In all fairness optics is a very complicated subject and there is no unified theory of light, there are four main theories but the quantum theory of light explains most phenomenons of light.
Joey pulling his weight with his role play. Joey: Light is a wave and a particle. Umbra, Penumbra, Antumbra. Also Joey: So anyway, they landed on the moon at night, so why is the sun there.
Connor saying, “Just don’t” in response to being asked why he doesn’t believe in parallel universes is quite possibly the most British reply to anything ever.
About the exposures and reflectiveness of the moon, conner wasn't wrong. Yeah the moon is not like the most reflective stuff (in fact it is least just like Earth) but it is reflective as much as earth is. That much reflection is enough for exposures. It is like they are standing day time portions of the moon. The sky is black because the moon doesn't have any atmosphere.
I'm the first one to clown Connor and his dumb takes, but he wasn't wrong there lol to begin with, the only reason we can clearly see the moon in the sky and also have something called "moonlight" is because the moon is reflecting sunlight lol that card felt more like a meme than an actual correction tbh
@@nadkudo1798yeah like the moon is not exactly reflective in the same vein as like idk snow or water or glass. But everything, every real object is reflective in some sense coz if they were not reflective then you won't be able to see it (like black holes). And courtesy of the moon being as massive as it is yes it's a very bright object he is correct. Idk if he explained it the best but he is correct
@@siliconhawk Yeah, like light bounces off of everything. Some more than others and that's why we can even see anything at all. Like how lighting in a video game can make something look realistic even though the graphics without it looks quite dull. That's why ray tracing and similar technology exist.
I know Joey's been getting dunked on on the subreddit but I have to say out of all three he did the best job of trying to prove his conspiracy theories because he actually debated like someone who believes in them and actually brought some points that are semi convincing. I feel like Garnt and Connor really leaned in on the sarcastic and ironic side.
That's how I felt when I was forced to do debate in high school I'd bring facts,logic, and quotes trying to do it by instructions given And the girls that went up against me literally just went " nooo..... also because we are Christian😌" Lol debates are wild sometimes
@@whoaskedyoutolookatthis my dude, it was a forced school assignment I had to do years ago. It wasn't that big a deal, other than my classmates being lame but that's high-school for you, nothing really cringe about it.
It's wilding out here. At 8:53 Connor says we are already spreading misinformation, and joey's like, " I am not" which he is, is epitome of this episode Redditor eating good today and subbredit is gonna be lit this week
@@ssengageisop3952To name a few: "Light has mass" "Light is the only thing that demonstrates wave particle duality." "Waves cannot pass through a vacuum." And I'm only 15 minutes in.
@@zchelmerjoashgamboa7366 light does have a mass tho? It does not have a rest mass like objects that are not moving at a light speed but it does have a Lorentz mass or am I misremembering?
@@hasankabir1299light does not have a mass although it does have a momentum which is usually considered the product of mass in matter. However since photons are particles that are not considered matter, the mass of light is always zero
I have a conspiracy theory that Connor has a chip planted that will instantly end him if he even attempts to play along with the idea of a conspiracy theory.
I love how it just starts out with Joey going as hard as a mf into the devils avocado role as an Aussie, just causing Garnt to nearly have an aneurysm about light.
Farfetch'd is a pokemon which is based on a Japanese idiom "kamo ga negi wo shottekuru" which literally translates to "A duck approaches, carrying a leek on its back." It means an incredibly fortunate circumstance, since you've just come across a duck carrying ingredients that you can cook it with.
I would like to point out to everyone that Joey has a degree in IT/Computer Science, Connor has a degree in civil engineering and Garnt has a Masters in Mechanical Engineering. Truly wild stuff
@@erenjinchuriki whoops if that’s the case got it mixed up. I thought Garnt was mechanical because he made designed a penis shaped rocket navigation system.
I like how this started as a 1v2, each person trying their turn at being devil's advocate, but Joey liked that so much he started doing it every turn.😂
@@mcfarofinha134 yeah but he is so insanely far off that he would have literally have to have been high off his mind in those classes or never actually went to them. Its as if i claimed i used to be a pro baseball player and then proceed to punch people in the face with the bat, while claiming those are the rules of the game.
Connor was actually right though, moon dust is retroreflective and so much of the sunlight (from behind the camera) is reflected right back towards the sun (and the camera) thus overexposing the shot and the stars with it.
Yeah, and the C on the picture is actually just crap, the original doesn't have the C. The flag is "waving" because they were literally shaking the pole for the picture.
It's just so funny to me that conspiracy theorists think they went through all the trouble to fake the moon landing then forgot about stars... you know... the things we see every night?
“Explain that!” “Explain what?” “He’s dead!” Trash taste never fails to make me laugh and this episode was a special treat with everyone playing devils advocate at some point.
The amount of work Mudan put into this one must've been insane lol. Like as soon as he saw the title of this podcast, he must've been like "Aww shit. Here we go again"
@@FredMaverik No because misinformation is still a dangerous things lol. The video itself is lighthearted but it's never a bad idea to add fact checks and context.
Shadows for Grant: When you stand in front of a light-bulb, you block the light thus casting a shadow behind you. But there's still light hitting that shaded spot be it light from the bulb bouncing off of the walls or from another light source. Now if something is in front of the light (that has bounced or from another light source), then now that light is blocked. Therefore now there is another shadow for the same reason as the first shadow. In other words less light bouncing off of the surface and into your eyes.
