I had to go back and replace one of each set due to leak. Most of their stuff is junk!
The solution i have been searching for. Original cast iron flange is one piece attached to the outlet pipe. Rusted and regardless of what wax ring i have tried does not provide a flush, tight fit onto the concrete foundation. These products offered the Fix i had been looking for. Thank You for sharing🤙
This ring is money. Worked great for my application. Had an uneven, lumpy floor near my toilet. Tried setting a new toilet with wax and the seal broke when trying to shim/level it and it leaked. Used this product (mine had regular closet bolts) and it set perfectly and was able to maintain the seal as I rocked and shifted the toilet to level it. Highly recommend.
Wax doesn't bounce back. Compress wax for a perfect seal, but you can't do anything to lift and align the toilet after the wax has been compressed. A properly installed drain and flange will never need anything more than a wax ring to seal it. Rubber seals and all the gizmo kits only have an advantage when the rough-in has been botched.
When I was doing plumbing, I always used a brass nut on the bolts to secure them to the flange . This made it super easy to line up the toilet( even with the tank installed) to the flange for the perfect set .
sure the good kits came that way . ever fix a case? or set one?
@@dollyhadbraces9361 Case has odd tank to bowl connection
Very informative video on the subject. I have set many toilets in the past and used standard wax rings with a range of success. Came across your video just as I'm replacing a short toilet to a taller one for my disabled wife. I knew I was going to have to replace some of the flooring as well. I purchased the 3 products you show in your video (from your Amazon links) and am going to install them today once the floor change out is done. With the help of your video, I'm actually looking forward to the end results. My existing flange is in rough shape so I hope the red flange repair part is all it is cracked up to be for a good repair. Thank you for sharing this video.
I like the locator thingies. I had sticks that came with my toiletmaster lift jack but my friend lost them when he was borrowing it. He'd broken his arm and wrist and couldn't use both hands to lift the toilet. I have a bad back so I can't do much lifting. Got the lift jack and it saved us a lot of trouble. The Danco thing looks interesting. I've used Better Than Wax ring for my toilets and haven't had any problems. I think I need a better repair flange-- but I will need to replace/repair the subfloor first.
I believe they recommend sitting on the toilet to make sure it flattens the ring out before you secure it to the floor.
I've been using the seals with the neoprene ring instead of the wax ring for years and like them much more than any wax ring.
This looks like a good product, thanks for sharing. A word of advice: glove up when working around toilet flanges. There can be a multitude of pathogens in that area and if you have any cuts or nicks in the skin of your hands, you could develop an infection.
It is an excellent product and has saved me tons of time and frustration. Best $10.00-$20.00 you can spend when working on this project.
Best diy video ever, mine was below the floor and had the tilt. I was going to rip everything apart ,and then call a professional when I finally realized that a flooring guy is not a plumber.
I'm a plumber in the field for 20+ years while these are not bad designs nothing beats a standard wax ring
Looks like a convoluted solution for a problem that doesn’t exist
Well, the amount of material above the floor is more than the space under the toilet. Im sure the toilet didn't sit on the floor completely without some sort of a gap.
Absolutely agree. The key is to start with a good flange and then a properly centered and seated wax ring.
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lol, that’s my point, that contraption is so damn tall the toilet won’t even hit the floor, this is a troll video
@@axminsterz4151 Paying for new components that go straight into the trash.
Thanks!
Good luck. Tried rubber once (not sure if this one) backup leaks are much easier. Never again. Always used the thick wax ring.
I’ve used this and it’s worked perfectly for me. No issue with gasses as someone mentioned
Thank you for showing how this kit works. We have 2 bathrooms with bad flanges that we intend to fix and bought this kit to reinstall the toilets once we replace the flanges. I read the instructions but your video makes it crystal clear how to deal with our situation. Love your videos for you explain things so that anyone can understand. Again, many thanks!
bare handed, what a trooper.. lol
If you look ole boy has doody all over his hands :-D
I would lick my fingers like im eating hot cheetos lmaoo
Parents really need to let their "babies" get dirty more. We have way too many people afraid to touch anything.
Looks like brand new flooring and built
A pooper trooper.
Toilets...bane of my existence. Replacing fill valves over and over, different kinds. Just don't seem to last. Never seen a flange in a good position. Definitely going to try the Danco next. Looks good. At least trying to solve some issues.
That's EXACTLY how they installed JB and KH! Amazing, just amazing, Thank you.
My wife wanted one piece - skirted - toilets throughout the house we just built so we went with the fluidmaster rubber seal because its too difficult to put the one piece toilet down without having to pick it up and adjust it over and over because you can’t see your bolts…and its heavy AF. the seals have worked well thus far.
USE WHAT THE PROFESSIONALS USE A PROVEN WAX RING...
