I wasn't being totally honest with you. An EXJWs confession.
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- Just June here!
Sometimes we have to discuss things that aren't pleasant. This is one of those times. My alcoholism was affecting my ability to be honest while creating content for my channel when I started out. I felt the need to give you the whole story as well as the positive outcome.
If you need to reach out or someone to talk to, you can always email me at justjune1973@gmail.com
As always, be yourself and be well. :)
My husband says, well if any religion could drive a person to drink, it is Watchtower.
Thanks for sharing. I was disfellowshipped for having a drinking problem. Since I got blacked out too many times in front of my friends. They actually had partied hard in the past. Instead of helping me, they shunned me. My drinking only got worse. I tried AA for some years and went to rehab twice. Didn’t work. Unfortunately, AA I drank the worst while in AA. It reminded me of the JW’s. Im glad it works for you. I’m still extremely scarred. I still have no friends. I had hundreds of jw friends. I was even a jw dj. They could’ve tried to help me. Instead, they disfellowshipped me. I have extreme anxiety and severe depression. I told them about it. They knew. Now it’s gotten worse. I do occasionally go to a concert. That makes me happy. It’s about the only thing. I do still have my family. They don’t go anymore. My mom has seen the evil in that cult. That’s the only thing that is keeping me alive. I’d have offed myself years ago if they had shunned me. I just wanted to share. Keep up the good work!
Hang in there my friend! The JW organization is cruel and evil, especially with those who need help the most!!! I'm glad your family has stood by your side and you are still here! You are worth each and every day of life! I'm proud of you for keeping your head above water despite not always wanting to! You're a wounded person that deserves good in life!!! 🩷💗💖
@@JustDeannaJune Thank you for those kind words. Hearing your story made me feel less alone.
Please keep reaching out for support until you find a source you feel totally safe in. Private therapy is often the best for some people. You can do this. You must. Your body, soul, heart and those who care about you want you to. Keep looking until you find the right type of help for you. ❤
@@gailresources3970 Thank you.
@@gailresources3970 thank you so very much!!! I do go to therapy now on a regular basis and it's really helping! 😉
Thank you for sharing your story & your struggles June. I agree with you, there are plenty of channels talking about whatever lunacy the JW cult leaders are up to now, & while I think watching a few of them can be therapeutic, we’ve still got our lives to put back together (or together in the first place). We’ve still got to work out what do we do with our lives now we’re out of the cult/ org/ whatever each individual wants to refer to it as. Some are just trying to work out who they are in the first place now they’re finally free to think/ decide for themselves. We’re all trying to work through the trauma & sometimes all we need is to know there is someone else out there who understands & who just gets it. It’s difficult to find friends & community as an adult in the first place, it’s even harder to do so when your personal boundaries & social skills have been deliberately stunted by being in a cult.
I’ve been working through my issues since before I left & it’s been extremely difficult, it’s also been extremely rewarding. Even though crying is uncomfortable, it is an incredible healer. I’m all cried out for the god/ god’s of the bible, there’s absolutely no tears left, none of it is even remotely real to me anymore. Now I’ve discovered a new interest/ hobby in researching folklore & mythology from all parts of human history & places & I have a new appreciation for humanity itself. I now personally see the bible as another book of folklore & mythology written by men who were either trying to make sense of the world around them or trying to gain power & control over others. What I do find creepy is when people start quoting scripture like the words have some kind of magical power or something. I have no problem with anyone’s personal beliefs (as long as they are not causing harm to others), I’m all about religious freedom & like you I’m touched that someone took the time to think of me. But I wish they’d stop quoting scriptures like they’re trying to use them to cast some kind of spell, it’s not going to achieve the result they think it will, it just makes them look unstable. Using the words in a book to prove it’s own legitimacy, basically proves the opposite.🤦🏼♀️
Anyway I hope to see many more videos from you in the future & I hope next week will be much better for you. Always remember there are plenty of us that care, even from the other side of the world & from the opposite hemisphere.🙃 The JW GB want nothing more than for us to just fall apart & be miserable for the rest of our lives, we owe it to ourselves to heal the best we can with what resources we have available & then go on to live happily without them.
