I agree, I think it's a natural evolution of the tech. If one could use it to control the ship, report back ship messages, and have conversations with, that would be excellent.
The insanely chipper voice would drive me mental. First thing I'd do would be to engineer a tactical "just the facts" type interaction, with maximum information in minimum time. "Give me trip details to Hutton Orbital from current location, with optimal jumps to refuelable stars." "Processing... Alpha Centauri achievable in 17 jumps, 8 refuelable stars en route. Estimated 90 minute supercruise time for final approach to Hutton Orbital." "Plot and execute." "Course set. Friendship drive ready on your mark."
Perfectly achievable with custom instructions, or even briefing the AI beforehand! When this kind of things does get executed in games, it will be very easy for the user to customise the response style to their liking.
Really cool, although the "ChatGPT regurgitates what you said with more words" schtick gets a bit irritating. For example, you flounder about using super cruise or not and then decide not to because you are getting close to the station and then voice goes on about using it or not then doesn't end up actually deciding and giving any advice and says "whatever you decide we'll be there soon". So you flounder about super cruise and being close to the station and then the voice flounders about super cruise and getting close to the station. Too verbose for me personally but I assume that is something you could attempt to tame with some additional initial parameters in ChatGPT. In my time with LLMs they tend to fall back into a standard communication format with enough input even when you've instructed them to not go back to that format. Did you give it any instructions on how much commentary or feedback to give you?
I agree with all your points, and yes, when it starts stating and restating the obvious it's a little annoying. This video serves as a concept for what such an AI could be onboard, and it would be wonderful if it were possible to integrate conversation with functionality. To answer your question, I didn't give it instructions on how much commentary or feedback to give. I only said, "I'm going to make a UA-cam video for this, so please keep it sounding professional" and I think she pretty much adhered to that. Of course, I could have many other things too, and as you imply, the functionality for such customisation is there.
I didn't even know that existed! And that's been around for a long time now, wow. I asked ChatGPT and it came up with the name Aurora - a hybrid of ChatGPT, Voice Attack, and COVAS. That would be amazing. Probably not too unrealistic for something like that to be implemented in the near future.
It might be neat to get this integrated so you could be like “Archer, request docking”. I use Archer as my COVAS. Or have it pay attention or summarize Galnet. Or set course/route to places so you don’t have to navigate the map in VR. Or maybe scrub some of the ED sites for part locations or jobs. That way you don’t have to tab out or grab a tablet while playing to look up. Maybe put a call in to the Fuel Rats
It would be great to have this better integrated. At the moment I'm just leading it and using it as an effective adviser/companion, which it's obviously fine at for what it is. But the potential to have it trained for more than that is very promising.
It's fantastic - you can use it for advice, guidance or just chats. It really shows you how things could turn out in the far future, the main difference being that by then the AI will probably be completely self-aware.
Voice Attack works ok interactive chit-chat is limited but it can pretty much fly the ship for you, I especially like the Kate profile and if you have different profiles loaded on your ship they can talk to one another that can be interesting. But if they could incorporate this into Voice Attack then this would be cool to have such an interactive experience.
I was using ChatGPT in a similar way, having it roleplay as my ship's AI companion but using it to help me learn how to play the game. I've yet to get Voice Attack to work reliably, the Windows STT engine is absolutely terrible and no matter how much I train it, it misunderstands me and things always seem buggy. I would love to see a ChatGPT backed alternative with an action inference engine to automate tasks. It's definitely possible.
how does it help? It just repeats what you said and cheer you up. If it could set up and lock target, accelerate and decelerate to get there... So you command by voice and not touch any other inputs then it would be usefull.
At this early point in time its function is little more than companionship. And I am sure that, in 3300 or whenever Elite is set happens, AIs [or AGIs] onboard will be a reality and will be able to do all the things you describe. For now, it would be great if game companies could integrated conversational voice with functionality. As some in the comments have already said, it shouldn't be too hard for them to do that.
Currently it's companionable, nothing else. Though this video is a concept of what COULD happen, if it were integrated into the COVAS and ideally voice commands. This is not impossible by any stretch. In fact I would say it's an inevitability.
Very verbose with perhaps too warm of an affect. I'd love to see a engineered prompt to get it to more curtly repeat certain commands -- maybe more perfunctory or military-style responses. Also it's feeding off your voice alone, it seems. Would be sick if there were an API to funnel some prompts to it. Great demo, however. Thanks for the vid.
