@King Royal Yeah, but they didnt do that, now the coal is imported and nothing changed except the miners lost their jobs. If we want to make a difference, we have to phase it out everywhere, not move it to some third world country
As a Londoner I was gutted the way she treated the north , industry's do in the end fall apart but to have no plan as your closing them down was a crime .
Felt meself welling up with him as he described his daughter being cold. People in the north of england are the salt of the earth in my experience, just very friendly decent people
@Bike-Alec Blair ruined labour Corbyn had some good ideas that would benefit those ravaged by years of tory under-funding. Sadly seems people weren't convinced, nothing we can do but hope a socialist movement rises up again one day. Too bad Keir Starmer seems to be a new blairite
@@TomBartram-b1c no you attempt to ease the system into efficiency, not to complelty dismantle it and leave hundreds of thousands of people out of work with no way to maintain their existence.
@@TomBartram-b1c at least try and salvage these people's jobs. The welfare of the people is more important than thee profits of industry. If there are no alternatives then you make alternatives. People literally had no jobs what are they supposed to do eat grass?
@@cenburry2811 the govt did do that in the eighties through enterprise zones which are geographical areas where new industry was lured in through grants and tax incentives, Nissan in Sunderland being a prime example.
Listening to that man talking about not being able to put the fire on for his family breaks my heart. He laughs but you know after all these years he was still crying inside, Thatcher was a monster, she ruined countless lives
Workers in each nation ought to have solidarity with and unite with other workers in their own nation. International socialism is nothing but finance capitalism in disguise.
'Don't expect me to shed any tears for Margaret Thatcher' - I may not have known who she was at the time of her death, but one thing I would have said about it, was something like that quote
As a American born Chechen, some guys tried to get me to be sad for Bush. I am a proud Muslim and dress Muslim, let’s just say I wanted to break a guy’s nose but I just walked away
On the day of Thatcher's funeral I didn't gloat or anything, just went into town and had a quiet pint or two and sat with a little smile on my face. A few ex miners that I knew were doing exactly the same thing...….bliss
@@Jo-qf1gd Retired now, but never been out of work , except for the year long strike fighting for our jobs. So, Joey, what have you ever done, and yes I am a lifelong socialist.
What you did was reasonable. I agree with thatcher in the extent that the mines needed to be shut as they were draining too much money but I think it was the way she handled it that was bad. She could have given much more warning and given funding to the miners
She didn't close the mines because of money - it was revenge . She wanted power to stay in the hands of the ruling minority . Any industry with a union was either castrated or destroyed .
God I feel his pain, the US used to have hundreds of mining towns, I live in a railroad town. Back in 2000 the union railroad up and left, built a new state of the art facility an hour up the tracks, taking all the jobs, union jobs, with em. Communities been dying ever sense. For this guy thatcher was trying to get england off coal, for me they thought it be easier to start from scratch.
They did. Voted for BoJo, after many years of austerity, just for the sake of Brexit, because they were told that immigrants take their jobs. They didn’t and now about the shortages they could see that actually the country needs more of them. Nevertheless I predict the Tories will get on with it again with another pack of lies that it was about Covid, tough it’s quite obvious for those who can think that Brexit is not done and probably never will be. At least not as it was expected. There was time when I hoped people would not vote against their best interest, but I don’t believe in that anymore. I predict that Tories will win another election next time. If for nothing else but because people memory is short, and the opposition is not united to give a better alternative. Sad.
Oh I think the pork barrell rolling your way may dim those memories somewhat. You'll pay for it though, just not in an obvious way. Never, ever trust a Tory.
i feel the same way when people rant on about ronald reagan ..knowing what that man did to people ..countless people hurt due to his policies ..he made living impossible for some
@@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3they were the main faces of the neoliberalism that ruled the West during the 80s. Yes, they were horrible people, but the culprit for the suffering of the working class was the system and their ideology.
There's no sense in keeping up state support for an industry unable to carry itself in terms of cost. That being said you still have the responsibility of taking care about the workers depending on said industry. You can't simply gut the only lifeline of entire communities and then act like there's nothing you can do.
so now they import coal from other countries losing a piece of politics in the process. They probe up farmers . They wouldnt make it themselves. But everyone understand if we do not we will be depent on other countries for our food . Same with coal. Difference farmers vote conservative . Miners did not . Thatcher did good things but she will never have my respect . A prime minister is supposed to care for all the people . Not let a entire group out in the cold
@@TheKkkl123 true. But the same is true with food and fish. Farmers and fishermen get probed up. Mind you i think people deserve better work than mine work. But the way it was handled in the eighties was Just wrong.
@@emmanueldekker514 oh I totally agree, it was done in an awful way, but successive governments hands were tied, pre brexit not allowed to support the steel or the mines, EU law, where as other countries industries have money thrown at them, China for example.
@@TheKkkl123 glad we agree. i did not know about ths EU law. glad we got rid of them.. The french got crazy but hating the french was my favourite pastime anyway. I hope with Boris throwing money at the north Jobs will come in.
