How 'water' became 'wooder', the evolution of the Philly accent

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  • @AbnerRengel
    @AbnerRengel 9 місяців тому +40

    I was not born or raised in the USA but I have always lived in Philly for the 8 years I have been here and one day when I was in DC I went to the market and asked for "wooder" and the clerk laughed at me saying that was the strongest Philly accent he had ever heard and I just felt so proud at that moment. Well I'm not a native english speaker but for me "water" is just "wooder" and it will always be that.
    GO BIRDS

  • @karlcx
    @karlcx 8 місяців тому +1

    seriously? literally everyone that speaks has an accent. no one get to be the 'default', or 'normal'. america didn't even invent english.

  • @rstdot
    @rstdot 7 місяців тому +6

    nobody ever talks about how white people get to define the accent of an area. Black Philadelphians don't have the same accent as white Philadelphians. Same for Chicago.

  • @mishael53
    @mishael53 11 місяців тому +27

    I haven’t been back to Philly for 30 years but watching this video, my accent came back in mere minutes 🤣🤣

    • @Christrulesall2
      @Christrulesall2 6 місяців тому +4

      Come back to philly and get your wooder ice, bruh🤣🤣

  • @Morrisseys7thFriend
    @Morrisseys7thFriend Рік тому +19

    My parents are from Buffalo, NY and therefore don't have a Philly accent. Some of my friends' parents did, and they also smoked, unlike my parents. So when I was young I legitimately thought that the Philly accent was a "smokers'" accent and all people in the US who smoked sounded like that.

  • @robynryan7473
    @robynryan7473 Рік тому +15

    I aint got an accent, you have an accent, classic! Thats our one defense and ill stick with it

  • @bbplay13
    @bbplay13 Рік тому +14

    I legit try to say "water" "correctly" and it just sounds wrong. I can somewhat say it "correctly" when I add bottle to it, but it still sounds off. Wooder till I die.

    • @arrowverselover100
      @arrowverselover100 Рік тому +2

      Yo, same. When I say "water" it sounds so weird. My sister constantly makes fun of me for saying "wooder." I lived in Philly until I was 6, while she has only ever lived in the suburbs. I don't do it on purpose. I don't even notice myself staying it most of the time, so much so that I asked for "wooder" at my college, and the guy kept saying "what?" over and over again, and I didn't get why, then someone behind him knew what I was asking and pointed me towards the "wooder," then I realized how I had pronounced it.

    • @dubaiedge
      @dubaiedge 10 місяців тому +1

      Honestly, that extra "t" in waTer takes so much effort, I'd really just rather not have to go through all that 😆

    • @dubaiedge
      @dubaiedge 10 місяців тому +3

      @@arrowverselover100 😂 that's happened to me so many times. WOODER! What do you not understand? WOODER! Then you have to mime drinking out of a cup.

    • @arrowverselover100
      @arrowverselover100 10 місяців тому +2

      @@dubaiedge Haha. I've experienced being made fun of for saying it like that more than anything. Only the once did the person not understand me. I only live an hour outside of Philly, so I imagine it's common to hear people say it like that. It'd be real interesting to go to the other side of the country and say it. I'm sure nobody would know what I'm saying.

    • @bloodieddeadman6.1.65
      @bloodieddeadman6.1.65 6 місяців тому

      Fr☠️☠️☠️

  • @been_rly_n2_paragliding_lately
    @been_rly_n2_paragliding_lately 11 місяців тому +7

    As far as unappealing accents are concerned, the Philly accent isn't bad at all imo. But I still have no idea how water became wooder like the title states lol, unless this is a clip from a longer video?

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 6 місяців тому

      Really. I hate it when videos tease like this. Was expecting etymology.

  • @omfgCantGetaUsername
    @omfgCantGetaUsername Рік тому +7

    Their right about water though. I can force myself to say "wahhhter" or towel, but it doesn't feel right saying it like that. It sounds preppy! I will always say wauder and tal.
    Funnily enough, I kid you not British folks are always trying to figure out my accent. Many times they don't think I'm American. I've gotten south African twice, and another guy just thought I had a strange different type of British accent. Do any another Philadelphians have this happen to them? I'm black and get this. Do white Philadelphians have this happen? Weird thing is... I've noticed Aussies say things similar to us even though their accent is way way different.