@@garyrohlman6013 I’ve seen professionals use both. I think it comes down to just doing a diligent job. Both seem to work fine when installed correctly.
Speaking from experience I would not use the Danco again. The rubber to toilet seal isn’t 100% air tight and gases can escape between there. Wax to toilet is more air tight. I had to caulk around the toilet to prevent gases. As pressure change it can get under the rubber and toilet interface.
Thanks for the feedback 👍
Beat me to it. I second what Joe said. Wax rings are definitely the way to go.
But this has a wax ring it just has rubber on top too.
How do you know that gases escape from the danco product?
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@@GzoGuitarWz 3:56 he was fooled
Way better explanation than the video Danco offers on UA-cam! Great job sir…
Home owner DIY old guy here. I've set lots of toilets over the years in my own homes and for relatives. I wish some of these awesome products were around thirty some years ago. They would have spared me a lot of grunting and cursing.
Highly useful for older plumbing 🙏
I used these when remodeling two bathrooms and they were super easy to use and have had no issues. Great video!
Awesome. Nice Video. The guy who got the patten on that sure deserves his royalties.
Just used this Danco installation kit and it ROCKED! The extendable bolting system alone was brilliant, I'm never using a wax ring again
Using the expression "and it rocked", is not a good description for these circumstances 😮
Having set countless toilets have always used jumbo wax ring with a deflector cone. Prior to setting with the wax ring I position the bowl and use painters tape to mark locations around the base to better home in on my 'final approach'. Looks like a great DIYer product however.
Great tip and I appreciate the feedback 👍
I believe you’re talking about “the horn “
I believe the deflector cone that he is talking about is a piece of plastic that is part of some wax rings. Sort of a very large diameter funnel it's function is to protect the wax ring and help preserve the seal as long as possible.
there have been times that someone has just really destroyed the area where the toilet was supposed to be attached to the floor or broken the flange so you may have to go the route you just showed us and yes keep it simple but use your brain don't put the toilet back down without making sure all is right and it is not moving side to side or on the floor uneven good info my friend thank you god bless
I have had rental properties for the last 45 years. These videos are so good.
Thanks. I just did the 4th repair like this on my guest bathroom toilet where the flange is 3/8" above the floor. Kits like these help a whole lot.
Fourth repair on the same toilet? You're doing something wrong man
I installed a new toilet in my bathroom remodel about a year ago and used this product !! it was Awesome.
Thank you very much. This will make it alot easier for this 77 yr old man.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I'm about to put a new vinyl tile flooring that is much thicker than the vinyl sheet flooring that came with the house. I have been dreading it because most likely I'll have to take out the old flange and install a new one to match the new floor's thickness. This will let me just use the existing flange. Perfect!
Thanks, I’ve watched several videos to install this and by far yours is the most informative.
Well done, well explained. I’ve never had an issue with placing a wax seal or having one leak IF the toilet does not move. I think it’s hard to imagine a toilet being solidly mounted and not ever moving when secured with only two bolts just snug in a plastic flange. Eventually the toilet will move, usually with a 200+ user leaning over too far. The solution is to use caulking around the base to the floor interface on the front and sides leaving the back open to indicate a problem in the unusual chance the seal leaks. If the toilet isn’t moving it won’t leak.
I see no need for caulking, and have never caulked a toilet I've installed, on wood, tile, vinyl, composite, etc. No issues
pulled one of those out with an auger couple months ago.
I agree, this product has been working very well for years now. I haven't had any problems with it and it's very easy to work with.
I used these 5 years ago and they work great no more messy wax and can be reused
These are ok I sold a few when they came out,Alot of the Pros preferred the Fluidmaster Wax less seal or the Old school Fernco that sticks to the bottom,either way if you're not the best at setting using something like this can help.Just rember Chlorine and other harsh chemicals can damage these reusables.But for big people and uneven floors there 👍
Love this product...it would have made my reinstallation (last spring) way simpler!
I just saw another content creator use a plastic Solo cup shoved into the hole to capture anything falling in when removing the wax ring.
3rd video I liked tonight. I have a new bathroom and a new toilet that is already set, but I did remove it recently to snake out the drain. When I put it back I lost my seal around the outside. Been wanting to lift it up and scrap the remaining silicon from the floor then set it again. I have that new all in one already. I didnt know it had a wax ring built in but from before it sealed ok enough for me to re silicon it all later. But this was a learning video for me.
I used a rubber ring in one case, but recommendations vary - everyone has a different opinion. The wax rings usually last for a very long time. It is wise to be certain the flange and any brackets are totally secure and solid to assure they can last for several years. Often they can be deteriorated or corroded and the flooring wood can be rotted out in older homes, so be certain to complete the repair so it is secure for the long haul.
