Hey so the theories are all good and all but why don't people just ask the Creator if it's true or not because that would clear it up but nobody asked those questions
if that theory was true that'd mean ryuk used to be a death note owner as well, and that would be a cool spinoff to see, it'd be like a sort of ryuk backstory as well lol
@@fushhiii the rights are still being leased. The original owners don’t own it anymore according to international trademarks 🙄.. business is getting too big. I think Netflix holds the rights at the moment. It would be a fun show though
There for sure will be spin offs someday. Just look at the avatar the last airbender franchise, it’s gonna be the next stranger things. Death note literally has the same potential as avatar has
I honestly like the idea that all former owners of the death book are humans that have turned into shinigami it kind of rolls into that whole idea that you don't get to go to heaven or hell
Well in the last chapters of manga, Ryuk explains that all humans go to MU (Nothingness) and there's no changing it. He was just messing with light in the first chapters/episodes. This concept actually alines with general idea behind the whole series - the most valuable thing at life is a game, the only ones happy in this world are those who escape boredom and routine, especially knowing that after life there is nothing.
@@yandere5094 there a theory on the internet that saying Deathnote and Death Parade are connected. If that the case, then there are 2 normal path for human souls: reincarnation or nothingness abyss. Another way is probably becoming a staff in the judging tower or a shinigami
However do you realize the repercussions of this? Light as a shinigami with a goal to punish criminals, the death note and completely immune to everything unless he loves somebody which he would not do... He could proceed to kill criminals as Kira and now nobody can stop him.
@@dmitriy4708 The only way for that to work is if all the shinigami who used the Death Note in their human forms, would forget all their memories that were related to their human lives. As Ryuk said in Death Note, he pointed out that shinigami don't even know why they exist and what their purpose really is other than to kill people to extend their life span. So it would make sense that if light did turn into a shinigami, he would have forgotten all his memories from his human life. But for some reason, has a drive to go to the human world. Who knows. Maybe he could hand it to somebody and try to copy Ryuk. And on the inside, has the feeling of wanting to help Kira 2.0.
@@overcast1725 if that man got his memory back once he can do it again Logically speaking even if he doesn't regain his memory he would be smart enough to realise he was Kira
@@meriewanderer it's over time that he would figure it out. He's Kira. Again, even if he did find out, I'm pretty sure he would question if it's true or not since he has no recollection of his past. But yeah I do see your point and I do agree with you to some extent. And as far as the plot goes over time, he would soon start to realize that he was Kira.
No ryuk said he would either go to hell or heaven if he dies but he will never know Well ryuk can already Comfirmed that Light can be a fine shinagami already Well this is noncanon so it's still a very convincing theory
@@Mysterious....... he said he would NEITHER go to heaven or hell. I have the manga in front of me 😅 page 22 (black version) Ryuk said "don't think that any human who's used the death note can go to heaven or hell." 😉💖
I saw a post talking about the theory that light turn into a shinigami a very long time ago. And on that post, they said some thing that convinced me that the theory was true. Basically the post said that Thematically for the story it makes total sense for him to become a shinigami. I mean think about it. He’s so obsessed with power and the notebook and wanting to be able to control life and death, and he finally has all of that in a permanent irreversible way. It’s his book now. No one can take it from him. And he has the eyes. Except now he can’t use it to take over the world like he wanted to. He’s in another dimension where he’ll never be able to get credit for being god of the New World like he wanted. He’s immortal so in some ways he is a God, but not quite in the way that would stroke his ego. It’s like he’s so close to his goal, and he has so many of the things that he needed throughout the series but he’ll never be satisfied, and now he can only use the book to prolong his life, but never to achieve his goals. And he will be constantly miserable. That’s a pretty fitting end for someone like him.
That's just still a theory and the writer never claims it to be canon. For what I'm understand from that scene that new shinigami want to be like Ryuk, explore human world. He offered an apple as a trade off or payment to tell a story because all shinigami love apple like Ryuk mentioned in early episode.
@taqiyukenji Him offering an apple showed that it was light, because only Light would know Ryuk likes apples, since there are none in the shinigami realm.
@Snailshroom Literally one of the very first scenes where they show Ryuk in Death Note he is eating an apple in the shinigami realm. He describes it like sand. That why he likes earth realm apples because they are juicy.
Well in the last chapters of manga, Ryuk explains that all humans go to MU (Nothingness) and there's no changing it. He was just messing with light in the first chapters/episodes. This concept actually alines with general idea behind the whole series - the most valuable thing at life is a game, the only ones happy in this world are those who escape boredom and routine, especially knowing that after life there is nothing.
The world had never seen kira killings prior to light , so it wouldn’t make sense personally id rather see light as a shinigami re tormenting the world with his chosen human , and N grown up trying to stop him
But in the last ep of death note it was a frame in which it was written that the owner of death note goes to a place called mu in different font. It was also written that the place mu means nothingness
@@AnimeFrenzy63 it also pointed out that the technicality is that there is no heaven or hell. so everyone goes there. It's not actually a punishment for using the notebook.
I mean no going to heaven or hell spunds like a limbo. The shinigami world is definitely a limbo. Ryuk refers to Light as "already an excellent shinigami". The note holders can get the eyes. There are tons of clues that they bevome shinigami. Even their "death" requires love and self sacrifice. I think when shinigami "die" they are just freed from their limbo to finally reincarnate or go to heaven or whatever.
Completely agree. And I like the idea that the shinigami can't be released from their existence until they love a human enough to sacrifice themselves. Light would have difficulty doing this, of course -- until realizing the futility of his existence -- and what if he did it to save Misa?
That isn't how it works. The anime didn't fully explain that rule. The truth is that heaven and hell don't exist in the world of death note. When a human dies they go to mu aka nothingness. Nothing exists beyond death.
It seems to be true. In season 2 opening there's a psychotic scene with Light as a human in the shinigami realm, so might that be an allusion to the ending?
Yknow what would be an absolutely amazing sequel. It would also be absolutely difficult to write but light shinigami slowly regaining his memories and eventually coming into conflict with other shinigami as well as eventually the shinigami king.
This, and the alternate ending where Light is punished in purgatory, (like all Death Note users), and has to suffer the pain and specific death of EVERY name he wrote in the Death Note (being killed in the same way as he wrote, only to come back to life, and so on, until he has gone through the hundreds and thousands of deaths) are two non-canonical, but totally head canon endings that I absolutely adore.
Purgatory would indicate that death note users can go to hell, and it’s been said several times that death note users go to neither Heaven nor hell when they die. So Light being punished in purgatory would not be something that happens, since he was a death note user.
I remember that little alternate ending. Would’ve been cool for like a part 3 with Light, Ryuk, and Misa trying to take down the Shinigami king. In that way Light could finally become a god.