    • @lisaspikes4291
      @lisaspikes4291 Рік тому +3

      I’ve had people ask if I was from the UK. When I was young and still had a strong accent. Now I have such a mishmash of accents I don’t think anyone would be able to tell where I’m from! 🤣

    • @dubaiedge
      @dubaiedge 10 місяців тому

      No, people always spot me as an East coaster, & generally guess Philly or New York. I don't think I have that much of an accent, as I've been gone 40+ years, then lived in San Fran as long as the 18 years I lived in the Philly burbs. A handful of times people took me for a CA. native. But the second I hear natives speak as they do in this video, I can imitate it really well 😆

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 6 місяців тому

      @@dubaiedge Same here. Grew up in Philly, but spent a long time in both California and Texas. Mishmash, but gotta have my "wooder"!

  • @GaetanoIrrera
    @GaetanoIrrera 5 місяців тому +4

    Air Force Boot Camp 1965, 60 guys of that group 3 Yankees, NYC, Chicago, Philly. The three of us are talking and one of the good old boys is just standing there listening. He asks "Where the hell are you from?" "Philly I replied." He said in the deepest Southern Draw I ever heard, "You got a helva axcent, I can't understand a thing you all air sayen." Or words to the effect. And I never say "Wooder," but my younger sister does.

    • @jesss101
      @jesss101 2 місяці тому

      wow 1965 must've been a whole different world!

  • @StrengthCoachFelix
    @StrengthCoachFelix 11 місяців тому +6

    Michelle Fieldler grew up in delco
    with a delco accent that thick you don't need to specify where shes from 🤣

    • @dabolB
      @dabolB 26 днів тому

      I feel like Delco people have thicker Philly accents than a lot of Philly ppl

  • @inconnu4961
    @inconnu4961 Рік тому +6

    Michelle Fiedler: Not only does she have an accent with 'water', but also with 'towels' and 'ask'! LOL I remember that accent from PA! Rarely hear it these days!

  • @GizmoBeach
    @GizmoBeach 4 місяці тому +2

    I guess Richmond VA is a suburb of Philadelphia PA…I say water as if it were spelled close to wooder or wuh-der, only jumped-up namby-pampies say “WAH-ter” like some BBC announcer talking in a Received Pronunciation accent. 😜

  • @arrowverselover100
    @arrowverselover100 Рік тому +7

    For the first time ever in my life, someone didn't know what I meant when I said "wooder." It's never happened and I don't live in Philly either. I haven't lived there since I was 6, and I am now 21. Everyone in the suburbs knows what I mean. I asked the guy, "where is the wooder?" and he said, "what?" and I repeated myself three times before the woman behind him pointed to where it was because he didn't understand. I didn't realize that it was the word he didn't understand, not that he couldn't hear it, until after the woman showed me where it was.

    • @Birdlives247
      @Birdlives247 7 місяців тому

      I grew up in the suburbs of Philadelphia and my family says "wooder" I moved down South and changed the way I pronounce the word. I came back to Philly and asked a kid at a cash register "Where's the water?". After three minutes, he never did figure out what I was saying and the manager had to come over.

    • @arrowverselover100
      @arrowverselover100 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Birdlives247 Wow. Yeah, the way I say it has never left me. I don't even know I am saying it half the time. It just comes so natural to me. My sister often makes fun of me becuase she was born and raised in the suburbs. I have never tried to teach myself to say it how we do out here. People know what I mean anyway.

  • @satanseyes3883
    @satanseyes3883 Рік тому +6

    Yeah it makes since this was uploaded during our warder crisis

  • @wendiwerner2286
    @wendiwerner2286 3 місяці тому +1

    This segment would be a lot better without the music playing over the people speaking. It's hard to hear them.

  • @yvonneplant9434
    @yvonneplant9434 Рік тому +11

    Everyone in Philly says " wooder". There were other words that Philadelphians used to use but not so much now: pavement and spigot are two I can think of.

    • @JJ-ei3jh
      @JJ-ei3jh Рік тому +1

      And South Jersey.

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 6 місяців тому

      Doesn't everyone say that? Are the alternatives sidewalk and faucet? I grew up with the first set, but spigot was pronounced "spigget".