Me, throughout this episode: Dang, Joey might actually be the smartest, always assumed it was Garnt. Me, at the end of the episode: wtf Joey you thought Farfetch'd was a chicken 😂
Wonder how many "Mudan's corrections" I will miss. Feel free to put the ones I end up missing, or forgetting. 2:20 Even Mudan is already apologizing 7:53: How does Light work? 8:08 Wave particle duality theory 10:04 3 Levels of shadows 11:51 Does light has mass? Does light exist? 13:38 Van Allen Radiation Belt. What is? 19:07 does this look like a butt to you? 36:38 Conspiracy theorists are good at worldbuilding? 43:32 Wonder if they will mention the news of "Mexico having aliens", and how nobody believed them 47:22 UFO? or UAP ? 49:54 The Bois' genuine actual opinion about Aliens existing or not 1:07:42 What's a "Bötes Void" or a "Supervoid" ? 1:22:41 origins of "the nelson mandela" 1:32:17 The Boyz' opinion about what Scientists do 1:48:38 I hate this type of theory, OH SO BLOODY MUCH.... And it is one of the most common ones foR ANYTHING 1:51:03 Are there any turtle Pokémon? 1:52:14 Which Pokémon caused Connor to doubt everything? 1:54:59 REDDIT meme
I have literally had dream that showed me everything that will happen in the next two days and I on purpose tried to stay out of the situation to not influence anything yet it resulted the same way I say in my dream
If they did that the episode would be watered down compared to the full iceberg series he has. 1 because it's obviously just too long to cover everything. 2 because even in the iceberg series itself wendigoon had to self-censor hundred and skip over multiple topics to avoid getting a strike on more "controversial" theories.
@@chadwickreno8499I don't think they would have him on since that would be too close to actually spreading misinformation. It's fun speculate, but misinformation is a big problem...
@@Steve-xo5pqI think he makes it pretty clear that he is just interested in the topics he talks about and his channel is not supposed to be taken as a genuine news source
1:29:06 what i find funny is that in the original german version from the grimm brother the quote is "spiegelein, spiegelein an der wand" which, when translated word for word, means "mirror, mirror on the wall". Disney changed the phrase to something different but somehow everyone remembers the og version.
Joey talking out of his ass with everything about light lol. The only thing he got right is that light has wave-particle duality. Everything else was wrong. And I love him for it.
I was shocked when Garnt said he doesn't understand light, while having a masters in electrical engineering... also Joey's "explanation" of lights particle/wave duality.. it does fit the theme of trash taste though haha
@@ssengageisop3952 Visible light is a small part of the electromagnetic spectrum. All of light shares the same velocity, light speed or c, but they have differing wavelenghts. The wavelength determines what "type" of light it is, microwaves, wifi, radiowaves, x-rays, gammarays or plane old visible light are a few types we are familiar with. In other words, there is no difference between the wifi in your house or the light that comes out of a lamp other than their wavelenghts. Light is both a wave and a particle, this is as far as we understand it. We know this because there are contradicting results from experiments. Some experiments show phenomena which could only occur if light was a wave, but we also see it do things that can only be described if light was a particle. Light isn't the only thing with wave-particle duality though. As an example electrons can behave like waves as well. Look up the "double slit experiment", this shows how both electrons and photons have wave like properties. But even you have a wavelength, but you're to big for it to matter. What Joey said about light having kinetic energy is true, but it's not due to it's mass, since it has no mass, it has to do with it's momentum. I don't know what he meant about waves not being affected by gravity, gravity is essentially curved space, so anything traveling through this curve would, you know, curve. The earth "thinks" it's moving in a straight line but it is trapped in our suns gravity well. Massive objects cause space to curve, if light travels past this object it has to follow that curved space around the object, if the object is too massive the light will circle around and finally it won't be able to escape, we call this a black hole. This was long and not very clear so just ask again if you would like to know something specific about this.
@@clashwithkeen At least google before you try to correct someone. Garnt said he did a masters in electrical engineering and I believe Connor said he has a bachelors in mechanical engineering. Either way both of them have moved on to other things since their education and neither choose to work as an engineer so I'm not expecting them to remember a whole lot, Conner does however clearly still have his "problem solving head" screwed on.
My take on deja vu: You HAVE experienced it before, but that specific thing was on the edge of being forgotten, until you experienced something familiar, but since it's so close to being forgotten you end up not being able to attribute it to a solid memory
As someone in physics, Joeys explanation of a photon absolutely killed me. 1) A photon is a particle, but the issue is that particles are not points, but rather energetic parts of a field, like how a wave is an energetic part of the sea. 2) This isn't unique to photons. All matter in the universe is a "particle and a wave" in the same sense as a photon. 3) Scientists definitely understand how it works. It's a very well defined concept. The explanations are just bad because you're trying to explain it by analogy. 4) Gravity effects light because it is the bending of space. Gravity doesnt only act on mass, but is the effect of other mass on the curvature of space, which light and matter move through.
I love how they kept on saying "The Government", meanwhile we have dudes from Australia, Thailand, and Wales. So in my head, there's just a organization called "The Government" that has all of this under lock and key.
Joey: Light is the only thing that acts as a particle and a wave. No, everything does. It's just that the wavelength of macroscopic objects are so incredibly small that it doesn't matter most of the time.
@@aryanpandey5017 no, because as demonstrated by the equation you sent, h/mv (de Broglie wavelength), the mass of an object is indirectly proportional to the wavelength. Also, we can think of some mass "m" of a macroscopic object and divide it to the value of h (Planck's constant) 6.636 x 10^-34 J s and you'll see that the value of the wavelength will still be an extremely small value.
