Tony Cottee RANTS On The Unfair Treatment Of David Moyes At West Ham! 😠
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- West Ham United take on Leverkusen tonight in the Europa League. talkSPORT's Alan Brazil and Ally McCoist discuss alongside Tony Cottee.
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People wouldn’t have believed Villa could challenge for top 4 before they got Emery. Just because Moyes has done well doesn’t mean West Ham can’t do better, especially with the talent they have in that team.
Villa owners are bankrolling maximum losses. Totally different ownership model.
Also, how is it to say
Villa will do like wise
next season.
Absolutely no club in World Football has a
God gives the right to be successful. football comes in cycles, and no one is successful forever & no one is unsuccessful for ever ether.
West Ham is being run more as a business with
a tight spending cap, Aston Villa, are not.
But Aston Villa has
had that type of ownership model under
Dug Ellis in years gone past way past.
It's good to see
Villa is doing well, a massive club that has under achieved since the 80s if we are honest about it.
Moyes has done well with
West Ham, but every club has a class ceiling in terms of what is sustainable long-term in terms of success & from
the outside, I would say
West Ham achieved that last season.
The question is, what do
West Ham fans want
from David Moyes, if it's a different style of football, be very careful what you wish for you just might get your wish but it might not be the answer you thought you were looking for.
Now look at
Birmingham City
would West Ham fans traid places with them.
You could say would they trade places with
Aston Villa, but what I would say to that is how long before Emery is looking to move on for bigger wages he has done so in the past & how is to say the next manger in to Villa Park is the right on he may or may not be.
@@alanfox691Real Madrid and Barcelona..... 'hold my beer' 😊
Tell me what other club in top 7 would take Moyes as a manager? I'm happy for Villa, fair play. Need to see more 'borderline line' teams challenging, surely the makes the Premier League more competitive.
@@phil7825
Moyes won't get a better job than West Ham & all these so called 'football experts' know it.
Moyes HAS spent half A BILLION! We have the smallest and one of the oldest squads in the league.
I don’t think any West Ham fans are unhappy with what Moyes has achieved for us. It’s been an amazing 3/4 years it really has. I’m Moyes out and my reason for that along with thousands of other WHam fans is the missed opportunities to strengthen. We’ve had several moments in the last 2 years where we had to strengthen and Moyes neglected these moments so badly. 2 seasons in a row he didn’t sign a striker and my belief is we’ve under achieved for those reasons. It’s a shame because he could’ve been a legend but his reluctance to be positive and attack teams is his downfall. As a football club, when you’re flying you need to take advantage of your position. many feel Moyes didn’t. You have to strike when you get these opportunities and it’;s sad to say. But we could be doing better. Both in league position and style of football. Which in turn leads to cohesion in the fan base.
😂😂😂
100% he brought in Phillips and let Benny and Pablo go
Do managers buy the players nowadays
Could be doing worst too, this is your most successful period? Constant Europe and a trophy?
@@JackDray-iu2kd Moyes does. It’s in his contract that he has final say. So yeah, this one does.
Is tc pissed 4 year contract
Tony let’s look at the stats 4th worst goals against, used less Subs than any other team , conceded more penalties
Not to mention at one stage a month or so ago, we had the 5th or 6th lowest average possession stats for any team in Europe's top 5 leagues!
conceded pens coz you been screwed by VAR
Coming from the era he does I’m surprised Cottee is pro Moyes knowing of the football we enjoyed back then.
Pundits like Tony likes to create drama so he can keep his job, if you have seen the hammers games for the last two years you definitely want Moyes gone
And don’t forget West Ham are European Champions!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂⚪️Oh and won TheWorld. Up in 66😂😂😂😂😂😂
I would hardly call that a rant 🤔😎⚒⚒
I'm not a West Ham fan, but what on Earth do those fans want?? Current holders of a European trophy, 7th in the Premier League and Quarter Final's of the Europa League in April!! Nice new stadium in the middle of London built by the tax payers. How spoilt and entitled can you lot be?? These are the best seasons that a lot of West Ham fans will have seen in decades and you're all moaning about "style of play"??? Madness!! I'd gladly take scraping a 1-0 win with 30% possession every week for 3 points and some silverware!
Ken oath, agree with you 💯, ungrateful delusional fan base
We want to enjoy supporting our team and feel excited on matchdays, things that will never happen as long as Moyes is in charge! Can't name a single football club desperate to appoint him as their next manager .. perhaps, if he really is as great as all you Moyes lovers seem to think he is, he might get the Liverpool job?
