Simple & Effective: The Ruling Pen is the Early Version of Drafting and Technical Pens

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    Today I examined a couple of very interesting packages from someone identified only as "ML". I thank ML for these things, for a received a Ruling Pen, which is an early type of technical and drafting dip pen that's been around for well over 100 years. I love its sleek design and metallic presence, I suspect the nib is made of steel and the body of aluminum. If you look these up, these pens are available for less than $10, although it seems like this is a nice vintage one.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 280

  • @Strange_Camel
    @Strange_Camel 3 роки тому +89

    Ruling pens work best when held vertically, similar to a rapidograph. The screw allows you to adjust the line width, which you only notice when drawing parallel to the tines. I've used these for drafting a long time ago. I'd keep a test sheet off to the side where I could check my line widths every time I made an adjustment. I lost mine long ago but one thing I remember is how these flowed so well, especially vs a rapidograph.

    • @1337blackone
      @1337blackone 2 роки тому +2

      i just got my first ruling pens and ruling compasses, and im looking for an ink reccomendation. if you're happy to help I'd appreciate it.

    • @Strange_Camel
      @Strange_Camel 2 роки тому

      @@1337blackone I used to use Rotring ink in a small 23ml bottle. You can hold the pen over a towel and just put a drop of ink into it with the spout on the bottle. Pilot makes a drafting ink, which I've not used, but its in a bottle that you can dip the nib into. JetPens sells it. Otherwise, I would think that any fountain pen inks would work but I'm not positive about that. The cool thing about these pens is they're so easy to clean so you can try different inks. Lots of places like Goulet pens, Vanness and Pen Chalet sell ink samples.

    • @TesserId
      @TesserId Рік тому +4

      @@1337blackone Classic India ink is the default. Drafting prefers very opaque black lines. Also, find an ink eraser knife, if you can. An Exacto with a curved blade (not straight or concave) will do in a pinch. India ink mostly adheres above the surface of the paper, and can be erased by scraping it off. The results of such an eraser are not perfect. But, if you pitching a house design on a schedule, a little ugly is better than staying up all night to redo an entire drawing to fix one little mistake or having nothing to show at all.

  • @iMonkey427
    @iMonkey427 3 роки тому +96

    Dear ML,
    When I first saw your packaging, I thought it was the original. I would not consider that to be the work of a twelve year old, unless that twelve year old were very talented. Don't be so hard on yourself!
    Sincerely,
    Some guy on UA-cam

    • @archivist17
      @archivist17 3 роки тому +8

      Agreed
      Sincerely,
      a different guy on UA-cam.

    • @MrTangent
      @MrTangent 3 роки тому +3

      Thirded. Thirdly. Thirdidly.
      Sincerely,
      Another guy on UA-cam.

    • @notreallydaedalus
      @notreallydaedalus 3 роки тому +2

      Engineers have a different standard of precision 😄

  • @gaelhillyardcreative
    @gaelhillyardcreative 3 роки тому +134

    ML sounds such a lovely person and these are very cool gifts.

  • @carloswilson977
    @carloswilson977 3 роки тому +198

    I am kinda' kicking myself. It reminds me that my father had several of these pens. He was an engineer who did a lot of drafting back in the 60's early 70's. When he passed, I had a special wooden box of his, with protractors and extensions as well as several pen bodies and tips of different sizes. I moved around so many times over the psat 30 years that all I know is that right now, I no longer have them in my posession. A bit of a mixed feeling as I fondly remember them and my father but sadly regret not being more carfeul to hold on to them. I hope whoever has them now will value them more than I should have...
    Thank you very much for this video.

    • @Armstrong84
      @Armstrong84 3 роки тому +6

      I had a similar thing, my father had all the original Star Wars toys and I mean boxes of them but I sold them in the late 90's because I had to move. They are now worth mega bucks.

    • @robertahubert9155
      @robertahubert9155 3 роки тому +13

      We don’t always value the things that are left behind by our parents but our memories of them never leave us and those are the most valuable those you will never lose. God Bless and take care of you.

    • @tylerjames1716
      @tylerjames1716 3 роки тому +1

      they in a landfill bro

    • @tylerjames1716
      @tylerjames1716 3 роки тому +1

      you can buy more on amazon

    • @Armstrong84
      @Armstrong84 3 роки тому

      @@tylerjames1716 there are more important things in my life now.

  • @opalskycanvas
    @opalskycanvas 3 роки тому +38

    The custom made box and label makes it look like it came from the 1940s and it's pretty neat.

  • @matthewanderson9461
    @matthewanderson9461 3 роки тому +113

    The dude that sent those has to be extactic seeing how excited Peter got while testing out that pen haha 😄

    • @EPeltzer
      @EPeltzer 2 роки тому

      Extactic is now one of my favorite words. Thanks!

    • @bradleyhamilton4409
      @bradleyhamilton4409 Рік тому

      @@EPeltzer I also love the word, hope it found a place in your vocabulary!