@@jesther2575Besides that, the de Broglie equation doesn't even apply to anything bigger than an atom. It starts crumbling at a few hundred protons, so the wavelength of normal sized objects would probably be magnitudes smaller than what the equation would give us
The irony of the After Dark merch being released after they've pretty much announced that the After Dark is not going to be a priority in the future. The timing is impressive.
@@ZIDA165 In a Garnt stream I saw a clip. TLDR they're gonna focus on TT specials more and incorporate some AD ideas into the main show (like the red flags episode)
I was also laughing but I think they will be doing less After Dark and just putting the after dark style to regular podcast After dark will just be a event thing.
1:44:42 Also in Black and White, the ghost Pokémon Yamask's Pokédex entrys say "These Pokémon arose from the spirits of people interred in graves in past ages. Each retains memories of its former life." "Each of them carries a mask that used to be its face when it was human. Sometimes they look at it and cry."
Also, the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo all had led lined, and painted on the craft pod where the astronauts were housed so they were protected from solar radiation.
Garnt talking about how we dont understand light meanwhile that is caused by him not undertanding light while physicists understand it pretty well gave me an aneurism LMAO Such an interesting episode
this episode is sponsored by the Central Intelligence Agency! Connor, have you ever wanted to stage a coup in an African country with a peaceful, socialist leader and install a corrupt president in their place? Well, we have the solution for you!
Joey begins with "I've studied quantum physics" and proceeds to get literally everything he says from that point wrong. Then follows up with "everything I've said is correct". I was losing my mind.
Frustrating if you take everything seriously. With the amount of preface they do everytime, i don't really know why people still try and find holes in their arguments (especially academic related ones)
@hololovesapples8979 while I do agree they shouldn't be damned for saying stuff that's flat out wrong most of the time. I do think it's fun as well as often informative for people in the comments to explain, 'Hey, you guys talked about this. This is how it actually works or how we understand it!' I love that!
I'm a physicist and this was the most painful episode since the logarithmic Richter scale debacle. Its crazy how they can be so confident when almost everything they say is at least partially incorrect.
Cobains death Its not so much a conspiracy theory because there is a huge amount of evidence that he was murdered. Many people including myself believe he was murdered by Love for his fortune and there is a huge number of facts to back it up.
I remember doing a report on that in High School and it does hold some water no doubt, but I think I would avoid exploring that one on a public show like this out of respect for his surviving daughter tbh.
that pikachu tail is crazy because when I was a kid I always drew pikachu and I vividly remember his tail having a black tip. One of the main reasons I learn how to draw is by tracing pokemon artbooks since 6 years old.
Joey: "Oh Curious George" Connor: "What about it" Joey: "He doesn't have a tail." The two types of people: Connor, full confidence: "I know that." Garnt: "Who's Curious George?"
As someone who loves to get frustrated by conspiracy therories.. my favorite word is, Paredolia. The tendency to see patterns in meaningless random noise.
I love Garnt's "I wonder how it would be if the theory started in the time of the internet", just gotta look at that one weird "Avril Lavigne" theory saying she has been replaced by some girl called Melissa or whatever it was ^^
They said they would stop doing CONSISTENT after dark streams. Not after dark streams in general. Basically, they'll just stream whenever they want or when they have time.
@@cyrer6756im pretty sure garnt said that they need like their entire staffing team present for after dark, so i still wouldn't expect a whole lot, but hey, fingers crossed, i love watching them interact with live chat too
Garnt never stated that after dark would never be done again. It's just not going to be consistent anymore. I'm sure there'll be after dark streams every once in awhile like back in the day.
omg, their physics discussion was so wrong! "particles can't pass through space"?!?! wtf?? also "light has mass"?!?! it does not have any rest mass, but it does have momentum
This also reminds me of when Trash Taste used to have fun and one of their biggest things is "take this with a grain of salt". It doesnt seem as common as in recent episodes so its nice.
Joey and the other two have an interesting dynamic. Joey isn't a math person so while he reads up on a lot of advanced physics, he doesn't really understand it and says a lot of incorrect things. Meanwhile, Garnt and Monke don't do much research so they don't really know a lot of concepts, but they understand the math and they could easily understand the concepts if they were interested xD
There are a lot of interesting Pokemon Theories. That lore goes insanely deep. Pokemon have Infinity Energy and their HP and Attacks are just part of the Infinity Energy magic system. That's why they don't actually hurt each other in battles. Also, I believe the Ho-Oh wish theory with Ash: That when he saw Ho-Oh in episode 1, his wish was granted (since the Pokedex says that's what Ho-Oh does), allowing Ash to adventure forever and ever. That's why time passes in some ways, like the one-year anniversary of the journey and Kukui's child, but their ages don't change. And also also, people do canonically eat Pokemon 100%. Slowpoke tails are often described as a delicacy, and of course all the food Pokemon like Appletun are also referenced as being eaten by people. And also also also, I think Joey switched the Pokemon = Humans theory accidentally. The theory says that people used to be the same as Pokemon, as a book in B/W states. However, they evolved to be different from Pokemon and can't use (except psychics and the like) Infinity Energy anymore, so they can't go into pokeballs either. Btw, Pokemon apparently have the innate ability to shrink to fit inside pokeballs, as is states in Legends Arceus. I guess that's another part of the whole Infinity Energy thing. So yeah, Pokemon theories and lore are crazy when you get into it.