There's a lot of truth to support this theory The fact that anyone who uses it won't go to heaven or hell The fact that when Light asks what will happen to him, he says he'll find out The Shinigami throw the apple to Ryuk the same way Light does The fact that the Shinigami is seemingly lacking eyes as a reference to Light never making the deal with Ryuk for the eyes The fact that we see so many Shinigamis but they bring in a completely new one for just the OVA The fact that the Shinigami leaves before Ryuk finishes the story as if he already knew the end The OVA ending with Ryuk indirectly talking to Light and then the next scene moves to this unnamed Shinigami just walking
Ok ok… hear me out…. I don’t know if there’s a theory like this out there already but this is all what I think. Again if there is a theory like this out there I’m not taking credit for it. So what if shinagami were really messed up, bad people like Light Yagami. Light had a twisted way of thinking when it came to justice. Near was the only one to call him out on simply being a type of sociopath with the crazy ability to kill those that didn’t fit his “hard working, good person” view. He believed himself as a chosen god and put the “burden” of killing types of criminals upon himself. Even Ryuk said he was a more worthy killer/shinagami than the ones he knew. So what if after he died he was chosen to become a shinagami by some unseen being. The reason I say this is because a shinagamis whole purpose is kind of lost and forgotten, but they know if their life spans run out something might happen to them. So to keep that from happening the keep taking human lives. Also it’s said their is more worlds than just the human world. So they take lives from different places with life there. ( I say this because when Ryuk said he dropped his Death note they asked where, he said the Human world, implying there are other worlds out there that they can take life from.) So there is a shinagami named Gealous. (I think that how you spell his name) He falls in love with a human girl and instead of killing he watches this human girl day by day until her time is supposed to run out. Once it’s her last day on earth he prevents her from dying by doing the opposite of just taking peoples lives for no reason and takes the life of someone to save another, the one Gealous loves, Misa. In doing so it cause him to turn into neither ash or rust and dies. So what if a shinagami is a bad person paying for their sins as a immortal being with no real purpose. In order to move on to the next life they must do an unselfish deed and doing so allows them to pass on from the shinagami world…. Hope that makes sense and you let this theory sink in….
@@branden2941 I dont think its that big of a deal for some people since the concept of heaven ,hell or afterlife has been fully proved ,but still,in anime where things are possible ,the viewers can get tricked into believing it
@Lee Jet first of all, cool name. Second of all, eternal oblivion hasn't been proven either. I'm not making a religious argument. Simply speaking, we were all born from a state of temporary oblivion. So why fear everlasting oblivion? Just because it's scary? We already know matter can not be destroyed and time is not perceived in unconscious states. I don't think it matters how long it would take for you to re-emerge. The eternality of oblivion seems to be an illusion generated by a mind that is trapped in ordinary human consciousness. -trapped by the illusion of time
This might not be Light, do you all remember Mello's friend who died after Kira's bodygaurd's shot him in the public? The Shinigami's clothes are the same as Mello's friend. So chances are this might not be Light at all, it might be Matt. The glasses that the Shinigami was wearing appears to be the same as Matt, so this might be him.
I was thinking the same thing, if Light became a God of Death and had his human memories he most certainly would kill Near and Matsuda and adding their life spans onto his own. There is still so much potential in the Death Note Universe.
@@x1heisenberg427 and then near would use the rule where if u kill someone to protect or save another human the Shinigami dies to prevent light from killing him (I'm not sure if it can be used this way so its just a guess)
“One who writes in the note will not go to heaven or hell” I think they just go to purgatory but in Light’s situation he became more than cursed. He became death itself. He clearly wasn’t the 1st to have the idea, he wouldn’t be the last
In Christian texts, especially Dante's "Divina Commedia" (the Divine Comedy), Purgatory is described as a temporary place for sinners who have changed themselves to purge their souls, before entering Heaven. It is a temporary place. Since it says "one who writes in the note *will not* go to heaven or hell", we can assume that this means that Light will *never* go to either. Since Purgatory is a temporary transition to then enter Heaven, I don't think that Light will be sent there.
Well, actually. Don't mean to sound like a nerd, but purgatory is connected to heaven. Its a safety net. you wont fall into hell, but as a soul, you have to work towards even again, by facing you're sentence. Its like prison and for whatever how long you're sentence to, you'll eventually get to heaven.
Ryuk mentioned he didnt care about light, he didnt care what happened he just wanted to see some exitment, hence why he was willing to kill light without remorse, rem loved misa, ryuk couldnt give a shit..
Yes you are correct, since he told light after showing himself, that he was bored and wanted entertainment. So he unpurpassly dropped the death note hoping some human would entertain him.
That means he would have no opposition as Kira. Not only is he unable to die (bar very few exceptions) but he is literally in another realm. Should he decide to keep his role as the god of the new world, no one would be able to find him.
At the end of relight 2 Ryuk says "But you weren't a god, at least not then Light" as he finishes his story to the unknown Shinigami and looks up to see that he'd walked off. Additionally in the series Ryuk tells Light that a human who has used the Deathnote can't go to heaven or hell he goes to "nothing" and at another point he refers to the Shinigami realm as "Mu" or Nothingness. So yes it is 100% canon that Deathnote wielders become Shinigami when they die.
I think that Death Note was narrated by Ryuk and he was telling Light Yagami's story like he's a hero to them... that's why we see this shot of this unnamed shinigami that's walking up the steps reflecting his final moments on that staircase. We can all pretty much assume that Light was NOT in fact, the shinigami walking, but a different shinigami that we may see later on when the Production team decides to continue Death Note with this Shinigami being the one in the next sequel. My heart is set on there being more to death note as there's so many plot holes and twists that weren't addressed in the main series. Plus, I really love this suspenseful feeling I get when I'm thinking light yagami will be figured out throughout the series only for there to be more and more juicy storytelling going on ❤😊
That’s a cool headcannon. Ryuk could be a former death note wielder and being a shinigami was the true punishment. Boredom feels like torture. Stuck. And your life depends on the death of mortals.
The way the shinigami walks is how Light did after he died, if you guys noticed, when Light was laughing in the scene he got caught in, his eyes were RED. And as we know, their eyes are special in a way to see lifespans. Maybe that was a clue to Light becoming a god of death. It would also explain why the population is so low bc there aren’t many death note users. And the king of shinigami, that could possibly be the og god, meaning that either the king killed the most ppl, or he just appeared like Zeus or Hades. The king might have dropped a death note and started this whole thing. Light goes to neither heaven or hell, only in the middle. Hell is for bad ppl, heaven is for the good. But a person who’s killed people? You’d think they’d go to hell, so why didn’t death note users go to hell too? I believe it is because, We know Light lost his memories and gained them back. During that duration, he acted normal, he had no god complex or anything. You’d think as he got older, he became more ‘godly’ and started thinking of himself as a higher being if that behavior was truly in his blood. I think Kira is a curse placed on Light, that will forever sentence him to a place of nothing. And him having the willpower to kill someone? Over 280,000 people? Yeah, you’d go to hell. But Light won’t, maybe something of the death note is keeping him from going to hell. Ryuk mentioned that Light makes a really good shinigami, was he implying that he’d become one? It’s possible that the king of shinigamis had only chosen a few people to turn into shinigamis, maybe the ones who used the death note once or twice were sent to literally darkness, nothing. But light had potential to be a god of death, and now he is. They are called gods of death for a reason, Light’s killed over 200k ppl and I would def make him a god of death. I doubt the king has ever killed that many. Ppl with death notes and ppl who are genuinely not scared to kill or worried of their actions, are probably the shinigami. It seems Light and Ryuk are a little similar, they both enjoy death, Ryuk’s complimented Light on his killing and applauded him. But Ryuk is more.. sadistic? Light begged for help when he would die, Ryuk would probably laugh about death. Light’s the type to stab you in the back but ask you for help when he’s at his worst. Light became a shinigami and I have no doubt about it.
aren't the other shinigamy pretty psychopatic as well? I mean they even get killed if they dare to save a human life. Shinigami are meant only to kill people
@@llVIU ryuks the most psycho, the rest are basically just regular dudes who gotta kill someone once a century instead of go to work on Monday P much why Ryuk said light is already a better god of death than any of them
Yeah, In the Guidelines of the Death Note it is noted that "Who ever uses the death note by writing a name would not go to the hell nor heaven after their death" So he must have gone to the shinigami world
I think even regardless, it’s appropriate for Light to reincarnate into a shingami. I think past users of the deathnote never took it to lengths as far as Light did. Otherwise the series would’ve been pretty short.