Your words of comfort really touched me and I appreciate you so very much for taking the time to write them!!! And I couldn't agree with you more! We all need to be supportive to one another and not make road blocks just because we don't have the exact same beliefs... I hope you have an amazing day and you have already set my week in a more positive direction!!! 😉💖✨
You're smart! The more we focus on something, the more what we focus on influences our lives. That is why our grandmothers used to say: change your mind, you'll change your life. That is exactly what you did. Congrats dear June.
Absolutely!!
I hope you get yourself together and put it all behind you! Best wishes to you!!❤️
Omg so glad to see you have posted! I've been thinking about you lately and hoping you were okay! ❤❤❤
Loads of love and support from London ❤❤❤xxx
Thank you so much for being Just June. Well done. Take care of yourself and be well. Thanks again.
You are really providing a valuable service by sharing…service to both ex-jw’s and people working towards recovery. I fit neither category but really appreciate your openness.
My heart goes out to you❤😢I can totally relate regarding my family not listening to me and ignoring me!🥺😢😭 I'm sorry! It really shows the ungodly treatment from our loved ones!! I blame Watchtower!! Ty for your honesty & input!! Best wishes!❤🙏
Thanks for a great video, Deanna June, so meaningful! I am sure your continued efforts will be a great strenght (a hope to hang on to) for many people.
Thank you Pat, I always appreciate your kindness and support!!! You are an amazing person! 🩷
Thank you for you! I appreciate the way you share your honesty. You have filled my glass today 😊
Your comment fills mine! 😉
Just June,I grew up in a family that was either alcoholic or addicted to prescription drugs and I must say that alcoholism really does affect a persons ability to be honest. There were other truisms sprinkled throughout as well which made your expressions , so honestly given, very powerful. Even majestic. You have a healthy heart girl.
Thanks for sharing that June. Hopefully your story can help others 🌹
Thank you Rose! I appreciate that greatly and I hope you are doing well! 🩷
As we figure out who we are & clean up our messes and we make a change in ourselves, therefor we make a change in the world & the world changes.
Namaste Sis⭐️
You are extremely brave … WE ARE THE POWER
Love You ❤
Thank you! Words of love that I sincerely appreciate! Love you back! 💗
Love the honesty & sincerity June 👍🏽. Glad you’re successfully working on your sobriety & I look forward to seeing what this channel will be. (I also work on not swearing as much in public as I do in private 😂).
Deanna thank you for sharing. I figured either you were struggling or took a break . Your video was beautiful and touched my heart . If you start to feel like making videos is too much again, you don’t owe us an explanation. Take care of yourself first. 💕
I appreciate that! Truly! 🩷
Thanks June for sharing. You’re not alone my dear. Things will get better. This cult has done a number on us.
We have all suffered.
Just know that you’re free.
For your own sanity you sometimes have to check out from all things exJW and JW.
You’re strong for not running back to the organization when you started having difficulties and for this you have to give yourself a pat on your back.
Lots of love from England.
Thank you very much!!! I just woke up and that was such a kind comment to start my day with! I appreciate you!!! ☺️🩷
THANKS FOR POSTING. Appreciate your honesty and what is helping you through. Lifestyle, income and sense of community is gone for me. Kinda live in a shut down state. Do not feel the emotion of anger. I cried in anguish as a JW. Have occasional breakdown now. Probably have strong wish I did not exist. I guess one of the reasons I may have found comfort in JW org was just the ongoing concern about global and national issues. I drink lots of coffee!! That is my drug!! Do not want to be preached at or go to any church. I can respect some. You tube videos act as therapy for me since out of the picture to have therapy. Continue your progress!!❤❤😊😊
I am sorry you have been struggling. You look like a nice person. I don't even drink but I am addicted to my cellphone, so I try to understand... I hope you get better
Thank you for an honest and emotional video. Your experience resonates with me like no other. Today I found strength through your shared feelings. You give hope that we can regain our lives, albeit tenuous. It is possible and we’re accountable and responsible for living our lives in an authentic way. I look forward to all your content👍🏻❤️
💗 I'm finding open and honest to be the better way, even if it's not easy all the time. I'm thankful for the ability to make content and finally have the confidence to put it out there, but most of all, to hopefully reach others that feel similarly and need encouragement like I do. ☺️
This is important information because you do go through ups and downs. I still struggle with intense anxiety. Then depression. Then in some ways relief. But it's a cycle.
I learnt to swear alot after leaving. It's so cathartic. Everyone that leaves has addictions. It so happens that alcohol is one of them. The danger is having only one thing to reach out to - alcohol. Hope things improve for you.
