Ryzen 5 5600X vs Ryzen 5 3600 Test in 10 Games | 1080p and 1440p CPU Bottleneck Test (RTX 3060 Ti)

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  • @GentlemanGG
    @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +94

    Planned to make this video for weeks since I got the R5 5600X
    I did not expected to see such are results comaring these two CPUs. The diffrence at 1080p is just great in favor of Ryzen 5600X. That's a good point to upgrade your Ryzen 3600 if you're playing this resolution with high-end GPU and high refresh-rate monitor.
    At 1440p we see just a few percent improvement, so both CPUs kind of manages this resolution with 3060 Ti.
    Maybe one day I'll get 7600X and test them all in one video 🙂

    • @-xs4xw
      @-xs4xw Рік тому +2

      AMD Ryzen 7 5800X* 🙃

    • @Pentaghast
      @Pentaghast Рік тому +3

      Thanks for that, Ill keep the 3600 until get 1440 monitor.

    • @rodrigocordero1000
      @rodrigocordero1000 Рік тому +2

      Thanks for all your work, it's really cool!

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +1

      @@rodrigocordero1000 Thanks for watching!

    • @sofyo2bib
      @sofyo2bib Рік тому +2

      i have 8700K 4.5 all core undervolting ...i thing im in the same case 3600 😁

  • @cloudtro
    @cloudtro Рік тому +52

    I just moved from a 3600 to a 5600. I game on a 1440p monitor powered by a 6750XT. There is no massive difference between the two processors in average fps. The big improvement is the 1% lows. In most occasions 5600 has at least 10fps more in lows. This makes the overall experience smoother and more enjoyable. The small but noticeable in cpu demanding titles bottleneck with the 3600, has noticeably improved. The upgrade cost me about 100 euros. I wouldn't give more than 100 for this kind of upgrade. My two cents.

    • @XgodzpureX
      @XgodzpureX Рік тому +2

      When you were using the 3600 did it feel as if the games would stutter more frequently? Did a similar upgrade with a 3070 @ 1440p and feel like my games should be running much smoother

    • @miftachulhuda2383
      @miftachulhuda2383 Рік тому +1

      i have similar setup like yours 3600 but with rx6800 (kinda similar with 6750xt), do think i should upgrade to 5600?

    • @miftachulhuda2383
      @miftachulhuda2383 Рік тому +2

      ​@@XgodzpureX check your vram usage, maybe the 8gb vram causing the stutter . because i use same 1400p and somtimes the vram usage exceed 8gb

    • @cloudtro
      @cloudtro Рік тому +2

      @@miftachulhuda2383 If the cost of the upgrade as a whole (selling 3600) is about 80 euros go for it. Especially if you game at 1080p. Ideally wait for 5800X3D to drop below 200euros or buy it used at this price. Too bad i cannot recommend a AM5 upgrade because of the cost.

    • @cloudtro
      @cloudtro Рік тому +1

      @@XgodzpureX Lows went up and the result was a smoother experience. It's not about frequency it's about frame rate. Stutters can show a lot of things. Check what your system is doing while gaming.

  • @GentlemanGG
    @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +11

    Intro : 00:00
    A Plague Tale Requiem : 00:04 (1080p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    A Plague Tale Requiem : 00:55 (1440p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Cyberpunk 2077 : 01:43 (1080p Ultra + RTX OFF + DLSS Quality)
    Cyberpunk 2077 : 02:43 (1440p Ultra + RTX OFF + DLSS Quality)
    Forza Horizon 5 : 03:40 (1080p Extreme)
    Forza Horizon 5 : 04:35 (1440p Extreme)
    Horizon Zero Dawn : 05:26 (1080p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Horizon Zero Dawn : 06:16 (1440p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Microsoft Flight Simulator : 07:05 (1080p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Microsoft Flight Simulator : 07:55 (1440p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Red Dead Redemption 2 : 08:41 (1080p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Red Dead Redemption 2 : 09:39 (1440p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Spider-Man Remastered : 10:34 (1080p V.High + RTX ON V.High + DLSS Quality)
    Spider-Man Remastered : 11:27 (1440p V.High + RTX ON V.High + DLSS Quality)
    Uncharted 4: Legacy of Thieves Collection : 12:20 (1080p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Uncharted 4: Legacy of Thieves Collection : 13:12 (1440p Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Warzone : 14:01 (1080p Low-Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Warzone : 14:56 (1440p Low-Ultra + DLSS Quality)
    Watch Dogs: Legion : 15:47 (1080p Ultra + RTX OFF + DLSS Quality)
    Watch Dogs: Legion : 16:49 (1440p Ultra + RTX OFF + DLSS Quality)

  • @RochelGamer
    @RochelGamer Рік тому +10

    Like 300
    Muito bom man, Era esse comparativo que estava precisando, só os games que eu jogo! Parabéns!

    • @oldmarservtec2037
      @oldmarservtec2037 Рік тому

      Clock do R5 3600 dele não está subindo para os 4.200MHZ, estranho isso deve ser a fonte que não entrega porque a temperatura está baixa. Eu falo isso porque tenho um 3600 e chega certinho nos 4.200MHZ. Talvez não daria tanta diferença nesses testes dele.

    • @enstore5639
      @enstore5639 Рік тому

      @@oldmarservtec2037 o turbo é em 1 clock se nao me engano. que eu lembro o correto era testar tudo no low em full hd, para deixar gpu usar menos e o processador fazer o trabalho. quanto mais alto resoluçao e grafico mais da gpu vai exigir

    • @cgiurizatto
      @cgiurizatto Рік тому

      ​@@enstore5639 No caso essa GPU da gargalo, se jogar uma RTX 3090 por exemplo, extrai uma diferença absurda do 5600x em cima do 3600.