I share his views on Thatcher [she sent me to war at 19 years old], but the mines were uneconomical, the fuel comes from abroad as the miners wanted too much money for the job. The sad thing is the region voted Tory in the last election.......... The Tories now are worse, they have no morals.
Coal would have fucking been on the way out anyway. Coal miners are a subject which suffered the most because of a decision which ultimately benefitted the country. What Thatcher did not do is put in place systems to ensure coal miners did not suffer. That was terrible of her.
Thatcher was into causing untold suffering, so why would she care about anyone...she wished to smash the uni ons so the rich elite could get their hold on the nations assets...and fleece the taxpayer...putting the wealth in the hands of non tax paying ex pats...who move their money around the tax havens of the world...and they made a pretty penny...the biggest theft of modern times...based upon crippling the nation...and making destitute many communtiies around the country...the pits were almot all profitable...and the mines received the least subsidies in the world...then they have been stealing much of the miners pensions...even to this day. WHAT A GROUP OF CROOKS...but the paper dont tell you the truth...but then few people are interested in truth...too busy making a few bob rather than thinking about their neighbours...
@@TheKkkl123 Someone willing to take a striking workers job because they couldnt have got the job otherwise.They care about no-one but themselves,have allegiance to no-one,including who they work for, and cannot see long term. They will take almost any abuse from their employer, and dont give a whit about their fellow workers.This is the true makeup of a scab....probably someone like you.
that was the problem johnson kew that old labourites would vote brexit especially in the northern labour heartlands disgusting back stabbing by traditional labour strongholds
@@FOREST-1966 you know mate, if traditional labour is voting Tory, it's not their fucking problem. How about you take a look in the mirror. Then swinging right might have something to do with your idiots having a Marxist, anti-semitic, terrorist supporting, Britain hating swine namely Jeremy Corbyn as head of the Labour party
@@simonwauthier2550 it's not what university he went to but his policies that made him appealing to the working class. The fact that working class lifelong labour supporters voted for Boris proves that Labour is out of touch with the people.
We knew this...which is why we went a year...and many of us were prepared to keep going...she cared not for the miners...or those who would come later and need jobs and thriving communtiies...she cared only for her power, stature, and in stealing the nations assets and handing them to global elites...who now run the world economy...pariahs all of them...
Banging on about mining still. The business became unprofitable and that is why she shut the pits. It doesn’t do to put all your eggs in one basket. She made business decisions. Why should the rest of the country prop you up.
@@frankieseward8667 I’m mixed with Scotland as I don’t know if they could make it as a country. I think that certainly right now they are too dependent on England but maybe with a bit of time they could possibly do it
It is true Margaret Thatcher treated the miners very harshly, and even though she didn't close the mines down for this reason, we are now in a climate crisis, we now know coal and oil use emits huge amounts of CO2; we must transition away from their use towards renewable sustainable energy production.
Except there wasn't a transition. She just had em closed down and the miners and workers, my family and friends all suffered because we were left out to freeze and go hungry. Also ironically, the food industry (specifically cattle and fish) contribute tons more to greenhouse gas emissions than coal and oil. Despite my background and history I agree that we need to go green but what good is that if you send children down to the cobalt mines and exploit your workers while the middle class and above sit all comfy (elon musk im looking at you!). Like you can't just go green in a day and not have severe repercussions on the workforce. Like build your windmills please I beg you but also let us work on them and transition put jobs to that rather than leave us to rot
Don't expect me to shed any tears for British. My family fought against British Crown in Cyprus. 1955 - 1959. British are wanted in Greece for war crimes. It's disgusting to see the UK government trying to sweep their atrocities under the rug instead of persecuting all of the terrible British involved. My great grandfather was tortured to death by the British and my grandmother survived but she had to run to escape torture, and she managed to hide in a well, gashing and breaking her leg on the descent. She died a few years later in my mothers arms. I know that a few British people had nothing to do with the invasion of Cyprus, Greece, but there is still some semblance of hate within me towards British.
I am Spartan in former lives...but lived in the mining area close to this man in the video. A small no of rich elites, and religious zealots have made it hard for many centuries...so its oft not the British or Persians at fault...its their leaders and supporters...who manage to usurp power. I was a miner...and we were tortured, falsely arrested, and painted as criminals by the press...it is those in power we should worry about, unless they are prepared to sacrifice their life in service to their people, as I did in Sparta...when I walked the earth as one Leonadis...King of Sparta.
@@exucia669 I believe British society yearns for history due to its relative lack compared to the Western world and Europe like Greece, leading them to be receptive to anyone who speaks on these topics.
In the 50s in Britain,British people used to get beaten up & even occasionally killed,in both:police custody & in jails. EOKA were terrorists & the British punished terrorists & their sympathisers brutally,at that time. The Greeks also were just as brutal too & so were the Turks. That’s how it was & so you should just get over it.