    • @Puddlesoak
      @Puddlesoak Рік тому

      @@EPeltzer Ecstatic

  • @mahdiaahseen333
    @mahdiaahseen333 3 роки тому +169

    _Drawings by a 12 year old_ as soon as Peter pulled out those boxes, I was admiring the beautiful and *very professional* illustrations done on the cover. ML really had to do themself like that😫

    • @nathanaelcard
      @nathanaelcard 3 роки тому +9

      Right! It took me a few looks to realize it was hand drawn. ML's got modesty for days!
      Kind reminder that nothing in the note indicated gender. ML isn't necessarily a he/him/his

    • @mahdiaahseen333
      @mahdiaahseen333 3 роки тому +4

      @@nathanaelcard true true, my mistake. I edited my comment

    • @glumsulk
      @glumsulk 2 роки тому +8

      You guys realize that you can say he or she if it isnt otherwise stated right? Its just expected to be default in general incidents like that especially if they dont specify.
      A person who would actually get offended at that innocuous "mistake", for lack of a better word, has a ridiculous ego and is not worth your time.

  • @SharonNolfi
    @SharonNolfi 3 роки тому +51

    The screw on the ruling pen adjusts for different line widths. Also, it was designed to rule straight lines for drafting purposes. That may be why it doesn't work so well with your organic drawing style.

    • @AnsonMaddocks
      @AnsonMaddocks 3 роки тому +11

      They work amazingly on frosted-Mylar drafting film.

    • @michaelstanich3429
      @michaelstanich3429 3 роки тому +3

      Thanks, now I don't need to say it.

    • @EclecticLensYT
      @EclecticLensYT 2 роки тому +2

      Thanks! First I learn it's a pen from his video and now you let me know what it's specific purpose is. Thanks!

  • @edzejandehaan9265
    @edzejandehaan9265 3 роки тому +26

    Cool. I bought a ruling pen for applying masking fluid for use in watercolor painting.
    Maybe I should try to use it for its original purpose...
    Never seen such a funnel nib before, very interesting.

    • @peter_draws
      @peter_draws  3 роки тому +20

      That’s smart, masking fluid is a capricious beast, good at ruining brushes

    • @xyzct
      @xyzct 3 роки тому +3

      Damn, where the hell have I been? That's brilliant!

    • @graysonwolf1216
      @graysonwolf1216 3 роки тому +1

      @@peter_draws I learned a tip on using masking fluid with brushes - if you put some washing up liquid on the brush before dipping into the fluid, it helps clean the brush at the end of the process. I've done it a few times and it works ok - but I still tend to use brushes that aren't my favourite!

    • @BoingBB
      @BoingBB 3 роки тому +3

      The funnelnib pen is similar to the UNO pen, which back in the day we used for stencilling. The ruling pen adjustment is to vary the line width. I used to do technical illustrations (cutaway drawings, exploded views, etc.) and we used the ruling pen for the straight lines and a Rotring pen for corners.

  • @missmckennaslifeleverage6028
    @missmckennaslifeleverage6028 3 роки тому +48

    I swear Peter is just the most wholesome person on the internet. He always manages to make my heart happy ☺️

    • @missmckennaslifeleverage6028
      @missmckennaslifeleverage6028 3 роки тому

      @on yx oooh, never heard of them, I'll have to look them up 😊👍

    • @evilcritter
      @evilcritter 3 роки тому +1

      @on yx Crafsman is soothing, funny, and talented. Love him.

  • @yopestevens1505
    @yopestevens1505 3 роки тому +17

    Theory on flag colors: Red, blue, yellow, and sometimes green are primary colors and therefore show up the best when contrasted next to each other. Helpful on the high seas and battlefields to distinguish between friend and foe. Also designs were kept as simple as possible to avoid confusion at long distances.

    • @MichaelRozie
      @MichaelRozie 3 роки тому

      Also with shields and coats of arms you coule not place a ‘metal’ (wite or yellow) next to another metal.
      This was so you could use the other colours as an application/ ‘paint job’ on top of the metal.
      Maybe the flags evolved from this as many of the old flags still keep this ‘rule’

    • @catrionam2619
      @catrionam2619 2 роки тому +1

      Cost was also a factor, you will notice that very few flags are purple as purple dye was so expensive to make. It was used by the very wealthy as a show of wealth. Purple robes for royal, the Catholic Church had purple clothing for the higher ups and done flags for example.

  • @Colorcrayons
    @Colorcrayons 3 роки тому +10

    I love that look of excited satisfaction about his eager anticipation to draw by the inspiration of a, now sadly, archaic drafting device. I feel the same way when i watch others engage in the creative process. Its bits like that, which makes me feel less alone in the world.

  • @CanadianAlien20
    @CanadianAlien20 3 роки тому +34

    Hey Peter! Have you heard of the Pelikan Graphos? It's a drafting FOUNTIAN pen that exclusively holds India ink, and has interchangeable nibs with many sizes and styles!