Just June. I really enjoyed your talk. You are very attractive and so pleased you didn’t swear because it’s important as it is easy to make one’s self ugly and you are not that. I am sure you will be able to help others your voice is so comforting. Just be you. All the best on your journey. I was in for forty years never felt right all that time but out nearly a year now and I have learnt a few points from you and appreciate it Thankyou. I just know this talk openly will strengthen you so much. Bye for now. Pearly Kay.
Awesome interview June. Have a wonderful evening.
Thank you and you too! 💙🌙✨
I agree! They set people up for failure. Isolating ones from friends and family is the cruelest thing people can do. I admire your bravery. 👊🏼
Thank you Steph! And It's totally true! Loved ones need support the most when struggling and trying to find sobriety.
Beautiful analogy of the half full and have empty. Events and people fill it or help suck it dry.
Hi there, I just wanted to say you look great and good for you for having the courage to say all that to your followers. I am a widow And a never in. I married a man who was 3rd or 4th Gen. He was sexuallu abused by an MS or Elder at 9 or 10. I didn't know until a few years before he died. He drank himself to death, sort of. He went to more rehabs than I can count. He died 7 years ago and never got to see this movement. He also had a hard time with AA, and I never understood until I have heard a lot of Ex's say they couldn't do AA because of the religious aspect. I'm happy it works for you, keep working it!
I'm so very sorry for your loss and for what your husband endured! What a terrible thing the watchtower organization puts on so many! They hide their cunning ways in plain sight of so many, and ppl don't even realize. That's why it's so important for ALL of us ExJWs on UA-cam to get the word out! AA is tricky! I actually do Agnostic AA meetings online. Because I can't stomach regular AA meetings. Way too much like going to the kingdom hall for me. Agnostic AA is a similar premise as regular AA but takes the whole higher power thing down a few notches. And God is never mentioned. It's a great alternative for those dealing with religious trauma. Thank you for reaching out and commenting! I wish you all the best!!! ☺️💗
You can beat this. Stay strong!❤...
We all self medicate the religious trauma and complex ptsd in different ways. I'll bet you that everyone who left or got thrown out had some kind of crutch before they figured out a healthy way to work through things. You are loved and you are worthy.
Thank you so much!!! So are you!!!
Thank you June for your honesty and transparency! It is in times such as this that we can help others that are struggling. Alcoholism is rampant in my family. It is a life long struggle to stay sober. Your life long abuse from an organization that you gave your all to is so traumatizing. And on top of that , all the people you loved and thought they loved you let you down with their silence. I had rather be slapped than be shunned. It is a wicked and manipulative tactic used by JW organization. If you should ever to decide not to make any more videos! That would be fine. I don’t mind watching reruns 😊 The one video that you did about your waking up . Was such a powerful message. And it will continue to do much good as long as UA-cam is around!
As far as what you said to your friend that was giving you the silent treatment. Maybe she needed to hear it. I personally believe that is not our mistakes that define us but how we handle it after we blow up! You sent your friend a sweet sincere apology. It is up to her now.
Try not to be to hard on yourself. You are very special and deeply loved by your children and husband and many non JW friends. It will probably take a long time to find peace with all you have gone through.
I was married to a preacher for 35 years and he decided to walk away almost 4 years ago. My son was so devastated by this that he lives in such an anxious state of mind. I am not over it. But I am trying to live the best life I can for my children and my little grandchildren ❤ PS this is my longest post ever! I am slow at texting lol. Blessings from Oklahoma City 😊
Thank you Carolyn! I appreciate you taking the time to write out such a detailed and loving response! It means a lot to me! 💗
I'm learning to forgive myself, as well as forgive others. I've learned through therapy and addiction recovery programs that you need to work on the healing of you first, before you can do so for others. Just like when an oxygen mask drops down on an airplane, you are told to put on your mask 1st before assisting those next to you, even if it's your young child. Because if you aren't in the best possible health and place in life, you really won't be able to assist anyone around you effectively for a sustainable amount of time. So I work daily on my 1st, with that quickly followed by helping those around me and within my ability.
Hiding from my alcoholism only perpetuates the issue. So that's.one of the reasons why I'm so open. I also hope to help others by telling my story honestly and explaining what has helped me personally to stay sober.
