We have been getting “connectivity”: 1- Wanda’s story in WandaVision leads to her becoming the villain in Doctor Strange 2 2- Monica & Kamala crossover from 2 Disney Plus shows into The Marvels 3- Daredevil is canon and shows up in Spider-Man, She-Hulk & Echo 4- Loki starts the multiverse story which leads to Quantumania, No Way Home, MoM, What if & more to come 5- Yelena From BW to Hawkeye Plus more Do we need an Avengers movie by now? Yes absolutely! Especially to get the new characters interacting(that haven’t met yet) & to start forming relationships. But to say we’re not getting connectivity is wrong, we are but in different ways than what we’re used to.
F4 being set in the 60’s is exactly what Marvel should be doing. We all know they will be in present MCU by the end of the film anyways. Better to pay homage and give us a Wandavision theme vibe for cinemas
15:26 I can answer your eternals "plot hole" The answer was they didnt know that they were on earth to feed a celestial when thanos shows up. Arishem wasn't gonna show up because of thanos postponing the inevitable. It was still gonna happen if they didn't bring everyone back. You clearly didnt watch the movie, i think you slept through it Brandon. Also the eternals found out the the truth about 9-10 days after iron man snapped.
I thought HERBIE was added because they had sold the rights for the Human Torch and that the assumption that is was because of the kids safety was false.
Kids setting themselves on fire was what I’d heard when I watched the FF cartoon in the 70s but apparently it’s an urban myth. As you said Marvel sold the rights like the forward thinking company they were.
Pretty good official poster! Joseph Quinn & Tom Holland are only 2yrs apart in age, can see them having great chemistry together! Ebon Moss-Bachrach will knock it out of the park as Ben Grimm and actually elevate the character! Vanessa Kirby is a great pick for Sue, can do drama & action; and Pedro is a great solid anchor for the group!
Ooh the Fantastic Four cast looks great!! I totally agree about the theory of the weapon being used. That hellicarrier makes me wonder if they'll be a Marvel Television joke somewhere. Im looking forward to getting some F4 and the new Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver run
I pity the fool who is being rude and have bad manners at a movie screening with Jamie around because they will be JIRAK ATTACKED, BEWARE😳🤬🔥HB Jamie🎂‼️
The doctor strange 2 line about charting in the 60’s was a Beatles reference because they referred to the Beatles as the “Fab Four” it doesn’t have anything to do with their time period.
41:49; Writing Duo Matt Sazama & Burk Sharpless (Dracula Untold, The Last Witch Hunter, Gods of Egypt, Morbius & Madame Web) must have top-notch blackmail material on some Hollywood Executives! As only the Venom movies of these Sony live-action turds have made any money, it's going to take Venom 3 taking a massive nosedive at the Box Office for Sony to finally stop!!!
pedro is just playing another disney dad (franklin) its gonna be a more dramatic incredibles 2.pedro just isnt a mr. fanatstic face. more like mr. potatoehead. same goes for krasinsk, i which hype i don't understand either
14:56 people want the MCU to continue to tell new stories, but feel strongly about keeping constraining creative restrictions on how they manage to expand a universe that is 50 installments deep. • We’ve lost our willingness to gladly suspend disbelief as we watch stories about theatrical characters in spandex doing fantastical things.