9:20 the neat thing about this is actually how shadows work on the moon, we have gradual shadows because our atmosphere scatters the light so even indirect light will make shadows less dark, while on the moon anything without direct sunlight is almost entirely black there's very little visibility
Past Garnt: All bread tastes the same
Present Garnt: Light isn't real
Evolving backwards
In all fairness optics is a very complicated subject and there is no unified theory of light, there are four main theories but the quantum theory of light explains most phenomenons of light.
Also Garnt: Lightmode user
@@4tan730There's so much layers to Garnt's lunacy.
Since Garnt uses light mode... _is Garnt real?_
Garnt's beef with light was the best part of this episode.
As an artist, he’s so right. Light is very difficult to grasp and does so many weird things that kind of don’t make sense
“As the only musician in the group”, says Joey, forgetting that Garnt was the lead guitarist of a band in high school.
Think we all forget that even when hearing it we just go “woah really? Had no idea that’s cool “
Current musician
typical arrogance of Joey.
@@asuraXTCjacksepticeye is a drummer
To be fair, it get´s easily overshadowed by the fact that Garnt has worked in the BBC, you know what I mean?
Joey pulling his weight with his role play.
Joey: Light is a wave and a particle. Umbra, Penumbra, Antumbra.
Also Joey: So anyway, they landed on the moon at night, so why is the sun there.
This should have ended with Garnt saying "There is a theory that you guys died" and then it cuts to Garnt alone in the studio.
I understand that reference.
Connor saying, “Just don’t” in response to being asked why he doesn’t believe in parallel universes is quite possibly the most British reply to anything ever.
Pile of rubbish innit?
Garnt having a fit with light is how i'd imagine a cat would explain a laser from a pointer
yeah thanks to Joey and Gigguk more than Connor for once.
Connor speaks with some diction and confidence for his rebuttals, then Mudan just comes in and shows fact that he's completely wrong 😭
About the exposures and reflectiveness of the moon, conner wasn't wrong. Yeah the moon is not like the most reflective stuff (in fact it is least just like Earth) but it is reflective as much as earth is. That much reflection is enough for exposures. It is like they are standing day time portions of the moon. The sky is black because the moon doesn't have any atmosphere.
I'm the first one to clown Connor and his dumb takes, but he wasn't wrong there lol to begin with, the only reason we can clearly see the moon in the sky and also have something called "moonlight" is because the moon is reflecting sunlight lol that card felt more like a meme than an actual correction tbh
@@nadkudo1798yeah like the moon is not exactly reflective in the same vein as like idk snow or water or glass. But everything, every real object is reflective in some sense coz if they were not reflective then you won't be able to see it (like black holes). And courtesy of the moon being as massive as it is yes it's a very bright object he is correct. Idk if he explained it the best but he is correct
@@siliconhawk Yeah, like light bounces off of everything. Some more than others and that's why we can even see anything at all. Like how lighting in a video game can make something look realistic even though the graphics without it looks quite dull. That's why ray tracing and similar technology exist.
The fact that joey implied it's always night because they stepped on the damn moon is genius lmao
I know Joey's been getting dunked on on the subreddit but I have to say out of all three he did the best job of trying to prove his conspiracy theories because he actually debated like someone who believes in them and actually brought some points that are semi convincing. I feel like Garnt and Connor really leaned in on the sarcastic and ironic side.
That's how I felt when I was forced to do debate in high school
I'd bring facts,logic, and quotes trying to do it by instructions given
And the girls that went up against me literally just went " nooo..... also because we are Christian😌"
Lol debates are wild sometimes
cringe alert@@ViktorErikFade
@@whoaskedyoutolookatthis my dude, it was a forced school assignment I had to do years ago.
It wasn't that big a deal, other than my classmates being lame but that's high-school for you, nothing really cringe about it.
@@ViktorErikFade tbh bro, you gave off some nerd emoji energy in that comment.
@@user-fi4ot7sk1i and you gave off no bitches energy
I can't help that
…love that this two hour episode was released after saying conspiracy theories are red flags
Conspiracy theories are fun as hell tho. Just don't genuinely believe in most of them
They meant people that believe the conspiracy theories
Their podcast is called trash taste.
@@xnala2831I really love this defense, They knew they would have bad takes.
@@alphakowaclipsthe lottery was made to catch time travellers.
Mudan has his work cut out for him this episode! The amount of fact checking needed here.
Mudan will receive a phd by the end of the podcast 😂
It's wilding out here. At 8:53 Connor says we are already spreading misinformation, and joey's like, " I am not" which he is, is epitome of this episode
Redditor eating good today and subbredit is gonna be lit this week
havent watched it completely but joey is absolutely correct about dual nature of light upto that point@@rad_rex
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@@rad_rex tbf joey's saying "i am not" because he's doing a bit, his whole thing is he's supposed to be a moon landing is fake believer
The number of incorrect physics said with complete confidence in the first thirty minutes turned me into flat-earther.
List them
@@ssengageisop3952To name a few:
"Light has mass"
"Light is the only thing that demonstrates wave particle duality."
"Waves cannot pass through a vacuum."
And I'm only 15 minutes in.
@@zchelmerjoashgamboa7366 light does have a mass tho? It does not have a rest mass like objects that are not moving at a light speed but it does have a Lorentz mass or am I misremembering?
@@hasankabir1299 Lorentz mass is... relativistic though. Definitely not the conventional rest mass Joey was talking about earlier.
@@hasankabir1299light does not have a mass although it does have a momentum which is usually considered the product of mass in matter. However since photons are particles that are not considered matter, the mass of light is always zero
I have a conspiracy theory that Connor has a chip planted that will instantly end him if he even attempts to play along with the idea of a conspiracy theory.