I know I won't be making videos for a super long time, my life is very busy and squeezing in the time to tape videos, interview and come up with ideas... The prep ,& editing is very time consuming as well. But with it... For now, we will see what the future holds
Thank you again and hopefully see you on the next video 💖✨
My point in sharing this with you, on my Brother-In Law, and the Presiding Overseers wife, is that you really don't know who is trying to "lord it over on you" or be a somebody, who is playing "Elder" and why, and yet you can let these people take control of your life, and destroy you.
When I was pregnant with my second child, I had morning sickness and was taking a nap. I heard this "bang at the door" I was groggy, and she was standing there, spitting with anger, and she points at my stomach "How did you get this one?"!!!! She went off on a rage, again, pointing her index finger at my abdomen, with her same memorized diatribe, didn't I believe in Armageddon and stomped off in a "snit." June, I stood there, utterly speechless! I told my husband and mother-in-law, do you think my husband would speak to the Presiding Overseer her husband? No. My mother-in-law says "Well most Jehovah's Witnesses aren't like that" missing the deeper meaning full point, anyway, and yet I was gifted at picking up "subtleties." I knew what she felt guilty about her whole, and she called be a JW a "Dog's Life."
Another one, was that we were walking down at the beach, and I picked up a starfish. She grabs it from my hand, tosses it into the Ocean, and says "Put it back, they don't have Resurrections!" She licked her lips, with her own anxiety. Do you follow?
Wow! That's unbelievable! And quite sad that she has such a mean outlook on things because of being a JW. Yeah, I wasn't following your line of reason at all before you explained. Thank you for the further explanation! 😉
@@JustDeannaJune It was deep "self hatred" and guilt that she projected on other persons for her abortion. I think her husband the "Presiding Overseer" felt guilty too. I think he was born out of "wedlock" and there was a time when you were made fun of, and so what he had done, was jump in a group to where he could pretend he was now "One Of God's Chosen" people, and erase the abortion in their own minds, asuage and oil their tortured heads. He encouraged his wife to get, and white wash feelings of inferiority. But again, these are deep dark family secrets, and people that for some reason, you let rule your life, and pretend they are someone important. =
@@JustDeannaJune Here is another thing. Some psychologists can past the exam, write papers using footnotes of other person's work, get an executive typist to type the whole thing, today, you can use GPT chat, but are they really good at reading people? I say you are lucky if you get one, who can, and they will delve into your family and "family "secrets" but if you don't know what they are, it can take years for you to start ruminating on the things your parents did that didn't make sense. The "family secrets" as to why they became Jehovah's' Witnesses can go several generations back. Then it hits you June. You go, "Oh, my God, I am paying for family dynamics that I didn't have a thing to do with???"
@@JustDeannaJune On good psychologists and psychiatrists. The really good ones have long waiting lists, and many no longer take insurance. So what this says to me, is that you have to know about psychology yourself, and keep yourself sane, before you end up in their offices. The most knowledgeable out of the gate you have to know about is "narcissism." Dr. Ramani, "Melanie Tonia Evans" are excellent sources for starters on You Tube. Knowledge on John Bradshaw's "The Cultic Family" who are drawn to the larger institutionalized cults will help you leap light years in understanding. The narcissistic relationship with a spouse is really no different than the narcissistic relationship forced on you in religious cults for control.
Honesty, is the antidote 2 our disease thinking❤❤❤❤
Agreed!
Gday June, your very brave to share your story ,shunning makes us act crazy the shunning has given me suisidel thoughts..I turned to Marajuana after dissociating and got hooked ,I traded my alcohol addiction to a Marajuana addiction. Now it,s over a year I,ve been free from both of them. I became a evangelical Atheist preaching Atheism to everyone I met, until I realised, I,m not a jw anymore and I don't have to pioneer. I,m now a practicing Atheist and I just love to sin ,also a born-again atheist but I won't be preaching to you, if ex jws find another faith and community I,m happy for them. Religion shouldn't divide us ex jws only the Watchtower does that. The Watchtower wants to make Bible movies and they want brothers to have real authentic beards fake beards cost to much money ,thanks again dear sister June for sharing your story warm apostate love Justin Porter ex jw ❤️
I didn't add it into my story, but I at one point added marijuana into my life as well. But I'm free of both alcohol and marijuana as well! I'm understand wanting to share your beliefs at first, once you woke up from watchtower, but realizing that was a 'watchtower' thing to do helped me to just allow everyone be themselves and appreciate each individual for that! Thank you for your kind words of encouragement and love! They mean a lot to me! 💖✨
@JustDeannaJune There's some mysterious force running the show ,what it is? Nobody knows, I,m very agnostic now .