U know, some part of me believes that Light planned this. It seemed very weird to see Light actually defeated at the end. This makes perfect sense though
You're missing the point of the story. The point was to show Light is just a human. He's not above everyone else. To see him die such a pathetic death was to show that he's no god
That shinigami is definitely Light.. the similitudes between them are so much specific, and another big evidence are the eyeglasses weared by the shinigami, and they are a clear reference to the fact that Light never did the Eye Swap with Ryuk to gain the shinigami's eyes...and thats just one of the several clues
@@matteomarku7177 Actually, the events of Death Note are heavily implied to be happening during Death Parade. Surprisingly large amounts of people dying is mentioned by multiple characters. Plus it's been confirmed that there isn't really an afterlife in Death Note, just a void. Which is exactly what Death Parade shows. You either reincarnate or are cast to the void.
@@michaelcarlton1484 It would be cool but unfortunately impossible to be the Light from DN (there could absolutely be a Light in Death parade it just can't be the same one) there's a rule in DN about any human that dies both immediately goes to Mu and that there is no way of coming back to life.
A lot of y’all seem to have selective listening when it comes to the rules of the death note Yes it does say the the user of a death note cannot go to heaven or hell, but what you neglect is another rule that says when they die they go to “MU” or nothingness, they don’t go to purgatory, they just stop existing Becoming a shinigami is definitely not nothingness because the shinigami world has a whole bunch of something in it Side note: ryuk also says in the manga that death is equal and all humans go to the same place: nothingness, regardless of death note use, ergo death note users can’t be shinigami
This is a really good theory in the series we see the gods of death not understand the death note to its fullest which will make sense if they were human beforehand as humans they would be the same as light in the beginning not knowing much about the notebook only thanks to ryuk he knew more about it
Its complicated but originally Ryuk went blind coz the shinigami king gave him punishment for breaking rules of shinigami realm. He was punished as he allowed Minoru Tanaka (the new kira or the A kira) to make death note public and allowed him toh sell it (Minoru was later killed by ryuk). So at the end of original death note after few years Light Yagami (the original Kira) was now converted into a shinigami in the Shinigami realm (as a death note user cannot go to heaven nor to hell) and started searching famous shinigami who spent most time on earth without getting bored (Ryuk) and eventually meet that shinigami who was Ryuk but blinded by shinigami king Ryuk was unable to recognize Light, Ryuk started telling him light's story. Since light knew his own story and its end where he had lost and died so he already left from there after throwing an apple at Ryuk just like old times. Ryuk recognized him then when he threw the apple the same way Light used to and finally mocked him taunted him by saying "you were never a god" but before listening this light has already left and now he wanted to visit earth again but this time not as a aod or a human but as a shiniaami and this is where started searching famous shinigami who spent most time on earth without getting bored (Ryuk) and eventually meet that shinigami who was Ryuk but blinded by shinigami king Ryuk was unable to recognize Light, Ryuk started telling him light's story. Since light knew his own story and its end where he had lost and died so he already left from there after throwing an apple at Ryuk just like old times. Ryuk recognized him then when he threw the apple the same way Light used to and finally mocked him ,taunted him by saying "you were never a god" but before listening this light has already left and now he wanted to visit earth again but this time not as a god or a human but as a shinigami and this is where death note actually ended
after light wanted ryuk to take his side, ryuk knew that there was no longer any entertainment to be had in light as light thought that ryuk would help him or act as support, when in reality, ryuk never would have came out from his role as a spectator if light didn’t die here
I think all the Shinigami were previously a death note owner and each of them are from different periods, one seems to be an Aztec warrior the other a golden skull of medieval times, Ryuk has ear piercings and he seems goth so he shouldn't have been on the Shinigami realm for a long time, he was the previous owner so he probably was alive during the 60s to 90s. And if that's Light of course he has a suit because he always dressed in a way that made him look intelligent. I think the creator of Death note has said that that Shinigami isn't Light but of course he isn't Light was his past life now he is just another Shinigami but still he also knew that Ryuk loved apples maybe the other Shinigami told them that but I like to think that the Shinigami knew that already maybe he doesn't remember why he knows that Ryuk loves apples but maybe he remembers Him pretty well and for that reason he asks Ryuk to know the full story of Light Yagami because he wants to remember how he was on his past life.
@@Kabu01. if he do, he would have the Shinigami King love at least 1 human, and make the King tribute himself to save the person, otherwise, the King would not detronize by himself.
I've considered it canon for so long cause it fits soooo well. Both Rem & Ryuk already called him a shinigami/past a shinigami and it fits beautifully with the no heaven or hell thing. Plus it gives people who had a good idea for the death note, not just psychos, a chance to be actual gods of death that surpassed humanity.
I also thought what if the shinigamis are the people who used the death note but i didn't thought that it was possible because i forgot about the shinigami's population being low. Also i sometimes think what if there's a plot twist ant that is ryuk is the shinigami king.
@@_PsyChoPaThiCX.___. no worries, from what I remember L never wrote a name in an actual death note only a fake one however he did touch a Death Note being able to see the Shinigami
"Death note usere will not see heaven or hell". Shinigamis don't see either too. I don't think the souls of the users would just vanish. That quote sounded more like a threat of existing and not making it to either aftelife. Forever stuck in the void in between
Literally look up the rules and you'd know this is nonsense: Once a name has been written into the death note, nothing can be done to avoid that person's death All humans, without exception will eventually die When they die, the place they go is Mu (nothingness) Once dead, they can never be brought back to life And to those thinking Mu and shinigami realm are the same, there is a rule that clearly states "a shinigami who brought the death note to the human world cannot return to the shinigami realm unless they kill the first owner of that death note. The few exceptions to this rule are-" The fact that the rules specify "shinigami realm" here means that Mu and the shinigami realm are different
On the topic of Mu though, "nothingness" is not a good translation. I feel like them adding that in the English releases of the series is very misleading. Religious themes being very strong in the DN anime/manga, with Buddhism also having a pretty strong influence on the series. The original run of the manga having 108 chapters, which is a very significant number in Buddhism. As for nothingness, the closest to that is Nirvana, but even then there really is no such thing as true nothingness in Buddhism. As for Mu, Mu is basically to think differently, to move beyond conventional concepts and to discover insight.
