Oldest Archeological Hornbow with Siyahs: The Yrzi

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @HistoricalWeapons
    @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому +51

    if people are interested, I might start a series called "the history of the bow and arrow" starting in stone age Africa to modern day Olympic archery, going into detail including specific processes of bow developments. btw i drew some diagrams to avoid complicated copyright issues if i used their original drawings.

    • @mitch7235
      @mitch7235 3 роки тому

      Please do!!!😆

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому +2

      @Dylan Tarpy yeah if you google history of bows the third search is a video game monster hunter LMAO

    • @jgh6666
      @jgh6666 3 роки тому +2

      @@HistoricalWeapons Videos on history would be great. Just bought an assyrian bow, and it is performing great. But I could not find much infos on historical assyrian bows, and don't know how close the replicas from let's say Grozer, Jackal, Bogar and AF are to the originals.

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      @@jgh6666 I gotta make vids on Assyrian but before that there’s some bow reviews to finish

    • @wrongturnarchery2337
      @wrongturnarchery2337 3 роки тому +2

      Yes please do you haft to man I don't watch much TV but I watch all your content brother your the best historian for archery we have in my my eyes so you make it will like it thumbs up all day man

  • @marcellusbrutus3346
    @marcellusbrutus3346 3 роки тому +19

    ive been waiting 6 months for this video since you secretly told me, thank you so much for the hard work and research!

  • @zoranpavlovic9540
    @zoranpavlovic9540 3 роки тому +22

    Wow! That's pure unbiased historcal analysis! 👍

  • @phawang37
    @phawang37 3 роки тому +30

    starting to look more and more like a historical channel

    • @mitch7235
      @mitch7235 3 роки тому +5

      Which I like😆!!!

  • @srinjoyroychoudhury7034
    @srinjoyroychoudhury7034 3 роки тому +29

    The Yrzi bow represents the a point in time when the classical Elamite/Assyrian bow was falling out of favor and the classic Sarmatian/Parthian style was getting more acceptance. That is why it looks sort of an in between bow of the two styles

  • @fakeaccount9695
    @fakeaccount9695 3 роки тому +13

    Great channel, great information
    Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @mikeorick6898
    @mikeorick6898 3 роки тому +19

    Compound was first used by Mason in 1886. Later proposed bow classification systems (Rodgers) made a distinction between a composite of different materials (sinew, wood, horn) and a compound of different parts (siyahs, limbs, handle). The trend is to restrict the term compound to the latest modern version invented by Allen in the 1960s, which was both a composite of different materials, and a compound of different parts.

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      the modern compound bow is somthing im interested to make a video on, gonna be a video with a lot more accessible resources to research..Although I cannot keep track of the models from 2000-2020s, so many models and brands, with many advertising content it is difficult to make it educational and not seem like a free promotion

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      Subtitles added for vets

    • @zhangtony3372
      @zhangtony3372 3 роки тому

      Lol he is talking about Roman bow not American bow

    • @phawang37
      @phawang37 3 роки тому

      @@zhangtony3372 lol u didn’t watch

    • @marcellusbrutus3346
      @marcellusbrutus3346 3 роки тому +1

      @@zhangtony3372 the modern compound bow was just a side mention about 1% of the video content not sure why people focus so much on it

  • @jackm2293
    @jackm2293 3 роки тому +11

    O man that was great ! sweet video bro. love your content. your skills are great man. looking forward to more

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому +1

      I appreciate it! how was the audio, i was worried too loud?

    • @jackm2293
      @jackm2293 3 роки тому

      @@HistoricalWeapons no man its great. keep doing what your doing.

  • @UncleDanBand64
    @UncleDanBand64 3 роки тому +9

    Very interesting sir!

  • @JP-mz8xd
    @JP-mz8xd 3 роки тому +12

    It looks like a 10th century Magyar bow. Especially with the rigid non contact siyah. Cool looking bow. Wonder what the draw weight would have been. We’re there any arrows found with the bow so a guess could be made???

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      no arrows found for that bow and modest replicas would estimate around 50-70 lbs...(sammy's replica is on the low side)

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      @@thehun313 thanks do you know where i can get photos of their hungarian archelogical finds? i want to make video about magyar and cuman bows but i need pictures of archeology

  • @regiusregius5079
    @regiusregius5079 3 роки тому +10

    Cześć, fajny film.
    Pozdrawiam.
    No i na razie.

  • @Daylon91
    @Daylon91 3 роки тому +11

    Great video man and I've never heard of bone being used as "Siyas" very interesting seeings how bone can take more force/strain. I wonder about the weight of bone

  • @merakiMK
    @merakiMK 6 місяців тому +1

    This channel is a goldmine

  • @kennethclark3933
    @kennethclark3933 3 роки тому +11

    Excellent! Which replica (if any) of this now would you recommend? I'm really more interested in the Seljuk bow. 12thC or so, so advice on suitable replicas there. In fact as your videos progress one on the Seljuk takeover of Iraq, Syria and Asia Minor and their bows would be much appreciated.

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      Current no commercial replica exist. You can ask Toto alharist to make a fiberglass one

  • @mattthekiller9129
    @mattthekiller9129 3 роки тому +3

    glad i found your channel! very interesting stuff, keep it up man!