I will never stop❤
this yinzz-er is always rooting for Just June 👍
Awe, thank you! I appreciate you "nat! 😉
I will tell you another one, June. And I am very good at reading people. But the Presiding Overseer's wife, who studied with me to placate my mother-in-law? Little things she said over the years, and her reaction to abusing Sisters in the Congregation who were pregnant, like yelling at them, and spitting with anger why she did it, was that after her first son was born, she got pregnant again and got an abortion. Not only would she "insult" pregnant sisters with "Don't you believe Armageddon Is Coming, you must not?" She would go work at the county fair in a white uniform for three days, in the nursery, and insult parents who she didn't think took care of their baby right. One day she "'went off" on a carnie worker, and said, snottily "Animals take care of their young better than this!" The girl started crying. Now she and her husband had money, wouldn't it have been more Christian of her to purchse baby wipes, and a box of diapers? No, she was punishing herself in Watchtower, and she was punishing everyone she came in contact with. She also instructed Sisters, thought it was her duty to use 'Natural Lamb Prophylactics." Can you believe that? She did it to me, when I was pregnant!
I’d like to add that we all say things we regret at times but sometimes things need to be said so we can move on xxx
True... ☺️
Since I woke, my struggle was if God that I thought existed is not in my life and heart what kinda person will I be. Being free from a cult is absolutely right but from God? This point was so hard for me at first of how am I going to make decisions. But I realized I need to see the world. To see as many ways, cultures, beliefs, livings in anywhere people are living. Since then I noticed that I didn’t need to be so serious thinking what is purpose of life. We just live cuz am Alive in the environment given. Just need to improve the environment and decide for yourself to better one. Hopefully by staying strong with love.
but you are not the creator. You cannot make anything with your Words. There is still an ultimate TRUTH. The second law of thermodynamics says there is a source. Jesus spoke us into the Book of Life for a reason.
@@randomCHELdad “For a reason”, so a reason to let the End Time Signs be fulfilled so that God can be proud His prophecies does occur and will let humankind suffer? Did you forget it’s Bible God that PREDICTED End Time Signs and left the earth? How can a Supreme Love knowing those End Time Signs will bring terrible suffering continually to every single creation even to the nature of His, but He just leaves to heaven and keeps watching everything suffer. What sufferings He sees are not enough of God to let him come back? Not argument, since I was 2nd generation JW I always wanted to question this to Bible believers. But couldn’t to jw cuz if did to them I would be reported to elders for bringing up logical questions.
@@lh1673 because God even until the end will not force anybody into obedience. He created free will and is upholding it. He left to heaven so that the Holy Spirit may dwell here, and be sealed in us when we accept the sacrifice, the blood on the cross, one payment for ALL debt! (hint the Catholics just do pagan vampire blood ritual drinking)
@@randomCHELdadThanks for reply, but it still will be the same to me as former jw have to believe that God saves if OBEY and ENDURE SUFFERINGS. I will understand enduring CHALLENGES, but if I’m someone Supernatural that claims I’m Good and Love I will never predict something TERRIBLE as those End Signs, if I know it’s coming I rather STOP it, best NEVER let it happen. Perhaps this thought is the difference. Well, thanks for discussion, best wishes to your faith.
@@lh1673 God provides strength through suffering so that we may know what true bliss is when we have reached the end of suffering. If we do not suffer we do not know bliss.
Another point you may be able to use, is that leaving a cult is no different than a death, and is the very same "grief process" many have used "Elizabeth-Kubler's" Ross's 5 stages of grief. There is disbelief, depression and anger. Her grief process can be applied to a break up and many other facts of life, and it does not have to follow any specific order. All of the information, we have, should be like a warm hand on the shoulder guiding you out of the fog, to take less time, and make it easier to see your feet.
I also left the organization and went to AA. After a while I couldn't do AA either because of the similar dynamics both organizations have like the group think mentality, the never doing enough or going to enough meetings, the victim shaming and gaslighting "well, what was your part in it" like you deserved being abused for something.