Should we have kept coal mining even today (even with the mass move away from coal globally?). Seems unlikely they would still be around today no matter what. Also didn't more pits close under Wilson and Callaghan than under Thatcher? Of course the strikes and publicity were under her, but the transition away from coal was a long time in the making.
The unions stood for their members and against exploitation. That was their part in this and anyone who tells you otherwise is either a liar with an agenda or a mug.
@@jimmytgoose476 don’t be deluded. Scargill was a self obsessed power hungry baron who didn’t give a dam. Was all abt a power struggle. Even his own hierarchy deserted him when they realised his mission. Can see you were fooled.
If the mines had remained open then Dave would now probably be suffering from the lung disease coal workers' pneumoconiosis. His choice to regret this I suppose, but does he really regret that his sons and grandsons won't be going through this?
You think a PM who destroyed the nation, caused a war to regain power...and destroyed many lives around the country through unemployment, suicides, drugs, maritial separations, community breakdowns....cared for the state of a miners lungs...not only did she steal the country's wealth and assets...in turn desecrating the health of the nation...but she even stole the miners pensions...although there is word that the new Labour will seek to take these thefts back...and instigate a hearing on police and legal brutality and deceptions...Thatcher should be treated as a POW ...and traitor...and tried as the Nazis were...for crimes against humanity...
I have no sympathy for people who celebrate her death, but I definitely do have sympathy for this man. I've always thought that, while sad, the closure of the mines was an inevitability. It is sadly much cheaper to import coal from abroad, where workers are paid very little, and besides, in the age of global warming, demand for coal is dropping. If Thatcher hadn't done it, somebody else would have. Many mines had closed anyway by the time Thatcher came to power. There were over 400 mines in the UK in 1950 but under 200 by 1980.
I may have no idea about these issues as an american 18 year old who just found out about this today. But it seems to me the issue was how she pulled the rug from under these people with no plan to help them after.
@@gereraltbone12346 I think that's the problem. She was pretty idiotic about her plan after closing mining. She should have boosted the military industrial complex and scientific research. Fact that she was an atheist didn't fucking help
The dispute was not about a reasonable argument to close pits due to their unsutainability, or unecological basis. Clean coal technology was already about back then, the coal mines was profitabel in all bar a few mines, which could be mostly made economical...and supported easily by other mines...of this there is no doubt. It meant the govt could rely on taxes from these nationalised industries...which were far higher then than now...and they created great wealth around them...for miners spent money on many things...so everyone benefitted...apart from a few of the richest and meanest crooks known to mankind...except you dont tend to know them, as the politicians are their fronts...their stookes...after the Strike...which cost billions...the nations asstes, paid for by miners etc out of their taxes...were stolen by a few rich, who evaded tax...and made millions simply by destroying the unions and workers communties...it was a free for all for a few greedy corrupt...yet the honest folk of the mining areas were labelled the enemy within...now, law and order have fallen apart, the country is skint, but those rich elite are richer than ever...thanks to Thatcher and her boot boys. How people do not undertsnad the real issues at play, and the real truths, is beyond me...but the press and media play a role in this, and they were known for lying during the Strike...many mines could have remained open and used with clean coal technology...lessening our reliance on unstable countries that are usually oppressors of people...and so with such crooks ruling this nation, and others, WW3 is inevitable...perhaps after that we shall finally have peace...
The world was changing, but miners and the like couldn't see it coming, or didn't want to. There is no such thing as a job for life. You simply wanted change to pass you by and for your way of life to continue unaffected, well, that ain't the real world. When the wheel was first invented it was used on a hand-cart which stayed local, but eventually it was used on a motor vehicle which then had the abilities to go worldwide. You can either stay with the hand-cart and get left behind in your little community, or get on the new motor vehicle and take in the world, it's your choice. There are more jobs in this world than digging coal. The fact that those other jobs may not be where you live means you need to move and find them and not stay rooted where you are just because your your fathers lived there and their fathers before them. As nature dictates, "ADAPT OR DIE."
I feel for u and Ur family no kids should be could we had to do the same we brint runners and choles to keep your kids warm when their was no work in Ireland and we went over to England polatinons fill their own pocket and they don't care about me or it doesn't matter what country you come from they all the same wiiiie Irish
Perhaps, but the cruelty of Thatcher was how she left these communities out to dry. Most of Britain still hasn't recovered from having these lifeblood industries taken away, and neither she nor anyone since has ever bothered to give them an alternative.
She cut their paycheck off immediately. She didn’t provide aid. Their children suffered. They went hungry. Some died. Stop being a stooge for the monarchy. You sound like you have the IQ of a potato.