  • @michaelparrar4805
    @michaelparrar4805 Рік тому +7

    Excelente comparativo. Mil gracias

  • @Realthinx
    @Realthinx Рік тому +8

    Incredible difference in MSFS, even with a solid mid-tier GPU. Very helpful real life review, since most people dont upgrade 4090 rigs.👍

  • @ItsNeiyuuki
    @ItsNeiyuuki Рік тому +7

    This vid is exactly what I’m looking for thank you

  • @ian-5107
    @ian-5107 Рік тому

    What version of GPU driver are you using? I use 527.56 right now which is the latest and getting lots of drops with my 3600x and 3060ti

  • @RaihanSergi
    @RaihanSergi Рік тому +1

    i really needed this. clicked and liked right away thanks broder

  • @Zemsito
    @Zemsito Рік тому +9

    Este video me motivó a actualizar mi CPU, gracias ;)

    • @zahidromero2390
      @zahidromero2390 Рік тому

      Por que?
      En realidad yo no noto una diferencia relevante 🤔

    • @zahidromero2390
      @zahidromero2390 Рік тому

      Pregunto por que me gustaría saber tus motivos para la actualización

  • @REgamesplayer
    @REgamesplayer Рік тому +6

    The real difference and most important factor for an upgrade are 1% lows. This is where the real story is being told in most titles.

  • @abhinavmohindra
    @abhinavmohindra Рік тому +30

    R5 3600 runs at 4200 Mhz when PBO is enabled in bios without any manual overclock. Could have gotten a bit more FPS vs 4000 Mhz.

    • @maxrotebal6193
      @maxrotebal6193 Рік тому +1

      Power consumption will increase a lot with pbo enabled?

    • @abhinavmohindra
      @abhinavmohindra Рік тому

      @@maxrotebal6193 not much, have it enabled since August 2019, with 4.2 Ghz all core boost ( with a 240mm AIO) on a B450 Tomahawk. Should be around 80 watts

    • @francescosalvadori9891
      @francescosalvadori9891 Рік тому

      I have my R5 3600 manually overclocked to 4Ghz, you think having PBO enabled and letting it boost to 4.2 Ghz would give better results?

    • @abhinavmohindra
      @abhinavmohindra Рік тому +4

      @@francescosalvadori9891 100%, let it auto boost to 4.2 Ghz

    • @ZonaMortale
      @ZonaMortale Рік тому

      @@francescosalvadori9891 ho provato anch io con il pbo attivato, non arrivava mai a 4.2 ma sempre su 4.125! Adesso ho l oc manuale a 4.2 a 1.39v

  • @xrxholms
    @xrxholms Рік тому

    I see that resizable bar is disabled on gpu-z for both processors, its better to play with it disabled? Since some games has support for this and some fps gains with it enabled

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +1

      Re-bar is dead. The real difference between on and off modes is 1% or so (in the best case). For me I can only notice some fps improvement only in benchmark modes and synthetic tests but not the real gameplay

  • @mileenadrago5844
    @mileenadrago5844 Рік тому

    Like!
    What software you used in these tests to show fps in those games?

  • @EliandroRochel
    @EliandroRochel Рік тому +3

    Like 300
    Muito bom man, Era esse comparativo que estava precisando, so os games que eu jogo! Parabens!

  • @hrsouls
    @hrsouls Рік тому +1

    Hey my friend, what about Flight Simulator 2020 with a GTX 1660 Super + Ryzen 3600, i looking for 1080 HIGH, do you think its fine?

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +1

      Hey, ua-cam.com/video/1uBFhvCqif0/v-deo.html

    • @hrsouls
      @hrsouls Рік тому +1

      @@GentlemanGG omg

  • @vin324pl
    @vin324pl Рік тому

    Hello, what processor from the amd family under am4 will not be a bottleneck for the rx 6750 xt?
    I currently have a r5 3600

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      Sorry for the late. 5600X would be fine in most of the games. But you can go further and take 5800X3D, it's the best gaming CPU on AM4 socket

  • @jimmysgameclips
    @jimmysgameclips 11 місяців тому

    Off topic the VRAM usage is impressively low in Cyberpunk at 1440, but I know they use a really clever way of reusing shader materials

  • @omsuwiperkasa
    @omsuwiperkasa Рік тому

    I am stupido person. Please do tell . Is this video showing me : Left is 3600 Ultra setting and Right is 5600X in DLSS Quality setting?

  • @hartsickdisciple
    @hartsickdisciple Рік тому +8

    I used to have a 3600, and it consistently boosted to between 4.2 and 4.3 ghz. Why is yours only hitting 4 ghz?

  • @joachimahearn1620
    @joachimahearn1620 Рік тому +8

    Can confirm that cpu bottlenecks with the 3060ti exists at ultra settings at 1440p. Didnt want to believe when I bought it but my 10100f bottlenecks the 3060ti at 4k in some games like death stranding, god of war, and especially horizon zero dawn if you are in the jungle part. Yes everything is at ultra in settings and although I run dlss at quality which lightens the gpu load by rendering at 1440p, my 10100f bottlenecks at 4k which is insane. Hoping to upgrade soon but that 3060ti and my power supply blowing up when I first got set me back quite a bit. Right now I am just running all games with dlsdr set to 4k to decrease cpu bottlenecks, so much for my 1440p 100fps dream

    • @gpubenchmarks7905
      @gpubenchmarks7905 Рік тому +4

      Its an i3...

    • @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
      @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty Рік тому

      i3 sucks and 10th gen sucked, that's why bro. You made a huge mistake not getting at least 6 cores. You want a 5600X, 11600k or 12400 for 3060Ti.

    • @MHCP
      @MHCP Рік тому

      1- 4c8t aint enough for 1440p/4k
      2- 10th gen of Intel is slow in these days compared to Zen 3/Zen 4 or Alder Lake (12th gen).