The great thing is that ChatGPT AVM is customisable like that. So before recording this demo I asked it to be professional and neutral, though I could have, in theory, asked for more military-style responses. If such a thing were ever integrated into the game [or other games, and it's certainly doable], the mode of responses - and voice - could be tailored per user.
Without APIs for the AI to get situational awareness and agency within the game, is just like having an annoying manager backseat driving without actually doing anything useful.
@@the_underearth6419 Is going to be a game changer for gaming in general, but RPGs in particular. All NPCs. Is funny how AI will be able to contextualise, understand and action our commands, but still behave like a complete brick in combat. No progress has been made on that front yet. Nobody has yet used computer learning to train bots how to move...
Yes, that's the main gripe, really. I mean, I know we're going to Omega Mining Operation! At least she hasn't forgotten I suppose :) Apart from that, it's a fun experience, and has potential. It would be great if this could be linked to ship controls.
@@the_underearth6419 It is totally possible to do that. You'd have to write some code, but you could take the text response from ChatGPT using the ChatGPT API and have it press keys and whatnot.
Clever yes, not sure about pointless... in the realm of companionship that's user-centric. Being out in the black for a long time on one's own can get a bit too solitary, maybe!
@@delphicdescant This is true, but part of that reason here is because I didn't utilise it well enough in this video. I made this without any thought and threw it up on UA-cam. Really, I should have made use of ChatGPT's knowledge of the game and systems and shown that off too. It can be very good in an advisory role in that way.
LLMs tend to reflect what you give them back at you, unless you ask it very specific questions that lend themselves to dry factual responses or you avoid giving it hints about what you are thinking. They default to something akin to active listening. So when you say something to them, they tend to paraphrase that back at you. I'm not sure how useful that might be for game play. If you narrate your gaming like a stream, the LLM is probably going to narrate back at you. If you, instead, have a conversation with it, you'll probably get more interesting responses.
@@samgordon9756 Yes indeed, as I've said above [and now in the description], one thing I could have done was ask it about system maps or even asteroid base locations. For instance, I didn't look up which system Omega Mining Operation was in on the way there. I just few close to the nebula, asked ChatGPT which system it was in, and it told me. It was correct. Little things like that show it can be very good as an in-flight adviser or navigator. As for the conversational aspect, I've done that with another AI here - ua-cam.com/video/fXtz7g7snFs/v-deo.htmlsi=3ZyLwTzvvEACXY09
I really enjoy the interaction, though it's not for everyone, I know. For those who don't like this style of interaction, a more concise, "military style" would work when linked to commands, as some have said. Of course, I could have asked the AI to respond like that in this video, but I personally like this style.
@@the_underearth6419 maybe needs some fintuning on the initialisation prompts, to make it more pro-active .. it should know enough about the game to be able to do it.
Absolutely. That's totally my fault, I was very lazy with this video and stuck it on UA-cam just to show my brother, I didn't expect it to get 2k+ views! But you're totally right, better prompts would be great, as well as using it as a consultant. It does know quite a lot about the game already, yes.
@@potsandjacks that's easily fixable! You can ask the AI to use a different tone when talking - calm, low, serious, etc. Whatever works for you. Or you can choose a different voice altogether. There are nine overall, I think.
when this gets perfected i sure hope they will implement this into games
I agree, I think it's a natural evolution of the tech. If one could use it to control the ship, report back ship messages, and have conversations with, that would be excellent.
The insanely chipper voice would drive me mental. First thing I'd do would be to engineer a tactical "just the facts" type interaction, with maximum information in minimum time.
"Give me trip details to Hutton Orbital from current location, with optimal jumps to refuelable stars."
"Processing... Alpha Centauri achievable in 17 jumps, 8 refuelable stars en route. Estimated 90 minute supercruise time for final approach to Hutton Orbital."
"Plot and execute."
"Course set. Friendship drive ready on your mark."
Perfectly achievable with custom instructions, or even briefing the AI beforehand! When this kind of things does get executed in games, it will be very easy for the user to customise the response style to their liking.
Really cool, although the "ChatGPT regurgitates what you said with more words" schtick gets a bit irritating.