@@alunhughes2632 did millionaire arthur scargill really have miners best interests at heart calling a strike without a ballot . Ironic that the labour party closed more pits than the tories
@@martinmanifold2241 'Ballot' became a dirty word after the NCB offered us a 'productivity bonus scheme'. We held a 'national ballot', for or against. The 'national vote' was against accepting the scheme. So Notts went against the 'national vote result' and did a separate deal with the NCB to bring the 'productivity deal' into their own area. In other words 'Martin' Notts craped on the rest of of the 'Union' by not accepting the result of the 'national ballot'. And people still wonder why we didn't hold a 'national ballot' in 1984.
This is a very stupid take. Of course people may believe their profession or occupation is enjoyable but can still strike for more pay , safer working condition etc. He’s obviously overblowing it to compare it to how life is after magpies closure of the mines.
@@jamesfordjhfcontractingltd1627 How is this good? They were striking for better pay, better working conditions and to stop the destruction of mining communities. Stop bootlicking the rich
The saddest thing about Thatcher dying is it can only ever happen once
@King Royal Yeah, but they didnt do that, now the coal is imported and nothing changed except the miners lost their jobs. If we want to make a difference, we have to phase it out everywhere, not move it to some third world country
She’s still dead. Tory scum
She's doomed millions still to this day in Rhodesia
Yes, truly memorable moments should be able to happen more
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Announcer: The Scotts seem very indifferent.
Actual interviewees: We hate her and want to drive stakes through her heart.
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As a Londoner I was gutted the way she treated the north , industry's do in the end fall apart but to have no plan as your closing them down was a crime .
Well said sir, my sentiments indeed.
Not just that. But the fact coal was stockpiled for 2years.
Thank you so much, it is heartening to be reminded that at least some in the south understands what she did to us.
There was plenty of support but in 1984 no internet etc just looked like southerners didn’t give care but we did , 🤙
She was also BORN in the North
Felt meself welling up with him as he described his daughter being cold. People in the north of england are the salt of the earth in my experience, just very friendly decent people
Bike-Alec There is the Socialist Party, but sadly they don’t often get votes.
@Bike-Alec Blair ruined labour Corbyn had some good ideas that would benefit those ravaged by years of tory under-funding. Sadly seems people weren't convinced, nothing we can do but hope a socialist movement rises up again one day. Too bad Keir Starmer seems to be a new blairite
Brings a tear to my eye to see what thatcher did to the mining communities. Good men and good jobs died when the pits shut.
If you inherit nationalised coal, steel and BL ..all badly run and losing money, you have to blame the previous owner!
@@TomBartram-b1c no you attempt to ease the system into efficiency, not to complelty dismantle it and leave hundreds of thousands of people out of work with no way to maintain their existence.
@@cenburry2811 yeah obvs, it's easy-peasy. That's why there's no unemployment in the world.
@@TomBartram-b1c at least try and salvage these people's jobs. The welfare of the people is more important than thee profits of industry. If there are no alternatives then you make alternatives. People literally had no jobs what are they supposed to do eat grass?
@@cenburry2811 the govt did do that in the eighties through enterprise zones which are geographical areas where new industry was lured in through grants and tax incentives, Nissan in Sunderland being a prime example.
Listening to that man talking about not being able to put the fire on for his family breaks my heart. He laughs but you know after all these years he was still crying inside, Thatcher was a monster, she ruined countless lives
Totally agree. I hate the way her legacy has been "normalized" in recent years. So many painful truths are being put to one side.
thatchers diabolical privatisation legacy still haunts Britain today. along with arrogant corrupt tories.
🇬🇧 Thatcher Forever 🇬🇧
How was she a monster? Using your logic, should we call the person who invented the light bulb a monster for putting candle makers out of a job?
@@machscga6238
After winning the gold medal in swimming, the Irish team was asked which stroke was their favourite.
-Thatchers.
Honk if thatchers deid
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Ding Dong
Man of culture
HONKHONKHONKHONKHONKHONKHONKHONK
These were men wi a trade
Workers of all lands unite.
You have nothing to loose but your chains
Solidarity brothers and sisters.
Workers in each nation ought to have solidarity with and unite with other workers in their own nation. International socialism is nothing but finance capitalism in disguise.
Not with papists.
'Don't expect me to shed any tears for Margaret Thatcher' - I may not have known who she was at the time of her death, but one thing I would have said about it, was something like that quote
As a American born Chechen, some guys tried to get me to be sad for Bush. I am a proud Muslim and dress Muslim, let’s just say I wanted to break a guy’s nose but I just walked away
On the day of Thatcher's funeral I didn't gloat or anything, just went into town and had a quiet pint or two and sat with a little smile on my face. A few ex miners that I knew were doing exactly the same thing...….bliss
You showed your class by doing that sir, well done.
Good ole socialist bludgers hope you can afford that beer
@@Jo-qf1gd Retired now, but never been out of work , except for the year long strike fighting for our jobs. So, Joey, what have you ever done, and yes I am a lifelong socialist.
What you did was reasonable. I agree with thatcher in the extent that the mines needed to be shut as they were draining too much money but I think it was the way she handled it that was bad. She could have given much more warning and given funding to the miners
She didn't close the mines because of money - it was revenge . She wanted power to stay in the hands of the ruling minority . Any industry with a union was either castrated or destroyed .