    • @gavrawlinson3099
      @gavrawlinson3099 10 місяців тому

      I run a rtx msi trio 3060ti and a ryzen 5 3600 and I get over a 100 fps on death stranding

    • @gavrawlinson3099
      @gavrawlinson3099 10 місяців тому

      ​..

  • @Alexu4Trance
    @Alexu4Trance Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @PijoterPL
    @PijoterPL Рік тому +2

    I have similar setup: Ryzen 5 3600X and 3060Ti, but on B450 TOMAHAWK MAX MOBO and 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz Dual Channel (i have upgraded GPU a while ago). Will CPU only upgrade for R5 5600/5600X make a noticeable difference? For now on I am using 1080 monitor.

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +3

      Well, that's why you came here, right? All cards on the table as you can see. So if you're ok with the numbers on 5600x compared to 3600 you should be all right upgrading after 3600x to 5600x. For me I took 5600X for $150. So if you can grab it for the same price or so - take it.
      Also take a look at the R7 5800X3D

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 Рік тому +1

      in warzone i see 50% increase, thats huge considering 3600x isnt a bad cpu on its own

    • @francescosalvadori9891
      @francescosalvadori9891 Рік тому

      It all comes down to the refresh rate of your monitor. I have the R5 3600 and RTX 3060 Ti, but a 75 Hz monitor so I rly dont need to upgrade my cpu since I won't see the difference. If you have a 144 Hz monitor and play on 1080p you probably want to upgrade to a R5 5600x to get to those 144 fps.

  • @besmart9624
    @besmart9624 Рік тому

    this is a comparison whole world needs. many thanks!

    • @gorsky6382
      @gorsky6382 Рік тому

      and world gonna wait for ddr5 now))

  • @OPEasyRevenge
    @OPEasyRevenge Рік тому +5

    I was considering to upgrade, but there is just a minor change in fps. Thanks for this 🔥👌

    • @Azola
      @Azola Рік тому +3

      minor change?

    • @MrPianox3
      @MrPianox3 Рік тому +11

      @All In One in 1440p there is really no big change, in shooter maybe you get 180 instead of 140 fps, but even then most ppl have 144 hz or even 60 hz monitors so I dont see the point. If you want to play these type of AAA games in 1440p 144hz then you need at least a 6800 or 3080

    • @boom78
      @boom78 Рік тому +4

      Agree, the upgrade is really only worth it with a high refresh monitor. Still getting over 60 fps with 3600, good enough.

    • @timmyp6297
      @timmyp6297 Рік тому +1

      Its only worth it if you go 8 core (5700x is 30 dollars more) or higher, like everyone should be. Buying a 5600 now is a mistake.

  • @TONY_CHOPPER94
    @TONY_CHOPPER94 Рік тому

    awesome thank you!

  • @n4yR
    @n4yR Рік тому

    Can you try using the new drivers? 526.47. It has FPS boost, maybe it will make a difference between the 2 processors?

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      Actually the 522.25 driver bring us the performance boost for dx12 games (the driver I used in the video).
      526.47 is just a regular one, nothing interesting there. Take some time for double check

    • @TW1CEimn1d4
      @TW1CEimn1d4 Рік тому +1

      @@GentlemanGG thanks! got it. I'm on the 3600 setup now. Wanted to see if 5600x is worth having since a brand-new, tray type is only around $ 160-170 from where I am. Thanks again!

  • @hurtlocker9600
    @hurtlocker9600 Рік тому +8

    You should have switched dlss off to know native performance 🙄🙄, it could have also helped in comparing dlss on vs off.

  • @lucasinacio1805
    @lucasinacio1805 Рік тому +5

    Acho que deveria travar a frequência dos dois CPU para um comparativo mais preciso. A frequência boost do 3600 é de 4.2 GHz e nos testes mostrados ele mal passa de 4 GHz enquanto o 5600 tá a mais de 4.4 GHz

    • @diegoh.9658
      @diegoh.9658 Рік тому +1

      mas o clock boost do 5600x é 4.7Ghz

    • @lucasinacio1805
      @lucasinacio1805 Рік тому

      @@diegoh.9658 eu sei disso , mas pra ficar algo mais padrão e mostrar a evolução dos processadores, no mínimo os clocks deveriam está travados

    • @joseluisgonzalez9483
      @joseluisgonzalez9483 Рік тому

      @@lucasinacio1805 el 3600 alcanza 4400 mhz

    • @lucascoelho6833
      @lucascoelho6833 Рік тому

      @@joseluisgonzalez9483 o meu 4.6

  • @user-dc8lk9xy8c
    @user-dc8lk9xy8c Рік тому

    They will be diffrence at 1440p from 5600 to 5700x ?

  • @gyldesign8388
    @gyldesign8388 Рік тому +1

    my own test reveal that a "poor" i3-8350k 4core @stock have very nearly the same performances with my 3060ti (1440p) than my ryzen7-3700x. and even if the intel platform have only 8Go against 32Go for my amd platform. Conclusion: no spent money for cpu for a gaming usage, invest much more on the combo display/gpu board, and vsynch you game!

  • @G_O_A_T245
    @G_O_A_T245 Місяць тому

    Is 3600 good for rx5600xt ?
    Any bn issue ?