    • @ichirofakename
      @ichirofakename 3 роки тому +1

      No longer made.

    • @CanadianAlien20
      @CanadianAlien20 3 роки тому

      @@ichirofakename but still cheap and easy to find on ebay

    • @ichirofakename
      @ichirofakename 3 роки тому

      @@CanadianAlien20 You like 'em? I really wanted to, but ended up getting rid of mine.

    • @CanadianAlien20
      @CanadianAlien20 3 роки тому +1

      @@ichirofakename oh yeah, they're a little weird, but I like the larger sizes for script work and logos, and the nibs being parallel to the page is much simpler than the ruling pens.

  • @spellxthief
    @spellxthief 3 роки тому +5

    loved the boxes and illustrations. also, why was i getting a little emotional when peter was reading the letter? peter's excitement and smile with the pen was so very contagious!

  • @yancowles
    @yancowles 3 роки тому +5

    I used to use one of these and I still have my set including a compass attachment. It's lovely.
    I was what was known as a 'paste-up artist' (insert gag here if required) and worked in an offset litho printers.
    Basically, this is how we did adobe illustrator before adobe illustrator.
    My job was to create artwork for all manner of print jobs which were glued down on to board (hence paste-up) and then effectively burnt on to printing plates through various processes.
    I switched to using Apple Macs when I moved to London in the 90s but it was good to have that grounding in ye olde school techniques.

  • @georgeparapadakis
    @georgeparapadakis 3 роки тому +7

    How do you guys not know about rulling pens? There used to be at least one in every compass set we had at school as kids! You could attach the tip to a stright holder, or to a the compass. They were designed for engineering drawing (using a ruller - duh!) before Steadtlers and Rotrings came about. I've never seen anyone actually writing with it! The adjusting wheel determins the thickness of the line you can draw with it.

    • @zilgill9589
      @zilgill9589 3 роки тому

      I always wondered what the heck are these for 😀

  • @BRUXXUS
    @BRUXXUS 3 роки тому +15

    The second drawing looks how a Bomb Pop tastes for me. :)
    I've also never heard of a ruling pen before, now I'm super fascinated. Looking forward to seeing the other one in action.

    • @palmjang5788
      @palmjang5788 3 роки тому +2

      LOOOL love this comment. I feel the same way. It tastes sweet like artificial blue raspberry.

    • @MichaelRozie
      @MichaelRozie 3 роки тому

      They still come with a compass to draw thicker lined circles

  • @theprogram3
    @theprogram3 3 роки тому +7

    Hey Dan is out and about, good for him! Lovely gifts to receive, I hope to send something when possible. I also wanted to add I just love to see you smile man, such a warm inviting feel. And since it is a drafting pen, do you think we'd be able to see any new architecture designs?

  • @yuhnwood
    @yuhnwood 3 роки тому +8

    keeping my eye out for lower-jaw:upper-jaw based dip pens

  • @catpawrosales4265
    @catpawrosales4265 3 роки тому +7

    What a beaut😻 another pen added to my "pen bucket list" to watch out for. And I really liked the colour drawing, so there.

  • @EPeltzer
    @EPeltzer 2 роки тому +3

    I took technical drafting in high school when they still used analog instruments and paper rather than CAD, and I always loved it as a skill and it's the same kind of satisfaction I have drawing anything in ink and watching a drawing made by Peter. When I see a pen like this I think back to the process of drafting which is what these pens were for, you know formal blueprints and design drawings. And usually you would do a pencil drawing with almost every detail of course using rulers and squares and compasses and all that. And then maybe the person doing the drawing was only a draftsperson, and the engineer or architect or whatever would have to look at it and okay the final design and make revisions. And only then would you go ahead and ink the final drawing. And this was for permanence, but it was also because duplication wouldn't pick up faint pencil lines very well. And there was a pride in that, and inking was like the virtuoso act of a master draftsperson. And you might have different specialties in the office like one person was good at inking lines and another person was better at text. A sadly lost art.

  • @robertahubert9155
    @robertahubert9155 3 роки тому +5

    What a gift to get a pen that was used to create by an engineer. How special is that! And to see the look on your face♥️. Like a child getting a gift on Christmas. Peter, you make me smile. And ML made my heart feel good to see such unselfishness by giving away a pen that he used for many years. Who knows what beautiful things he created with it.

  • @elizabethcarney1010
    @elizabethcarney1010 3 роки тому +2

    I work summers for the Bell telephone co in Washington DC in their drafting department. We used the drafting pin to draw the underground cables, as well as any time there was a repair or something added we had to update the charts. This was when I was going to college in 1960’s. I love them! We did use black India Ink!

  • @ellerikke3948
    @ellerikke3948 3 роки тому +3

    I like your pink/blue drawing, blue/pink is one of my favourite colour combos, while drawing. Also ML is very good at those drawings.

