I'm only DIY but I've done a fair bit of spreading - just finished my kitchen extension actually. I've had a tyzack 13" for ever but I broke it the other day so I'm getting a new trowel. Was considering getting a 14" as I don't think I would get on well with anything much bigger. You had very good results Eric. It's got me thinking 🤔
Once a longer trowel is worn in its lovely for troweling up, it doesn't take long to get used to, you can get more on the wall quicker and they leave far less trowel marks when applying the first coat
I've had a 20" an 18" a 16" and for the last 8years I've just used a 14" out of them all me an the 14 get on best, no wrist pain... I also don't skim 100m² a day any more either 🤷♂️🍻
Nice trowel Eric! I'd love to see what you think of the trowel I use, an 18 by 4-1/2 marshalltown or any brand that size You may find the 18 by 5 is too wide, You'll feel alot more strain through your wrist with that extra half inch width where you're having to curl your wrist to direct the pressure to the edge of the blade but with an 18 by 4-1/2 when you find your balance and the right angle you're able keep the wrist alot more straight derecting straight pressure from your palm, to the back of your handle straight through to the edge of the blade with very little strain on the wrist as you trowel. Hope this helps 👍🏼 You may be able to see in my videos how I balance the blade as I trowel I hardy need to grip my handle I just balance it on my back 3 fingers. And remember more angle = less strain!
Thanks Dan, sounds like bloody good advice, I wondered why you could get them narrower, now I know, I'll see how this one goes for a while now I've bought it 👌👍Thanks again mate, appreciate it
Oh wow so is that the actual reason why the trowels are manufactured narrower? I asked this question on one of the plastering groups on Facebook and I got all sorts of answers! The most common one being that the narrow blade is designed for sand and cement. I’d love to see your video on how you use the 18 x 4.5” trowel to prevent extra strain on your wrist. Kindly share a link. Thanks
i use and 18 x 4/12 and i agree, when laying on a flattening i feel very little pressue. My 16" nela is my least favorite trowel seems to cause far more wrist strain
I’ve just bought a nela 18 inch carbon, currently sat in vinegar. Surprisingly enough it didn’t feel heavy or stupidly big considering I use a 13 inch mt carbon.
@@ThePlastereryes mate, well 4.75. I sacked it off in the end and went with the concrete mt 18x4, use it instead of a flexi trowel now, used my Mirka sander to get the edges nice and sharp
I noticed you used it straight away whilst new yet it didn’t seem to drag or leave lines? I have a 14x 5 ox trowel. But leaves lines like hell. Would you say the best way to deal with this is, apply the finishing coat and let it take right up and then flatten? ( less chance of lines / dragging plaster off with blunt blade ) Thanks
@@omarismith3655 sorry, don't know how I missed that bit 😂 if you're just using a trowel for the whole process, apply first coat, leave to pick up a little font play with it, then water down any plaster you have left and use this for second coat, which you can then apply which should help you to flatten the plaster more, then don't touch until it's ready to spray some water on. You can only get lines out as the plaster starts to harden, the best plasterer in the world can't really get lines out of wet plaster
Great trowel but after laying in and start flattening it puts extra strain on the joints. Not for me and after 44 years plastering I want to carry on.!!!
I moved over to ox form marshaltown years ago and wouldn't go back.. 18 inch is way to big for me though! Just find it clumsy and dont see the point if you going to rule it with the speedskim.
Just curious to know why you moved to Ox from MT. I was a plasterers labourer many years ago (45). So I know a little bit, but so many things are different now and a lot easier by the looks of it. I have been doing bits for myself and decided on OX instead of MT.I was wondering if the extra cost would have been worth it?
I've just noticed I'm the same colour as the plaster🤣
I'm only DIY but I've done a fair bit of spreading - just finished my kitchen extension actually. I've had a tyzack 13" for ever but I broke it the other day so I'm getting a new trowel. Was considering getting a 14" as I don't think I would get on well with anything much bigger. You had very good results Eric. It's got me thinking 🤔
Once a longer trowel is worn in its lovely for troweling up, it doesn't take long to get used to, you can get more on the wall quicker and they leave far less trowel marks when applying the first coat
16 inch is perfect for most people mate
I've had a 20" an 18" a 16" and for the last 8years I've just used a 14" out of them all me an the 14 get on best, no wrist pain... I also don't skim 100m² a day any more either 🤷♂️🍻
Stick to a smaller trowel m8, it will wreck your wrists and shoulders toweling up with that
Nice trowel Eric!
