Edit - Video was blocked initially, but Hasbro is now monetizing it, so it should stay up. See, I remembered to react! Season 8 next weekend, oh boy. The way my schedule's been, my reactions to the episodes may end up also limiting the vectors, apologies in advance. I was hoping to have some more recordings on hand, but I was sick for nearly a week recently, so I don't know what else is on the docket at the moment.
4:10 Everyone remember in the first movie when Twilight was at the computer and said, "Maybe this place DOES have magic!!"? Well, that's why she said that. The tech here really IS magical.
40:58 okay. Wallflower's intentions here are honestly evil, even if she doesn't realize it. If you take all the memories of someone's high school years, they essentially become middle or elementary school kids in teenagers bodies. And Twi wasn't even AT Canterlot until her high school years, so how terrifying would that be for her? Not only would they all only remember mere moments after finishing their previous school level, but area, company, physical age, they'd have no idea what happened. 42:00 exactly. Completely proves my previous point. Erasing Sunset's memories of high school has left her a four years younger pony suddenly finding herself in another world as a whole different species and no idea how she got there or why she's not a pony anymore. 43:43 and THAT right there is why I don't fully forgive Wallflower Blush's actions. She erased everyone's good memories of Sunset to get back at Sunset for not knowing her... when her not noticing her was because Wallflower kept erasing Sunset's memories of her every time they interacted. She punished Sunset for forgetting about her... because she was making Sunset forget about her. -_- do I even have to explain why that's so stupid?
THANK YOU! Finally someone else that doesn't just fawn over how sad it must be for Wallflower and how she's a poor innocent little cinnamon roll who just needed the mean old Sunset to stop ignoring her. This was 100% her own damn fault, and Sunset didn't do a single thing wrong. I also don't care for the way the morale is presented. While yes, there is a difference between not being an asshole, and being nice/kind, that doesn't apply here. The ONE time Sunset directly interacted with Wallflower before all this, she was kind, polite, supportive, the only thing 'wrong' she did was not remembering Wallflower... because Wallflower had been making sure no one remembered her ever. Yeah turning out the lights was a dick move, but even then, it makes no sense Sunset would do that.... unless Wallflower went over and wiped that little exchange from her memory. Just like that is the only reason Sunset wouldn't know Wallflower had been working on to committee the whole time. The morale is pretty much saying 'You have to go out of your way to be friends with every single being in existence, otherwise you're an asshole." Wallflower is the first 'redeemable' villain who I have zero sympathy for at all. This was all her own damn fault, and she was just throwing a tantrum and mind raping the entire school because Senpai woudn't notice her. And her 'plan' was just...... what? EQG 1 Sunset's plan was stupid, but it was at least a plan. Raise an army enslaved to her will to invade Equestria with. Choosing an army of teenagers and having to commence said invasion through a narrow choke point with all of the strongest beings in Equestria on the other side already meant it was doomed to fail, but it was at least a plan. This was....... nothing that made even twisted, illogical sense. And when you make EQG 1 Sunset look good in comparison, you done did something wrong.
No, no body but Wallflower was 'at fault' for anything. How is Wallflower entitled to having Sunset be her friend? How is Wallflower entitled to ANYTHING from anyone? She isn't. No one was deliberately shunning her, just not noticing her. Which yes, sucks, but you lose any sympathy for that the moment you go for mind rape, that serve no purpose but to be an asshole. What did Sunset actually do? Not spend time with Wallflower? So, No matter what Sunset is an asshole since it is physically impossible for her to spend equal time with every single person in existence. If not, then what is the line? What makes Wallflower special that means she and sh alone is entitled to this beyond the other 7 billion people on the planet Sunset also doesn't know or spend time with? So please, what, exactly, did Sunset do that was soooo horrible that this is in anyway her fault that does not still apply to 7 billion others she is doing the exact same thing to still? Not noticing someone that stays in the background is not anyone's fault. It sucks, but it is not something anyone did 'wrong'. Doubly so when they literarlly CANNOT do so, since everytime anyone interacts with Wallflower, she just erases their memory of it, and then gets bitchy that people don't remember her. There is no way Sunset wouldn't know who was and was not on the year book committee, baring Wallflower having erased her memory of that, hence what is being taken to be a scene showing what a poor, innocent waifu that mean old Sunset just doesn't care about wallflower is instead, just showing how this is all Wallflowers own damn fault. The one time she interacted with Wallflower,she was, kind, polite, open, even directly asking Wallflower if she wanted to join their committee, I.E. spend time with them. Yes, she was being soooooooooo horrible and totally treating Wallflower badly by not remembering the girl, that is going around erasing everyone's memories of her. So again, what did ANYONE do 'wrong' besides the girl mind raping an entire school just because Senpai won't notice her and whenever Senpai DOES notice her, she just mind rapes away those memories?
7Seraphem7 Sunset was forgetting and not noticing Wallflower repeatedly over the years because she was simply forgetting her, not because of the stone. The entire point of her frustration was that she was so forgettable, and that's NOT due to the stone. Before this incident, Wallflower was erasing minor mid-conversation events, not whole conversations where she was talking to people. We literally saw Sunset forget she was in the room at the beginning, with no magic rock use. That's a part of Wallflower, not a result of her erasing memories.