  • @andrewc3236
    @andrewc3236 Рік тому +15

    I like this jawn.

  • @JTRocks4Ever
    @JTRocks4Ever 8 місяців тому +1

    Its a working class accent like NYC (Brooklyn, Queens, etc)

  • @cliffgulliver4626
    @cliffgulliver4626 7 місяців тому +1

    They tawk regular…

  • @H-youtube7
    @H-youtube7 Місяць тому

    Philly "water" sounds more like English pronunciation than elsewhere in US ("waahder"), though English keep the T's

  • @trendy4tmrw
    @trendy4tmrw Рік тому +9

    The ironic timing of this story is NOT lost on me 😅

  • @painless465
    @painless465 19 днів тому

    “ wooder ice” lol. Here in Staten Island we say Italian ice. Oh yea, and it’s Hero’s, not Hoagies. But I know they’re from Philly when they say On like” Awn” , unlike here in New York they say “ Ahn”. In Philly I hear Cawfee too

  • @TheUnleetGamer
    @TheUnleetGamer 8 місяців тому +1

    everyone, everywhere has an accent, genius.

  • @nickadz5490
    @nickadz5490 Рік тому +2

    Another example
    " Aye boi, don't drink that wooder, it got chemicals in it! "

  • @SagPegasus
    @SagPegasus 2 місяці тому

    For me was when I moved away and had to get my radiator in my car repaired.
    "Your what?"
    "My radiator."
    "What...?"
    "My radiator! I just need it patched, it sprung a leak."
    "Wait, do you mean radiator?"
    *confused stare* "Thats what I've been saying!"
    "What are you saying it like gladiator?"
    *confused realization*
    Apparently I have the 'upper crust' Philly accent going for me (which makes sense as my grandparents came from money, even if we never had any). Driving the "Shitty Shtreets" is real for me!

  • @Cheesesteak70-d1v
    @Cheesesteak70-d1v 23 дні тому

    Born and raised Philly of course I did not realize my accent until my older sister started pointing it out and trying to correct me because she was more worldly per se😂 raise my kids in Bucks County and I pronounced words correctly when teaching them to speak, and they do not for the most part speak with a Philly accent, although people not from here disagree with me!
    So many of my friends have no idea what I’m saying to them about their accent. This city is completely unaware of their accent unless it is pointed out to them when they hear people speaking clear and correctly they truly believe they sound exactly like that.
    Which believe me it’s loads of fun picking on them and I have the right to do so😂

  • @patricialovelace9689
    @patricialovelace9689 2 місяці тому

    Another thing we say is (for vehicle) ve-icle. No “h” sound. When you travel west in Pennsylvania, you start to hear people pronouncing the H in that word.

  • @Cheesesteak70-d1v
    @Cheesesteak70-d1v 23 дні тому

    I went to the Ak-a-me to get some wooder then went to the toy- rit but the line was full of I-taluns and A-rabs so I turnt around and left ,, true words from my best friend’s mother born and raised in Kensington😂

  • @katrinaoliver4167
    @katrinaoliver4167 6 місяців тому

    Aside from “wooder” and a few other words, I think these people sound like they are from California and I’ve lived in California (northern, Southern and central) for nearly 40 years.

  • @jesss101
    @jesss101 2 місяці тому

    watched a vid of someone pronouncing water like this and had to discover where their accent was from! i'm from from california, and i say whah-dher like a valley girl haha

  • @unsaintedhost3937
    @unsaintedhost3937 Місяць тому

    Well I'm from Boston where we pak the caa in the yad and now I live in Ohio where they warsh their clothes oh and don't forget there sweeping the floor when the vacuum and soda is called pop here.

  • @littleghostfilms3012
    @littleghostfilms3012 6 місяців тому +1

    It's the same all over. There is 'proper', academic grammar and speech, and there is the on the ground way that people in different places speak. Grew up in Pa. in west central with it's regional way, closer to 'Pittsburghese', but lived in Philly 4 years and loved the way people there spoke. Kind of a no-nonsense, to the point way, very down to earth.

  • @mickphilly101
    @mickphilly101 5 місяців тому

    Title should be how wooder became water because wooder was first

  • @Drew_Anderson
    @Drew_Anderson 8 місяців тому +1

    it sounds like if Jersey and Minnesota had an accent baby together.