I'd love to see what you think of the trowel I use, an 18 by 4-1/2 marshalltown or any brand that size
You may find the 18 by 5 is too wide,
You'll feel alot more strain through your wrist with that extra half inch width where you're having to curl your wrist to direct the pressure to the edge of the blade but with an 18 by 4-1/2 when you find your balance and the right angle you're able keep the wrist alot more straight derecting straight pressure from your palm, to the back of your handle straight through to the edge of the blade with very little strain on the wrist as you trowel. Hope this helps 👍🏼
You may be able to see in my videos how I balance the blade as I trowel I hardy need to grip my handle I just balance it on my back 3 fingers.
And remember more angle = less strain!
Thanks Dan, sounds like bloody good advice, I wondered why you could get them narrower, now I know, I'll see how this one goes for a while now I've bought it 👌👍Thanks again mate, appreciate it
Oh wow so is that the actual reason why the trowels are manufactured narrower?
I asked this question on one of the plastering groups on Facebook and I got all sorts of answers! The most common one being that the narrow blade is designed for sand and cement.
I’d love to see your video on how you use the 18 x 4.5” trowel to prevent extra strain on your wrist. Kindly share a link.
Thanks
i use and 18 x 4/12 and i agree, when laying on a flattening i feel very little pressue. My 16" nela is my least favorite trowel seems to cause far more wrist strain
I found the handle too taxing on my hand. Fair bit bigger I thought than the MT
it is a fair old size for sure but I've got fingers like sausages 🤣
Great video and a lovely job!
Thanks Paul 👍
I’ve just bought a nela 18 inch carbon, currently sat in vinegar. Surprisingly enough it didn’t feel heavy or stupidly big considering I use a 13 inch mt carbon.
Is it 5" across?
@@ThePlastereryes mate, well 4.75. I sacked it off in the end and went with the concrete mt 18x4, use it instead of a flexi trowel now, used my Mirka sander to get the edges nice and sharp
Are you still using the 18 inch ox, how you getting along with it?
@@bee8583 yes, but only for finish, it's a lot better now it's worn in 👍
I noticed you used it straight away whilst new yet it didn’t seem to drag or leave lines?
I have a 14x 5 ox trowel. But leaves lines like hell.
Would you say the best way to deal with this is, apply the finishing coat and let it take right up and then flatten? ( less chance of lines / dragging plaster off with blunt blade )
Thanks
It's a pre worn when new but still wasn't sharp enough for a wet trowel. It is now👍
Thanks for ignoring the latter half of my question… lol
@@omarismith3655 sorry, don't know how I missed that bit 😂 if you're just using a trowel for the whole process, apply first coat, leave to pick up a little font play with it, then water down any plaster you have left and use this for second coat, which you can then apply which should help you to flatten the plaster more, then don't touch until it's ready to spray some water on. You can only get lines out as the plaster starts to harden, the best plasterer in the world can't really get lines out of wet plaster
Will eventually be up in 4K
nice work
Cheers Bruce 👍
Erick did you give up on the plastic ribbed-edged trowel ?
The Carter 101?
@@ThePlasterer yes mate, I forgot the name of it.
That 18 inch trowel would have my wrist screaming 😱
I recently bought one of these a few weeks ago mate. Ain't had the chance to use it yet though 😂
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Omar suarez from scarface before he started working for Frank Lopez
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Great trowel but after laying in and start flattening it puts extra strain on the joints. Not for me and after 44 years plastering I want to carry on.!!!
Fair doos Bernard 👍
Couldn’t agree more Bernard day in day out with a 18” trowel no good for your body. 13” MT for me nice and light
@@John-gg7ud similar now John as as put on with 16” and trowel up with 14” both MT SS.
Have you give up on the carbons now Bernard ?
@@jasonrichardson7762 like to keep mixing it up mate so using the Kraft SS trowel for a change
That’s a whopper. Feels awkward sometimes just using my 16 inch flexi after laying on with a 13 inch carbon haha
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Try the NELA, excellent trowels!
Also a bigger bucket trowel would save you time loading gear on the hawk
👍must defo get a bigger scoop for the gear
@@ThePlasterer Refina do a great long handle bucket scoop.
Deve se muito boa👏👏
Don't know why people still do two coats though! One decent coat and use with sponge float saves time and better finish I think
I don't mind doing one good coat, I'm just not keen on sponging
One coat isn’t gonna get you over bumpy old walls, bad boarding etc
I moved over to ox form marshaltown years ago and wouldn't go back.. 18 inch is way to big for me though! Just find it clumsy and dont see the point if you going to rule it with the speedskim.
Yeah you have to work with whatever is most comfortable for you
Just curious to know why you moved to Ox from MT. I was a plasterers labourer many years ago (45). So I know a little bit, but so many things are different now and a lot easier by the looks of it. I have been doing bits for myself and decided on OX instead of MT.I was wondering if the extra cost would have been worth it?
I bought one for my apprentice and just loved the blade, its a little more worn in and has a slight more flex. So sold all marshalltown .