Joey definetely did the best job this time. It felt like he was one only one who actually did homework and even got into it
I think he did great on the first one, it wss the best of the episode but the beatles one was massively incorrect with tons of wrong info
it's weird that they named their merch after dark while the after dark livestream is already dead
Yeah...
Plot twist: After Dark was the real conspiracy theory all along
Literally 😭, after grants statement abt after dark shifting into the normal podcast, guess this is a farewell merch line? 😭
weird yeah
It's called "cashing in"
I love how it just starts out with Joey going as hard as a mf into the devils avocado role as an Aussie, just causing Garnt to nearly have an aneurysm about light.
Devils avocado 💀
devils avocado is crazyyy 😂😂
The devils what now?💀💀
Ah yes. The devil's avocado. Joey really do be representing the green and gold.
You know that devil's avocado means when you have anal s3 x without the proper preparation right?? 😂😂
We should definitely get an alien onboard for the next guest special, the poop convo will be insane.
They must join the weeb clan so we can be spared.
what if the alien is a cute anime girl Vtuber?
@@SonicRyan1992 They could probably get Hime Hajime. If they remember who she is 😂
Wendigoon would've been perfect for this episode.
@@G2GIGI177who?
Farfetch'd is a pokemon which is based on a Japanese idiom "kamo ga negi wo shottekuru" which literally translates to "A duck approaches, carrying a leek on its back." It means an incredibly fortunate circumstance, since you've just come across a duck carrying ingredients that you can cook it with.
Lmao I love how Joey just loves being the devils advocate he’s literally defending the theories Garnt has
yeah he was funny this episode
Today on trash taste: Garnt has a bone to pick with Light while Connor has a mental breakdown
When Connor DOESN'T have a mental breakdown?
@@ianr.navahuber2195 lmao true
lmao
My favorite conspiracy theory is that Jamie never actually pulls that up.
Pulls his D up
Jamie isn't real
The best conspiracy theory I have is Jamie Oliver is the best chef in the world.
That water in his fried rice is correct
who cares, it's all about the Jamies we made along the way
My favorite conspiracy theory is that this podcast was never an anime podcast lmao
I would like to point out to everyone that Joey has a degree in IT/Computer Science, Connor has a degree in civil engineering and Garnt has a Masters in Mechanical Engineering. Truly wild stuff
But they graduated ages ago. Is it not possible that they forgot stuff ?
I’m fairly sure Garnt’s degree is in electrical engineering and Connor’s is in mechanical engineering.
@@shyguy5473 there's forgetting details, but you don't really forget stuff you know correctly
@@crimsnblade8555pretty sure when there's no need for that info u start to forget alot
@@erenjinchuriki whoops if that’s the case got it mixed up. I thought Garnt was mechanical because he made designed a penis shaped rocket navigation system.
1:38:11: the emotional turbulence felt by Grant at this moment literally broke him - priceless.
It wasn't just him when I heard that mf I had the worst intrusive thought in my head running around
It was terrifying until Joey elaborated. Then I realized how silly it is.
i wish we had a sad garnt face pt.2
I like how this started as a 1v2, each person trying their turn at being devil's advocate, but Joey liked that so much he started doing it every turn.😂
Joey: "As someone who studied quantum physics..."
Also Joey: "Scientist dont know how light works, also light has mass"
Me, when Joey said particles can't travel through a vacuum:
*Cries in physicist*
@@thepicbloke7246ANYTHING in space: "Guess I can't move"
"Studied it" and "know it" are very different things lol
In his defense gravity does effect light
@@mcfarofinha134 yeah but he is so insanely far off that he would have literally have to have been high off his mind in those classes or never actually went to them. Its as if i claimed i used to be a pro baseball player and then proceed to punch people in the face with the bat, while claiming those are the rules of the game.
Them not delving into the political conspiracies is itself a conspiracy
They got bashed for a week cuze they didn't do a in-depth talk about Aot the whole episode, No way they are getting into political stuff😂😂🤣
Who would like that tho?
Connor was actually right though, moon dust is retroreflective and so much of the sunlight (from behind the camera) is reflected right back towards the sun (and the camera) thus overexposing the shot and the stars with it.
Yeah, and the C on the picture is actually just crap, the original doesn't have the C.
The flag is "waving" because they were literally shaking the pole for the picture.
Yeah, I thought that was common knowledge... Like, that's the whole reason the moon shines at night
@@merlumilino dumbass it's all the hypno lasers the government put up there beaming down to earth
It's just so funny to me that conspiracy theorists think they went through all the trouble to fake the moon landing then forgot about stars... you know... the things we see every night?
@@notaspeck6104wait a minute…you guys actually believe the moon landing was real??!😂
Joey referring to UFOs as UAPs is confirmation that he's keeping up with Dandadan
“Explain that!”
“Explain what?”
“He’s dead!”
Trash taste never fails to make me laugh and this episode was a special treat with everyone playing devils advocate at some point.
When joey asked how the moon landings are so well lit and connor just went “the f*cking Sun??” had me rolling
The amount of work Mudan put into this one must've been insane lol. Like as soon as he saw the title of this podcast, he must've been like "Aww shit. Here we go again"
As it was conspiracy theories, there was no need for fact checkin, let the boys go wild
@@FredMaverik No because misinformation is still a dangerous things lol. The video itself is lighthearted but it's never a bad idea to add fact checks and context.