  • @kennethhigh8228
    @kennethhigh8228 Місяць тому

    This video had very little or nothing to do with the title.

  • @uamdbro
    @uamdbro 7 місяців тому +1

    Not from Philly but from Maryland, I too say "wooder". And pronounce "wash" as "warsh".
    I need sm wooder to warsh my close lol

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 6 місяців тому

      "Warsh" is western PA, I think. Philly says "waash".

  • @Lumeniaellina
    @Lumeniaellina 7 місяців тому

    This background music is obnoxious

  • @brentwilkey
    @brentwilkey 2 місяці тому

    How many times did he say wooder?

  • @IrichB
    @IrichB Рік тому +1

    Them nic stains are crazy!

  • @jaiboregio
    @jaiboregio 19 днів тому

    "melodic" 😂

  • @healmyroots
    @healmyroots 6 місяців тому

    I say "tow-wel"...not "towl" LOL. I'm born and raised in Philly. That chick isnt even from Philly she's from Delco.

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 6 місяців тому

      I was raised in Philly and say "talhs". Kind of a combination.

    • @RM-vm5eb
      @RM-vm5eb Місяць тому

      The accent is a regional accent that is not confined to the borders of the City of Philadelphia. South Eastern Pennsylvania, South Jersey down into Maryland. While differences have developed over time and geography Delco has the same accent as people living across the street in Philadelphia. It happens to be one of the most documented regional accents thanks to the work of Dr. Labov at U of P if you're interested.

  • @DadsResale
    @DadsResale 5 місяців тому

    I'm was born in Chicago, and grew up in Michigan, I've lived in Texas for 10 years. I didn't know I had an accent until I moved here and people started pointing it out. My wife has always made fun of the way I say, cops, pop, cat. And when I say words with T's, I pronouce them as D's. Water is Wah-der, little is li-ddle. I add The in front of places. The Walmart, The Target. I feel like we do the same, with how the one lady said talking fast and condensing words. I think I tend to do that too. I tell people it's because growing up where it's cold and winter 9 months out of the year, you don't have time to stand around talking. You just need to get the point across quickly.

  • @frankd.4528
    @frankd.4528 4 місяці тому

    I hang out with friends from Long Island - thick accents. I asked them if they thought I had an accent and they just laughed.

  • @anthonygonzalez2441
    @anthonygonzalez2441 2 місяці тому

    The point across quickly is clutch dead on!! 😂

  • @Codemeister99
    @Codemeister99 5 місяців тому

    that old guy knows what its all about love to see it

  • @garytorresani8846
    @garytorresani8846 8 місяців тому

    According to linguists, the Philly accent is a variation of a southern accent similar to Maryland but different. I grew up in Montgomery county and our accent was Philly but different from south Philly or northeast Philly.

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 6 місяців тому

      I've been to MD, too. No comparison.

  • @josephtedesco8429
    @josephtedesco8429 Рік тому

    I heard it for the first time it blew my mind

  • @DavidOliverbuck
    @DavidOliverbuck 8 місяців тому

    喔 得~ water . deep in the water

  • @RunDCM
    @RunDCM 9 місяців тому +5

    Why are you asking blacks? Blacks don’t have a Philly accent. It’s strong with whites.

  • @marks5336
    @marks5336 Рік тому

    Wader is how Philly says it not wooder.

    • @Kasperx138
      @Kasperx138 Рік тому +1

      depends I say it literally every way lol

    • @lisaspikes4291
      @lisaspikes4291 Рік тому +1

      My mother definitely says wooder. Exactly that way.

    • @been_rly_n2_paragliding_lately
      @been_rly_n2_paragliding_lately 11 місяців тому +3

      Wader is how 99% of Americans without a regional accent say it. I've rarely ever heard anyone purposely pronounce the t during normal conversation. Philly definitely says wooder. Maybe not all, but many do. I've noticed it in Baltimore as well.

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 6 місяців тому

      @@been_rly_n2_paragliding_lately In mid-Western PA, more like around Penn State, it's more like "waahter". Flatter sound.

  • @TaraStok
    @TaraStok 3 місяці тому

    I was born and raised near Philadelphia. I realized I had a philly accent when I was living in Egypt and went to the American embassy to vote and do taxes. Someone knew I was from Philadelphia.