@@EBee92 although I do agree with the heavy use of symbolism including chapter 108 (something that Tsugumi ohba himself affirmed in volume 13 HTR), I don't think it's misleading and the idea of nothingness was heavily implied in the moments leading up to light's death. The first case of this (although not that convincing) is Ryuk stating that heaven and hell don't exist. Everyone goes to the same place when they die as death is equal. The reason I stated that it isn't *that* convincing is because no heaven or hell doesn't automatically mean nothingness The second case are the two pages after light's death. Throughout all of death note, the last page of a chapter is either always blacked out or has rules on it, in chapter 107, there are three end of chapter pages. 2 completely blacked out which led me to the interpretation of where light went after he died (nowhere) followed by a third page mentioning "when they die, the place they go is mu(nothingness)". You could interpret the blacked out pages as what light *saw* when he died but the fact that the nothingness rule was craftly placed right after those pages doesn't seem like a coincidence
He probably wouldn't, since now he has to be part of fate. And going against fate would end his second chance of "living" Thats what happened to the 2 shinigamis with Lisa. The love they had for Lisa made them blind and go against fate itself
Yes Very intelligent, but also flawed. like the ability to feel emotions, and to emphasize. He was still sick in the brain, even tho he had a good motive for when he first used the death note
I like the theory that Light was punished by having to experience death in the same way as every name that he wrote in the book 1000 times until he became a shinigami. It really makes sense when you think about why none of the shinigami want to write names
Yea i guess since its non canon its okay to give fans some fanservice and satisfaction. Kinda like code geass r3 where lelouch was alive. And shirley was alive and cornelia let euphys death go to help lelouch
Ryuk’s former life as a human is interesting. Ryuk sought entertainment more than anything. Though I can imagine him being caught Ryuk could have had the entertainment of being chased by a detective. With death note users becoming paranoid it’d be cool to see
That would be quite interesting but I sadly don’t think that’s true. If you reed the rules of the book (which are expressed before and after ad-breaks) there is nothing after a person dies. After a person dies they will experience nothing but complete void. If I remember correctly it says that this is the case for note users as well. Let me know what you guys think!
I was JUST reading the manga and first, Light said "if I kept cutting deals on eyes and wings and stuff next thing I know I'd be a real shinigami myself... that would be pretty interesting, too." To which Ryuk replied "don't worry, Light. even without doing that... you're already a fine shinigami" "But don't lump me together with you guys, I'm using [it] as a human FOR human beings" Hmm.... Pretty big foreshadowing possibility IMO could totally spin off into a series where he's a shinigami and drops a note himself... Ugh I'd love it
No man, if I remember correctly, Ryuki once warned Light that the users and victims of death note, will not end up in heaven nor hell when they died. Their souls get erased entirely from existence. It is the worse kind of death where only nothingness awaits them.
I used to believe this for a couple of days, but in one of the scenes where it shows a "How to use it" it does say that death note users go to absolute nothingness when they die. Even the shinigami realm is SOMETHING, despite its rot.
Okay kid in the beginning of death note ryuk says something about neither going to heaven or the other place which strongly implies that he becomes a Shinigami
The reason why the shinigami didn't tell Misa that her name would be written in her death note is because she cared so much for Misa that it would have killed the shinigami as well, either way.
He didn't seem to remember being Light though. Which I found interesting. He could never continue on the way he had before. No seeking revenge or anything. That's a neat ending to this character.
I dont think thats Light. I just think the whole point of the end is that the whole series... all events, deaths, etc.... amounted to nothing more than an "amusing story" to tell. It shows how insignificant the events that happened are to the Shinigami and how, if the new Shinigami gets bored... hes most likely to repeat the whole thing on a new victim for the lolz
I think that there's a certain point on where people who use the death note become shinigamis. I mean there's a specific number goal that makes the persons soul into shinigami. Direct and indirect, light killed people. He killed thousands using the notebook and using the guy with glasses at the end would make him indirectly responsible as he's the one who's giving the go ahead to kill the people. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy with glasses was also turned into a shinigami as he wrote a full page every day for a year or few months. That would match or be second to lights body count.
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Hey so the theories are all good and all but why don't people just ask the Creator if it's true or not because that would clear it up but nobody asked those questions
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if that theory was true that'd mean ryuk used to be a death note owner as well, and that would be a cool spinoff to see, it'd be like a sort of ryuk backstory as well lol
It won't happen the anime is too old sadly but still it's one of the best
@@fushhiii the rights are still being leased. The original owners don’t own it anymore according to international trademarks 🙄.. business is getting too big. I think Netflix holds the rights at the moment. It would be a fun show though
There for sure will be spin offs someday.
Just look at the avatar the last airbender franchise, it’s gonna be the next stranger things.
Death note literally has the same potential as avatar has
Imagine apples are just like drugs for him
Ryuk used it be a simple man with simple interests. Then he got honked in the head by a magic book
"Their clothes are similar"
Shinigami:*gangster pirate*
"They walk the same"
Like the time he got shot
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@@guywholikes2startawarRin my ballz.
I have read all the mangas + the epilogue and light never turns into a shinigami@@GHopper-uf7mt
Their walking style are same. Light walks like that after getting shot
lmaoo
Ya he is saying true
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Ryuk literally says to him "you were not a god" as if hes speaking to light
When?
@@psk5849 just before the other shinigami(light) leaves he says"no light you were not actually a god back then you were...something else"
@@nonamebrotha just look up death note relight there's alot of videos of thats scene
@@nonamebrothahe was just talking to himself, and light when he said that
WERE
I honestly like the idea that all former owners of the death book are humans that have turned into shinigami it kind of rolls into that whole idea that you don't get to go to heaven or hell
Well in the last chapters of manga, Ryuk explains that all humans go to MU (Nothingness) and there's no changing it. He was just messing with light in the first chapters/episodes. This concept actually alines with general idea behind the whole series - the most valuable thing at life is a game, the only ones happy in this world are those who escape boredom and routine, especially knowing that after life there is nothing.
@@yandere5094 there a theory on the internet that saying Deathnote and Death Parade are connected. If that the case, then there are 2 normal path for human souls: reincarnation or nothingness abyss. Another way is probably becoming a staff in the judging tower or a shinigami
Bro became Dark Yagami.
bro became shadow nogami
Bad Ending Friend. 😂
it would be really cool if it was confirmed light became a shinigami. In a way he does become a god
However do you realize the repercussions of this? Light as a shinigami with a goal to punish criminals, the death note and completely immune to everything unless he loves somebody which he would not do... He could proceed to kill criminals as Kira and now nobody can stop him.
@@dmitriy4708 holy shit
@@dmitriy4708 The only way for that to work is if all the shinigami who used the Death Note in their human forms, would forget all their memories that were related to their human lives. As Ryuk said in Death Note, he pointed out that shinigami don't even know why they exist and what their purpose really is other than to kill people to extend their life span. So it would make sense that if light did turn into a shinigami, he would have forgotten all his memories from his human life. But for some reason, has a drive to go to the human world. Who knows. Maybe he could hand it to somebody and try to copy Ryuk. And on the inside, has the feeling of wanting to help Kira 2.0.
@@overcast1725 if that man got his memory back once he can do it again
Logically speaking even if he doesn't regain his memory he would be smart enough to realise he was Kira
@@meriewanderer it's over time that he would figure it out. He's Kira. Again, even if he did find out, I'm pretty sure he would question if it's true or not since he has no recollection of his past. But yeah I do see your point and I do agree with you to some extent. And as far as the plot goes over time, he would soon start to realize that he was Kira.