Shadows for Grant: When you stand in front of a light-bulb, you block the light thus casting a shadow behind you. But there's still light hitting that shaded spot be it light from the bulb bouncing off of the walls or from another light source. Now if something is in front of the light (that has bounced or from another light source), then now that light is blocked. Therefore now there is another shadow for the same reason as the first shadow. In other words less light bouncing off of the surface and into your eyes.
Me, throughout this episode: Dang, Joey might actually be the smartest, always assumed it was Garnt.
Me, at the end of the episode: wtf Joey you thought Farfetch'd was a chicken 😂
Bruh, I always thought and still think Garnt is the dumbest xD
Joey is the smartest. Connor is out of the picture but I also dont know what made you perceive Garnt as the smartest lol
@@slendydie1267 well he did explain all of fate that one time lol
idk tbh it was just an assumption.
idk man that explanation of light killed me
My favourite conspiracy theory is that everything will be okay
That one is actually real
If Light doesn't exist. Who defeated L??🤔🤔🤔
Wonder how many "Mudan's corrections" I will miss. Feel free to put the ones I end up missing, or forgetting.
2:20 Even Mudan is already apologizing
7:53: How does Light work? 8:08 Wave particle duality theory 10:04 3 Levels of shadows
11:51 Does light has mass? Does light exist? 13:38 Van Allen Radiation Belt. What is?
19:07 does this look like a butt to you? 36:38 Conspiracy theorists are good at worldbuilding?
43:32 Wonder if they will mention the news of "Mexico having aliens", and how nobody believed them
47:22 UFO? or UAP ? 49:54 The Bois' genuine actual opinion about Aliens existing or not
1:07:42 What's a "Bötes Void" or a "Supervoid" ?
1:22:41 origins of "the nelson mandela"
1:32:17 The Boyz' opinion about what Scientists do
1:48:38 I hate this type of theory, OH SO BLOODY MUCH.... And it is one of the most common ones foR ANYTHING
1:51:03 Are there any turtle Pokémon? 1:52:14 Which Pokémon caused Connor to doubt everything?
1:54:59 REDDIT meme
1:25:57 Conner getting pissed off at Garnt not knowing curious George is absolutely hilarious
1:40:05 this is legitimately the first time i've seen Connor and Garnt syncing up, lmao
anyway this is a legit troll episode which i did enjoy
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Garnt's explanation of deja vu is how i experience ever time I swear I've had dreams of events happening the way they do
Same, I'll see events in my dreams and then see it later in the week.
I have literally had dream that showed me everything that will happen in the next two days and I on purpose tried to stay out of the situation to not influence anything yet it resulted the same way I say in my dream
That is what Deja Vu is.
I need episode 2 of this where Connor explains to the boys that women in fact do not exist
I hope Wendigoon also get a guest episode
IF he comes to Japan
Wendigoon is so cool.
If they did that the episode would be watered down compared to the full iceberg series he has. 1 because it's obviously just too long to cover everything. 2 because even in the iceberg series itself wendigoon had to self-censor hundred and skip over multiple topics to avoid getting a strike on more "controversial" theories.
@@chadwickreno8499I don't think they would have him on since that would be too close to actually spreading misinformation. It's fun speculate, but misinformation is a big problem...
@@Steve-xo5pqI think he makes it pretty clear that he is just interested in the topics he talks about and his channel is not supposed to be taken as a genuine news source
The fact people are complaining about wrong facts in a very clearly satire conspiracy theory themed episode shows the caliber of Trash taste viewers
This episode felt like the glory days of translator context popups in anime with the amount of Muden fact checks 😂
Yeah the golden days
1:29:06 what i find funny is that in the original german version from the grimm brother the quote is "spiegelein, spiegelein an der wand" which, when translated word for word, means "mirror, mirror on the wall". Disney changed the phrase to something different but somehow everyone remembers the og version.
Joey talking out of his ass with everything about light lol. The only thing he got right is that light has wave-particle duality. Everything else was wrong. And I love him for it.
I was shocked when Garnt said he doesn't understand light, while having a masters in electrical engineering... also Joey's "explanation" of lights particle/wave duality.. it does fit the theme of trash taste though haha
Can you explain ?
@@ssengageisop3952 Visible light is a small part of the electromagnetic spectrum. All of light shares the same velocity, light speed or c, but they have differing wavelenghts. The wavelength determines what "type" of light it is, microwaves, wifi, radiowaves, x-rays, gammarays or plane old visible light are a few types we are familiar with. In other words, there is no difference between the wifi in your house or the light that comes out of a lamp other than their wavelenghts.
Light is both a wave and a particle, this is as far as we understand it. We know this because there are contradicting results from experiments. Some experiments show phenomena which could only occur if light was a wave, but we also see it do things that can only be described if light was a particle. Light isn't the only thing with wave-particle duality though. As an example electrons can behave like waves as well. Look up the "double slit experiment", this shows how both electrons and photons have wave like properties. But even you have a wavelength, but you're to big for it to matter. What Joey said about light having kinetic energy is true, but it's not due to it's mass, since it has no mass, it has to do with it's momentum. I don't know what he meant about waves not being affected by gravity, gravity is essentially curved space, so anything traveling through this curve would, you know, curve. The earth "thinks" it's moving in a straight line but it is trapped in our suns gravity well. Massive objects cause space to curve, if light travels past this object it has to follow that curved space around the object, if the object is too massive the light will circle around and finally it won't be able to escape, we call this a black hole.
