How to Write the Character Arc

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  • @luiza9253
    @luiza9253 Рік тому +98

    I saw the notification, did a little dance and immediately started watching it ✨

    • @EllenBrock
      @EllenBrock  Рік тому +11

      I hope you find it helpful!

    • @Oli_Mili
      @Oli_Mili Рік тому +4

      same!! :)

    • @lyingcat9022
      @lyingcat9022 8 місяців тому

      Suck up…
      Haha jk ;)

    • @luisaah5707
      @luisaah5707 7 місяців тому

      I need to do the same! I love these videos sooo much. I rewatched the writer types at least 4 times.

  • @estressediario8508
    @estressediario8508 Рік тому +75

    I usually dont interact much, but holy moly if your videos aren't some of the best writing advice i've ever seen (even including some big names like sanderson)

    • @EllenBrock
      @EllenBrock  Рік тому +16

      Wow, thank you! That means a lot!

  • @ichbifeuertrunk
    @ichbifeuertrunk Рік тому +58

    Not only are these analysis useful, they're structured in such an elegant way that they have a beauty in themselves.

  • @Ashley.Berensen
    @Ashley.Berensen Рік тому +75

    I’ve been doing a lot of writing research to help improve my story and I hear a lot of the same terms and ideas thrown around and I always THINK I understand, until I watch your videos. They always clarify the haziness and get right to the heart of things. I’m so grateful you take the time to make these videos despite not feeling well. ❤

    • @EllenBrock
      @EllenBrock  Рік тому +29

      I'm so glad these videos help! It took me a long time to understand these things. It doesn't come naturally to me, and so I've tried really hard to explain things in a way that would have made sense to me back when I was watching/reading everything and still struggling to get it.

  • @ZachScottB
    @ZachScottB 6 місяців тому +20

    "The lesson will always be the opposite of the belief."
    "The belief should cause problems in the story."
    I needed these explanations.

  • @bangboom123
    @bangboom123 Рік тому +10

    Had to pause the video when I heard your definition for character motivation. "A feeling that the character wants to experience". It's so good!

  • @joesjoeys
    @joesjoeys Рік тому +10

    I was just thinking yesterday that I hope theres a new Ellen Brock video soon, and here we are!

  • @GreyscaleGod
    @GreyscaleGod 10 місяців тому +7

    I like the idea of the MC's initial belief (in a positive arc) being a maladaptive way of preventing the opposite of the motivation; i.e., Shrek's motivation is acceptance, so he has a maladaptive belief (it's better to be alone because people will reject you otherwise) to avoid rejection.

  • @DefektiveEnvy
    @DefektiveEnvy Рік тому +14

    I appreciate you clarifying the difference between motivation and goal

  • @probablynot6995
    @probablynot6995 Рік тому +17

    your explanation of the motivation is really good, clarifies it and made it click in a way other sources didnt

  • @straps-of-skin
    @straps-of-skin Рік тому +12

    This is exactly the kind of content ive been looking for. Would love a series like your plot structure series, breaking down each kind of character arc.

  • @annahcreates
    @annahcreates Рік тому +53

    I love every single one of your videos! You are so thorough and technical. It helps so much!

  • @booklanerecommendations
    @booklanerecommendations Рік тому +18

    Thank you so much! As a mostly character-driven writer, I do struggle with goals a lot and this video helped me realize I don't need a single 'main' goal since the goal can change throughout the story. And defining the goal as the way to get the core feeling the MC wants to have makes it easier for me to distinguish the goals and how they can move the story forward. I've already identified several goals in my current story and how they serve as the MC's attempts to get this feeling (in Bailey's case, love), and I'm hoping I can raise the stakes of the chapter I'm currently writing by connecting his current goal more directly to his motivation.

    • @EllenBrock
      @EllenBrock  Рік тому +1

      I'm so glad this video helped you with figuring out the goals! Good luck with your novel!

    • @booklanerecommendations
      @booklanerecommendations Рік тому

      @@EllenBrock Thank you!