I was think that this is what ryuk meant by no haven or hell because your turning into a shinagami
into a realm of nothingness is where shinigamis lived in
Even at the end of the manga, ryuk inforces the statement that deathnote useres can't go to heaven or hell
No ryuk said he would either go to hell or heaven if he dies but he will never know
Well ryuk can already Comfirmed that Light can be a fine shinagami already
Well this is noncanon so it's still a very convincing theory
@GigaCat read the chapter when light is killed by ryuk again and you will see thst is incorrect
@@Mysterious....... he said he would NEITHER go to heaven or hell. I have the manga in front of me 😅 page 22 (black version) Ryuk said "don't think that any human who's used the death note can go to heaven or hell." 😉💖
I saw a post talking about the theory that light turn into a shinigami a very long time ago. And on that post, they said some thing that convinced me that the theory was true. Basically the post said that
Thematically for the story it makes total sense for him to become a shinigami. I mean think about it. He’s so obsessed with power and the notebook and wanting to be able to control life and death, and he finally has all of that in a permanent irreversible way. It’s his book now. No one can take it from him. And he has the eyes. Except now he can’t use it to take over the world like he wanted to. He’s in another dimension where he’ll never be able to get credit for being god of the New World like he wanted. He’s immortal so in some ways he is a God, but not quite in the way that would stroke his ego. It’s like he’s so close to his goal, and he has so many of the things that he needed throughout the series but he’ll never be satisfied, and now he can only use the book to prolong his life, but never to achieve his goals. And he will be constantly miserable. That’s a pretty fitting end for someone like him.
That's just still a theory and the writer never claims it to be canon. For what I'm understand from that scene that new shinigami want to be like Ryuk, explore human world. He offered an apple as a trade off or payment to tell a story because all shinigami love apple like Ryuk mentioned in early episode.
Writer confirmed there is no heaven or hell that's just Ryuk explaining to Light that when he dies it will be nothingness.
@taqiyukenji Him offering an apple showed that it was light, because only Light would know Ryuk likes apples, since there are none in the shinigami realm.
@Snailshroom Literally one of the very first scenes where they show Ryuk in Death Note he is eating an apple in the shinigami realm. He describes it like sand. That why he likes earth realm apples because they are juicy.
Well in the last chapters of manga, Ryuk explains that all humans go to MU (Nothingness) and there's no changing it. He was just messing with light in the first chapters/episodes. This concept actually alines with general idea behind the whole series - the most valuable thing at life is a game, the only ones happy in this world are those who escape boredom and routine, especially knowing that after life there is nothing.
Fun fact this ova was not made after but was launched with the original japanese release of deathnote and the scenes are found back in the manga
I wish it was released in America as a bonus feature
Or just national DVD release
ryuk as a pre shinigami human would break the internet
i wouldn't want to see that, showing too much of a mysterious character ruins the mystery
@@GoddessOfWhim2003 then close your eyes
The world had never seen kira killings prior to light , so it wouldn’t make sense personally id rather see light as a shinigami re tormenting the world with his chosen human , and N grown up trying to stop him
@@jonathanezell4825 r u duff or what lol they drop deathnote every thousand years or so
EVERYONE the biggest thing is that it OVA name is "ReLight"
The gunshots can be seen in that Shinigami's blazer too
Wait are you serious ?
Look also that when he died he was wearing a black jacket and a belt, and now look at the shinigami, he looks alike, right? The type of clothing? 😳
@@britley815 🤯
But in the last ep of death note it was a frame in which it was written that the owner of death note goes to a place called mu in different font. It was also written that the place mu means nothingness
@@AnimeFrenzy63 it also pointed out that the technicality is that there is no heaven or hell. so everyone goes there. It's not actually a punishment for using the notebook.
Light Yagami
Becomes a Shinigami
*the hardest drop people will ever hear*
I mean no going to heaven or hell spunds like a limbo. The shinigami world is definitely a limbo. Ryuk refers to Light as "already an excellent shinigami". The note holders can get the eyes. There are tons of clues that they bevome shinigami.
Even their "death" requires love and self sacrifice. I think when shinigami "die" they are just freed from their limbo to finally reincarnate or go to heaven or whatever.
Completely agree. And I like the idea that the shinigami can't be released from their existence until they love a human enough to sacrifice themselves. Light would have difficulty doing this, of course -- until realizing the futility of his existence -- and what if he did it to save Misa?
Dont forget that shinigami will also die if their "lifespan" run out because they didnt kill any human for too long.
That isn't how it works. The anime didn't fully explain that rule. The truth is that heaven and hell don't exist in the world of death note. When a human dies they go to mu aka nothingness. Nothing exists beyond death.
In the death note universe all humans go to mu after death which is basically just nothingness
I’m basically trying to say in death note there is no life after death
Light didn't die he became death itself(shinagami)
He became what he said he would become, A GOD, god of death to be exact.
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Everyone goes to nothingness according to the author, he said it himself in the last manga chapter
It seems to be true. In season 2 opening there's a psychotic scene with Light as a human in the shinigami realm, so might that be an allusion to the ending?
Season 2!?
Season 2? Or relight (whatever its called)
@@stefand439 he meant the second op I think
@@ms.pirateOn Netflix there are multiple seasons so yes, season 2
@@RoxasOnSummerVacationseason 2 doesnt exist bud. I have no idea what you're looking at.
Yknow what would be an absolutely amazing sequel. It would also be absolutely difficult to write but light shinigami slowly regaining his memories and eventually coming into conflict with other shinigami as well as eventually the shinigami king.
Why? They can't die unless they help humans. What's he gonna do? Talk the guy's ear off?
This, and the alternate ending where Light is punished in purgatory, (like all Death Note users), and has to suffer the pain and specific death of EVERY name he wrote in the Death Note (being killed in the same way as he wrote, only to come back to life, and so on, until he has gone through the hundreds and thousands of deaths) are two non-canonical, but totally head canon endings that I absolutely adore.
Purgatory would indicate that death note users can go to hell, and it’s been said several times that death note users go to neither Heaven nor hell when they die. So Light being punished in purgatory would not be something that happens, since he was a death note user.
that was a joke by ryuk.
he says later there is no hell or heaven.@@sentoisinevitable
so of course death notes dont go to hell because there is none
I remember that little alternate ending. Would’ve been cool for like a part 3 with Light, Ryuk, and Misa trying to take down the Shinigami king. In that way Light could finally become a god.
@@sentoisinevitable
Not if it just keeps cycling through the deaths non-stop so he's stuck in purgatory 🤔
There's a lot of truth to support this theory
The fact that anyone who uses it won't go to heaven or hell
The fact that when Light asks what will happen to him, he says he'll find out
The Shinigami throw the apple to Ryuk the same way Light does
The fact that the Shinigami is seemingly lacking eyes as a reference to Light never making the deal with Ryuk for the eyes
The fact that we see so many Shinigamis but they bring in a completely new one for just the OVA
The fact that the Shinigami leaves before Ryuk finishes the story as if he already knew the end
The OVA ending with Ryuk indirectly talking to Light and then the next scene moves to this unnamed Shinigami just walking
Ok ok… hear me out…. I don’t know if there’s a theory like this out there already but this is all what I think. Again if there is a theory like this out there I’m not taking credit for it. So what if shinagami were really messed up, bad people like Light Yagami. Light had a twisted way of thinking when it came to justice. Near was the only one to call him out on simply being a type of sociopath with the crazy ability to kill those that didn’t fit his “hard working, good person” view. He believed himself as a chosen god and put the “burden” of killing types of criminals upon himself. Even Ryuk said he was a more worthy killer/shinagami than the ones he knew. So what if after he died he was chosen to become a shinagami by some unseen being. The reason I say this is because a shinagamis whole purpose is kind of lost and forgotten, but they know if their life spans run out something might happen to them. So to keep that from happening the keep taking human lives. Also it’s said their is more worlds than just the human world. So they take lives from different places with life there. ( I say this because when Ryuk said he dropped his Death note they asked where, he said the Human world, implying there are other worlds out there that they can take life from.) So there is a shinagami named Gealous. (I think that how you spell his name) He falls in love with a human girl and instead of killing he watches this human girl day by day until her time is supposed to run out. Once it’s her last day on earth he prevents her from dying by doing the opposite of just taking peoples lives for no reason and takes the life of someone to save another, the one Gealous loves, Misa. In doing so it cause him to turn into neither ash or rust and dies. So what if a shinagami is a bad person paying for their sins as a immortal being with no real purpose. In order to move on to the next life they must do an unselfish deed and doing so allows them to pass on from the shinagami world…. Hope that makes sense and you let this theory sink in….