  • @wrongturnarchery2337
    @wrongturnarchery2337 3 роки тому +3

    Very good brother grate little documentary

  • @andkonblack
    @andkonblack 3 роки тому +4

    Legendary

  • @srinjoyroychoudhury7034
    @srinjoyroychoudhury7034 3 роки тому +10

    If you want bows of the Achemeneid times then look at the Sarmatian bow from Jackal Archery and if you are looking for bows of Parthian, Late Roman and Sassanid times then look at the L6 Sarmata Bow from Grozer and the Simurgh Bow from Sarmat Archery

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks For educational vids I’d rather look for people who own hornbow variants and take vids there

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому +1

      My personal collection is too much now

    • @srinjoyroychoudhury7034
      @srinjoyroychoudhury7034 3 роки тому

      @@HistoricalWeapons
      I hope to see you draw that 240 lbs longbow one day. The way you are progressing you'll be able to draw it easily in just a few years. Hoping to see that video 😃

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      @@srinjoyroychoudhury7034 i cant draw it but thanks man

    • @srinjoyroychoudhury7034
      @srinjoyroychoudhury7034 3 роки тому

      @@HistoricalWeapons
      You will be able to in a few years. Practice with the Tiron for a couple of years and then you will see you can. I have full faith

  • @WaynesGoneWild
    @WaynesGoneWild 3 роки тому +7

    Interesting!

  • @dingdong4156
    @dingdong4156 3 роки тому +4

    Epic

  • @MarcRitzMD
    @MarcRitzMD 3 роки тому +6

    Tendon and sinew are synonymous. I don't understand the differentiation in your video 🤔

  • @langdavid6852
    @langdavid6852 3 роки тому +3

    Wow

  • @VictorJavannn
    @VictorJavannn 3 роки тому +4

    Educational

  • @mr.sandman770
    @mr.sandman770 3 роки тому

    Grozer now has a design of this bow he calls the roman bow. wonder if it is worth checking out over his Persian bow?

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      Yeah it’s a late Roman bow of Sassanian hunnic design

    • @mr.sandman770
      @mr.sandman770 3 роки тому +1

      @@HistoricalWeapons Are there any specific bows you would recommend for someone looking to do sassanid/persian archery?

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      @@mr.sandman770 what time period

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому

      @@mr.sandman770 for Sassanian I recommend alibow tang dunhuang for low budget and grozer for higher budget

    • @mr.sandman770
      @mr.sandman770 3 роки тому

      @@HistoricalWeapons Thank you very much, I was looking for Sassanian archery. I will keep those in mind

  • @kenwebster5053
    @kenwebster5053 2 роки тому

    That's about the same timing as the Tatars & I have seen Tatar horse bow recreation of very similar design. Are they authentic though? It seems a very long way from direct Tartar activity though, but the age & design are uncanny. Perhaps it was a common technology of the time, perhaps trade or a battle prize or just parallel development..... Who knows.

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  Рік тому

      Tatars are a few hundred years later. First mention is around 14th century

    • @kenwebster5053
      @kenwebster5053 Рік тому

      @@HistoricalWeapons Yes, I know that the Tatar expansion was centuries later & in a different area. Peoples don't appear out of thin air though. Just suggesting a possible technological or trade connection really.

  • @LifeisGood-ye8rl
    @LifeisGood-ye8rl 3 роки тому +5

    41 # I think you’re missing 1 digit.

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому +4

      nope. these are based on historical dimensions and these are bows 2000 years ago. not battle of argincourt

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons  3 роки тому +3

      even 41lb@28" is performing excellently 33 gram arrow doing about 170 fps thats a lethal bow

  • @ianuser9650
    @ianuser9650 3 роки тому

    good editing

  • @robinj6997
    @robinj6997 3 роки тому

    Does Sammy Dee have a UA-cam channel?

  • @Dnahwjjwjejnenex
    @Dnahwjjwjejnenex 3 роки тому +7

    MONGOL BOW HISTORY NEXT

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 3 роки тому

    were the Parthians nomadic?

  • @oackman9250
    @oackman9250 2 роки тому

    awesome vids man

  • @samegame7647
    @samegame7647 3 роки тому

    Nice bro

  • @mattjones6990
    @mattjones6990 2 роки тому

    intereesting

  • @fightingdeamons01
    @fightingdeamons01 3 роки тому

    nice

  • @sergeib8840
    @sergeib8840 2 роки тому

    Awesome

  • @1ngram
    @1ngram 3 роки тому +6

    Really disappointed that there are no subtitles in English for us hard of hearing archers.

  • @dsasd778
    @dsasd778 3 роки тому

    awesome

  • @fatboy8420
    @fatboy8420 3 роки тому

    Nice

  • @bugger6881
    @bugger6881 2 роки тому

    informative

  • @DrPeterMarsh
    @DrPeterMarsh 2 роки тому

    Oh fuk yah bud

  • @aslanbosnakoglu8240
    @aslanbosnakoglu8240 Рік тому

    no such thing as roman syria. syria was always an arab/semitic land.

  • @xiaotian5863
    @xiaotian5863 3 роки тому

    awesome