  • @Unnoficial4
    @Unnoficial4 Рік тому +1

    comparativa perfecta, la selección de juegos es inmejorable, Watch Dogs Legion, Flight Simulator, Cyberpunk, Spiderman son muy CPU demandantes, ahi se ve el potencial real de estas CPU

    • @GameslordXY
      @GameslordXY Рік тому

      What are you talking about?
      At CP2077 there was no difference,but perhaps it can be a whole lot different with RT ON

    • @MHCP
      @MHCP Рік тому

      CP2077 requiere más gráfica que procesador, mismo caso el MFS.
      Spiderman no se lleva bien con los Ryzen

  • @SINHRO-FAZA
    @SINHRO-FAZA Рік тому +12

    Ха, выходит довольно прикольно, при вроде бы не загруженности обоих процессоров (от 60 до 70%). Разница в скорости отрисовки кадров довольно значительна. На деле видно плохо оптимизированные процы 3к линейки. Это как одному в статье доказывал, что загруженность процессора не отражает его действительную загрузку, т.к. вроде при 60%, но 3600 уже не вытягивает, т.к. идут простои из-за кривой архитектуры кристалла, потому как энергопотребление идёт "на всю котлету", в 5600Х же всё более оптимизированно, и видно что архитектуру подтянули, видимо сказались толковые советы одного нанятого одарённого инженера, не припомню имя, но щас он вроде интел консультирует..

    • @triviumfan9411
      @triviumfan9411 Рік тому +2

      У меня как раз 3060ти + 10600к. Во всех проектах загрузка карты 100%. Не верю, что рязани, даже 5 серии "не могут раскрыть" эту бюджетную карточку. Есть подозрения, что у тестера что-то не так с программной или аппаратной частью.

    • @SINHRO-FAZA
      @SINHRO-FAZA Рік тому

      @@triviumfan9411 Тут дело не в раскрытии или закрытии, тут походу больше сделали упор именно в проц, понизив требования для видеокарты (малое разрешение, или плохо подобраны тайминги памяти)..

    • @triviumfan9411
      @triviumfan9411 Рік тому

      @@SINHRO-FAZA максимальные настройки в fhd - нормальные условия. Тут или плохая оптимизация, архитектура зен или какие-то программно-аппаратные проблемы. Повторюсь, на интоле 10600 проблем ноль.

    • @mayw11
      @mayw11 Рік тому

      @@triviumfan9411 потому что всё затачивается под интел и нвидия,вот и результат

    • @sergeydanilov8308
      @sergeydanilov8308 Рік тому

      У меня 3700х, по тестам в играх пишут примерно на уровне 5600х, так в рдр2 на ультрах в фулхд загрузка цп +-30%, а здесь 60-70 и ФПС мне кажется здесь завышен 3060ти не должна выдавать под 100фпс в рдр2 на ультрах, что-то здесь не так

  • @Trancelistic
    @Trancelistic Рік тому +4

    I run a r5 3600 and 3060TI as well. But I'm waiting for a 5800x3D Its the last CPU I will buy for my platform.

    • @Trancelistic
      @Trancelistic Рік тому

      @@dc-gm7lu I doub it. Its a good cooled x570 board.
      Heck, my old FX8370 pc still runs, my older i7 2600k, older Q9650 runs. liek new, Heck I even got a p1 166 mhz that has no issues at all.

  • @nevernicemeadow
    @nevernicemeadow Рік тому +29

    this just shows how great it is to have a sockel over 5 years. anyone having anything between ryzen 3 1200 and ryzen 7 3800x, can just pop in a 5600 for 140$ (or 5600x for a bit more) at the end of the AM4 sockel and get a huge bump for almost no money

    • @peppernickelly
      @peppernickelly Рік тому +5

      I personally went from a 2200G - Vega 8 in 2018 to the 3700X - RX 580 8GB in 2020 and lastly to the 5950X - 6800 XT in 2022, all for which has more than paid for themselves. Started off with the end in mind with a set of 32GB 3200MHZ C14 on the 2200G and recently added a second set for 64GB on the 5950X. I do a lot of 3d modeling.

    • @nevernicemeadow
      @nevernicemeadow Рік тому +1

      @@peppernickelly interesting... in 2018 i build a HTPC with a ryzen 3 2200g so my gf could play elder scrolls online on the TV with me.... Now i use that board and RAN (also 3200) + an additional 64GB RAM giving me total of 80GB now and put in a used 5800X for 170$... retired my good old (8 years old) Haswell system with Xeon1231v3 32 GB DDR3... dont really need 80GB but working as a softweare dev in some projects i hit nearly 30GB usage running all services and tests. Since i plan on using that system for at least 5 years i just want to be on the safe side for the RAM. still using my 1080TI which i bought for 750$ new in 2017. Eventually i ll get a used 3090 when i find one for 700 € some time the next years. Could make use of the 24GB for deep learning stuff

    • @peppernickelly
      @peppernickelly Рік тому

      @@nevernicemeadow Now that's a cool idea, uping it to 80GB for software dev. I didn't really need a PC or a smartphone until like 2016, so my first desktop was a referb HP something with a AMD FX-8310 with 8Gb of ddr3 ram and a R7 270 2GB gpu. It was like half of what the 2200G could do. But it was my wife's "gaming" PC with a 1060 3GB until 2019 when a good B550 and the R5 3600XT became available. Now both of our needs have been running to the point of using the 5950X, she runs the 6700 XT 12GB and I'm running the 6800 XT 16GB. We plan on keeping our systems and upgrading our GPU's sometime in 2025, maybe a 8950 XTX or a 5090 ti lol or whatever they name them. It's interesting to see that the Ryzen 5000 series vs the 7000 series in 4k gaming is about a 1% to 3% difference. So no real reason for price of the 7000 series plus the ddr5 for maybe another 2 to 3 years.

    • @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
      @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty Рік тому +7

      All the way from R3 1200 to R7 5800X3D. What a phenomenal socket, it'll stay relevant for the next few years guaranteed.

    • @MRGrenick
      @MRGrenick 3 місяці тому

      "huge bump for almost no money" it depends on where you live. My average monthly salary in the country is $400. 140 is good money.