Why am I so relieved?!
@@leejet4730 yea I love light
@Lee Jet or the concept of eternal annihilation is a bit much, even for a psychopath like light
@@branden2941 I dont think its that big of a deal for some people since the concept of heaven ,hell or afterlife has been fully proved ,but still,in anime where things are possible ,the viewers can get tricked into believing it
@@leejet4730 :3
@Lee Jet first of all, cool name. Second of all, eternal oblivion hasn't been proven either. I'm not making a religious argument. Simply speaking, we were all born from a state of temporary oblivion. So why fear everlasting oblivion? Just because it's scary? We already know matter can not be destroyed and time is not perceived in unconscious states. I don't think it matters how long it would take for you to re-emerge. The eternality of oblivion seems to be an illusion generated by a mind that is trapped in ordinary human consciousness. -trapped by the illusion of time
This might not be Light, do you all remember Mello's friend who died after Kira's bodygaurd's shot him in the public? The Shinigami's clothes are the same as Mello's friend. So chances are this might not be Light at all, it might be Matt. The glasses that the Shinigami was wearing appears to be the same as Matt, so this might be him.
I'd love to see light come back to earth as a shinigami
Forgot to mention he gave Ryuk an apple after asking him to tell his story. He knew Ryuk loves apples.
Light would go back to earth and kill near lmao
That, or he just learned his lesson, and taken the responsibility as shinigami, because he gotten the second chance of "living"
I was thinking the same thing, if Light became a God of Death and had his human memories he most certainly would kill Near and Matsuda and adding their life spans onto his own.
There is still so much potential in the Death Note Universe.
@@ms.pirate he did nothing wrong
@@x1heisenberg427 and then near would use the rule where if u kill someone to protect or save another human the Shinigami dies to prevent light from killing him (I'm not sure if it can be used this way so its just a guess)
@@x1heisenberg427 and yh ur right there's still a lot left in the dn universe
So that's his perfect victory
“One who writes in the note will not go to heaven or hell” I think they just go to purgatory but in Light’s situation he became more than cursed. He became death itself. He clearly wasn’t the 1st to have the idea, he wouldn’t be the last
In Christian texts, especially Dante's "Divina Commedia" (the Divine Comedy), Purgatory is described as a temporary place for sinners who have changed themselves to purge their souls, before entering Heaven. It is a temporary place.
Since it says "one who writes in the note *will not* go to heaven or hell", we can assume that this means that Light will *never* go to either. Since Purgatory is a temporary transition to then enter Heaven, I don't think that Light will be sent there.
@@gaopinghu7332 well the show, what I’m referencing says what I said. 🤷 if we are going of something religious I could bring up a few fun ones
@@igle1 hmm... But how and why do they go to heaven.
Well, actually. Don't mean to sound like a nerd, but purgatory is connected to heaven. Its a safety net. you wont fall into hell, but as a soul, you have to work towards even again, by facing you're sentence. Its like prison and for whatever how long you're sentence to, you'll eventually get to heaven.
@@gaopinghu7332 yes you perfectly explained better than me
Ryuk mentioned he didnt care about light, he didnt care what happened he just wanted to see some exitment, hence why he was willing to kill light without remorse, rem loved misa, ryuk couldnt give a shit..
Yes you are correct, since he told light after showing himself, that he was bored and wanted entertainment. So he unpurpassly dropped the death note hoping some human would entertain him.
That means he would have no opposition as Kira. Not only is he unable to die (bar very few exceptions) but he is literally in another realm. Should he decide to keep his role as the god of the new world, no one would be able to find him.
Light tryna play 5d chess and get his memories back💀
At the end of relight 2 Ryuk says "But you weren't a god, at least not then Light" as he finishes his story to the unknown Shinigami and looks up to see that he'd walked off.
Additionally in the series Ryuk tells Light that a human who has used the Deathnote can't go to heaven or hell he goes to "nothing" and at another point he refers to the Shinigami realm as "Mu" or Nothingness. So yes it is 100% canon that Deathnote wielders become Shinigami when they die.
I think that Death Note was narrated by Ryuk and he was telling Light Yagami's story like he's a hero to them... that's why we see this shot of this unnamed shinigami that's walking up the steps reflecting his final moments on that staircase. We can all pretty much assume that Light was NOT in fact, the shinigami walking, but a different shinigami that we may see later on when the Production team decides to continue Death Note with this Shinigami being the one in the next sequel.
My heart is set on there being more to death note as there's so many plot holes and twists that weren't addressed in the main series. Plus, I really love this suspenseful feeling I get when I'm thinking light yagami will be figured out throughout the series only for there to be more and more juicy storytelling going on ❤😊
he walks like light yagami tho
He walks the same way light did before his death
"Who knows. That could be pretty interesting."
That’s a cool headcannon. Ryuk could be a former death note wielder and being a shinigami was the true punishment. Boredom feels like torture. Stuck. And your life depends on the death of mortals.
The way the shinigami walks is how Light did after he died, if you guys noticed, when Light was laughing in the scene he got caught in, his eyes were RED. And as we know, their eyes are special in a way to see lifespans. Maybe that was a clue to Light becoming a god of death. It would also explain why the population is so low bc there aren’t many death note users. And the king of shinigami, that could possibly be the og god, meaning that either the king killed the most ppl, or he just appeared like Zeus or Hades. The king might have dropped a death note and started this whole thing.
Light goes to neither heaven or hell, only in the middle. Hell is for bad ppl, heaven is for the good.
But a person who’s killed people? You’d think they’d go to hell, so why didn’t death note users go to hell too? I believe it is because, We know Light lost his memories and gained them back. During that duration, he acted normal, he had no god complex or anything. You’d think as he got older, he became more ‘godly’ and started thinking of himself as a higher being if that behavior was truly in his blood. I think Kira is a curse placed on Light, that will forever sentence him to a place of nothing. And him having the willpower to kill someone? Over 280,000 people? Yeah, you’d go to hell. But Light won’t, maybe something of the death note is keeping him from going to hell.
Ryuk mentioned that Light makes a really good shinigami, was he implying that he’d become one? It’s possible that the king of shinigamis had only chosen a few people to turn into shinigamis, maybe the ones who used the death note once or twice were sent to literally darkness, nothing. But light had potential to be a god of death, and now he is.
They are called gods of death for a reason, Light’s killed over 200k ppl and I would def make him a god of death. I doubt the king has ever killed that many. Ppl with death notes and ppl who are genuinely not scared to kill or worried of their actions, are probably the shinigami.
It seems Light and Ryuk are a little similar, they both enjoy death, Ryuk’s complimented Light on his killing and applauded him. But Ryuk is more.. sadistic? Light begged for help when he would die, Ryuk would probably laugh about death. Light’s the type to stab you in the back but ask you for help when he’s at his worst.