  • @herotaco
    @herotaco 3 роки тому +4

    Beautiful. A couple years back I went to a garage sale and the guy had a few cases of these and protractors, dividers and other drafting tools, I had no idea what these were for until a few months ago when I looked it up, but I bought them all for a few bucks anyway. New found excitement to try them out!

  • @2000roentgens
    @2000roentgens 3 роки тому +2

    OOH! so that is what that tool was for. When I was in primary school I had a compass scribe that had an option for a pen nib like that one and I never could figure out what on earth it was used for.

  • @TesserId
    @TesserId Рік тому +1

    There is no right distance for the blade of the ruling pen, except it won't work when completely closed (at least, not well). The adjustment determines the thickness of line. And be warned, the thicker the line, the faster the ink runs out. I have a high-capacity ruling pen specifically intended for thicker lines.

  • @TesserId
    @TesserId Рік тому +1

    You're absolutely right about the wire on the technical pen. On Leroy lettering sets, the wire is weighted to ensure a floating contact with the paper, which facilitates the flow of ink. Oh, and definitely look up Leroy lettering sets: ua-cam.com/video/GZRvQDMBEOE/v-deo.html

  • @KingJerbear
    @KingJerbear 3 роки тому +3

    Man I love to see your art in any form, but what a treat to see you drawing in multiple colors like that. And your face when you got so excited to draw after seeing the pen... what a gem.

  • @shermanhofacker4428
    @shermanhofacker4428 Рік тому +1

    In a past life I used both making drawings; now they are pulled out for applying MEK to glue cracks and broken plastic parts.

  • @incognitoedc
    @incognitoedc 2 роки тому +1

    Oooh. I have one of these tips which came with a vintage bow compass set. I've never known how to use it until seeing this video. Thank you so much. Now I'm off to try it with my various fountain pen inks....this is exciting to learn something new about something old...

  • @katpaints
    @katpaints 3 роки тому +2

    How delightful! I have both my dad's and my husband's drafting sets. Ruling pens are the part I use the most and that is mostly when using masking fluid. The thicker the ink, the wider the line that is possible. India Ink was the most used from what I remember and tightening and loosening that screw gave you so much control over your lines! It is so sad that mechanical drawing is no longer taught with good tools. And it is sad that you have not inherited a set yourself! The ruling pen was built so that you can literally lean it against a ruler to make straight lines. There is usually several types of compasses in a set -- including an ink tip or one that lets you use a ruling pen, so inked circles were simple to accomplish. One of my dad's old books also explains how to use it. He was born in 1911... I was born in 1946. Things have changed.

    • @Erocks301
      @Erocks301 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for sharing what you know. I appreciate it.

    • @clarisacalderon9555
      @clarisacalderon9555 5 місяців тому

      Would you happen to know the name of the book? I git a set my self and am pretty lost on how to use it properly

    • @katpaints
      @katpaints 5 місяців тому

      @@clarisacalderon9555 the classes high schools used to have were called Mechanical Drawing,. You can see how there are similar ends to a lot of the small pieces - at least in what I have. They are interchangeable for pins, leads and ink. The pins are for keeping the tool in the same place. My husband said that there was a thin pad that was self-healing that went on top of the drawing surface.

    • @katpaints
      @katpaints 5 місяців тому

      Look for something on video. Lots of people use the inking pens for watercolor but the new ones are not as nice ase the old ones made for even the cheaper sets. Enjoy figuring it out.

    • @clarisacalderon9555
      @clarisacalderon9555 5 місяців тому

      @@katpaints thank you :)

  • @jakek.6279
    @jakek.6279 3 роки тому +1

    Just wanted to say I used to watch you a lot in the past, didn't watch you for many years and I have recently dove back into your content and I'm enjoying every minute of it. I listen to your "Content-Free Podcasts" and I really enjoy them. I hope you start a new podcast sometime soon, I have 20 more to listen to so I have plenty of time left. Have a nice day Peter, keep doing what you're doin.

  • @zilgill9589
    @zilgill9589 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you ML for giving so much happiness to Peter to share with us all. ❤️🖖

  • @RijuChatterjee
    @RijuChatterjee 3 роки тому +1

    I've owned, but not used, cheaper versions of these; they came with a drafting kit I bought for my first-year drafting course in engineering school a couple of years ago.

  • @MichaelHalbert1952
    @MichaelHalbert1952 3 роки тому

    I think the name of the pen kinda says what the pen is for. The main purpose of the pen is to draw uniform lines with a straight edge, such as a triangle, t-square, or templates. The adjustment is to adjust the thickness of the line. It's like having a whole set of technical pens in one pen. It's main purpose is for doing mechanical drawings, but I've seen artists use them for more expressive work -- as Peter has demonstrated here.

  • @HomesteadHoneyCrafts
    @HomesteadHoneyCrafts 3 роки тому +1

    ML sounds like my brother, very creative with gift giving. They don't realize the time and thought they put into the gift are almost as good as the gift. Or do they? They are special people.❤

  • @TesserId
    @TesserId Рік тому +1

    Yes, India ink is the default for inking in drafting.