For example, you flounder about using super cruise or not and then decide not to because you are getting close to the station and then voice goes on about using it or not then doesn't end up actually deciding and giving any advice and says "whatever you decide we'll be there soon". So you flounder about super cruise and being close to the station and then the voice flounders about super cruise and getting close to the station.
Too verbose for me personally but I assume that is something you could attempt to tame with some additional initial parameters in ChatGPT. In my time with LLMs they tend to fall back into a standard communication format with enough input even when you've instructed them to not go back to that format.
Did you give it any instructions on how much commentary or feedback to give you?
I agree with all your points, and yes, when it starts stating and restating the obvious it's a little annoying. This video serves as a concept for what such an AI could be onboard, and it would be wonderful if it were possible to integrate conversation with functionality.
To answer your question, I didn't give it instructions on how much commentary or feedback to give. I only said, "I'm going to make a UA-cam video for this, so please keep it sounding professional" and I think she pretty much adhered to that. Of course, I could have many other things too, and as you imply, the functionality for such customisation is there.
On one hand, this is really cool. On the other hand…. I have a hotas warthog and a vr headset
Now THAT is cool.
i had a lot of fun with voiceattack. telling it full power to shields, raising gear, engage supercrouse and such.
I didn't even know that existed! And that's been around for a long time now, wow.
I asked ChatGPT and it came up with the name Aurora - a hybrid of ChatGPT, Voice Attack, and COVAS. That would be amazing. Probably not too unrealistic for something like that to be implemented in the near future.
@@the_underearth6419 And get EDDI in there too so they don't all talk at the same time (which always seems to happen for me).
It might be neat to get this integrated so you could be like “Archer, request docking”. I use Archer as my COVAS. Or have it pay attention or summarize Galnet. Or set course/route to places so you don’t have to navigate the map in VR. Or maybe scrub some of the ED sites for part locations or jobs. That way you don’t have to tab out or grab a tablet while playing to look up.
Maybe put a call in to the Fuel Rats
It would be great to have this better integrated. At the moment I'm just leading it and using it as an effective adviser/companion, which it's obviously fine at for what it is. But the potential to have it trained for more than that is very promising.
Looks exciting and fun to play with that ChatGPT
It's fantastic - you can use it for advice, guidance or just chats. It really shows you how things could turn out in the far future, the main difference being that by then the AI will probably be completely self-aware.
I know you're trying to show off the ChatGPT copilot, but you're now a certified yapper.
Awesome.
Would be great to Say engage docking procedure when you jump out of supercruise and let it do it while you set your next course
3:30 xD the loop of shame :D
"The loop of shame"! Love it! And thank you
Voice Attack works ok interactive chit-chat is limited but it can pretty much fly the ship for you,
I especially like the Kate profile and if you have different profiles loaded on your ship they can talk to one another that can be interesting.
But if they could incorporate this into Voice Attack then this would be cool to have such an interactive experience.
I was using ChatGPT in a similar way, having it roleplay as my ship's AI companion but using it to help me learn how to play the game. I've yet to get Voice Attack to work reliably, the Windows STT engine is absolutely terrible and no matter how much I train it, it misunderstands me and things always seem buggy. I would love to see a ChatGPT backed alternative with an action inference engine to automate tasks. It's definitely possible.
how does it help? It just repeats what you said and cheer you up. If it could set up and lock target, accelerate and decelerate to get there... So you command by voice and not touch any other inputs then it would be usefull.
At this early point in time its function is little more than companionship. And I am sure that, in 3300 or whenever Elite is set happens, AIs [or AGIs] onboard will be a reality and will be able to do all the things you describe. For now, it would be great if game companies could integrated conversational voice with functionality. As some in the comments have already said, it shouldn't be too hard for them to do that.
Imagine a Cortana voice pack
getting closer to judgement day i tell ya!! lol :)
They're after your jobs!
@@the_underearth6419 hahahaha :)
"Enjoy the jump". Did you?
Really good jump, one of the better ones 💀
@@the_underearth6419 It sounded rather satisfying I must admit.
@@notverygoodguy did you manage to access the goulash thingy
just so I understand, does "she" actually do anything or is it only chatter to be less alone?
Currently it's companionable, nothing else. Though this video is a concept of what COULD happen, if it were integrated into the COVAS and ideally voice commands. This is not impossible by any stretch. In fact I would say it's an inevitability.