  • @mageprometheus
    @mageprometheus Рік тому +5

    This truly brought home the relationships between these concepts. The notes in my second brain (Obsidian) that I take from your videos are some of the best I have. 💜

  • @lexiderbidge4675
    @lexiderbidge4675 Рік тому +8

    I am so grateful for your videos! They really hadn't helped increase my skill and have encouraged me to write my books. Thank you Ellen! Thank you for providing this information for free to every inspiring author.

  • @littlemeow6729
    @littlemeow6729 Рік тому +7

    Wow! Really appreciate your explanation.. I was working on my MC to make him realistic and believable..and i was confused to find his true motivation. Thanks for great explanation 🥰💗✨

  • @kriistyrules
    @kriistyrules Рік тому +1

    Yesterday i was thinking about how no matter how much i studied creative writing, i couldn't get the character arc right, and now there's a video of my favorite writing channel about it. Thanks Ellen, you're doing an amazing job!

  • @socman002
    @socman002 Рік тому

    This is the smartest writer, editor, assessor you will ever come across on UA-cam.

  • @Al-rn5qy
    @Al-rn5qy Рік тому +8

    Great video Ellen! Character arcs were the very thing I struggle with in writing my story, so I'm so glad you addressed this topic in this way. Please keep making awesome content 👍

  • @sapphiremaiden2356
    @sapphiremaiden2356 28 днів тому

    I've been struggling so much with my character arcs and I feel like this will help me break through!! Thank you so much!

  • @gunterpeterson3716
    @gunterpeterson3716 4 місяці тому +1

    I have been doing a ton of watching UA-cam videos to prepare myself for writing my book, but this has TRULY been the first video that has actually helped. Most people just say things that don’t really mean anything for content, but your explanations and examples really made me understand the concepts you were describing. Thank you so much!!!

  • @Chickentopramen123
    @Chickentopramen123 Рік тому +10

    Hi Ellen! Great information as always! I really like those summaries at the end as any video can be a lot of information and I think this helps me with implementing your advice for the next time I write. Thanks again for another articulate and well laid out lesson!

    • @EllenBrock
      @EllenBrock  Рік тому

      You are so welcome! I'm glad you liked the summary at the end!

  • @firechickeng.6912
    @firechickeng.6912 2 місяці тому

    This is really helpful, I'm really glad you used shrek as an example. My smooth brain appreciates it.

  • @splendor666
    @splendor666 Місяць тому

    This is the best video about character arc. You summarized it very well and put it on a simply way that I can understand it.

  • @sammyranyx6710
    @sammyranyx6710 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for this breakdown! Super informative as always

  • @AriellaMc
    @AriellaMc 9 місяців тому +1

    Ellen you give by far the best writing advice I've ever heard! The way you break down and explain the concepts is so simple and elegant, and actually makes me excited to write, rather than feeling overwhelmed and out of my league. Thank you thank you thank you!! Please never stop making videos

  • @callmechristian3900
    @callmechristian3900 2 місяці тому

    Your videos are so good. I’ve heard so much about motivation, goal and beliefs. So much. But now I feel like I really get it. You are very good at this. Thank you.

  • @joonfanatic2140
    @joonfanatic2140 Рік тому +2

    I was just checking yesterday to see if you posted a new video and I missed the notification somehow and now there’s a new video yayyy!! ❤️

  • @ZachScottB
    @ZachScottB 6 місяців тому

    It took me months of google research and UA-cam watching to find this information.
    Except, you present this info in such a nicely compacted, condensed way.
    My 12 pages of feral info... vs your paragraph of pure gold.
    TY ❤

  • @mikechick651
    @mikechick651 6 місяців тому

    even as a already published author your videos help out tremendously. Keep up the good work

  • @Boniparteboni
    @Boniparteboni 19 днів тому

    Thank you so much, i saw many video about this topic and this was far the best, I am gonna watch it again later, and propably many times more. You are an amazing teacher 🎉🎉🎉

  • @rineatorise
    @rineatorise 10 місяців тому

    The audacity I have every time I think that I don't *really* have to watch another Ellen video, and then each time you absolutely crush that one problem i didn't even knew I had! It's always that weird feeling that creeps in the back of my head that I ignore because I don't understand how to fix it 😭 Your videos are pure gold!