Due to a water leak in the bathroom of the house built in the '50s, the tile floor had to be removed to dry out the floor. It was tile on top concrete! Under the concrete the wood flooring / sub flooring was gone around where the toilet connected to the cast iron sewer pipe. No wonder the toilet flange could not be tightened down so that the toilet would not wobble and move around! The flange seal was not the problem.
@@donsmith9478 Did you need to do anything about the wood flooring damage?
I tried the rubber gasket one time and didnt like the seal it was giving, just felt like it would be an issue down the road. Maybe I was being paranoid, but a wax ring just feels more secure.
So true, I replaced the flange and some subfloor before I used the rubber ring.
@@rickb.6068 Best to avoid the rubber ring and stay with the thick wax rings. I tried the rubber ring, but it's not very reliable - I tossed it away and went back to the thick wax rings - they have a history of lasting a very long time, so why change to rubber?
As a mechanical engineer and a DIYer I can assure you the less joints and components you have, the less chance of leakage there is. Also keep in mind that you are using multiple products from different suppliers, those products weren't specifically designed or tested to work together as an integrated system and might be great products on their own but perform poorly when working together. However, as a rule of thumb, when it comes to fluids, you would want to minimize the number of joints, parts, seals, flanges, gaskets,... you use because each one of those carries a risk of leakage due to quality issues or poor workmanship and the more you use the higher the risk.
The Danco Perfect Seal is a 50/50 chance. My first experience went well - similar to what you showed. One year later, we had a back flow into the house from a clogged (root) pipe in the yard. Room full of nightmares. The floor installers (replacing damaged flooring) broke the flange (and flange extender) and they used the Oatey Twist-to-Set flange. It fit perfectly and the flange rested on top of the finished floor. We went back to the Perfect Seal. Immediately we noticed something wasn't right - flow was restricted. Pulling the toilet out we noticed the wax ring crushed inside the pipe which pushed the gray horn almost closed - by 50%. Instructions were followed explicitly; no blue adapter and no black horn. As it turned out, the Oatey Twist-Set (for fitting in a 3" pipe) flange is flat across and not beveled like all other flanges connectors - including the Twist-To-Set flange made for 4" pipes (beveled). Our previous flange/extender was beveled and the Perfect seal worked fine. So be warned. If the toilet doesn't set easily (with a little force), there's something wrong. Yank it out! In our case, the normal wax ring was the best solution and everything is a go now.
The flanges in my house are high. I will try this without the spacer. I love the way it holds the bolts in place.
Danco for the win
Great tips and products. Looks so much easier. Thanks for sharing
I prefer the wax ring with the integral funnel. They can be stacked.😉👍🏼👍🏼
i always use a couple of 8" pieces of stripped 12 gauge romex wires wrapped around the bolts to guide the toilet. Tied fishing line to the bolts and ran through the bottom of the toilet once, worked great.
Cut one McDonald's soda straw in half and place one over each mounting bolt...perfect fit, to make alignment easy.
THIS IS YOUR GREATIST VIDEO YET. THANK YOU. SAVED ME A LOT OF TIME.
I used this product when we installed a toilet in our powder room. 🇨🇦💝👍
I hope the instructions tell us which configuration of this great kit to use. I have rentals and do all my own work. If this works for me as it has for you it will be a huge improvement in my ability to set toilets alone (I'm 65 and it is getting harder to do).
Excellent! Way better explanation than Danco. They fail to mention that you need to remove the black plastic insert BEFORE installation if the flange is higher than the floor. It's mentioned as an afterthought, if the toilet does not sit flat, after installation of the product. At that point you would have already applied pressure on the bowl and squeezed the wax down the sides; removing the product now (to take out the plastic insert) would break that seal.
Hacksaw Jimmy taught me this trick 37 years ago. Thanks Jimmy!
Way to go. I hated the wax ring. I silicone the caps you be surprised of what can build up under them. Many new life forms.
I bought the Danco then changed my mind after reading the Amazon reviews. I went with a plain wax ring along with jigsawing a plastic base plate to get a quarter-inch height on my 1/2" high flange to make the flange the recommended 1/4" high off the floor. Also, dry fit your toilet and place the shims first to make it level then reinstall the toilet with the seal rings and the shims already in place.
If you have the right diameter of plastic straw, you can cut off a few inches and stick them on the flange bolts. Works like the alignment pins. You could probably hack something up with painter's tape and whatever, too.
Yes, Grab a jumbo straw at your local McDonalds and cut it in half to give yourself two 5 inch locator pins. They fit a standard toilet bolt perfectly.
I've seen this in the store and it looks good. I've tried the Fluidmaster and the Korky products and was not real happy with the them. Trouble with both of them is that if the flange is above the floor, even removing inserts, you don't get them to squish down enough like a wax ring, you get rocking and have to shim all over the place.