@@willc6434 Delusional? Ungrateful? What team do you support? 43 years without a trophy but we still turned up in our thousands home and away week in week out... our fanbase is incredibly loyal to the club, a club who's owners have screwed us over and over. The ECL trophy should have been the start of a new dawn for us but Moyes' stubborness and refusal to give our talented youngsters any real game time has probably put an end to that. The sooner he goes the better.
Could have ended it after the first 6 words - no-one cares about what opposition fans think.
@@jamesgunn7but we can still make a 100% accurate judgement that West Ham fans calling for the greatest manager they’ve had in decades to be sacked are ungrateful whiners
David Moyes is the best manager West Ham have ever had! Nobody comes close!!
No way does Moyes get another 4 yrs ..Moyesball is god Awful
Yes we are 7th, Yes we are in the Europa league quarter final but we have so much talent and it’s just wasted by this draining defensive football even though are biggest strength is our attack.
£500m spent on players and we have got the oldest and smallest squad in the Prem League along with a completely divided fan base because way too many of them can't stand this negative Moyesball ... Moyes OUT ... 100%
🤡
£500 on who.....are they really worth it !!? ....comon
your team is 70% championship stock....Kudus could turn into Wilfred boney in a second....Paqcuetta is frustrating
there is no 'west ham way' ....his style of football is fine and 'old fashioned' is a just a false reason to sack you're most successful manager
@@italianplastic23 Wow ... someone has been kicked in the head by a horse 🤣How sad is your life to defend that rubbish ... bless
‘If’ West Ham do this, ‘If’ Moyes does that. What ‘if’ we finish 10th in the league without European football? What then? It’s all well and good thinking of hypotheticals. Look at the end of the season. TalkSport are so anti-West Ham fans, and so pro Moyes it’s a joke
youre kidding right...they doing there best to help get him sacked...bangin on bout some false narrative that west ham are supposed to play a certain brand of football...lol since when....they should be impartial...its not their job to remove a successful manager while trying to navigate europe and a top 7 finish ( again )
you west ham fans have been horrible.....its the worst treatment of a manager ive ever seen....you have ruined you're own golden era.
personally 80% of all football is boring now ...especially possession based....so which brand of foreign football would you like them to play when Moyes goes ?
Tony Cottee is entitled to his opinion but I hate watching Moyes ball and can't wait until he is gone.
Can't wait to watch West Ham fighting relegation a few years after.
Ah yes, another West ham fan that misses the relegation battles and the Thursday nights football free 🤡
Championship football will be on the calendar when he leaves
@gazagovana3291 Sorry, agree to disagree, I've been watching us play for over 5 decades and we played a lot better with lesser players.
I’d rather you left mate
Cottee didnt look at the stats did he 🤣 Just looked at the league position and still in Europe.... Lucky, lucky Moyes!
He's already spent half a billion Tony! Time for a change
Who on who's he spent half a billion on he sold rice from 100 million
@@jordancostello3385 What?
@@ian0143k I think what jordan is saying is name the players that he spent that money on without recouping X amount of money in return. Pretty obvious & you won't be able to
Cottee needs to open his ears when he’s with the fans
Have some respect for a west ham legend.
Acquire a striker worthy of the name and then promote academy players into the first team.
The Academy players aren't good enough. Callum Marshall has been sent back from West Brom in Championship because he is not championship level. Less than 3% of Academy players make the grade in the premiership. That's 97% who are just not good enough unfortunately.
@@MilesThorneThe club needed a striker 4 years ago, in all that time a younger deputy suited to DM's style of play has apparently been too much of an ask.
A 3% success rate from a hundred youths equates to one every three years, assuming ten new inductees are admitted into the academy every year for a decade......
One example does not prove the rule, and West Brom's financial imperative in returning to the PL is not directly correlated to Marshalls abilities or potential, a rational counter would be, he will produce better results playing alongside better players.
COYI
Let's get behind the team! COYI!!!!! ⚒
just to think, TC wouldnt get a game under Moyes and yet he backs him
NOT IGNORE HALF THE SQUAD! DEVELOP PLAYERS! PLAY UR BEST PLAYERS IN THEIR POSITION. Have a plan B
Let's have it right Tony Cottee. You are an old Evertonian. Moyes is an old Evertonian. Everton was the only club that had good things to say about Moyes. Moyes has managed about 1400 games with 6 different clubs and the only Trophy he has won was the Charity Shield. I don't count the ECL because if it had gone to extra time, we were done and Fiorentina looked stronger. Paqueta and Bowen won the ECL - not Moyes. Look at how he trashed Sunderland. We will not qualify for 7th place, Chelsea will. He has to go.