  • @HiredGoonage
    @HiredGoonage Рік тому

    numbers are about what I'd expect, but really can't seem me enjoying a game any more or less with either CPU

  • @jonathanrosario6244
    @jonathanrosario6244 9 місяців тому

    Is it worth it to upgrade my 3600 to 5600 or 5600x?

  • @ShimmloLetsPlays
    @ShimmloLetsPlays Рік тому

    do I get it right, that dlss is only activated with the 5600X? than this is no fair comparison in terms if fps.
    Maybe its meant for both, the placement is a bit misleading.

  • @thierry1026
    @thierry1026 Рік тому

    I got a 3060ti and I tough my 2600x would be fine, it is not for some games I play even at 1440p, I need to get the 5600x instead right?

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      The upgrade from 2600x to 5600x would be just great even at 1440p

  • @JustJont3
    @JustJont3 Рік тому

    What cooling do you have or do you just use stock cooling

  • @2ruthwastaken
    @2ruthwastaken Рік тому

    I wish you tested them without dlss on 1080p cause on 1080p dlss not really looks great imo

  • @mortada04
    @mortada04 11 місяців тому

    The impressive thing that in 2K the r5 3600 work very well and close to 5600 x
    But in 1080p the drop off FPS is noticed

  • @joaopaulofrazao8126
    @joaopaulofrazao8126 Рік тому +19

    Very interesting tests! We can come to a conclusion that RTX 3060 TI or above are not just meant to be used in higher resolutions, but it also loses performance if you use lower resolutions.

    • @hurtlocker9600
      @hurtlocker9600 Рік тому +14

      I didn't get point what u mean🙄?

    • @chris_rnj2163
      @chris_rnj2163 Рік тому +2

      @@hurtlocker9600 Lower graphics = games are CPU bound, Ultra graphics = GPU utilization gets to 99% and you will get the same fps no matter what CPU.

    • @hurtlocker9600
      @hurtlocker9600 Рік тому +1

      @@chris_rnj2163 Yes I know that my query 3060ti aren't used in higher definitions ,did u mean higher resolutions 🙄

    • @joaopaulofrazao8126
      @joaopaulofrazao8126 Рік тому

      @@hurtlocker9600 Yes, Sorry bad english 😂

    • @joaopaulofrazao8126
      @joaopaulofrazao8126 Рік тому

      @@hurtlocker9600 edited. Sorry bad english 😂

  • @Nick.L.
    @Nick.L. Рік тому +13

    I think you should always note that your 3060 ti is quite heavily overclocked. Most people will not see the frames you are getting in the vid. Probably 5-10% less

    • @ricartroll
      @ricartroll Рік тому +2

      His gpu its a beast, my 3060ti cant get above of 1935 mhz and the temps he manages are to low, mine at 912 mv reach 75 degrees

  • @Turgineer
    @Turgineer Рік тому

    I'll be getting a 3060 Ti graphics computer soon, and definitely the R5 5600 seems more plausible.

  • @muhammadjahidhossain
    @muhammadjahidhossain Рік тому

    which best processor for graphics?

  • @ImperialDiecast
    @ImperialDiecast Рік тому +32

    i am wondering...if the GPU isnt at 100%, while the cpu is at 100%, then it is bottlenecked by the cpu by the difference in percent, right? So if the GPU is at 85% it means 15% bottleneck, if the GPU is at 92% it means 8% bottleneck?

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +15

      It's very simplified but yes.

    • @andrexskin
      @andrexskin Рік тому +11

      It kinda depends, I wouldn't really say that if the GPU is at 80% the performance is crippled by 20%, or atleast it doesn't always work this way with metrics, check Hardware Unboxed video about the 5600x and 3600 too if you want even more metrics

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +12

      I mean, at some stage it does work just like you said... but there could be so many and many other scenarios when it doesn't.
      Sometimes the performance can be better on one rig even if another rig shows you the same GPU/CPU/RAM etc load metrics. It can be related to RAM specs, different CPU cache speed and amount, GPU driver and any other background, Windows settings, PCI-E interface and other fun stuff 😀

    • @Nick.L.
      @Nick.L. Рік тому

      Yeah, but also not always. Looking at GPU power consumption would be a better indicator of the amount of performance it's putting out. Also, just because GPU is maxed out and CPU isn't, doesn't mean that a CPU upgrade wouldn't improve performance

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 Рік тому

      as you may have noticed playing at 1440 sort of removed the bottleneck

  • @ashwinkoshti9991
    @ashwinkoshti9991 Рік тому

    Very useful comparison, i am looking to upgrade my ryzen 3 1200, to either 3600 or 5600x but will be pairing it with rx 6600, do you think the numbers for 1080p will still be similar or things will be gpu bottlenecked more? Thanks.

    • @Omar-jv4wn
      @Omar-jv4wn Рік тому

      The rx 6600 is stronger than the RTX 3060, so your results will be or better. But they definitely won't be worse.

    • @MHCP
      @MHCP Рік тому

      @@Omar-jv4wn
      3060 > 6600
      Maybe you mean 6600XT

  • @pjilla629
    @pjilla629 Рік тому

    Why are you comparing these cpus in a non similar comparison. Using dlss in one and not the other doesn't seem like an accurate reading between the 2

  • @G4M3RGU1D3
    @G4M3RGU1D3 Рік тому +1

    ur 3600 isnt clocking past 4.0 ghz while it's so easy to push it to 4.35 without a sweat, could gain 10 fps right there

  • @Driftuner
    @Driftuner Рік тому +2

    Oh man now thats funny, i also have a 3060TI and just upgraded from a 3600 to the 5600X. And yes, getting similar results! Great combo of cpu-gpu, they match really well

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +1

      Congrats 🎉

    • @Driftuner
      @Driftuner Рік тому

      @@GentlemanGG thx mate, you too. What mobo are you using? I did a bios update on my B450 and it worked with the 5600

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      @@Driftuner msi x470 gaming plus max, same thing.