  • @rachelthompson9324
    @rachelthompson9324 Рік тому +1

    excellent presentation, thanks Ellen. You get down to the core things we all need to use in our work

  • @jared1862
    @jared1862 5 місяців тому

    That motivation bit is incredible

  • @tayh.6235
    @tayh.6235 Рік тому +1

    This was brilliant! It literally helped me finish working out these elements for one of my main characters. Now I feel much more excited to write the next section of this first draft 😊

  • @ella.ztr7
    @ella.ztr7 Рік тому +5

    I love your videos so much! This really helped me and cleared up some questions. However, once question I have is what do you do with major side characters (who later might become one the brim of main characters)? How detailed should their character arcs be, and how tied should they be to the plot?
    Amazing video as always Ellen!

    • @thethmooteresa
      @thethmooteresa Рік тому

      Personally I think it's whole up to u and how much of the side characters are really 'side' characters, how involved are they with the protagonist or main characters? ☆~☆
      Overall anything can work, best of luck buddy!!!

  • @Yomi-san
    @Yomi-san Рік тому +1

    Thank you, for this and all your other work here on youtube. My head is spinning with the mechanics of writing but through watching and rewatching, the pieces are slowly falling into place. After this video, I revisited my current story and created a simple arc overview which I can now write against. If my character veers off track, I simply use the overview as my guide to question which direction they would take next.

  • @livechangechallenge
    @livechangechallenge 7 місяців тому

    Hi Ellen, I've just found your channel and am so grateful for you! I'm embarking on writing my first novel and have been struggling to know where to start, how to plan etc. This has really helped me understand what questions I need to ask myself in order to write this story. Thank you!

  • @tharding2870
    @tharding2870 Рік тому +5

    Great explanation. Thank you! (Hope you feel better soon 🙂)

  • @annbe1l
    @annbe1l Рік тому +1

    I love your videos. They are straightforward, detailed, and really help me think about my stories and writing. I really needed to hear about this topic in particular. I think I finally figured out how to move into my story's climax.
    Thank you so much for this!
    As a side note: I'd love to see a video about how the character arc intersects with the darkest hour plot point.

  • @vanessafowler1047
    @vanessafowler1047 Рік тому +3

    So helpful. Great video! Thank you!

  • @JayDay04
    @JayDay04 7 місяців тому

    Thank you so much Ellen! Thanks to your video I finally nailed down the foundations of my three main characters' arcs! Now the next challenge is to make all their arcs connected somehow. I think that'd be great idea for a video, how to make the main characters' arcs relate to eachother in a story.

  • @jonathanisaiah_MusicN810
    @jonathanisaiah_MusicN810 11 місяців тому

    Hi Ellen, I discovered your videos on writing a couple days ago. I'm so glad I did! I've been doing research to improve my writing recently and I appreciate the way you explain different writing components. This video in particular continues to be a great help to me as I've referred to it for my manuscript. Thank you for these videos, I appreciate you and believe I'm becoming a stronger writer because of your willingness to share your expertise with us!

  • @faithrendles2188
    @faithrendles2188 Рік тому

    This is fantastic! Sometimes so much of different language can be used to describe the writing process, it’s good to see it broken down like you do! Keep it up!!

  • @igamergirl14
    @igamergirl14 11 місяців тому

    That was very clear! As I've said many times before I feel like you are one of the few people I can listen to on writing and feel like I can more fully understand the writing process. It manages to be succinct and not feel like every other tip/guide out there. One thing that would be nice to see in the crafting video (and I know this might be too late to change with the lateness of this comment) but it would be interesting to go over several arcs from one crafted story. To me a lot of villian arcs would probably be flat, while the main protagonists often get the most extreme changes, so seeing how all of the arcs interact with one another in one story would be much more helpful than several from different stories.