Light became a shinigami and I have no doubt about it.
Light's lifespan as shinigami would be forever since he would kill half of the world population 😂
Let's give the psychopathic immortality lmao
aren't the other shinigamy pretty psychopatic as well? I mean they even get killed if they dare to save a human life. Shinigami are meant only to kill people
@@llVIU ryuks the most psycho, the rest are basically just regular dudes who gotta kill someone once a century instead of go to work on Monday
P much why Ryuk said light is already a better god of death than any of them
Well then Light reached his goal
Yeah, In the Guidelines of the Death Note it is noted that "Who ever uses the death note by writing a name would not go to the hell nor heaven after their death" So he must have gone to the shinigami world
And he’s not wearing the goggles representing that light never made the eye deal 👁️
In the Japanese live action L used the death note and i find it interesting that he could have also become a Shinigami in that version of the story
what’s more insane is that the Simpsons parody pays homage to this by turning Lisa into a shinigami
his name still contains "gami" Yagami and now Shiningami
That means light's dad is also in the shinigami world. It would be interesting to see how weilded that power
I think even regardless, it’s appropriate for Light to reincarnate into a shingami. I think past users of the deathnote never took it to lengths as far as Light did. Otherwise the series would’ve been pretty short.
U know, some part of me believes that Light planned this. It seemed very weird to see Light actually defeated at the end. This makes perfect sense though
You're missing the point of the story. The point was to show Light is just a human. He's not above everyone else. To see him die such a pathetic death was to show that he's no god
And there is another detail that is only light knows that Ryuk like apple
That shinigami is definitely Light.. the similitudes between them are so much specific, and another big evidence are the eyeglasses weared by the shinigami, and they are a clear reference to the fact that Light never did the Eye Swap with Ryuk to gain the shinigami's eyes...and thats just one of the several clues
I’ve been saying this bruh, and ryuk literally says “you were not a god” and the shinigami has gun shots, before light got shot
Light also appears as a cameo in Death Parade where the only options in the afterlife are having your soul reincarnate or thrown into the void.
that is just easter egg, not canon
@@matteomarku7177 Actually, the events of Death Note are heavily implied to be happening during Death Parade. Surprisingly large amounts of people dying is mentioned by multiple characters. Plus it's been confirmed that there isn't really an afterlife in Death Note, just a void. Which is exactly what Death Parade shows. You either reincarnate or are cast to the void.
@@michaelcarlton1484 The shinigami world is also a world of nothingness
@@matteomarku7177 It's not. The world of nothingness is called Mu and is stated where every human goes without exception.
@@michaelcarlton1484 It would be cool but unfortunately impossible to be the Light from DN (there could absolutely be a Light in Death parade it just can't be the same one) there's a rule in DN about any human that dies both immediately goes to Mu and that there is no way of coming back to life.
A lot of y’all seem to have selective listening when it comes to the rules of the death note
Yes it does say the the user of a death note cannot go to heaven or hell, but what you neglect is another rule that says when they die they go to “MU” or nothingness, they don’t go to purgatory, they just stop existing
Becoming a shinigami is definitely not nothingness because the shinigami world has a whole bunch of something in it
Side note: ryuk also says in the manga that death is equal and all humans go to the same place: nothingness, regardless of death note use, ergo death note users can’t be shinigami
This is a really good theory in the series we see the gods of death not understand the death note to its fullest which will make sense if they were human beforehand as humans they would be the same as light in the beginning not knowing much about the notebook only thanks to ryuk he knew more about it
Its complicated but originally Ryuk went blind coz the shinigami king gave him punishment for breaking rules of shinigami realm.
He was punished as he allowed Minoru Tanaka (the new kira or the A kira) to make death note public and allowed him toh sell it (Minoru was later killed by ryuk). So at the end of original death note after few years Light Yagami (the original Kira) was now converted into a shinigami in the Shinigami realm (as a death note user cannot go to heaven nor to hell) and started searching famous shinigami who spent most time on earth without getting bored (Ryuk) and eventually meet that shinigami who was Ryuk but blinded by shinigami king Ryuk was unable to recognize Light, Ryuk started telling him light's story.
Since light knew his own story and its end where he had lost and died so he already left from there after throwing an apple at Ryuk just like old times.
Ryuk recognized him then when he threw the apple the same way Light used to and finally mocked him taunted him by saying "you were never a god" but before listening this light has already left and now he wanted to visit earth again but this time not as a aod or a human but as a shiniaami and this is where started searching famous shinigami who spent most time on earth without getting bored (Ryuk) and eventually meet that shinigami who was Ryuk but blinded by shinigami king Ryuk was unable to recognize Light, Ryuk started telling him light's story.
Since light knew his own story and its end where he had lost and died so he already left from there after throwing an apple at Ryuk just like old times.
Ryuk recognized him then when he threw the apple the same way Light used to and finally mocked him ,taunted him by saying "you were never a god" but before listening this light has already left and now he wanted to visit earth again but this time not as a god or a human but as a shinigami and this is where death note actually ended
"Light Yagami becomes a Shinigami"
**Proceeds to present a sigma edit**
after light wanted ryuk to take his side, ryuk knew that there was no longer any entertainment to be had in light as light thought that ryuk would help him or act as support, when in reality, ryuk never would have came out from his role as a spectator if light didn’t die here
Ryuk says in death note that humans who use the death note face a fate far worse than death and that could mean turning into a shimigami
I think all the Shinigami were previously a death note owner and each of them are from different periods, one seems to be an Aztec warrior the other a golden skull of medieval times, Ryuk has ear piercings and he seems goth so he shouldn't have been on the Shinigami realm for a long time, he was the previous owner so he probably was alive during the 60s to 90s. And if that's Light of course he has a suit because he always dressed in a way that made him look intelligent. I think the creator of Death note has said that that Shinigami isn't Light but of course he isn't Light was his past life now he is just another Shinigami but still he also knew that Ryuk loved apples maybe the other Shinigami told them that but I like to think that the Shinigami knew that already maybe he doesn't remember why he knows that Ryuk loves apples but maybe he remembers Him pretty well and for that reason he asks Ryuk to know the full story of Light Yagami because he wants to remember how he was on his past life.
Ryuk did tell Light he now had something to look forward to after he dies in Episode 1.
That means he is the god of the new world! Meaning he can still create the PERFECT WORLD!
I've never been so happy before
Welp, in that case he should face The shinigami's king
@@Kabu01. if he do, he would have the Shinigami King love at least 1 human, and make the King tribute himself to save the person, otherwise, the King would not detronize by himself.
Light will be a shinigami for the rest of the eternity
I've considered it canon for so long cause it fits soooo well. Both Rem & Ryuk already called him a shinigami/past a shinigami and it fits beautifully with the no heaven or hell thing.
Plus it gives people who had a good idea for the death note, not just psychos, a chance to be actual gods of death that surpassed humanity.
It's a cool theory, however, it's unfortunately wrong. All humans in deathnote don't go to an afterlife they just become nothingness.
It would give everyone chills if light (as shinigami) starts the sequel
I also thought what if the shinigamis are the people who used the death note but i didn't thought that it was possible because i forgot about the shinigami's population being low. Also i sometimes think what if there's a plot twist ant that is ryuk is the shinigami king.
in that case L is also a shinigami right now
Didn’t he write in a fake Death Note..? Not the real one. He only touched a real one no?