    • @yigit198
      @yigit198 Рік тому

      bro what about ryzen 5 5600 ? i have rtx 3060ti now and will buy ryzen 5 5600. and there is like 40 $ difference between ryzen 5 5600 with ryzen 5 5600x. do u think there will be bottleneck between 5600 and rtx 3060ti ? low end = 3050 , 2060, and maybe 3060.

    • @Driftuner
      @Driftuner Рік тому

      @@yigit198 there is quite a leap from the 5600 to the X version, but if youre on a budged then go with the 5600 and the better gpu. The 5600 is more than good enough, i just went with the X because i got it for pretty much the same price as the 5600 at a discount where i live..

  • @sascha_w
    @sascha_w Рік тому

    Hey, can u do that with the Ryzen 5 5500 vs Ryzen 5 3600, would be more interessting, since the 5500 is really cheap but also powerful.

  • @eugene01
    @eugene01 Рік тому +1

    I wonder what's the difference between 3700X and 5600X

  • @barisuguracar
    @barisuguracar Рік тому +1

    1080p ryzen 3600 will only bottleneck at stock settings. If you overclock the CPU, you may not see bottleneck, but there will be occasional stutters.

  • @logikaaneh
    @logikaaneh Рік тому

    😍my 3600 🚀🚀🙏 ,selalu besyukur dan lakukan upgrade pada part lainya ,

  • @catalinpop6669
    @catalinpop6669 Рік тому

    What CPU cooler do you use for that 5600x?

  • @triviumfan9411
    @triviumfan9411 Рік тому +2

    I see very strange results. It cannot be that 3060ti is loaded by 50-60% in most games with such CPUs. It seems that someone caught a miner or something like that.
    I have 3060ti + 10600k and almost all games load my card at 100% in 1080p.

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      Take some time to test any game from the test with the same settings I set and the same location and you'll see pretty much close results

    • @triviumfan9411
      @triviumfan9411 Рік тому

      @@GentlemanGG if i could... I dont have Ryzen.

    • @tamaskurunczi1425
      @tamaskurunczi1425 Рік тому +1

      There is big fault in this testing. That in every game that has DLSS it is turned on. Ofc there will be huge cpu bottleneck. The actual render resolution at 1440p Quality: 1707x960p and at 1080p Quality: 1280x720p. I suggest next time this setting should be turned off, same with FSR.
      I have a 3060Ti and went from Ryzen 3600 to 5700X and at 1440p high-ultra quality (depending on game) the difference is not that much in modern games. Older (online) games can benefit more, for example BfV at 1440p ultra went from aroun 120fps to 140-150fps.

  • @Nick-nf1kd
    @Nick-nf1kd Рік тому +38

    Is my 3600 really this bad now? I just bought a 3060ti, I can't really upgrade the cpu too now 😂

    • @olitomi2000
      @olitomi2000 Рік тому +7

      It happened with me too but I bought an 3080, so I had to buy a new cpu. After the upgrade I had +20 - +30 fps in my games… After that I saw what a ddr5 ram capable of, so I just said fuck off…

    • @retrotechpinas3640
      @retrotechpinas3640 Рік тому +1

      learn to overclock + undervolt it at least. Had mine running at 4.325ghz at 1.22v. It won't go past the 5600x but at least it will narrow the gap for a bit more

    • @chaosbl00d
      @chaosbl00d Рік тому +2

      I don’t notice any difference honestly

    • @vladimirmijic7008
      @vladimirmijic7008 Рік тому +2

      No biggie, not a problem to continue using 3600 especially that 1440p is the most popular resolution RN and quite small difference...

    • @801ronaldinho
      @801ronaldinho Рік тому +2

      ​​@@vladimirmijic7008 65% of steam users play in 1080p and 13% less then that. 12% plays in 2k and almost 3% in 4k. The rest is in between 1080p and 8k. I would say 1080p is the most popular. (2023 february steam survey, 35 million gamers/day)

  • @KacheyRU
    @KacheyRU Рік тому

    need test in Digital combat simulator :)

  • @RealFirebolt
    @RealFirebolt Рік тому

    u can see CPU diff. 500 MHz. if the of 3600 + 500 MHz the diff doesnt matter because the power should be the same.

  • @onura2710
    @onura2710 Рік тому +1

    You should closed dlss off for to see true difference.

  • @ARcellZ
    @ARcellZ 9 місяців тому

    I think 5 3600 still good for 2-3 years again, now the price cheaper than the first launch on july 2019. If you want playable with getting more fps just overclock and customize setting every game you play.

  • @enioochs7520
    @enioochs7520 Рік тому +1

    5600x is limited to 60° in bios?

  • @aldente6821
    @aldente6821 Рік тому

    3600X weak for RTX 2080/144/1080p?
    Clock 4150, Mem 3733cl16, 2x8.

  • @user-rr7ho3tl4x
    @user-rr7ho3tl4x 5 місяців тому

    I managed to lock my 5600x in 4.5ghz @1.25v and the temp below 65° the performance is awesome for game with rtx3070 1080p

  • @Harzexe
    @Harzexe Рік тому +2

    5600x is obviously a better cpu BUT let's say that you want to build a super duper cheap system with a budget gpu. If you can find 3600 for a very low price it would be still a solid, great system.

    • @juanmassiosare9850
      @juanmassiosare9850 Рік тому

      My R5 3600 (used) cost me only 50 USD (in Mexico) and if I had the opportunity, I wouldn't mind investing my money in an RTX 3060ti, an RX 6700XT or future equivalent GPUs.