God I feel his pain, the US used to have hundreds of mining towns, I live in a railroad town. Back in 2000 the union railroad up and left, built a new state of the art facility an hour up the tracks, taking all the jobs, union jobs, with em. Communities been dying ever sense. For this guy thatcher was trying to get england off coal, for me they thought it be easier to start from scratch.
the north doesn’t forget.
Kinda wished the entire country didn't forget
They did. Voted for BoJo, after many years of austerity, just for the sake of Brexit, because they were told that immigrants take their jobs. They didn’t and now about the shortages they could see that actually the country needs more of them. Nevertheless I predict the Tories will get on with it again with another pack of lies that it was about Covid, tough it’s quite obvious for those who can think that Brexit is not done and probably never will be. At least not as it was expected. There was time when I hoped people would not vote against their best interest, but I don’t believe in that anymore. I predict that Tories will win another election next time. If for nothing else but because people memory is short, and the opposition is not united to give a better alternative. Sad.
Oh I think the pork barrell rolling your way may dim those memories somewhat. You'll pay for it though, just not in an obvious way. Never, ever trust a Tory.
Too bad so many of them voted for Boris The Bullshitter 😬
Cannot forget what you cannot see or remember in the first place...@@racinly1374
Dave Douglass what a wonderful dedicated man, who still speaks out for a fair and just society.
the bbc would NEVER
BBC British brainwashing corporation
i feel the same way when people rant on about ronald reagan ..knowing what that man did to people ..countless people hurt due to his policies ..he made living impossible for some
Thatcher and Reagan were similar in many ways. Horrible people
@@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3they were the main faces of the neoliberalism that ruled the West during the 80s. Yes, they were horrible people, but the culprit for the suffering of the working class was the system and their ideology.
@@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 Thatcher and Reagan saved the western world.
Small brain: wearing used shoes
Big brain: burning used shoes for warmth
Not desperate mind wears shoes desperate mind burns them. There fixed it for you.
@@noahvannote417 you spoiled it for him. There, fixed it for you.
I feel his pain
There's no sense in keeping up state support for an industry unable to carry itself in terms of cost. That being said you still have the responsibility of taking care about the workers depending on said industry. You can't simply gut the only lifeline of entire communities and then act like there's nothing you can do.
so now they import coal from other countries losing a piece of politics in the process. They probe up farmers . They wouldnt make it themselves. But everyone understand if we do not we will be depent on other countries for our food . Same with coal. Difference farmers vote conservative . Miners did not . Thatcher did good things but she will never have my respect . A prime minister is supposed to care for all the people . Not let a entire group out in the cold
@@emmanueldekker514 imports costing a fraction of the cost, pretty much same as steel in today’s market
@@TheKkkl123 true. But the same is true with food and fish. Farmers and fishermen get probed up. Mind you i think people deserve better work than mine work. But the way it was handled in the eighties was Just wrong.
@@emmanueldekker514 oh I totally agree, it was done in an awful way, but successive governments hands were tied, pre brexit not allowed to support the steel or the mines, EU law, where as other countries industries have money thrown at them, China for example.
@@TheKkkl123 glad we agree. i did not know about ths EU law. glad we got rid of them.. The french got crazy but hating the french was my favourite pastime anyway. I hope with Boris throwing money at the north Jobs will come in.
The first time in history the 21 gun salute shot the coffin
This man’s desperately trying not to break TOS…
These are the people that Britain should be erecting statues for rather than for Maggie Milk-Snatcher.
I share his views on Thatcher [she sent me to war at 19 years old], but the mines were uneconomical, the fuel comes from abroad as the miners wanted too much money for the job. The sad thing is the region voted Tory in the last election.......... The Tories now are worse, they have no morals.
Labour enabled and covered up child abuse.
Paid for by high taxes of workers...not rich...who evaded tax...just like Cameron's daddy
I have never seen it put so well before.
Coal would have fucking been on the way out anyway. Coal miners are a subject which suffered the most because of a decision which ultimately benefitted the country. What Thatcher did not do is put in place systems to ensure coal miners did not suffer. That was terrible of her.
Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s, but the militant trades unions resisted the inevitable.
Thatcher was into causing untold suffering, so why would she care about anyone...she wished to smash the uni
ons so the rich elite could get their hold on the nations assets...and fleece the taxpayer...putting the wealth in the hands of non tax paying ex pats...who move their money around the tax havens of the world...and they made a pretty penny...the biggest theft of modern times...based upon crippling the nation...and making destitute many communtiies around the country...the pits were almot all profitable...and the mines received the least subsidies in the world...then they have been stealing much of the miners pensions...even to this day. WHAT A GROUP OF CROOKS...but the paper dont tell you the truth...but then few people are interested in truth...too busy making a few bob rather than thinking about their neighbours...
never shed a tear for a scab once a scab always a scab
Define scab?