  • @irvy4u
    @irvy4u 3 роки тому +1

    Ruling pens are some of my favourite instruments.

  • @josepholmedo724
    @josepholmedo724 3 роки тому +1

    I love your video’s Peter, I’ve been watching for a couple of years and it’s always satisfying

  • @MyNameIsCrow
    @MyNameIsCrow 3 роки тому +1

    Ur my favorite person bro

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch 3 роки тому +3

    Hello everybody

  • @Kenzie-Soup.n.Squash
    @Kenzie-Soup.n.Squash 3 роки тому +1

    Beautiful drawings as always, now I want one of those pens, I have a few bottles of ink I need to open again

  • @nathanaelcard
    @nathanaelcard 3 роки тому +1

    For what it's worth, this doesn't feel patriotic at all to me because it's so organic and asymmetric. patriotic imagery tends to be geometric and symmetric. I like the combo of these two colors.

  • @TesserId
    @TesserId Рік тому +1

    No, don't dip the ruling pen in the ink. Well, if you use it along side a straight edge, you don't want to get ink on the straight edge (messy). India ink is generally the thing (or a colored ink of a similar consistency), and you feed it with a dropper between the pen's blades. In fact, straight edges are supposed to be raised off the paper slightly to keep it from getting sucked under the straight edge by capillary action. I still have drafting triangles with drafting tape on them to raise them off the paper. And, keep in mind, these really are for making straight lines (very straight lines). Drafting involves hordes of straight lines.

    • @TesserId
      @TesserId Рік тому +1

      Oh, no, no, no, no. 7:02 They're not meant to go that direction. They're meant to be drawn across the page is if the two blades are cutting parallel grooves.

    • @TesserId
      @TesserId Рік тому +1

      Ruling pens can be tilted, but only in the plane that allows both blades of the pen to contact the paper.

  • @mikenel9793
    @mikenel9793 3 роки тому +1

    Doodle a guitar
    Some strings broken
    Eye balls and ears
    IN It and on this
    Guitar
    Be iinspired!!

  • @NoDecaf7
    @NoDecaf7 3 роки тому +1

    Lookin good, Peter 😎

  • @ZirayaAlex
    @ZirayaAlex 3 роки тому +1

    What a cool pen! I have a question. Have you ever looked into the old art style "kurbits"? It is still used in traditional Swedish craftsmanship for example. I feel like you'd enjoy the style, or at least get inspired by it.

  • @krzysztofwaleska
    @krzysztofwaleska 2 роки тому

    Sweeet! So simple. Especially this ,,Rotring'' prototype. So simple to DIY with syringe needle... tempting...

  • @floorticket
    @floorticket 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting about a good pen inspiring you/making you want to draw/use it. Similar to what David Crosby said about a really good acoustic guitar. They make you want to pick them up and play them.

  • @matthuck378
    @matthuck378 3 місяці тому

    For me drawing with black vs drawing with a full color palette is like going from 2D to 3D. It's a whole dimensional shift. It's huge.
    It felt similar with chemical photography. Color was literally a whole new dimension.

  • @rbeehner2
    @rbeehner2 5 місяців тому

    As noted here by others, I also was a draftsman in the late 60's and early 70's and made inked drawings on Linen "paper" of dental instruments. I used ruling pens and compasses both with adjustable nibs for drawing lines of specific widths using the sides of straight edges, triangles, French curves, and templates all held above the paper surface to prevent ink flowing under the item. For the use (adjustments) and care of rule ink pens see You Tube video by Purdue University "Tracing with Ink" (1955). the end of that video describes how to sharpen the nibs.

  • @seanseoltoir
    @seanseoltoir 4 місяці тому

    When I started drafting back in the 1970s, we used that type of pen, but we just called them "drafting pens". We had compasses that used that same sort of tip. Other than lettering, most drafting involves straight lines (via straightedges) or lines via compass, so the pen is normally oriented vertically and the two surfaces of the tip are set to be aligned in the same direction that the line is being drawn. As such, if you don't have any ink in it, you get two parallel scratches on the paper. I remember switching to the Rapidiogragh type of drafting pen not too long after that. They were quite a bit more expensive, but with the Leroy lettering machine, you ended up with very professional looking lettering. Drawings were normally done with pencil and on paper initially and once finalized, we would put a light clean coat of a spray can polyurethane to keep the pencil marks from smudging. For archival or presentations, we would then use a translucent matte finish polyester film and ink. Drafting tables often had light sources under them back then and the paper drawing would be put over it and then the polyester film. You could then trace the original drawing, leaving out any unnecessary guide lines. The Rapidiograph pens were a bit more finicky to keep clean and it was entirely too easy to accidentally bend the pin that went down the ink tube, but the consistency of the lines made it worthwhile. I actually stumbled across one of my ruling pens the other day while searching for something else and since I had a bottle of India ink, I tried it out... Even after 50 years, it still works as good as I remember it ever working... I have no idea where the rest of the drafting set that it came with ended up though... Perhaps a better question is why this pen has not been lost after so many years and moves / changes of duty stations...