  • @doug753
    @doug753 Рік тому +1

    i undervolted my 3600x to 1.1 and still had 4.3 Ghz all core, it appears your 3600 sucks.
    i have 5600x now, 4.3 Ghz all cores at 1.22. runs way hotter then my 3600x did.

  • @GameslordXY
    @GameslordXY Рік тому +2

    A shame you did not test with Maxed Raytracing in CP2077.
    Or heavily moded Skyrim,to see if 5600X brings significant advantage or not.
    I suppose based on Spiderman,it might be worth it.
    Honestly I am more interested in Ryzen 5 5500 vs 5600 , but 5600X is usually insignificantly better than 5600 and 3600 and 5500 trade blows.

    • @sotesz
      @sotesz Рік тому

      The 5500 has half the cache, and the X3D showed how much cache can matter in games. For me pesonally, it would be a no-brainer that 5500 is out of the question for gaming.

  • @roleq11
    @roleq11 Рік тому +1

    Please test 2600x and 5600x ,and gpu rtx 3060ti

  • @Theworthsearcher
    @Theworthsearcher Рік тому +1

    So if you have a B350 MOBO from 2017, you are still good. ;) Not like with intel's 7700K. ;)

  • @sergeybespalov2012
    @sergeybespalov2012 Рік тому

    Не правильно тестирование с сглаживанием с DLSS в любом случае будет лучше результат показывать

  • @Gamertron00
    @Gamertron00 Рік тому

    i5 12400f vs ryzen 5 5600x compare please

  • @exfat5129
    @exfat5129 Рік тому

    На i5 10400 в Plague Tale с 3070 на ультрах меньше 70 фпс я не видел. При этом карта загружена в сотку, а проц под 60%. Чёто с тестами у вас не то.

  • @chewbster
    @chewbster 3 місяці тому

    If I don’t see over 95% utilization on the Graphics Card, I feel that money has been thrown out the window.
    CPU: $139
    GPU: $500 which one would you rather put harder to work?
    We are finally hitting the post-FHD age

  • @kirisuma2186
    @kirisuma2186 Рік тому

    I don't know what is wrong with your 3600 but I get better performance in Spider Man Remastered... so... yeah... I watched this because I was wondering if it makes sense to upgrade but seing as my 3600 for some reason gets better performance then yours its not so easy to say. then again, nothing stoping me for going with a 5700 or something like that. Not going for the new CPUs / Motherboards though. I don't want to get a new cooler... again...

  • @darthpaulx
    @darthpaulx Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this. I need a new cpu haha. I have the 3600. Now i see how behind i am. Some games it makes over 20% difference.
    I'm waiting for the AM5 mobo's to drop in price. Then i get another 20+% over the 5600X. 😁

  • @dorion9111
    @dorion9111 Рік тому

    That 3060ti is overclocked... would have been nice to see stock settings

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      It is only a few percent boost for the real performance, so nothing interesting. I did the test before testing stock and OC on 3060 ti but with different oc conf.

  • @sivachenko
    @sivachenko 10 місяців тому +1

    Comparing prices now I would say that ryzen 5 3600 is much better in my opinion)

  • @MatheusFerreira-gf9nj
    @MatheusFerreira-gf9nj Рік тому +1

    WZ2 🤯

  • @VitalidadePaulito
    @VitalidadePaulito Рік тому

    The frequency of 3600 in the boost should be 4200 MHz, and on the video only 4000 MHz! Deception

  • @johnybrown5676
    @johnybrown5676 Рік тому

    Good job

  • @futureman8340
    @futureman8340 Рік тому

    on hight resolution and setting - differed small

  • @randomstuff1669
    @randomstuff1669 Рік тому

    pure rasterization performance difference would be better.

  • @LegionGamingTV
    @LegionGamingTV Рік тому

    Just some advice... Testing at Ultra and Extreme settings isnt how you test CPU bottlenecks.. You should be testing at low settings and be trying to get as many frames (FPS) as possible. All your doing is testing the GPU performace by testing at ULTTRA and EXTREME even with DLSS on.

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +1

      This test is more about real gaming conditions and settings that you would set if you got this rig, that's why you can see rtx 3060 ti on thumbnail.
      If you would like seeing low resolutions and low settings tests there are a tons of such a videos on YT

  • @MRGrenick
    @MRGrenick 3 місяці тому +1

    The difference is 20-30%. The difference in cost is 2 times. Not very profitable.

  • @hurtlocker9600
    @hurtlocker9600 Рік тому

    There isn't much fps difference is Gpu bottleneck cpu???

  • @williamwen3477
    @williamwen3477 Рік тому +7

    I had 3700x upgraded to 5800x3d paired with 3060ti, the fps difference is amazing

    • @Kage0No0Tenshi
      @Kage0No0Tenshi Рік тому

      I am not sure to get r7-5800x3d when I have my r5-5600x oc all cores lucked to 4.85Ghz and can even run it 4.9Ghz if needed

    • @gpubenchmarks7905
      @gpubenchmarks7905 Рік тому

      Gpu going brrrrrrm

    • @deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184
      @deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184 Рік тому

      @@MakeSh00t 7600x actually beats 5800x3d, it is DDR5 but if you're just gonna upgrade might as well go to AM5.

    • @Kage0No0Tenshi
      @Kage0No0Tenshi Рік тому

      @@MakeSh00t yeah, I am playing games that are CPU bound and not GPU only one game there I want to get is from COD MW2 but I am not sure if my rtx 3070 will handle it xD. I am waiting for 3D CPUs from 7000s to see benchmarks vs 5800x3d and going to buy one of them, untill that 5800x3d will be cheaper, my r5-5600x is 2 years old got it on realise day and happy with it but strugle in some games. I am not sure if my old EKWB block will work on am5.