It was like: If you abuse someone your the a-hole and if someone abused you it's because you must've been the a-hole and anything you're just trying to play the victim and blaming others. Which is the summation I got from that organization via sponsors who AREN'T LICENSED THERAPISTS.
Sponsors can be likened to baptized publishers with their magical book and program they claim is the only way. The reason why people still go to meetings 30+ years is because they choose to keep identifying as an alcoholic by calling themselves one after quitting 30 years ago and they want you to believe the same thing.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Best wishes to you and your sobriety! I've found my own path to sobriety and it is working wonderfully! Thanks for taking the time to comment and sorry it took so long for me to get back to you! 😉💗
@@JustDeannaJune Thank you. I just couldn't do the group thinking and pretending to attribute my sobriety to a program I wasn't really using. I had already panned out the source of my problems, CPTSD and trauma responses only to have people that don't understand what I'm talking about tell me I'm wrong. Oddly enough only one person contacted me a couple times since I left and it was always to tell me to go to meetings. The good news is I'm going strong and just made 17 months, got my license back andI have a breathalyzer interlock which is expensive but has played a huge role in remaining sober because I have to drive every day and I'm super grateful for that because the quality of my life has increased tremendously. Also I lost 75 lbs and got back into shape at 48 years old.
I wish you the best with your sobriety and spiritual pursuits. I didn't want to sound like I'm crapping on AA or trying to deter you from going however I wanted to share my experience with you because you may come across the same situational dynamics.
Don't beat herself up. Can't imagine what you are going thru with leaving JW. I can assume there are active JW folks secretly going thru addiction having to endure being in the organization. Perfection is a falsehood.
You are sooo brave! I am happy you are taking better care of yourself. You look great. Keep on keeping on. Life is hard!
Life is getting much easier because I'm finally being myself and I got sober... And that happened because I'm more open and honest than ever. That's part of why I did this video. Not only to set the record straight, but more importantly for myself. To continue on that positive momentum of Honesty, Open-mindedness and Willingness. The HOW of recovery. Thank you for your lovely words of encouragement!!! ☺️💖✨
June, and my mother said they went to pick up her brother, my Uncle also an alcoholic, and she said he was "green colored." She said after the horrific experience of being on the USS Eleanor Roosevelt, they saw one of the worst accidents they had ever seen coming home from Long Beach. She said a truck of migratory farm workers, had turned over, they were missing limbs, rocking back and forth, and the limbs were mixed with squashed vegetables and blood. So how on earth does a person get this imagery out of their brain? I mean seriously, June, what kind of therapy can get it out, except a little "pin" electric shock to make you forget the whole incident entirely? Because of a therapist can do that, how come you can't look in the mirror and do exactly what the therapist does???? What specific little 'magic bullet" do they use, no pun intended.
Oh sweet sister ~ A million Hugs. You look beautiful strong and healthy. I had a drinking problem too back when we were texting I don't know if you remember me. I'm sober now too. I didn't go to AA I just kept praying and God helped me. I realized I could not get help while I was with Jehovah's Witnesses. But when I left the so-called truth, I found the real truth about God. 😊I am happy for you. You can talk to me anytime. Do you need a friend to talk to I'm here. ❤❤ Much Love Qricket
I have to be honest, I do not remember you, but I have almost 2000 subscribers and I've had contact with many, many of you all... but, I'm so very happy you have found success with sobriety! And I agree, it's unlikely that it's going to happen with the JWs. I'm so happy you have found a way that works for you! I have as well and I'm so appreciative of that! 🩷May I ask, did we connect through text or email? I don't give out my number very often, if ever, but if you have my number already, you're welcome to reach out! My email is: justjune1973@gmail.com 🤗 have an absolutely wonderful evening my friend!!! 💗
Med beds are here … NO MORE ADDICTIONS … HEAVEN ON EARTH
HEALTH IS WEALTH
God is with me he leads me❤
Back to My Brother-in-law the alcoholic. (See extension of other comment). June it goes deeper with him. I think deep down my Brother in law is Gay, and punished himself in Watchtower all along, doing penitence thinking that in a few weeks, he would be made perfect by entering into the "New System." My Sister in law grabbed a hold of him at 15 and wouldn't let go, and the day after he turned 21, they got married. I think he did this, because of family pressure, but he would rather be living in San Francisco, California, driving a "sports car" and doing interior decorating. He has lived a lie, his whole wife. I think he had a type of love for my sister in law, but never a passionate man love. She knocked herself out, exercising, and decorating the house, and he still looked at her with indifference and despise. And the ugly part of all? And it doesn't take Sigmund Freud to figure this one out, but he was perfectly willing to blood sacrifice his daughter, to make himself look good and assuage his desires for the flesh of men. They took her to a specialist in New York, and the death certificate said she died of "Oligemia" blood loss, so where were all of these blood alternatives? He sacrificed his own daughter, his wife is dead, he played the game for no reason, and there is no way he can look back over the shambles of his life, as integrity, it was a life of despair.
