There is a quote from the Vedic Traditions which I am not certain of the source. But it is so concise that it cuts like a knife - pitiless towards our bleeding need to understand. But it goes down much easier if - as you described - it comes in phases. 3 phases. 1. The World is illusory. 2. Only Brahman is Real. 3. Brahman is the World. Any one of these alone is an heresy of one form or another. But all together, they show us the process of The One Disclosing the secret that it is the only thing there is. Each austere Tradition has a way of handling this - as well as a place for those who cannot understand or believe it to remain as they are with the full Grace of Heaven protecting them. Each is provided for by the All, in All.
This is what you get from studying theology? Who can understand this stuff? I've been listening for a few minutes and I feel as if I'm listening to a foreign language that I cannot understand.
And philosophy. To an outsider, I'm sure it sounds like gibberish at times. Theology and philosophy have a long tradition they have built for themselves through sustained discourses. Basically, they developed their own language in order to talk about their fundamental questions. This is just like any other science and the coinage of new terms.
For mine, understanding the Greeks (pre-Socratics, Plato and Aristotle, and then later thinkers - the neo-Platonists) is a prerequisite for grasping this conversation. Very much worth it. For most of us, the Greeks (apologies purists) are our first foray into seeing that the world might be understood in different ways (all the way down).
Noa Napoleon - That's the way it is when you first get into this stuff. The very first book in philosophy that I ever read was by David Bentley Hart. It was profound, deep, and as a noob I found it quite difficult (especially since he uses every word in the English language). Now, some years later, I'm starting to swim a little better in these waters.
If he were preaching a sermon, he would speak very differently. His audience here is prolly all egg-heads and philosophy nerds. The internet brings this - previously insular - community out where everyone can see and hear. It can be quite the culture-shock. But if it's not your cup of tea, just remember, they _can_ speak in terms you'd understand _if_ they were actually speaking to you. Peace.
What a load of pretentious waffle. This guy could have save himself a load of grief and effort if he’d just studied science. Pity he didn’t start by defining what a soul is and then provide evidence for said soul. He could have cut the talk to 1 minute. The Templeton foundation paid for this?
My OpenMind I m sorry, but that's retarded. His talk is about the soul and it's metaphysics not the evidence that it exists. Imagine if anytime biologists had to give a talk about a topic in evolutionary biology, they had to prove the theory of evolution by natural selection. Or that cosmologists had to prove that the big bang happened everytime they said anything about the universe. But for theists, the standards are different and they have to prove their whole worldview at once every time they speak.
Great material.
@Clark Harney what is matter, doesn't mind, what is mind, doesn't matter 😂
Thank you.
There is a quote from the Vedic Traditions which I am not certain of the source. But it is so concise that it cuts like a knife - pitiless towards our bleeding need to understand. But it goes down much easier if - as you described - it comes in phases. 3 phases.
1. The World is illusory.
2. Only Brahman is Real.
3. Brahman is the World.
Any one of these alone is an heresy of one form or another. But all together, they show us the process of The One Disclosing the secret that it is the only thing there is.
Each austere Tradition has a way of handling this - as well as a place for those who cannot understand or believe it to remain as they are with the full Grace of Heaven protecting them.
Each is provided for by the All, in All.
Renaissance magic kept the truth of things going through the dry times - absolutely
Anna Bonta Moreland hasn't aged well
10/10
a bit trans-phobic, are we?? 😆
...wow...sing Goddess
John Milbank looks like he could be related to Edward Feser.
This is what you get from studying theology? Who can understand this stuff? I've been listening for a few minutes and I feel as if I'm listening to a foreign language that I cannot understand.
And philosophy. To an outsider, I'm sure it sounds like gibberish at times. Theology and philosophy have a long tradition they have built for themselves through sustained discourses. Basically, they developed their own language in order to talk about their fundamental questions. This is just like any other science and the coinage of new terms.
For mine, understanding the Greeks (pre-Socratics, Plato and Aristotle, and then later thinkers - the neo-Platonists) is a prerequisite for grasping this conversation. Very much worth it. For most of us, the Greeks (apologies purists) are our first foray into seeing that the world might be understood in different ways (all the way down).
Noa Napoleon - That's the way it is when you first get into this stuff. The very first book in philosophy that I ever read was by David Bentley Hart. It was profound, deep, and as a noob I found it quite difficult (especially since he uses every word in the English language). Now, some years later, I'm starting to swim a little better in these waters.
@@alittlebitoflight Yes!
If he were preaching a sermon, he would speak very differently.
His audience here is prolly all egg-heads and philosophy nerds. The internet brings this - previously insular - community out where everyone can see and hear. It can be quite the culture-shock. But if it's not your cup of tea, just remember, they _can_ speak in terms you'd understand _if_ they were actually speaking to you.
Peace.
What a load of pretentious waffle.
This guy could have save himself a load of grief and effort if he’d just studied science.
Pity he didn’t start by defining what a soul is and then provide evidence for said soul. He could have cut the talk to 1 minute.
The Templeton foundation paid for this?
My OpenMind I m sorry, but that's retarded. His talk is about the soul and it's metaphysics not the evidence that it exists. Imagine if anytime biologists had to give a talk about a topic in evolutionary biology, they had to prove the theory of evolution by natural selection. Or that cosmologists had to prove that the big bang happened everytime they said anything about the universe. But for theists, the standards are different and they have to prove their whole worldview at once every time they speak.
Flying Monk so you believe in life after death? Why?
My OpenMind I didn't say anything about me believing in afterlife. You're good at assuming things without evidence, right?
Flying Monk
what is a soul?
Why would you need a soul?
Etc etc etc
My OpenMind Did I say anything about me believing in a soul?