  • @archivist17
    @archivist17 3 роки тому +1

    I have a very old ruling pen. It's a bit quirky, but nonetheless fun to play with.

  • @traviscorwin4817
    @traviscorwin4817 Місяць тому

    I’ve been warned that drafting pens shouldn’t use India ink because it can damage their metal. So I’d be cautious and look into it more if I was you. I just got an old drafting set and these pens are a pleasure to use.

  • @markferguson3365
    @markferguson3365 8 місяців тому

    I noticed, at least in these illustrations, with black ink you drew more ridgoudly, and more curvy and fluid with colors.

  • @jrsinsf
    @jrsinsf 3 роки тому +2

    Dan!!! so great to see you out and about... i thought maybe you were quarantining for covid
    We were taught how to use these pens when I was in the 8th grade for our mechanical drawing class. There was also an adjustable nib that could be attached to a compass, and the line width could be adjusted to match the ruling pen.
    The original intent was to make lines on technical drawings using a special ruler. After you finished your pencil drawing, you would ink the drawing using these pens.
    So cool to see you make art drawings with this pen. I never would have thought you could use it in this way.
    And yes, you can of course use india inks with this pen.

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 3 роки тому

      Did your rulers and squares have little bumps to hold the edge off the page so the ink of the line would not be drawn under the ruler by capillary action? I have a 45deg. and a 30-60-90 deg. squares like that from my father who was an engineer.

    • @jrsinsf
      @jrsinsf 3 роки тому

      @@fredericapanon207 yes, the ruling edge was raised for that exact reason

  • @paulklee5790
    @paulklee5790 3 роки тому

    Then I first started my degree course in Graphic Design in 1975 London we spent the first two weeks learning to use just these tools... no Macs no Photoshop, everything was done with pen, brush and scalpel... and boy was it a useful thing to know too! Lost skills eh! Thank you..!
    PS.. you mainly used them for laying out geometric shapes and lettering rather than freehand drawing... they work great with thinned down gouache or poster paints and we would fill the nib with a brush... frankly to use them well did take many hours of practice.... no wonder we kept to Freehand and Illustrator as soon as they came along....

  • @vikasjsheth
    @vikasjsheth 2 роки тому

    Back in the day...the 60s-70s my father used to make Engineering drawings with this kind of pen. He used to enjoy it quite a lot!

  • @vladyarotsky5287
    @vladyarotsky5287 3 роки тому

    I didn't know it could be used with normal ink rather than with India ink it was designed for. In Russia it is commonly known by its German name Reißfeder (cyrillized of course as "рейсфедер" and pronounced as "race fadder"). It was standard engineering tool and is common in houses of former and current engineers. You can still buy it as a standalone item or as a part of technical drawing sets. It may be is still used in engineering education and/or in architectural education where it makes some sense actually.
    But its secondary, sometimes primary use was as precise tweezers first of all and mostly for eyebrows form correction. Soviet women loved it. It was usually of good quality and easier to get than specialized tools.

  • @andyvan5692
    @andyvan5692 3 роки тому

    PETER, stop, I don't think the "pen" is the writing instrument!- think it is the 'well' you showed earlier, the pen is just a 'pin vice' like a watchmaker, jeweler, etc. uses, and it grips the metal part of the 'well'; just like a "tech pen" the needle is the tip, just like some older "brush" type nib pens you hold it at an angle, and it is the tip of the reservour that distributes the ink!!

  • @ducksoff7236
    @ducksoff7236 2 роки тому

    I don't want to be a jerk but "I don't think you can even buy these anymore." There are 100's of them on amazon..........

  • @Aethertopia369
    @Aethertopia369 7 місяців тому

    I believe there is a lot of red, white, and blue used in Ancient Egypt, also they were big users of the very early reed pen. Last fall, I made a bunch of reed pens from the patches of reeds growing on the side of the road, they are fun to use. If anyone has them growing near you, I recommend trying it.

  • @john80944
    @john80944 3 роки тому

    Wait. Have you tried soda can pen? There are several littering pen design you can try online.
    Of course it wouldn't be as good as commercial products, but the mechanism is pretty similar to ML.

  • @amjPeace
    @amjPeace Рік тому

    Oh my goodness, hello Peter! Long time no see! I was searching for the name of that tool with the funnel nib (turns out it is called a funnel nib haha) and this video of yours from a year ago popped up. It is so good to see you! Be well and have a happy New Year! Your friend Annie from NH.