    • @alejandromartino2247
      @alejandromartino2247 Рік тому

      @@MakeSh00t i have a rx6600 xt paired with a i5 8400. Make sense take the r7 5700x over the r5 5600x thinking ahead

  • @user-ul9ix6fq6m
    @user-ul9ix6fq6m Рік тому +3

    по итогам нашего спора и просмотру твоих ранних тестов.. ВЫВОД : надо было снять какое то видео, заодно оправдать себе покупку нового процессора под среднюю видео карту, отсюда отсутствие лока частот р5 3600 на 4200(а ранее был) и не удивлюсь что то в настройках подкручено. у меня все!! удачи, я отстал

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      То есть 3600 мне нужно было грубоговоря разогнать, а 5600x оставить в стоке? Железобетонно однако.
      Ну и если вам нравится смотреть тесты в розовых очках, то могу посоветовать один канал где у автора даже железа нету в физическом понимании этого слова, и он рисует цифры из головы. Правда навряд ли он вам хоть что то аргументировано объяснит.
      п.с. На счет разницы в 200MHz вам бонус : ua-cam.com/video/Yn4HxTj3FqA/v-deo.html

    • @user-ul9ix6fq6m
      @user-ul9ix6fq6m Рік тому +1

      @@GentlemanGG раньше то гнали)) в том то и дело.. они и без разгона с такими картами почти равны... я не знаю зачем вы сняли это видео, что там не так с р5 3600.. вы разбирайте сами.. мне не важно....

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      @@user-ul9ix6fq6m Я понял. Главное, что вы нашли для себя что хотели. Желаю успехов

    • @Mega8813
      @Mega8813 Рік тому +1

      @@user-ul9ix6fq6m Почти равны? Там в некоторых сценах разница в 30-40 фпс. 5600x сильнее в стоке и уж тем более в разгоне, это и так понятно. В некоторых играх даже 3700x слабее чем 5600x, о чём вообще спорить...

    • @user-ul9ix6fq6m
      @user-ul9ix6fq6m Рік тому

      @@Mega8813 а голову включить\?? я писал про количество ФПС с конкретной картой!! с 3060ти например.... с ними всегда упор в видео карту.....
      только тупой будет спорить что 5600х мощнее 3600 ....если поставить 3080 например

  • @-xs4xw
    @-xs4xw Рік тому +3

    AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
    vs
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600X

  • @Xulambu
    @Xulambu Рік тому

    a minha o core clock está 160 e memori clock 1500 a mais. . .

  • @nikosultraex7391
    @nikosultraex7391 Рік тому

    with 1440p the re is small differences !! but why the 3600 run only 4000 mhz ? my 3600 boost 4200 mhz stok

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      Than more intensive CPU load than less CPU clock speed

    • @hartsickdisciple
      @hartsickdisciple Рік тому

      @@GentlemanGG That's not how it works at all. The only time a CPU reduces boost is when it overheats or hits power limits. The 3600 is supposed to boost to 4.2 or 4.3 ghz under load, as long as the temperature stays under control. They boost higher as the load increases. I had a 3600, and currently have a 5800x. They all behave the way I'm describing. Something is wrong with your system configuration if the 3600 is only hitting 4 ghz under load. Mine would stay at 4.2+ for 10+ minutes straight at 100% load in torture testing.

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      @@hartsickdisciple 1. Both CPUs were tested at stock values, no PBO and overclocking here.
      2. The only way Ryzen 5 3600 can reach 4.3 is OC.
      3. Turbo-boost was always worked like if all of you CPU cores is maxed out it automatically decreases clock speed, this is how it works for intel and amd CPUs at stock values!

  • @tabsrulez
    @tabsrulez 7 місяців тому

    None of These 2 cpus can use 3060ti on maximum in 1080p. Dont look only on fps. U cant get 100% from 3060ti with 5600x. Almost always it works only on 80%.

  • @Balvz123
    @Balvz123 Рік тому

    Why not to use in-game benchs lol btw the r5 3600 is not performing like it could, some folks even make it stable at 4.3ghz all cores

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому

      Why not using in-game benchmarks? It's just my style. And I see it more honest for ppl who wants to see the real performance.
      About the 3600 clock speed. First thing, I did this comparison using stock values, no OC here or anything else.
      Second thing, my 3600 is a little bit slower than an averaged variant. Nothing special here, some CPUs are faster than the others, some are not.
      The difference between 4.0 and 4.2 or 4.3 GHz is just a few percent and not always measurable.
      I think that's it.

  • @egaist1018
    @egaist1018 Рік тому +3

    Странный тест, был бы смысл если сравнивались 3600x и 5600x. На данном 3600 даже частота процессора выше 4000 не поднимается.

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +2

      Смысл довольно субъективное понятие.
      На счет частоты: можете добавить пару процентов к производительности 3600 в тесте. Этот 3600 в стоке работает чуть хуже чем средний экземпляр

  • @GamerdaXtremz
    @GamerdaXtremz Рік тому

    BTW where is Gotham Knights? That's the most Unoptimized Game on PC to this Date.

    • @GentlemanGG
      @GentlemanGG  Рік тому +3

      Don't get me wrong but sometimes I see new games and they are so awful at every single point that I don't wanna hurt my and you mental health making a separate video about them 😀

  • @sarcof3459
    @sarcof3459 6 місяців тому

    Watch dogs, at 1440p you have almost more fps than at 1080p, with ryzen 5600x how is that possible.

  • @Vordigon1
    @Vordigon1 Рік тому +1

    Meanwhile I'm over here with a 3050 and 5600h.
    It's ok.

  • @user-wl5ec3sk4t
    @user-wl5ec3sk4t Рік тому

    мм а где буст 3600 до 4.2?

  • @eugeneswanson7508
    @eugeneswanson7508 Рік тому

    Its really painful to see that 3600 cant work effectively even with 3060ti