  • @mel_9346
    @mel_9346 11 місяців тому

    Please, please, do the more character videos, I love how you explain everything.

  • @mariano7107
    @mariano7107 Рік тому +1

    Hi Ellen! Thanks so much for another excellent video. I’ve seen these concepts explained several times before, in other videos and craft books, but I think this is the first time the explanation makes so much sense to me. It’s not the first time that’s true with one of your videos! One thing I’d like to see, maybe in a follow up video, are some movie or book examples for the three less common arcs. Although I understand them conceptually, I’m having a hard time coming up with examples that illustrate them.

  • @winterrenes1249
    @winterrenes1249 11 місяців тому

    You are the best at explaining the ins and outs of story and character. I know I can trust your videos to be full of useful quality information. Thank you so much! I didn't even think about goal-oriented or motivation-oriented characters. It's a totally new concept to me. Wow! 😃🥰

  • @Oli_Mili
    @Oli_Mili Рік тому +1

    I love this! Thank you so much! It took me a while to realize what my character's goal was and this actually helped me figure it out :) and made me want to rewatch Shrek :)

  • @catsgrin618
    @catsgrin618 10 місяців тому

    A key insight, explained perfectly. This brings much needed focus to my storytelling. You are brilliant. Thank you!

  • @vanessahutcheson9510
    @vanessahutcheson9510 11 місяців тому +1

    Luke Skywalker is a great example of the light flat arc. Luke persists in the belief that Vader has good in him even as everyone else (including Vader himself) says that Vader is too far gone. It makes things harder for Luke, but ultimately more rewarding.

  • @scatteredperceptions890
    @scatteredperceptions890 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your videos! You always explain things in a way that clicks for me and leaves me empowered for my own writing ❤

  • @Benz74M
    @Benz74M 5 місяців тому

    I have these Three Investigators books. My favorite series as a kid, which give me the desire to write stories. ☺

  • @theboldbear1973
    @theboldbear1973 11 місяців тому

    Your videos have been the most helpful resource so far for me. This video addressed something which has been causing me to get stuck with my current story. I have a good idea of the plot, but nailing down the character arc needs more work. Looking forward to the video on how character arc works with plot.

  • @nodonn99999
    @nodonn99999 Рік тому

    Another precious gift of knowledge from Ellen. Bless you.

  • @mezlyndon662
    @mezlyndon662 Рік тому

    Such a great way to explain it, especially as to how each part ties together or counters the other parts. Really helpful way for me to think about it into the future. Thanks!

  • @PaulaScardamalia
    @PaulaScardamalia Рік тому

    Perfect timing, Ellen. Thank you for the clear distinctions and tips.

  • @anthonythorne8708
    @anthonythorne8708 Рік тому

    Well done Ellen! I'd read tons of story structure books but has always struggled to totally grasp this one. I'm just a few minutes into this video but it's already beginning to click. Good work and thank you.

  • @LoveSaidNo
    @LoveSaidNo Рік тому +1

    Another great video that sparked so much inspiration! You are able to phrase your explanations in a really clear way that opens my mind each time - I want to go back to my novel immediately. Your advices are always so precious. Thank you! ❤

  • @billharm6006
    @billharm6006 11 місяців тому

    Best advice on topic that I've run across. I don't say that casually. I've read whole books on the topic and came away with less.

  • @trillgutterbug9378
    @trillgutterbug9378 10 місяців тому

    This was incredibly helpful! Very concise, simple, and detailed.

  • @ugandahannah
    @ugandahannah 8 місяців тому

    This is the most helpful video on this topic I've seen.

  • @Anilemable
    @Anilemable Рік тому +2

    Thank you!! That's beyond helpful! Love your videos!