  • @AshGCG
    @AshGCG Рік тому

    My father had a lovely case with many pieces like this inside. Tips with different degrees of curve along with bodies a-plenty. Various types and sizes of compass. Some of the pieces used small lengths of lead that were kept in a metal tube. Spare(?) and different tipped needle points in another. In the same draw as this set there was always a bottle of black Indian ink. He had retired when I was young and never witnessed him use anything other than the compasses, so I am only assuming the Indian Ink was what he had used with the pens.

  • @agradoville
    @agradoville 3 роки тому +1

    very cool tools. The first (2nd) drawing looks like a crazy model's high heel shoe of some sort. Amazing to see how easily that pen just worked. the scratch was very satisfying to hear. Loved the color combo and just the color in general. As a viewer it just added something to it. I couldn't keep my eyes still and was constantly bouncing around the colors etc. Anyway, keep posting these satisfying and informative vids Peter!

  • @deanfukawa3260
    @deanfukawa3260 3 роки тому

    Aloha Peter, you are correct; ruling pens work better with more viscous inks, like India ink. You can load more ink in reservoir space as more viscous ink has greater surface tension. Screw on nib is to adjust thickness of line. When I used to use ruling pen, I always used at angle, not perpendicular to paper. Was wondering about your process. To you have something concrete in mind before drawing, or does your artwork just grow organically?

  • @BlacksmithTim
    @BlacksmithTim 3 роки тому

    Hammering into metal to create designs without removing metal (that would be engraving) is referred to as "repousse". Googling that should find more information than you know what to do with. Sheet copper is the most common metal I've seen used for that. Generally the copper sheet is stuck to a "pitch block" which is a mixture of beewax and some other ingredients. Various stamping tools similar to leather carving tools are used. Generally a light mallet is the only other tool that I recall beyond a heat source for annealing the copper. I've played with it a very little, watched it more.

  • @geoffreygriffiths1487
    @geoffreygriffiths1487 3 роки тому

    My father was a professional engineer who started his career as a draftsman in the 1950's. I have seen many of these pen tips. The reason for the finely adjustable nib has to do with drafting standards. If you look at modern pens for drafting they come in standard widths .5, .8, 1mm etc. as well. The draftsman could align the nib with a rule to get the standard width for the line type they were about to draw. If you google it you could probably find information about the types of ink they would have used.

  • @Pearlflower1
    @Pearlflower1 3 роки тому

    i have a whole set with compass and still this day i only use thecompass , i have no idea what this do until now, IT A PEN ???????????????

  • @PhilieBlunt666
    @PhilieBlunt666 2 роки тому

    The metal work id say copper or brass mebbe aluminum, soft metals... and you use a nylon or rawhide mallet, the same kinda things used for leather working. Id love to see what you come up with for that. I really enjoy your drawing styles, it'd look really killer stamped into metals. Can't wait 🙃

  • @EclecticLensYT
    @EclecticLensYT 2 роки тому

    I've had a box of these pens in my desk for the last 12 years! They came in a box of misc stuff I purchased at an auction. No one that's ever seen them, including myself, have ever had a clue what they are! If anyone did have a guess it was nomally some sort of holder or tool. I'm going to have to see how they work.
    I find your videos relaxing and sometimes, like this one, also educational. Thanks!

  • @dmc31405
    @dmc31405 2 роки тому

    You're a nut Peter. lol.... In a good way... I think all of us who are afflicted with pen and ink obsessiveness are touched in a certain sort of indescribable way. By the way your art and your imagination is awesome. I hope you never have to embrace the real world in regards to keeping the lights on and food in the pantry.

  • @lukedarlow3580
    @lukedarlow3580 3 роки тому

    Hey Peter, have you ever considered doing a tattoo apprenticeship? I think your style would be amazing as a tattoo. At least, you could/should consider letting people get your designs as tattoos.

  • @deemdoubleu
    @deemdoubleu 3 роки тому

    First think I thought was that perhaps you should have tried drawing on technical drafting film as in the old days!
    My first couple of days of my Engineering Apprenticeship here in England were spent sharpening my newly issued pencil to a chisel tip and drawing parallel lines perfectly at a 3mm spacing on drafting film. If they weren't perfect, you did them all again. You soon learn to do things properly under threat of having to repeat and miss lunch.

  • @bradyspace
    @bradyspace 3 роки тому

    If I recall the flag colors largely came up after the French Revolution. A lot of the Red and Blue was regarding different parties or different emphasis, state or federal. In fact here in the US, Republicans used to be blue and democrats red, which was flipped later. White was important to, associated with peace or Holiness. At one time the French flag was totally white, meaning full spectrum of color or unity, and somehow it was associated with surrender. Don't remember if it was their folly at the time or it was already associated with that, and goofed with the color choice. Anyways, they have red on one side, blue on the other and white in the middle, meaning peace and unity of the two sides.

  • @gillianbc
    @gillianbc 3 роки тому

    Watercolour artists still use these all the time for applying masking fluid or sometimes liquid ink or watercolour. I got mine from amazon or ebay, so they're still available for a couple of quid for anyone who would like to try.