Another one that has made the mistake and attributed West Ham's recent success to the man, David Moyes, rather than attributing it to the much stronger correlation between the unprecedented levels of investment(500M over 4 seasons) and their current situation.
Who did he spend 500 million on
As a west ham lad, TC has an opinion but playing to the audience. Awful football, shocking general management and a narcissist....get out ASAP please
Definitely moyes out! I think we've won a trophy inspite of moyes & not because of his mythical tactical genius!
Did Alan Brazil ask which team is the favourite?
It's definitely not the team who are 41 games unbeaten in all competitions and16 points above Bayern in the league.
Its definitely the team that has only won 3 league games in 2024.
I see Haller scored last nite
Look how well Scamacca did tonight, as well.
Tony Cottee my hero! Still got the keyring he gave me. West Ham fans are passionate but have far too high expectations. They think they should be up there with the Liverpools, Arsenal's etc. Its a bit mental and arrogant. They won't accept they are looked upon as a Leicester, West Brom or Forest type of team. All very good outfits. The modern game demands results. However, even winning at Wolves they were fuming. I mean..wtf?
Imagine what a manager who wasn't as negative as moyes could do with these players... Moyes's criticism is based on performance...not his results. He wouldn't be getting as much if we weren't loosing games by 3,4,5 goals or scrapping undeserved wins or having a team crumble by bad game management and decisions
nothing coz they aint that special and thats why he has to play negative .....and no one will get more out of Bowen ?
@@italianplastic23 typical melt reply...
It's not just Moyes's style of play that's the problem it's the complete arrogance & stubbornness of the man that's also the problem. In his press conference today he kept saying 'me' the whole time & when something goes wrong it's always 'we.' Moyes is nasty & arrogant & will never take the blame for anything. I would at least change my view if he owned up & learned from his mistakes but he never does. He thinks he is right about everything the whole time when he isn't.
Its two things: Playing bottom half teams at home and playing negative football. No one minds defensive/counter attack to play the top teams. And secondly, its the 'why is this all we can be?' argument. The promise of leaving Upton Park was to really kick on and the attitude is where can we go from here, not 'arent we fortunate to be here'. The owners are not helping...
change your ownership before you change the manager, easy target
@@abdiaha7022 I agree...easier said than done tho'
Why do these pundits think that Moyes is some kind of saviour and no one else can do the job like he can....honestly baffling
Says something when he is not linked with Everton when they need to survive relegation. Why doesn’t no other Premiership club want him?
Well I suppose he could set us up to at least get into the opponents half, rather than have 20% possesion and 1 shot at goal in 90 minutes
He’s had more money and backing than any other manager in our history. He’s doing the bare minimum to stay in the job. He burns bridges with half the players and destroys their value. The football is also disgusting
Behave Cottee .!!!
Style of football is woeful - how can a club develop with 20 % possession, no youth , depleted squad ! No disrespect to Moyes I’m grateful but time for a change
The second goal killed us. Now we have to play the replay without Paqueta, Emerson, Bowen and Mavropanos. Forget about it, it's over.
Loved Cottee as a player but the irony is he would never get a game under Moyes., By his own admission his work rate was poor and as a 5'8 goal scorer Moyes would never put him in!!
Your telling me all those attacking players sit in that dressing room and Moyes says defend for 90 mins and they all jump up and down and do the conga, no wonder Paqueta is frustrated .
Tony the Dinosaur commenting on Moyes another Dinosaur. Cottee always out for the Green paper, on social media he points in a different direction. COYI
The home football is awful
Why do we have to put 11 me behind the ball against Burnley etc
He will never give any youth a chance
Shut up Tony. If you watched more than two games a season it would be obvious.
What more can he do? Get battered by Palace 5-2, let's see his next party trick
Cottee of all people
He’s played under a proper manager
Can’t believe what he’s said
I agree his been brilliant, west ham fans just don’t know there place.
Moyes done an amazing job. Last time he went they soon asked him bacj
Tony fighting for his life to maintain that West Ham pay packet 😂
The ultimate thing would be to leave!!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
He’s spent 450 million!!! He’s not done it on a shoe string lol
What more can he do?? Play attacking football!!
IT DOESN'T MATTER HE NEEDS TO GO.