It also may make more sense to be frustrated by the fantastic Forest lack of connectivity after we seen the movie in can confirm it has no connectivity, as opposed to preemptive frustration about it, while the movie is more than a year away still. Idk. 🤷🏼♂️
1:08:07 last thought 😹. What a great way to close out the episode. This is why I love coming to Phase Zero. • Even when the conversation gets prickly and sometimes has a short pessimistic pall over it (more-so thanks to the chaotic state of online cbm discourse these days from toxic fans), PZ is a team of folks who work hard to stay positive, spread light, and treat people with love and respect. The PZ community appreciates the heck outta y’all. • Happy Valentine’s Day. 💜💜💜💜
Who's going to see a Deadpool movie for the story?! for God's sake, they only go to satisfy their testosterone and progesterone, nothing more... it's an obsolete, basic, ordinary content with only bad examples... at least the MCU had it( thank God) 11 years of success and dignity 11 years where fortunately they still didn't have the rights to these useless, troublesome characters who don't add anything useful, at least for adults, because to say that this is mature content...mature content is a film like wakanda forever the eternal no way home spider man 2(2004)endgame infinity war this is mature content and can be more mature being pg 13 than deadpool deadpool is for children who never grew up properly...me When I was a kid, I just enjoyed watching Spider-Man swinging the Hulk around, yes indeed, yes, but in the meantime I've grown up, I see beyond that...yes, this film will be successful, yes, but for the worst reasons, it will only show the mediocrity and ordinariness that global audience has
Oh boy, I was afraid of that ! Pedro Pascal will still be compared to Krasinski's cameo which was in my humble opinion the perfect casting. I think he has a big nose, he's rather stocky, he'll never be Reed Richards to me. I'm not very happy with the actor who will play Johnny Storm but I will wait before giving my final verdict. Vanessa Kirby is wisely selected, she is popular and she carries the name “Kirby” who is one of the comic book legacy creators. I like the guy who ll play Ben Grimm even though he wasn't my first choice.. Good Luck Disney !
We have been getting “connectivity”:
1- Wanda’s story in WandaVision leads to her becoming the villain in Doctor Strange 2
2- Monica & Kamala crossover from 2 Disney Plus shows into The Marvels
3- Daredevil is canon and shows up in Spider-Man, She-Hulk & Echo
4- Loki starts the multiverse story which leads to Quantumania, No Way Home, MoM, What if & more to come
5- Yelena From BW to Hawkeye
Plus more
Do we need an Avengers movie by now? Yes absolutely! Especially to get the new characters interacting(that haven’t met yet) & to start forming relationships. But to say we’re not getting connectivity is wrong, we are but in different ways than what we’re used to.
I thought “didn’t they chart in the sixties” was a joke on Fantastic Four vs Fab Four?
Yep a joke on The Beatles is how I took it as well
12:44 It was joke about Beatles....
exactly!
We just got casting for sentry and now F4 marvel is cooking with all these castings
You need to watch the rest of The Bear, it’s so good. Ebon has a whole episode arc in season 2 which is incredible
"I don't have children. I have AMC A-List."
F4 being set in the 60’s is exactly what Marvel should be doing. We all know they will be in present MCU by the end of the film anyways. Better to pay homage and give us a Wandavision theme vibe for cinemas
I mean is there really any question of who will voice Herbie, Alan Tudyk, duh.
15:26 I can answer your eternals "plot hole" The answer was they didnt know that they were on earth to feed a celestial when thanos shows up. Arishem wasn't gonna show up because of thanos postponing the inevitable. It was still gonna happen if they didn't bring everyone back. You clearly didnt watch the movie, i think you slept through it Brandon. Also the eternals found out the the truth about 9-10 days after iron man snapped.
I thought HERBIE was added because they had sold the rights for the Human Torch and that the assumption that is was because of the kids safety was false.
Kids setting themselves on fire was what I’d heard when I watched the FF cartoon in the 70s but apparently it’s an urban myth. As you said Marvel sold the rights like the forward thinking company they were.
54:50 Jamie's rant about cellphones in the movie theater
Pretty good official poster! Joseph Quinn & Tom Holland are only 2yrs apart in age, can see them having great chemistry together! Ebon Moss-Bachrach will knock it out of the park as Ben Grimm and actually elevate the character! Vanessa Kirby is a great pick for Sue, can do drama & action; and Pedro is a great solid anchor for the group!