@@TheKkkl123 Someone willing to take a striking workers job because they couldnt have got the job otherwise.They care about no-one but themselves,have allegiance to no-one,including who they work for, and cannot see long term. They will take almost any abuse from their employer, and dont give a whit about their fellow workers.This is the true makeup of a scab....probably someone like you.
@@pv101 Christ man he just asked a question
@@TheKkkl123 A scab is someone that crosses a picket line. When a union is striking, the owners try to get scabs to continue production.
🇬🇧 Thatcher Forever 🇬🇧
SHE TORE DA HEART OUTTA THISS COMMUNITAE
Was that Chicago, New York...or Hatfield?
Maggie is in the mud 💀
Ay yo
The world is a better place without the old cow
Workers of the Lands Unite!🌹
As an Irishman love hearing that the English hated her also 🇮🇪x🏴
I'm just curious. What did Margaret do?
If you did not like Thatcher, why did you elect Johnson ans support Brexit?????
that was the problem johnson kew that old labourites would vote brexit especially in the northern labour heartlands disgusting back stabbing by traditional labour strongholds
@@FOREST-1966 you know mate, if traditional labour is voting Tory, it's not their fucking problem. How about you take a look in the mirror. Then swinging right might have something to do with your idiots having a Marxist, anti-semitic, terrorist supporting, Britain hating swine namely Jeremy Corbyn as head of the Labour party
@@FOREST-1966 tories are more representative of the working class than Labour are
@@danc101 BoJo went to Oxford. I literally don't understand how you think that this guy represents the working class.
@@simonwauthier2550 it's not what university he went to but his policies that made him appealing to the working class. The fact that working class lifelong labour supporters voted for Boris proves that Labour is out of touch with the people.
She destroyed my life, before I could vote
We knew this...which is why we went a year...and many of us were prepared to keep going...she cared not for the miners...or those who would come later and need jobs and thriving communtiies...she cared only for her power, stature, and in stealing the nations assets and handing them to global elites...who now run the world economy...pariahs all of them...
I went out for the say when her funeral was on TV . No intention of watching a second of that evil woman's funeral
Banging on about mining still. The business became unprofitable and that is why she shut the pits. It doesn’t do to put all your eggs in one basket. She made business decisions. Why should the rest of the country prop you up.
More hated then Blair
I never hated Blair .thatcher was a vile thing
Brexit caused historical amnesia it seems.
Scotland is becoming more passionate in its independence movement.
@@frankieseward8667 I’m mixed with Scotland as I don’t know if they could make it as a country. I think that certainly right now they are too dependent on England but maybe with a bit of time they could possibly do it
It is true Margaret Thatcher treated the miners very harshly, and even though she didn't close the mines down for this reason, we are now in a climate crisis, we now know coal and oil use emits huge amounts of CO2; we must transition away from their use towards renewable sustainable energy production.
Except there wasn't a transition. She just had em closed down and the miners and workers, my family and friends all suffered because we were left out to freeze and go hungry. Also ironically, the food industry (specifically cattle and fish) contribute tons more to greenhouse gas emissions than coal and oil. Despite my background and history I agree that we need to go green but what good is that if you send children down to the cobalt mines and exploit your workers while the middle class and above sit all comfy (elon musk im looking at you!). Like you can't just go green in a day and not have severe repercussions on the workforce. Like build your windmills please I beg you but also let us work on them and transition put jobs to that rather than leave us to rot
she just started buying foreign coal instead.
she helped absolutely no one
maggie should've been shot
@@ChannelAboutWarriors Greatest Prime Minister the UK ever had.
we support the miners stike.
maggie maggie maggie out out out!
I was disappointed when I heard of her death....I wanted her to continue sitting in the house of lords, soiling herself continually forever.
Don't expect me to shed any tears for British. My family fought against British Crown in Cyprus. 1955 - 1959. British are wanted in Greece for war crimes. It's disgusting to see the UK government trying to sweep their atrocities under the rug instead of persecuting all of the terrible British involved. My great grandfather was tortured to death by the British and my grandmother survived but she had to run to escape torture, and she managed to hide in a well, gashing and breaking her leg on the descent. She died a few years later in my mothers arms. I know that a few British people had nothing to do with the invasion of Cyprus, Greece, but there is still some semblance of hate within me towards British.
I am Spartan in former lives...but lived in the mining area close to this man in the video. A small no of rich elites, and religious zealots have made it hard for many centuries...so its oft not the British or Persians at fault...its their leaders and supporters...who manage to usurp power. I was a miner...and we were tortured, falsely arrested, and painted as criminals by the press...it is those in power we should worry about, unless they are prepared to sacrifice their life in service to their people, as I did in Sparta...when I walked the earth as one Leonadis...King of Sparta.
skill issue
@@exucia669 I believe British society yearns for history due to its relative lack compared to the Western world and Europe like Greece, leading them to be receptive to anyone who speaks on these topics.