  • @rockbandny
    @rockbandny 20 днів тому +2

    I usually bring a character to their ugliest then if it's negative leave them there, if it's positive I bring them back (not the whole way)

  • @sally3559
    @sally3559 7 місяців тому

    I'm so glad I stumbled over your videos. They are great! Good examples and well explained❤

  • @evanteuteberg651
    @evanteuteberg651 Рік тому

    This is really helpful, thanks! The Shrek example clarified things for me.

  • @Farmynator
    @Farmynator Рік тому

    Thanks for your tips throughout the years!
    Idea I'd love to see for a next video:
    The benefits of using a typewriter compared to a computer for editing your works!

  • @AnnCedeno
    @AnnCedeno 11 місяців тому

    Best explanation I’ve heard so far.

  • @ceve
    @ceve 11 місяців тому

    You explain things so clearly, thank you! I have three main characters who briefly share their journey and then become antagonists. I realized I could only easily assign motivation, goal, belief and lesson to one of them. I'll keep on brute forcing Y first drafts in hopes they begin to take a more recognizable form to the shape it for the second draft. At least I now know what to aim for.
    Also, the character I whose elements I could recognize has a flat arc dark version for book 1 and a positive arc for book 2 (the final one). I always thought she had a negative character arc but her belief was negative to begin with so that wasn't the case, so thanks for that as well.

  • @godsonggm3186
    @godsonggm3186 Рік тому

    I was waiting for your new video. My writing these days has gone from bad to worse.

  • @Topcatyo.
    @Topcatyo. Рік тому

    Absolutely great video, a very solid explanation of some very important things worth considering when writing a story.

  • @diango73
    @diango73 10 місяців тому

    Thx for all the videos you make and made they helped me a lot! I also love your positive attitude. That sometimes helps me after a hard day at work!

  • @IvanBraginX
    @IvanBraginX Рік тому

    Great explanation!
    I've always found motivation part easy, but struggled with making up clear external goal. After watching the video and reflecting over how the goals look like in some of my latest reads, I was able to think of a few possible goals for my current project's mc.
    Thank you!

  • @craigstevenson4208
    @craigstevenson4208 2 місяці тому

    Your videos are tremendously helpful! New to creative writing but loving it. Have a question. What is your opinion of Save the Cat formula. Am writing with a flat arc main charachter and that formula doesnt seem to accommodate such an arc. Would truly appreciate your comments.

  • @zapp770
    @zapp770 7 місяців тому

    Great video. When I came across the belief centered model as supposed to the lie to truth model I imeadiatly new that it was better, The seperation between goal and motivation just clicked the final piece into place for me. That being said I think ill be using the term desire instead of motivation, as it is not as easy to confuse it with the goal.

  • @roberto987
    @roberto987 Рік тому

    Master is back 🤟🏼

  • @jessicachipps2159
    @jessicachipps2159 Рік тому

    This video was very helpful! I had to set my book aside and move on to another project because I did not have these points clear. I'm going to have to watch this a couple more times, but it's really made me realize why my story was falling flat.
    Yes on the writing it down to problem solve.

    • @EllenBrock
      @EllenBrock  Рік тому +1

      I hope when you go back to that project you set aside, everything will feel a bit clearer!

  • @wiggleworm5423
    @wiggleworm5423 3 місяці тому

    5:20 I've had a really hard time with the motivation. So recently I found out that I should organize it better. The character's internal and external conflicts and desires.
    Example: Internal desire love. Lie: I'm unlovable. Fear: Rejection.
    External: Motivation: Find the love of their life. Conflict: People think she's ugly so how could she date? Goal: Always have makeup on. Some sort Some sort of reason why she couldn't decide to just wear makeup in the first place would be interesting. Like Maybe she has severe acne and her parents cannot afford expensive skin care, extra.

  • @anthonywritesfantasy
    @anthonywritesfantasy Рік тому

    I love the idea that the lesson has to go against the belief. Very practical, especially in NaNoWriMo!

  • @Buffal0K
    @Buffal0K Рік тому

    If i could like this video twice, I would! So precise, so useful

  • @griannaashwood6394
    @griannaashwood6394 9 місяців тому

    Great breakdown and explanation. Well done!