My Brother-in-law is an alcoholic. He was a JW for decades, and is an alcoholic. June, he lost his daughter, no blood, he lost his granddaughter, I think it was a drug over dose, suicide, they won't talk about it, his wife died, and he shunned us for years, and now he calls every month, along with all family members totally drunk. June, I am at a loss of words what to say to him. My husband says "Oh, he is drinking because his wife died." June, no he isn't. He was an alcoholic that I can remember for 47 years, when my daughter was born. He was also an Elder!!! He was always gone, so I said to my husband "Well, how many lives did he destroy in Committee meetings while he was an Elder" June, I went no contact with them, after they deprived their daughter of blood, she died, then he "snarkily" tells us that "You won't see Cathy in the Resurrection!" Now he has nothing. His other daughter won't speak to him, his granddaughter is dead, his other daughter is dead, and he didn't walk hand in hand into the portal to the petting zoo with his wife.
That is just such a sad situation the whole way round!!! From what I have learned about alcoholism is, it's a disease, that is always there, it may show up early in life... like early teens, especially if your family members are alcoholics and you watch their behavior and have access to alcohol at an early age, but it can also show up later... Due to circumstances, like me. I never drank until I was 37.
You need to realize, I started drinking because it was relaxing and fun. Truly, but it unraveled quickly, because I'm an alcoholic. Then the fun stopped and I drank to numb old bad memories and trauma and to cope with stress. Then it got worse and I drank even more because I HAD to, I got to the point where I woke up and did 3 shots of vodka at 8am to ward off the shakes from drinking until 2am. I wouldn't be drunk from 3 shots, it would just make me steady. And continued from there throughout the day.
Ppl that aren't alcoholic don't always understand how tolerance works for alcoholics. We build up an immunity that is unbelievable, very fast! I got to the point that I was usually drinking a fifth to a 1/2 gallon of vodka A DAY! And I was a very high functioning alcoholic. I never missed work, my house was clean, I went to all the meetings, went out in service, had ppl over to entertain, trained and ran 5 marathons, I was very thin and being bipolar helped because I tend to be more manic than depressed. This was about 10-11 years ago. Most ppl had no clue how much I actually drank. They knew I drank, but not how much. Fortunately, I went to rehab the first time and got my sober and stayed sober for several years. I relapsed at the tail end of covid. But with only wine this time.
My point is... Alcoholism does not discriminate, it does not care if you are happy or sad, if you are successful or you just lost someone in death, you are going to be an alcoholic no matter what!
And even if you get sober, you are a RECOVERING OR SOBER ALCOHOLIC, not cured... it's not like it goes away. The second you pick up a drink, you are off to the races again. And the hard part is facing that you ARE in fact AN ALCOHOLIC. The 1st step in AA is: (We came to believe that we are powerless over alcohol and that our lives have become unmanageable.) That's so unbelievably hard for many alcoholics to see and admit about themselves.
And out of the 12 steps of AA, they say the only step you have to do perfectly is... Step 1! It sounds like your brother n law is an alcoholic, and having all that guilt piled on is only going to add to the problem of his addiction. Some sort of recovery program would be to his benefit, but helping him to see that might be a huge challenge. You might be already aware of this, but I thought I'd share all this with you, just in case you weren't... 🥺 I wish you all the best in trying to help him see he needs some help and cooperating to get that help! 🩷
We all must repent and forgive so the father through his mercy may grant all his salvation 🙏. Even you❤
I'm happy you have found something that works for YOU. Have a wonderful day! 💗
You Tube timer 3:00 This is a hard one, because I think it was in the book "The Intuitive Way" that the author said she was her most relaxed and most intuitive on drinking two glasses of wine. Not one, not three, not a whole bottle, but two glasses of wine. Now in saying that, some people can't stop drinking after one glass, and when I say this, I could be helping persons "rationalize" to go back drinking. So, I am at a loss for words.