  • @tawdrywriter
    @tawdrywriter 3 роки тому

    These pens are made for ruling lines of an adjustable width.technical drawings rather than sketching.think house plans

  • @chrisbliss2034
    @chrisbliss2034 3 роки тому

    The ruling pen, sometimes called a bow pen, is beloved of model makers ; it can be charged with paint and used to apply exquisitely fine lines on scale models. A disappearing art.

  • @martinlebl631
    @martinlebl631 3 роки тому

    You rough up the bottom layer of metal, which is usually the harder one, like steel. This is done with chisel like tools. Then you hammer in the softer metal, often copper, gold, etc., and as it is flattened in between the irregular rough cuts below the two bond. Very nice medieval armor was made this way.

  • @andyvan5692
    @andyvan5692 3 роки тому

    No, peter, they do look great, like a 1950's era book/manual illustration, great work!!

  • @Roseyfinchartworks
    @Roseyfinchartworks 3 роки тому

    I’ve used it for applying masking fluid for watercolor

  • @andrewnawarycz3026
    @andrewnawarycz3026 3 роки тому

    Used to have a ruling pen that could also be attached to my technical drawing instruments, i.e - compass....

  • @BobbysWorld_of_Art
    @BobbysWorld_of_Art Рік тому

    I just picked up the one from KOH-I-NOOR. Thanks for showing me what to do with it 🤩

  • @kitimitsu10
    @kitimitsu10 3 роки тому

    Have not used a ruling pen since my days in college! Used for mainly straight lines using paint or ink with a ruler or compass. When using paint you want to ensure the paint is a thinner consistency but not too thin else it just runs out, too thick and you won't get smooth uninterrupted line work. And you can vary the widths of the line by adjusting the screw. Great for when you want very precise line work that you cannot get with a brush. For example, if you wanted to paint a red square. Using the ruling pen with a ruler, you would draw the 4 edges or lines of the square in red paint or ink and then fill in the square using a brush. Dipping the ruling pen in the ink bottle is messy, usually best to use a brush to partially fill the open sides with a brush or use a glass dropper.

  • @PhilieBlunt666
    @PhilieBlunt666 2 роки тому

    My dude I absolutely love how no matter what it is you don't look into hiw to use it and just are like I'm gonna dip ot and scribble, lets go! Its very cathartic. Love it

  • @dawngeorge7921
    @dawngeorge7921 3 роки тому +1

    I love how happy the ruling pen made you 💕

  • @SethKotta
    @SethKotta 3 роки тому

    You know, I think I have a full drafting set of these, including compass.

  • @DWGuitar111
    @DWGuitar111 Рік тому

    I have a pen similar to that in an old drafting kit. I didn’t know what it was. I thought it had something missing. Now I have a new pen to play with...Yay!

  • @martinlebl631
    @martinlebl631 3 роки тому

    These are great, as they can be cleaned, so you can use nasty stuff you can't in fountain or dip pens. India ink, or even paint, as the parts are all steel, so even if you don't wash it before it dries, you can still use paint thinner, which would destroy most pens, and/or their feeds.

  • @elizdonovan5650
    @elizdonovan5650 Рік тому

    For anyone that is interested, modern ruling pens etc can be bought on eBay for reasonable price.
    🌲🌝☘️

  • @zoethegreatfish
    @zoethegreatfish 2 роки тому

    Use it perpendicular to the page. I use these with Acrylic Paint to make fine lines on the border of icons and halos, in Christian religious paintings.

  • @fredericantennenhorst9593
    @fredericantennenhorst9593 3 роки тому

    What is funny is that the "i am an engineer" comment really hints at him being so self-critical rather then the quality of his art being low or child-like. in art you can always be criticized whereas in the field of science or even more of engineering you cannot really criticize something. if the thing works it works.

  • @Fractus
    @Fractus 3 роки тому

    I feel like for your drawing to be like Margaret MacDonald's you'd need a thin line connecting those strings of dots.

  • @emm_arr
    @emm_arr 3 роки тому

    Seeing you work in color is interestng. Maybe you should do that some more.
    Stay safe!

  • @vdochev
    @vdochev Рік тому

    My mom has a few of these pens as a part of a Richter set. What kind of ink are you using with it? Can I use standard fountain pen ink?

  • @tracefrahm6187
    @tracefrahm6187 3 роки тому

    Don’t comment often Peter but I absolutely loved the red and blue drawing, I wanna tattoo or poster or something of it

  • @moosehead482
    @moosehead482 3 роки тому

    I trained on these in high school and college. I was pretty good with them too. Then Rapidographs came along and these went the way of the dodo bird...

  • @nilebes4742
    @nilebes4742 3 роки тому

    Hello peter, a little while ago in a video you made where you did something digital, i dont remember what you had minecraft on your taskbar. I have no idea what you do or if you use it at all but if you do i think it would be cool to see what sort of things you are creating or doing.