  • @judybackhouse
    @judybackhouse 2 місяці тому

    Hi Ellen. Thanks for all the useful content. I’m writing my first novel and I have four main characters. Do they all need an arc, or can the story be driven by just one or two arcs?

  • @kater.3605
    @kater.3605 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! So timely... i just today realized i need to understand this for my Nano story. #synchronicity Questions: do this for each character? Also, what is THEME & where does it fit with all this? Thank you so much!

  • @Kikakowia
    @Kikakowia Рік тому

    Watching this for the third time in two days while I try to hammer my brain into sorting these things out for my MC. 😅

  • @johnphares3358
    @johnphares3358 8 місяців тому

    Great break down on this subject. 👏

  • @r.brooks5287
    @r.brooks5287 Рік тому

    Great vid. Can you cover how much arc to put in a long, episodic, series in book one in your next vid on arcs, please. I find your attention to detail very helpful. I have a full arc for book one and an arc for the series but unsure if I have two arcs for book one as he has a positive arc and a flat arc as he fails to change enough yet in the arc for the series.

  • @Rusemofarms
    @Rusemofarms 11 місяців тому

    It's been a very useful video. I really have learnt a lot❤

  • @IreneKiew
    @IreneKiew Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much, Ellen, this was very helpful! For stories with two main characters, how would one go about weaving two character arcs together? Do you have any advice for this?
    I've noticed that in romance novels, often authors focus only on one character's arc, while the other (the love interest) just acts as a foil and has no discernible arc of their own. Like if the male character has a lot of trauma to overcome and is acting out because of that, the female character tends to be almost saintly and just supports him through his personal journey. But those kinds of romances are very unsatisfying to me personally because one of the characters doesn't feel like a real person.

  • @totadol
    @totadol 11 місяців тому

    So much gems in this video 🙏🏼

  • @rosalindmorley
    @rosalindmorley 11 місяців тому

    This video was already great and then you started talking about shrek….subscribed!

  • @worldriderbharadwaj
    @worldriderbharadwaj 11 місяців тому

    Thanks a lot for the wonderful advice. Keep doing it.

    • @EllenBrock
      @EllenBrock  10 місяців тому

      Sorry I didn't see this sooner! Thank you so much for your support!

  • @brasdorgal
    @brasdorgal 9 місяців тому

    Great video! I would love to hear more about character arc ❤

  • @salamand3r__
    @salamand3r__ Рік тому

    Thank you so much for your content. The Shrek example is perfect ❤

  • @HIMMBelljuvo
    @HIMMBelljuvo 9 місяців тому

    This was extremely helpful. Thank you so much

  • @mightandmercy
    @mightandmercy Рік тому

    Insightful video - concept well explained and actionable. thanks

  • @weloopal2547
    @weloopal2547 7 місяців тому

    My favorite + - + is definitly Wei Wuxian's character arch in The Untamed/Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu. It was my first time realizing that a character doesn't have to change who they were as a person for a story to be good. And he does change but at his core he is the same person. Plus he is just a ton of fun haha

  • @ichbifeuertrunk
    @ichbifeuertrunk Рік тому +2

    Awesome! 👏👏👏

  • @anngrace5050
    @anngrace5050 Рік тому

    Thank you for this. Awesome video!

  • @sondersighs
    @sondersighs 10 місяців тому

    Hello, this has been wonderful in terms of actually understanding character arcs instead of finding videos that talk more or just about character development, so thank you! Would it be possible for you to make a vid to cover the topic of writing for a game, and the differences you see between novels and game writing in storytelling? If not no worries, but I believe I would love to hear your take on it. Have a great day!

  • @Amelijap
    @Amelijap 11 місяців тому

    HI Ellen, could you please make a video on the different genres? I am soo incredibly confused over what literary ficton, adult fiction, fiction and commercial fiction are. As a YA/NA writer can I submit to those genres?