Ooh the Fantastic Four cast looks great!! I totally agree about the theory of the weapon being used. That hellicarrier makes me wonder if they'll be a Marvel Television joke somewhere. Im looking forward to getting some F4 and the new Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver run
this episode was so good and I agree with Aaron
I pity the fool who is being rude and have bad manners at a movie screening with Jamie around because they will be JIRAK ATTACKED, BEWARE😳🤬🔥HB Jamie🎂‼️
The doctor strange 2 line about charting in the 60’s was a Beatles reference because they referred to the Beatles as the “Fab Four” it doesn’t have anything to do with their time period.
41:49; Writing Duo Matt Sazama & Burk Sharpless (Dracula Untold, The Last Witch Hunter, Gods of Egypt, Morbius & Madame Web) must have top-notch blackmail material on some Hollywood Executives! As only the Venom movies of these Sony live-action turds have made any money, it's going to take Venom 3 taking a massive nosedive at the Box Office for Sony to finally stop!!!
BD is impatient
pedro is just playing another disney dad (franklin) its gonna be a more dramatic incredibles 2.pedro just isnt a mr. fanatstic face. more like mr. potatoehead. same goes for krasinsk, i which hype i don't understand either
"Bad for the economy"? Lol 😂
Pedro pascal is great actor but not my reed (hope they bring back john krasinski)
14:56 people want the MCU to continue to tell new stories, but feel strongly about keeping constraining creative restrictions on how they manage to expand a universe that is 50 installments deep.
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We’ve lost our willingness to gladly suspend disbelief as we watch stories about theatrical characters in spandex doing fantastical things.
It also may make more sense to be frustrated by the fantastic Forest lack of connectivity after we seen the movie in can confirm it has no connectivity, as opposed to preemptive frustration about it, while the movie is more than a year away still. Idk. 🤷🏼♂️
Lmaoooo speech to text **Fantastic Four
1:08:07 last thought 😹. What a great way to close out the episode. This is why I love coming to Phase Zero.
•
Even when the conversation gets prickly and sometimes has a short pessimistic pall over it (more-so thanks to the chaotic state of online cbm discourse these days from toxic fans), PZ is a team of folks who work hard to stay positive, spread light, and treat people with love and respect. The PZ community appreciates the heck outta y’all.
•
Happy Valentine’s Day. 💜💜💜💜
Who's going to see a Deadpool movie for the story?! for God's sake, they only go to satisfy their testosterone and progesterone, nothing more... it's an obsolete, basic, ordinary content with only bad examples... at least the MCU had it( thank God) 11 years of success and dignity 11 years where fortunately they still didn't have the rights to these useless, troublesome characters who don't add anything useful, at least for adults, because to say that this is mature content...mature content is a film like wakanda forever the eternal no way home spider man 2(2004)endgame infinity war this is mature content and can be more mature being pg 13 than deadpool deadpool is for children who never grew up properly...me When I was a kid, I just enjoyed watching Spider-Man swinging the Hulk around, yes indeed, yes, but in the meantime I've grown up, I see beyond that...yes, this film will be successful, yes, but for the worst reasons, it will only show the mediocrity and ordinariness that global audience has
FF 60s mulvese Dr Doom my gut James Gunn super Man be hit FF do well if fall go come book Mr f
And what plot hole from Captain marvel, swems like you dont think she's justified for leaving your earth and your precious human existence.
Jamie regularly complaining about “being up early” is detestable and privileged. Just stop.
OMG bro are we still on the "chart in the 60s" nonsense.... it was a british invasion joke ffs
Oh boy, I was afraid of that ! Pedro Pascal will still be compared to Krasinski's cameo which was in my humble opinion the perfect casting. I think he has a big nose, he's rather stocky, he'll never be Reed Richards to me. I'm not very happy with the actor who will play Johnny Storm but I will wait before giving my final verdict. Vanessa Kirby is wisely selected, she is popular and she carries the name “Kirby” who is one of the comic book legacy creators. I like the guy who ll play Ben Grimm even though he wasn't my first choice.. Good Luck Disney !
Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards is absolute trash. I remember when Marvel used to be good at casting.
Keep coping