@@AMKmusic96 can't remember clearly. I watched it 7 years ago
@@_PsyChoPaThiCX.___. no worries, from what I remember L never wrote a name in an actual death note only a fake one however he did touch a Death Note being able to see the Shinigami
That totally makes sense coz it is also said that the person who uses the death note won't enter hell or heaven so only one place is left 😳😳
“Light yagami becomes a shinigami”
_music drop and 3 seconds of unanswered silence_
If that theory is true then L might too be a shinigami
"Death note usere will not see heaven or hell".
Shinigamis don't see either too.
I don't think the souls of the users would just vanish. That quote sounded more like a threat of existing and not making it to either aftelife. Forever stuck in the void in between
if this was true, means L and watari did become a shinigami aswell? since rem wrote both of their names in her death note
Neither of them used the death note.
Light end was just too much for me 😢 the way he broke and lost his mind, man.
Literally look up the rules and you'd know this is nonsense:
Once a name has been written into the death note, nothing can be done to avoid that person's death
All humans, without exception will eventually die
When they die, the place they go is Mu (nothingness)
Once dead, they can never be brought back to life
And to those thinking Mu and shinigami realm are the same, there is a rule that clearly states "a shinigami who brought the death note to the human world cannot return to the shinigami realm unless they kill the first owner of that death note. The few exceptions to this rule are-"
The fact that the rules specify "shinigami realm" here means that Mu and the shinigami realm are different
On the topic of Mu though, "nothingness" is not a good translation. I feel like them adding that in the English releases of the series is very misleading.
Religious themes being very strong in the DN anime/manga, with Buddhism also having a pretty strong influence on the series. The original run of the manga having 108 chapters, which is a very significant number in Buddhism.
As for nothingness, the closest to that is Nirvana, but even then there really is no such thing as true nothingness in Buddhism. As for Mu, Mu is basically to think differently, to move beyond conventional concepts and to discover insight.
@@EBee92 although I do agree with the heavy use of symbolism including chapter 108 (something that Tsugumi ohba himself affirmed in volume 13 HTR), I don't think it's misleading and the idea of nothingness was heavily implied in the moments leading up to light's death.
The first case of this (although not that convincing) is Ryuk stating that heaven and hell don't exist. Everyone goes to the same place when they die as death is equal. The reason I stated that it isn't *that* convincing is because no heaven or hell doesn't automatically mean nothingness
The second case are the two pages after light's death. Throughout all of death note, the last page of a chapter is either always blacked out or has rules on it, in chapter 107, there are three end of chapter pages. 2 completely blacked out which led me to the interpretation of where light went after he died (nowhere) followed by a third page mentioning "when they die, the place they go is mu(nothingness)". You could interpret the blacked out pages as what light *saw* when he died but the fact that the nothingness rule was craftly placed right after those pages doesn't seem like a coincidence
If That Shinigami found out his past live was Light Yagami then... 💀
It would have been cool to watch light continuing to be kira after becoming a shinigami.
He probably wouldn't, since now he has to be part of fate. And going against fate would end his second chance of "living"
Thats what happened to the 2 shinigamis with Lisa. The love they had for Lisa made them blind and go against fate itself
I meant Misa, not Lisa. Sorry about that
@@ms.pirate I thought shinigami can kill anyone until they are kill "FOR" someone.
Light yagami the best character i have ever seen
same, he's the GOAT, like genuinely the best ever, a legend.
Yes Very intelligent, but also flawed. like the ability to feel emotions, and to emphasize. He was still sick in the brain, even tho he had a good motive for when he first used the death note
He wanted be a hero buy ended up as a villian 🙃
Must not have seen much then
I just herd this theory just now. It would've been so cool, tho! It can be a happy ending for those who like Light Yagami
And in the rules it says people who use it cant go to heaven or hell and the shinigami realm does seam like a bland in between
I like the theory that Light was punished by having to experience death in the same way as every name that he wrote in the book 1000 times until he became a shinigami. It really makes sense when you think about why none of the shinigami want to write names
I’m pretty sure at the end of the OVA the other Shinigami leaves before Ryuk finished the story and Ryuk even calls him Light
Yea i guess since its non canon its okay to give fans some fanservice and satisfaction. Kinda like code geass r3 where lelouch was alive. And shirley was alive and cornelia let euphys death go to help lelouch
Also ruok said from the start Light is worthy of being a shinagami
Even Ryuk said that Light was already a worthy Shinigami
They need to make Death note a franchise like Star wars. It’s still one of the best manga I’ve ever seen.
Ryuk’s former life as a human is interesting. Ryuk sought entertainment more than anything. Though I can imagine him being caught Ryuk could have had the entertainment of being chased by a detective. With death note users becoming paranoid it’d be cool to see
That would be quite interesting but I sadly don’t think that’s true. If you reed the rules of the book (which are expressed before and after ad-breaks) there is nothing after a person dies. After a person dies they will experience nothing but complete void. If I remember correctly it says that this is the case for note users as well. Let me know what you guys think!
I was JUST reading the manga and first, Light said "if I kept cutting deals on eyes and wings and stuff next thing I know I'd be a real shinigami myself... that would be pretty interesting, too."
To which Ryuk replied "don't worry, Light. even without doing that... you're already a fine shinigami"
"But don't lump me together with you guys, I'm using [it] as a human FOR human beings"
Hmm.... Pretty big foreshadowing possibility IMO could totally spin off into a series where he's a shinigami and drops a note himself... Ugh I'd love it
In the death note rules it has been written that the person who used a death note will not go to heaven nor hell.
Mannn, that is one of the most famous theories I liked
No man, if I remember correctly, Ryuki once warned Light that the users and victims of death note, will not end up in heaven nor hell when they died. Their souls get erased entirely from existence. It is the worse kind of death where only nothingness awaits them.
If that’s light then they should make season 2 out of it, light as shinigami guiding new Kira
I used to believe this for a couple of days, but in one of the scenes where it shows a "How to use it" it does say that death note users go to absolute nothingness when they die. Even the shinigami realm is SOMETHING, despite its rot.
I agree with this, but I see it more as a reincarnation, Light likely has no memory of his life as a human.
Okay kid in the beginning of death note ryuk says something about neither going to heaven or the other place which strongly implies that he becomes a Shinigami
The reason why the shinigami didn't tell Misa that her name would be written in her death note is because she cared so much for Misa that it would have killed the shinigami as well, either way.
In Death Note We Know That Person Who Uses Death Note Nither Goes To Heaven Or Earth So There Is Possibility That Death Note user becames shinigmi
Even name of the movie be is also proof death re- light re means reincarnate
He didn't seem to remember being Light though. Which I found interesting. He could never continue on the way he had before. No seeking revenge or anything. That's a neat ending to this character.
Does that mean he's still gonna become a God for this new world? 🤩🤩🥰🥰😍
No
I dont think thats Light.
I just think the whole point of the end is that the whole series... all events, deaths, etc.... amounted to nothing more than an "amusing story" to tell.
It shows how insignificant the events that happened are to the Shinigami and how, if the new Shinigami gets bored... hes most likely to repeat the whole thing on a new victim for the lolz
I think that there's a certain point on where people who use the death note become shinigamis. I mean there's a specific number goal that makes the persons soul into shinigami. Direct and indirect, light killed people. He killed thousands using the notebook and using the guy with glasses at the end would make him indirectly responsible as he's the one who's giving the go ahead to kill the people. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy with glasses was also turned into a shinigami as he wrote a full page every day for a year or few months. That would match or be second to lights body count.