There are videos that mention Old houses settle ; but the cast iron doesn’t . And sometimes the old flange has to be removed , so a new one can be positioned at the correct height . I think this is the problem I have , but I might try a wax ring , because of your comment , thanks
@@psychiatry-is-eugenics yes, you can smash a wax ring all the way down to basically nothing so the toilet won't Rock. And don't forget to caulk around the base which locks the toilet to the floor and keeps it from moving a little bit every time you sit on it which over time will cause it to come loose.
@@PlumbNutz just make sure you leave the back of the toilet uncaulked so if there is a leak you know. If caulked 100 percent you never know until its to late and cause a lot more damage.
@@PlumbNutz I caulk around the sides and front, people (men and women I found out) piddle down the front of the toilet, yuck.
I just had to remove my toilet that had this kit installed 7 years ago. Everything looked good with no leaks. If the tank had'nt cracked I think it would have been good for many years. I like the new bolting method. That will be what I use on my new toilet.
Unusual to have space behind the toilet. Usually its back to the wall. Good job explaining the rest.
The problem with the rubber is it hardens and degrades over a few years and leaks. I have not used this particular kit but I have installed rubber rings from Home Depot into all three of the toils on my house and all of them started to leak in about three years. I replaced them with wax rings and it has been more than five years and not a drop of leakage. I do realize that this kit has the wax integrated with it but it seems to me the rubber is still the weak link in the chain.
Bravo........it has alwise amused me that after all these years we are still using ceramic toilet...bolting to glass....cheers.
never used a kit like this but done it the old way plenty of times. even for a veteran this kit looks like a great investment.
Thank you and I love your How To Install A Toilet Bowl !!!
I used those a couple of years ago in a super-tight space and they were great!!
I can see this being the item to buy if you have a older or unusual install. Other than that a plain wax seal is fine.
Yeah, I lean this way as I do have several rental properties which are older and anything but “usual installs.” 😂
Until you mess up and have to pull the toilet off, ruining the beeswax seal.
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I recommend utilising toilet paper instead of towels to cover the open pipe. It does take a slight bit more effort to prepare for catching loose pieces, but you otherwise won't have to _forget_ to remove it.
THANKS SCOTT, VERY GOOD ADVICE…things that weren’t available in my past, but are NOW 😎🤗💚💚💚
I've used the "better than wax" seal with great results.
Thank you for the clear, concise presentation both in audio and visual content. So well put together.
The Danco all in one kit definitely saved me from what would have been at least a 2 hour headache caused by a really lazy or stupid contractor that built our house.
Very nice. There have been many improvements in this area over the years.
Thanks for video.
The kit work pretty good. I needed to buy extra 1/4" bolts, by the way, since the supplied bolts were too short.
Another great video. My nephew just bought an older home that has a toilet that is so old and so low, I thought how could anyone 5' 10" even sit, Lol. Would he be able to replace this with a tall and elongated without worrying about replacing the floor? Would the bolts have the same spacing? Thank you.
As usual, some of the BEST information available online. Thank you!
Looks like a great product. I’ll definitely look for this the next time I do a toilet. It will be worth the extra money to not have a problem.
Extra thick wax ring, add a standard ring if needed; flange shim plate if needed; two-piece flange repair kit if needed, never a problem.
This does look better than the wax ring with plastic funnel, but I prefer the Fernco adapter with no wax. I have been using these for over 20 years and they are the best and easiest to install. There are others similar on the market, but I haven’t had any of the problems with these, so why change or try others. Another comment….none of the mess as with the wax rings. Thanks…..Jim
Hey Jim, thanks for the feedback!
i remember once as a kid seeing a plumber try that. leaked and he had to come back...
This works best on a new toilet. Old ones you have to clean off the old wax meticulously…..very hard to do. I have done it, just takes awhile. Thanks & try it, you won’t go back to the wax ring. Jim
@@jimpie231 considering i cant even find them outside the supply house which treats homeowners like assholes i wont be, the wax ring i use is 1.89. and ive never had an issue.
@@DabblelyDiddly You must live in Russellville Arkansas. The local plumbing supply place is full of assholes!.
I used double wax before. I have seen the Danco but never paid attention to it. It is a great idea to use. Thank you for sharing
Very cool...I will definitely use that DANCO kit the next time I remove and reinstall a toilet.
Glad I saw this video. I am just getting ready for a toilet change and will use this.
Best of luck with the toilet swap!
Appreciate the info, I have a toilet that needs resetting so this is in my near future. I added the kit to my Amazon cart with your link, thanks 👍🏻
Thank buddy 👍
Great video tutorial.
All in one to help you get the best seat in the house ready.
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Just tried a foam rubber ring. Seems to be easier and way less messy if there is a next time. I have kids so that’s a good probability.