In the 50s in Britain,British people used to get beaten up & even occasionally killed,in both:police custody & in jails.
EOKA were terrorists & the British punished terrorists & their sympathisers brutally,at that time.
The Greeks also were just as brutal too & so were the Turks.
That’s how it was & so you should just get over it.
I won't miss here
You know one thing I liked about this time: you knew what your job was.
It helped that you knew you had a job...
Sooner or later the coal industry was going to collapse, the Miners strike brought this change more quickly.
The greed of the rich elite tax dodgers from the stock broking communities brought it to an end...nothing less, nothing more...
I just wish I could have been with her in her last years with Alzheimer's to tell her "Denis is dead" and watch her go through that grief every day.
What a twisted individual you are
Nah Joseph she deserves it
@@waluigistan3974 your so sick it’s actually mad😂
Comedy gold 😂
Should we have kept coal mining even today (even with the mass move away from coal globally?). Seems unlikely they would still be around today no matter what.
Also didn't more pits close under Wilson and Callaghan than under Thatcher? Of course the strikes and publicity were under her, but the transition away from coal was a long time in the making.
Just curious, at what point do we think of the unions part in all this??
The unions stood for their members and against exploitation. That was their part in this and anyone who tells you otherwise is either a liar with an agenda or a mug.
@@jimmytgoose476 don’t be deluded. Scargill was a self obsessed power hungry baron who didn’t give a dam. Was all abt a power struggle. Even his own hierarchy deserted him when they realised his mission. Can see you were fooled.
And i can see you believed the half of the story Rupert Murdoch wanted you to hear .
This is so true.
Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s.
In the future they will start mining again.
The mines were filled in and built over.
Lots of coal still there though...@@MarkHarrison733
They are easily reopened...and clean coal would certainly be preferable to oil and gas from the crooks in the world
Based
We need more leaders like Thatcher.
They have celebrations in the club to celebrate her death, ding dong the witch is dead
If the mines had remained open then Dave would now probably be suffering from the lung disease coal workers' pneumoconiosis. His choice to regret this I suppose, but does he really regret that his sons and grandsons won't be going through this?
You think a PM who destroyed the nation, caused a war to regain power...and destroyed many lives around the country through unemployment, suicides, drugs, maritial separations, community breakdowns....cared for the state of a miners lungs...not only did she steal the country's wealth and assets...in turn desecrating the health of the nation...but she even stole the miners pensions...although there is word that the new Labour will seek to take these thefts back...and instigate a hearing on police and legal brutality and deceptions...Thatcher should be treated as a POW ...and traitor...and tried as the Nazis were...for crimes against humanity...
I have no sympathy for people who celebrate her death, but I definitely do have sympathy for this man.
I've always thought that, while sad, the closure of the mines was an inevitability. It is sadly much cheaper to import coal from abroad, where workers are paid very little, and besides, in the age of global warming, demand for coal is dropping. If Thatcher hadn't done it, somebody else would have. Many mines had closed anyway by the time Thatcher came to power. There were over 400 mines in the UK in 1950 but under 200 by 1980.
I may have no idea about these issues as an american 18 year old who just found out about this today. But it seems to me the issue was how she pulled the rug from under these people with no plan to help them after.
@@gereraltbone12346 I think that's the problem. She was pretty idiotic about her plan after closing mining. She should have boosted the military industrial complex and scientific research. Fact that she was an atheist didn't fucking help
@@gereraltbone12346 As an American you appear to have recognised and acknowledged something which many in the UK still can't manage to do.
The dispute was not about a reasonable argument to close pits due to their unsutainability, or unecological basis. Clean coal technology was already about back then, the coal mines was profitabel in all bar a few mines, which could be mostly made economical...and supported easily by other mines...of this there is no doubt. It meant the govt could rely on taxes from these nationalised industries...which were far higher then than now...and they created great wealth around them...for miners spent money on many things...so everyone benefitted...apart from a few of the richest and meanest crooks known to mankind...except you dont tend to know them, as the politicians are their fronts...their stookes...after the Strike...which cost billions...the nations asstes, paid for by miners etc out of their taxes...were stolen by a few rich, who evaded tax...and made millions simply by destroying the unions and workers communties...it was a free for all for a few greedy corrupt...yet the honest folk of the mining areas were labelled the enemy within...now, law and order have fallen apart, the country is skint, but those rich elite are richer than ever...thanks to Thatcher and her boot boys. How people do not undertsnad the real issues at play, and the real truths, is beyond me...but the press and media play a role in this, and they were known for lying during the Strike...many mines could have remained open and used with clean coal technology...lessening our reliance on unstable countries that are usually oppressors of people...and so with such crooks ruling this nation, and others, WW3 is inevitable...perhaps after that we shall finally have peace...
The world was changing, but miners and the like couldn't see it coming, or didn't want to.