I actually considered it essential to drink to even be a JW. All the Jdubs drank in my day. You are so right, they do try to set you up to fail and don’t like when you do okay. Just know they have so many false beliefs and there is no substance for their paradise hope
I have often thought of this too, and I wonder how your therapist would respond. Probably expressionless and "dead pan" they call it "Gray Rocking." You are supposed to use this only in dealing with a narcissist, not to show any emotion so that they lose interest in you, but it is everywhere now. Persons just don't respond, even when they should respond. But in Matt: 21:12 If Jesus turned the tables over in a Temple today, fashioned a whip, and cracked it, not even hurt anyone, he would have been arrested for a few days, they would have done a medical eval on him in jail, he would have been told that he had "anger" issues, and needed counseling and meds, would have to go to "anger management" and that he would also be diagnosed schizophrenic and if he persisted might have to have electric shock therapy to his brain so he would come to his senses and change his mind.
Interesting thought.
Just a side note... make whatever kind of content you want. I'll watch.
You're a sweetheart! I hope my long comment on the other video wasn't upsetting or overstepping. I really appreciate your kindness!!! ☺️💖✨
I don't know if you have ever heard of this fallacy, but it is called "If By Whiskey." That is where you promote the benefits of drinking whiskey and the detrimental effects of drinking whiskey, in to equal parts not endorsing or condemning whiskey. Now what is interesting to present this as non committal and an equivocation fallacy, both arguments are equally good for drinking it and not drinking it, is that they use "whiskey" as good and evil in the first place, so go figure...
If you are an alcoholic... There is no reasonable choice for us in that fallacy. The answer is always going to HAVE to be don't drink the whiskey or risk dying from the disease of alcoholism. People that don't suffer from alcoholism don't seem to always understand the consequences of an alcoholic taking even one drink of alcohol ever again. That's why AA always says: to the alcoholic, one alcoholic drink is too many and 1000 is never enough. Once we pick up that first drink, all bets are off, our addiction takes over and we can't put the bottle down until we literally pass out in most cases. At least that's been my experience and that of almost everyone I have ever gone to rehab, AA, NA and other recovery facilities over the years have said. Thank you for your point of view tho.
@@JustDeannaJune I agree June. A better term for that, would be "Equal Points Equivocation Fallacy." But now I think the idea behind it "IS" the point, that whiskey can kill you, and you are being presented a hidden agenda in "If By Whiskey." That it is bad for you, but it is presented as good for you, hidden along with something that is bad.
You will, and are ok.
You woke up from that family destructor organization.
Good people went in without full knowledge, especially shunning portion, and only to be fooled when critical thinking step in.
God is love, and He loves each and every one of us.
Find your spirituality through reading the King James version, and Holy Spirit will give and direct you throughout.
Who needs 7 old men called governing body controlling people's lives?
We have direct contact through Jesus to God our Father.
Thank you very much for your kind words! I have read the Bible cover to cover 4 times, in 4 different versions, including the King James. Though I realize you are looking to bring peace and comfort by directing me to the Bible. It brings me, absolutely, no comfort. I've found other avenues that do work for me and my spirituality very well though. I just don't promote them on the channel because as I say at the end of each video... "Be yourself and be well" I think we all have to find what works for us individually. If the Bible and God works for you, that's a beautiful comfort in life that you now have! And I'm sincerely happy when ppl can find something in life that truly helps them, that doesn't always happen for us! I'm thankful to have found what does work for my spirituality as well. I don't feel we all have to agree on everything, we just need to be respectful of one another. I sincerely appreciate you and your love! You are a beautiful person!!!
What is the REAL point of making this video? Please, don’t answer by question.
To help others that might be struggling the way I am, to know that they are not alone. Alcoholism or any addiction is helped greatly when you see others working hard to get back on their feet and it might be a fight, but it's worth the fight. I realize it's not going to appeal to everyone, but that's why there are so many different channels out there in UA-cam world. We can each come from our own perspectives and do what we want. I'm pretty sure I made all that clear in the video. I hope you have a good day ExJW activist. ☺️
@@JustDeannaJune I have to go to sleep now. Hope you got a good day, sister!
@@EXJW-ACTIVIST sleep tight!