Moyes out
TC legend ⚒️⚒️⚒️
The 'West Ham Way' thing is a myth
The West Ham way before Moyes was relegation battles
😴😴😴
Lots of embarrassing entitled spoilt west ham fans these days.
Listening to them moan and whine every year is more boring than moyes style of play.
Sometimes west ham are brilliant to watch and sometimes dreadful. It's part of football.
is it ? name another team in the prem with their spending who are that inconsistent, with a squad that small and old, you can't
@@LordSeth-hf8ew 😴
"I hope that before I die, someone can explain the 'West Ham way'. What is it? They last won a trophy in 1980, the FA Cup.”
"I never played against any West Ham team that played football I was afraid of” - Sir Alex Ferguson
If I was David Moyes I’d want the fans criticising me to be sacked they deserve to leave the club a lot more than he does😂
It's West Ham what do you expect. They cheered when Frank Lampard broke his leg playing for them. I was there at SJP when their away support sang "you should have died 3 years ago" to Glen Roeder after he had a brain haemorrhage when he managed their relegation campaign. They have some truly vile fans and always have the daggers out
Every club has fans that aren’t perfect, don’t fool yourself thinking yours are. Are you that blinkered or just a bit biased and salty.
@@geoffmccarthy7785 not perfect? I watched thousands of West Ham fans chant they were gutted their former captain didn't die.
Never understood any fan blasting the manager in the modern game where players play for owners/clubs now not managers as they did in say the Clough era. I'm sure Moyes went to ask if they could buy Harry Kane (Ha Ha said the board), but PSR (and club) budgeting is restrictive now, and Moyes has to choose on a budget. Even then I bet some players may arrive he hasn't asked for. I think he's done a fantastic job, and as a Forest fan who has had to watch a great manager in Cooper go to be replaced by another great manager in Nuno, with the same players we have had the same results outcome given differing player losses through the season. The West Ham squad is punching a little above its weight on paper in my view, as Moyes gets a fine tune most weeks out of those players. Let us not forget that 42 of the last 44 top 4 positions were taken by the big 6 clubs, and in half of those seasons 5 of the big six filled all of the top 5 positions. Everyone else is fighting for the 6th spot and WHU are 7th. I ask you, why are fans so blinded by their belief that this big 6 club can be broken down so easily. With PSR budgeting restrictions it's only going to be harder to break in. Now look at the positions of the big 6 this season, and ask what the West Ham fans are really complaining for. Is my point made? Moyes is one of the best Managers outside of the big 6 if you look closer. Accept the situation, see clearly, and enjoy the ride your club takes you on. Be well everyone.
Would u want moyes over Cooper or Nuno. I don’t think your find many West Ham fans who would say he ain’t done a fantastic job. 4:50 Cooper done a fantastic job for you lot but still got moved on that as outsiders most thought was mad. We are millions miles ahead of you as a club and team now and should have ambition and believe we can challenge top 4. Tottenham and villa ain’t much better than us and the issue ain’t league position or results it goes a lot deeper. Like most it’s easy to have a opinion from the outside. Bowen, Paqueta, kudos and Alvarez walk in any team out of top 3 and u could argue they would get in them.
@@SparkyTom123 I get your point. But changing managers with the same players doesn't lead to improvement, as we've found out. Managers don't always get to choose who comes in. I agree you're way ahead of us team wise. But your weakness is in defence at times, and squad depth in certain areas. How do you afford the players to sort it out given PSR restrictions. All fans dream, but as I said, the top 4 are almost always big 6 clubs. When Leicester won it they did it counter attacking through Mahrez and Vardy, with other players working hard in support, luck with injuries and the superb addition of Kante sealing the centre of a defence conceding 0 x 14 games, 1 x 14 games, and that is what all teams outside the big 6 need to get. Then Moyes would put you in the top 4/5/6 but finding the right combination of Keeper, Centre backs and defence midfielder isn't easy on a budget. Our problem is that some of our players don't always work well together, especially in defence/midfield. As for Spurs, they had a bad run when they lost most of their defence, or they'd have around 10-12 points more than they have now. Squad improvement is a suits thing now, and if Moyes went I suspect you'd drop down the league. That said, good luck to you and the team for this season, and many season to come. Be well.
Given how antisemitic West Ham fans are especially towards Tottenham I’m surprised the media still give them coverage. Does the media support antisemitism?
Well said
Oi Tony, how's that PAI capital thing going for you? Cottee (who would never have been played, yet alone score any goals in a Moyes system) being asked by another Scotsman who's also living in the past and lucky to be in a job... The irony!!! 🤣