This was long and not very clear so just ask again if you would like to know something specific about this.
mechanical engineering
@@clashwithkeen At least google before you try to correct someone. Garnt said he did a masters in electrical engineering and I believe Connor said he has a bachelors in mechanical engineering. Either way both of them have moved on to other things since their education and neither choose to work as an engineer so I'm not expecting them to remember a whole lot, Conner does however clearly still have his "problem solving head" screwed on.
I'm glad that themed episodes are starting to be brought back. It makes Trash Taste a lot more refreshing to watch.
Edit: Typo
It makes*
YASS, I love this as well! I found conspiracy theories and red flags/green flags fun themes as well, they gotta keep them coming.
@@laboon344 Thnx
@@Crosseyedhero you're welcome
I'd love to see a part 2 of this, the boys makin shit up on the fly to support their theories is way too funny
My take on deja vu:
You HAVE experienced it before, but that specific thing was on the edge of being forgotten, until you experienced something familiar, but since it's so close to being forgotten you end up not being able to attribute it to a solid memory
As someone in physics, Joeys explanation of a photon absolutely killed me.
1) A photon is a particle, but the issue is that particles are not points, but rather energetic parts of a field, like how a wave is an energetic part of the sea.
2) This isn't unique to photons. All matter in the universe is a "particle and a wave" in the same sense as a photon.
3) Scientists definitely understand how it works. It's a very well defined concept. The explanations are just bad because you're trying to explain it by analogy.
4) Gravity effects light because it is the bending of space. Gravity doesnt only act on mass, but is the effect of other mass on the curvature of space, which light and matter move through.
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So basically you’re saying it’s all made up
I love how they kept on saying "The Government", meanwhile we have dudes from Australia, Thailand, and Wales. So in my head, there's just a organization called "The Government" that has all of this under lock and key.
To be fair there's a government in every country. "The Government" would just apply to whatever country they're from.
Joey: Light is the only thing that acts as a particle and a wave.
No, everything does. It's just that the wavelength of macroscopic objects are so incredibly small that it doesn't matter most of the time.
The wavelengths of macroscopic objects is *large* not small when travelling with low velocities as compared to the speed of light. [λ=h/(mv)]
@@aryanpandey5017 no, because as demonstrated by the equation you sent, h/mv (de Broglie wavelength), the mass of an object is indirectly proportional to the wavelength. Also, we can think of some mass "m" of a macroscopic object and divide it to the value of h (Planck's constant) 6.636 x 10^-34 J s and you'll see that the value of the wavelength will still be an extremely small value.
@@jesther2575Besides that, the de Broglie equation doesn't even apply to anything bigger than an atom. It starts crumbling at a few hundred protons, so the wavelength of normal sized objects would probably be magnitudes smaller than what the equation would give us
I love connor just absolutely shutting down every mandela effect
This episode was so good, definitely one of the best in a while. Great to see the boys talking shit with a purpose
I never thought I'd see a man get so agitated about light. 😂
The irony of the After Dark merch being released after they've pretty much announced that the After Dark is not going to be a priority in the future. The timing is impressive.
Gosh the trash taste community is so negative and insufferable lmao.
Lmao
When did they say that? I think I’ve missed it😅
@@ZIDA165 In a Garnt stream I saw a clip. TLDR they're gonna focus on TT specials more and incorporate some AD ideas into the main show (like the red flags episode)
I was also laughing but I think they will be doing less After Dark and just putting the after dark style to regular podcast After dark will just be a event thing.
love how in a few min or so Garnt already started an argument on how light works
1:44:42 Also in Black and White, the ghost Pokémon Yamask's Pokédex entrys say
"These Pokémon arose from the spirits of people interred in graves in past ages. Each retains memories of its former life."
"Each of them carries a mask that used to be its face when it was human. Sometimes they look at it and cry."
Also, the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo all had led lined, and painted on the craft pod where the astronauts were housed so they were protected from solar radiation.
“I don’t know music theory Joey” killed me
I love joeys way of presenting the theorys he just says them as fact like most the people who actually believe them do
My favorite conspiracy is that Stevie wonder isn’t blind.
Connor claiming the flag movement in Moon is by light ☠️
And then Joey saying light has mass☠️☠️
It is getting wilder 🤐
Garnt talking about how we dont understand light meanwhile that is caused by him not undertanding light while physicists understand it pretty well gave me an aneurism LMAO
Such an interesting episode
Congrats to the Trash Taste crew for their first government sponsored episode.
this episode is sponsored by the Central Intelligence Agency! Connor, have you ever wanted to stage a coup in an African country with a peaceful, socialist leader and install a corrupt president in their place? Well, we have the solution for you!
"How tf does light work?"
Every artist ever lol
Joey: As someone who studied Quantum Physics…
Also Joey: So particles can’t move thru space
Joey begins with "I've studied quantum physics" and proceeds to get literally everything he says from that point wrong. Then follows up with "everything I've said is correct".
I was losing my mind.
this is literally one of the best episodes of trash taste ever
Joey: Oh! Curious George! He doesn't have a tail.
Connor: I know that!
Monke knows other Monke 😂😂😂
garnt: masters in eng
also garnt: i don't understand how light works
he was clearly born in the shadows while we merely adopted it
Haven’t gotten 5 minutes in and already I know this will go down as one of the most frustrating episodes to listen to😂😂
It’s not that deep, I promise.
nah it was good
As someone who has studied a decent amount of physics, yes it was very painful to hear their "physics" explanations XD
Frustrating if you take everything seriously. With the amount of preface they do everytime, i don't really know why people still try and find holes in their arguments (especially academic related ones)
@@hololovesapples8979yup but it is difficult for people to not take them seriously. It is human nature to be like it
@hololovesapples8979 while I do agree they shouldn't be damned for saying stuff that's flat out wrong most of the time. I do think it's fun as well as often informative for people in the comments to explain, 'Hey, you guys talked about this. This is how it actually works or how we understand it!' I love that!