@@the_underearth6419 thank you
Very verbose with perhaps too warm of an affect. I'd love to see a engineered prompt to get it to more curtly repeat certain commands -- maybe more perfunctory or military-style responses. Also it's feeding off your voice alone, it seems. Would be sick if there were an API to funnel some prompts to it. Great demo, however. Thanks for the vid.
The great thing is that ChatGPT AVM is customisable like that. So before recording this demo I asked it to be professional and neutral, though I could have, in theory, asked for more military-style responses. If such a thing were ever integrated into the game [or other games, and it's certainly doable], the mode of responses - and voice - could be tailored per user.
Without APIs for the AI to get situational awareness and agency within the game, is just like having an annoying manager backseat driving without actually doing anything useful.
Hopefully such a thing will be done soon, the capability is there. It would be great for such a thing to be integrated into the game.
@@the_underearth6419 Is going to be a game changer for gaming in general, but RPGs in particular. All NPCs. Is funny how AI will be able to contextualise, understand and action our commands, but still behave like a complete brick in combat. No progress has been made on that front yet. Nobody has yet used computer learning to train bots how to move...
Even Boston Dynamics still has some way to go!
A bit annoying how much it just repeats everything you just said. Other than that, pretty interesting
Yes, that's the main gripe, really. I mean, I know we're going to Omega Mining Operation! At least she hasn't forgotten I suppose :) Apart from that, it's a fun experience, and has potential. It would be great if this could be linked to ship controls.
@@the_underearth6419 It is totally possible to do that. You'd have to write some code, but you could take the text response from ChatGPT using the ChatGPT API and have it press keys and whatnot.
Says a whole lot of nothing. Clever but pointless really
Clever yes, not sure about pointless... in the realm of companionship that's user-centric. Being out in the black for a long time on one's own can get a bit too solitary, maybe!
Not any more pointless than having, say, a human streamer kind of half-bake their way through being your copilot, tbh.
@@delphicdescant This is true, but part of that reason here is because I didn't utilise it well enough in this video. I made this without any thought and threw it up on UA-cam. Really, I should have made use of ChatGPT's knowledge of the game and systems and shown that off too. It can be very good in an advisory role in that way.
LLMs tend to reflect what you give them back at you, unless you ask it very specific questions that lend themselves to dry factual responses or you avoid giving it hints about what you are thinking.
They default to something akin to active listening. So when you say something to them, they tend to paraphrase that back at you.
I'm not sure how useful that might be for game play. If you narrate your gaming like a stream, the LLM is probably going to narrate back at you.
If you, instead, have a conversation with it, you'll probably get more interesting responses.
@@samgordon9756 Yes indeed, as I've said above [and now in the description], one thing I could have done was ask it about system maps or even asteroid base locations. For instance, I didn't look up which system Omega Mining Operation was in on the way there. I just few close to the nebula, asked ChatGPT which system it was in, and it told me. It was correct. Little things like that show it can be very good as an in-flight adviser or navigator.
As for the conversational aspect, I've done that with another AI here - ua-cam.com/video/fXtz7g7snFs/v-deo.htmlsi=3ZyLwTzvvEACXY09
that was funny, sadly all ot does confirming what you are saying, not really adding anything to it.
I really enjoy the interaction, though it's not for everyone, I know. For those who don't like this style of interaction, a more concise, "military style" would work when linked to commands, as some have said. Of course, I could have asked the AI to respond like that in this video, but I personally like this style.
@@the_underearth6419 maybe needs some fintuning on the initialisation prompts, to make it more pro-active .. it should know enough about the game to be able to do it.
Absolutely. That's totally my fault, I was very lazy with this video and stuck it on UA-cam just to show my brother, I didn't expect it to get 2k+ views! But you're totally right, better prompts would be great, as well as using it as a consultant. It does know quite a lot about the game already, yes.
This is unbearable in its current from rofl
Unbearable? In what way?
@@the_underearth6419 the tone that the AI usess makes me crunge so bad I vomit a little in my mouth when its responding.
@@potsandjacks that's easily fixable! You can ask the AI to use a different tone when talking - calm, low, serious, etc. Whatever works for you. Or you can choose a different voice altogether. There are nine overall, I think.
ChatGPT is a load of crap like all Ai just bloody useless.
You don't have to use it then! Though I think saying "all AI is bloody useless" is generalising somewhat :)