There is no such thing as a job for life. You simply wanted change to pass you by and for your way of life to continue unaffected, well, that ain't the real world.
When the wheel was first invented it was used on a hand-cart which stayed local, but eventually it was used on a motor vehicle which then had the abilities to go worldwide. You can either stay with the hand-cart and get left behind in your little community, or get on the new motor vehicle and take in the world, it's your choice. There are more jobs in this world than digging coal. The fact that those other jobs may not be where you live means you need to move and find them and not stay rooted where you are just because your your fathers lived there and their fathers before them.
As nature dictates, "ADAPT OR DIE."
except the analogy doesnt work at all because coal wasn't anywhere near obsolete as the hand-cart...
🇬🇧 Thatcher Forever 🇬🇧
Putting the name of a traitor next to the British flag doesn't make them any less of a traitor.
@@a70770 Churchill was a traitor.
Mrs Thatcher was a great lady, coal is a thing of the past, she helped my grandparents buy their council house for half the market value
And this act later caused the housing bubble and housing shortage 🤦♂️
@@tinytank6642 Actually that was Blair's open borders.
And because she didn’t build any more council homes to replace the ones sold, we are now where we are
I feel for u and Ur family no kids should be could we had to do the same we brint runners and choles to keep your kids warm when their was no work in Ireland and we went over to England polatinons fill their own pocket and they don't care about me or it doesn't matter what country you come from they all the same wiiiie Irish
Tbh coal mining was already a dying industry in Britain. Thatcher obviously knew this and decided to allocate money elsewhere.
Perhaps, but the cruelty of Thatcher was how she left these communities out to dry. Most of Britain still hasn't recovered from having these lifeblood industries taken away, and neither she nor anyone since has ever bothered to give them an alternative.
if it died out slowing people would of slowly migrated away ,by taking it all away it multiples that 10x over and overwhelms communities
She cut their paycheck off immediately. She didn’t provide aid. Their children suffered. They went hungry. Some died. Stop being a stooge for the monarchy. You sound like you have the IQ of a potato.
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Thatcher's actions were wrong
The premise was right but the way she executed it could have been better. Like much better. Like I can’t say how much better
not coool maN
Arthur scargill is the other villian
Depends on which side you were on.
@@alunhughes2632 did millionaire arthur scargill really have miners best interests at heart calling a strike without a ballot . Ironic that the labour party closed more pits than the tories
@@martinmanifold2241 'Ballot' became a dirty word after the NCB offered us a 'productivity bonus scheme'. We held a 'national ballot', for or against. The 'national vote' was against accepting the scheme. So Notts went against the 'national vote result' and did a separate deal with the NCB to bring the 'productivity deal' into their own area. In other words 'Martin' Notts craped on the rest of of the 'Union' by not accepting the result of the 'national ballot'. And people still wonder why we didn't hold a 'national ballot' in 1984.
Beautifully put . Now if only the Sun had printed that . Oh wait.... THAT'S why they never printed it .
@@alunhughes2632 Scargill began a fight he could not win in a failed attempt to bring down the elected government.
It couldn’t have been that good, you were all ways on strike !!!!!!!
This is a very stupid take. Of course people may believe their profession or occupation is enjoyable but can still strike for more pay , safer working condition etc.
He’s obviously overblowing it to compare it to how life is after magpies closure of the mines.
Not as stupid as going on strike all the time… at the end of the day they all lost there jobs
@@jamesfordjhfcontractingltd1627 How is this good? They were striking for better pay, better working conditions and to stop the destruction of mining communities. Stop bootlicking the rich
A totally we weren't striking for more pay and working conditions. We were striking to save our communities.
So, according to you, they should've starved? That is what you are saying
Who was the most EVIL: Thatcher or Hitler?
Hitler, obviously.
I don’t care how much you disliked Thatcher’s views, Hitler was the worst man to ever exist and that’s undebatable.
@@steviedavidson5130 Who was the worst WOMAN?
@Ignacio Peñafiel Urzúa Are you too DUMB to answer it?
@Ignacio Peñafiel Urzúa Did you live under the Thatcher REGIME?
Best PM the country has ever had.
Don't you mean dictator.
@@stephendavies8510 do you even know what that word means? If it wasnt for her we would all live like the Soviets in the 80s.
How deluded must you be
At least shes in the mud now
Thank you
Best thing ever to happen to these people! One day they will realize live is not about being 'underground' ---that is death itself!!
Come live in Russia, Venezuela or Cuba for 1 month and you will shed a lot of tears for not having her anymore, trust me
Yes right naziliberal 🤡
non-sensical comment
Thatcher didn't make the rules, she only dictated them!! seriously you think she made those rules???? get a grip!
maggies in the mud anyway
Thatcher destroyed communities. Get a grip.
@@andrewbartlett8942 she didn't make the rules so you are wrong, she only dictated them
How was it a way where you become a man when they all were minors? Doesn’t make sense you know.
He’s not Scott’s he’s from the north east Newcastle I think