The MVP of this episode was Mudan, the fact-checker.
I'm a physicist and this was the most painful episode since the logarithmic Richter scale debacle. Its crazy how they can be so confident when almost everything they say is at least partially incorrect.
Man, I was hoping Joey would go for the Kurt Cobain theory. That one's way more of a conversation starter.
Cobains death Its not so much a conspiracy theory because there is a huge amount of evidence that he was murdered. Many people including myself believe he was murdered by Love for his fortune and there is a huge number of facts to back it up.
I remember doing a report on that in High School and it does hold some water no doubt, but I think I would avoid exploring that one on a public show like this out of respect for his surviving daughter tbh.
that pikachu tail is crazy because when I was a kid I always drew pikachu and I vividly remember his tail having a black tip. One of the main reasons I learn how to draw is by tracing pokemon artbooks since 6 years old.
My brain hurts from how wrong every scientific "takes" they have.😭😭😭
The alien conspiracy section convinced me that the boys would absolutely love the Three Body Problem.
Man as a chemical engineering student who’s taken 3 years of thermo hearing entropy is chaos hurts my soul a bit
Joey: "Oh Curious George"
Connor: "What about it"
Joey: "He doesn't have a tail."
The two types of people:
Connor, full confidence: "I know that."
Garnt: "Who's Curious George?"
I feel this ep has potential for some best out of context clip nominees
This is perhaps the best episode yet to make cancelable out of context clips 😂
Joey: "Who's going to the moon and writing C on a rock?"
Me: "C Dawg VA on the moon confirmed"
As someone who loves to get frustrated by conspiracy therories.. my favorite word is, Paredolia. The tendency to see patterns in meaningless random noise.
I love Garnt's "I wonder how it would be if the theory started in the time of the internet", just gotta look at that one weird "Avril Lavigne" theory saying she has been replaced by some girl called Melissa or whatever it was ^^
I hope Mudan gets a bonus from this episode 😂
0:09 I can't say it's a good announcement since they said that they will stop doing after dark
exactly... how does that make sense?
They said they would stop doing CONSISTENT after dark streams. Not after dark streams in general. Basically, they'll just stream whenever they want or when they have time.
@@cyrer6756im pretty sure garnt said that they need like their entire staffing team present for after dark, so i still wouldn't expect a whole lot, but hey, fingers crossed, i love watching them interact with live chat too
Garnt never stated that after dark would never be done again. It's just not going to be consistent anymore. I'm sure there'll be after dark streams every once in awhile like back in the day.
omg, their physics discussion was so wrong! "particles can't pass through space"?!?! wtf??
also "light has mass"?!?! it does not have any rest mass, but it does have momentum
Every time the purple box pops up and just destroys the point one of the boys makes is so funny to me 😂😂
This also reminds me of when Trash Taste used to have fun and one of their biggest things is "take this with a grain of salt". It doesnt seem as common as in recent episodes so its nice.
Joey and the other two have an interesting dynamic. Joey isn't a math person so while he reads up on a lot of advanced physics, he doesn't really understand it and says a lot of incorrect things. Meanwhile, Garnt and Monke don't do much research so they don't really know a lot of concepts, but they understand the math and they could easily understand the concepts if they were interested xD
There are a lot of interesting Pokemon Theories. That lore goes insanely deep. Pokemon have Infinity Energy and their HP and Attacks are just part of the Infinity Energy magic system. That's why they don't actually hurt each other in battles.
Also, I believe the Ho-Oh wish theory with Ash: That when he saw Ho-Oh in episode 1, his wish was granted (since the Pokedex says that's what Ho-Oh does), allowing Ash to adventure forever and ever. That's why time passes in some ways, like the one-year anniversary of the journey and Kukui's child, but their ages don't change.
And also also, people do canonically eat Pokemon 100%. Slowpoke tails are often described as a delicacy, and of course all the food Pokemon like Appletun are also referenced as being eaten by people.
And also also also, I think Joey switched the Pokemon = Humans theory accidentally. The theory says that people used to be the same as Pokemon, as a book in B/W states. However, they evolved to be different from Pokemon and can't use (except psychics and the like) Infinity Energy anymore, so they can't go into pokeballs either. Btw, Pokemon apparently have the innate ability to shrink to fit inside pokeballs, as is states in Legends Arceus. I guess that's another part of the whole Infinity Energy thing.
So yeah, Pokemon theories and lore are crazy when you get into it.
What about why Ash got pikachu? Prof Oak time travelled with celebi and became friends with ash and pikachu.
Ah yeah listening to Garnt and Joey talk about light @8:10 clarifies why the engineer and physics majors went into the entertainment field.
Mfs really aren't meant for those works
The Beatles theory was hilarious to me because Joey got so much stuff wrong that wasn’t even conspiracy related.
catching humans with the pokeball? can't wait till these guys learn about Palworld
This should have definitely been an after dark episode where they drink and debate stuff 😂
And can google anything immediately
Thank the gods for this new episode, I was going crazy with the internet takes of the day
9 minutes in and I'm about to have an aneurysm
9:20 the neat thing about this is actually how shadows work on the moon, we have gradual shadows because our atmosphere scatters the light so even indirect light will make shadows less dark, while on the moon anything without direct sunlight is almost entirely black there's very little visibility
catching people with poke ball?
palworld: write that down