We see no evidence provided of anyone forgetting Wallflower prior to her going around wiping away memories of herself. Overlooking and ignoring her, yes, forgetting, no. Not to the extent shown afterwards. Next, she outright said she wiped away 'literally any public speaking'. If you wipe out any memory of anytime you did anything that might get you noticed, like every time you said hello to someone or spoke up where anyone else could here you, you don't then get to claim someone else is a bitch because they don't remember you. How else would Sunset not know Wallflower was on the yearbook staff? There is no way, at all, she is that incompetent as to not know who is working on her team. That is just not plausible in anyway. There are only two options. Sunset is utterly incompetent to not know who is actually working on the yearbook, or Wallflower has been wiping out any memory Sunset has of her. Sunset has not been shown to be an idiot since EQG 1 ended, and Wallflower has outright said she was doing just that. So again, this is all her fault for being an idiot, and then throwing a hissy fit that Senpai wouldn't notice her, after wiping out every memory of anytime she did. The ONE time we actually see them interact, Sunset is kind, supportive, open, and outright invites her to join a group with her. And yet, somehow she's at fault for having her memory erased and so forgetting someone... how? Oh and the light, that is so beyond stupid to happen, and Wallflower is so gun ho on wiping memories away, it would not surprse me and fit perfectly with having done just that the moment she was off screen after talking to Sunset.
7Seraphem7 The entire point of the moral was that Sunset (and everyone else) was ignoring and not paying attention to her, and has been for YEARs, and Wallflower was very heavily implied to only have gotten the stone fairly recently. Wiping away communication mistakes or public speaking (speaking in public is not the same as public speaking, btw) is NOT anything like wiping while conversations every. single. time. they talk to her, AND is literslly counterproductice to her entire goal. There are many examples from the short itself of people not noticing or forgetting her without ANY interference from the rock. Heck, even when Wallflower DID wipe away an entire meeting and conversation, she still didn't wipe out Sunset's knowledge of her name (and yet Trixie still forgot of her own accord). Wallflower's ENTIRE character is that she's so unremarkable and forgettable that no-one remembers her. The point of the first memories of hers' that Sunset saw is that no-one ever notices her, ever. It doesn't matter if you think it's impossible that Sunset wouldn't know everyone on her staff, because that's what happened, and stuff like that is the whole reason for Wallflower's complex (which she got before she got the stone). It's a carrtoon, and some character traits are going to be exaggerated to beyond realistic levels (like her forgettableness), but that doesn't mean they're not real and canon parts of her character. Wallflower is completely at fault for what she did to Sunset, but she is not the cause of her complex.
This was amazing! My favorite Equestria Girls short/special what have you. So many great comedic moments, Wallflower was great, seeing Sunset sacrifice her memories for the human six, so emotional! Seeing Twilight being adorkable is just always awesome. Just had a lot of fun with this.
22:42 and that's the last line Cathy Wesluck has in this special... unless she had some lines that were cut that will be in the extended version. 23:49 exactly. I mean, NONE of them have checked their phones Galleries and noticed pictures or videos of them and Sunset as friends even once? Seriously? What teenager these days doesn't check their phone galleries at least once everyday? 27:59 Sunset, WHY WOULD YOU NOT HAVE YOUR JOURNAL WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES, ESPECIALLY WHEN TWILIGHT TOLD YOU SHE'D GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU IF SHE FOUND SOMETHING?! 33:30 okay. Right here is a problem I have with the memory wipe. Opal clearly isn't having her good memories of Sunset erased, so chances are Spike should still have his memories too, as it seems the memory wipe was only aimed at humans. And no, him being able to talk doesn't change that. He's Twi's pet, just like Opal's Rarity's. If Opal remembers Sunset, so should Spike. So, my problem is, why didn't he say anything about it when the rest of the girls acted like they don't have good memories of Sunset? Surely he was confused and confronted them about it?
Maybe it erased memories from everyone sunset considered a friend? Like, Opal probably hisses at her and scratches her. But, with spike, she can literally talk to him.
Wasn’t the scene with Sunset losing her memories horrifying? I was traumatized! Everyone in the scene was gawking in horror! Just imagine pieces of your brain being ripped out of your skull a string at a time, then you wake up not even remembering anyone around you or the place your in at all. Feeling so alone after such a traumatizing experience could really mess a girl up.
really in that scene I was shaking and my heart broke. I never imagined this, plus seeing Sunset all scared and confused after having her memories ripped away (even from getting there and her human life), it really felt painful and I feel how completely frightened and alone Sunset must have felt waking up out of nowhere in an unknown world with no memory of what happened to her. I would really be in panic crying and screaming helplessly for help too.
I know you said Wallflower is a cardboard cut-out, but I have a list of some personality traits she has. 1) Insecure 2) Introverted 3) Dislikes flashiness 4) Loves plants and gardening 5) Favourite colour is tan 6) Desires attention
39:00 - PUT! THE CANDLE! BACK! 42:52 - LIGHT 'ER UP LADIES! I loved it. ^_^ I like the motivation for Wallflower - she got so used to wiping her own memories (and likely others) that she lost sight of the WRONGness of it.
I love that the trigger that sent Wallflower into regretting what she did was seeing Sunset's existential crisis after her memory was erased. Her desperately crying out "Princess Celestia" really shook Wallflower and made her realize what she had done
I understand how WallFlower feels about being lonely and “invisible.” But... it’s basically her own fault. Because the girl LITERALLY admits to using the stone to rewind time whenever she makes a fuck up. And that’s okay.. until you realize it’s HER FAULT that EVERYONE forgets who the hell she is. If she hadn’t used that stone to fix those fuck ups she’d be remembered. Yah ik she’s only a plot character in dis movie to be a villain but... it’s her OWN fault. Like I love where Hasbro was going with this to holds us over until Season 8... buuuttt... yeah bad plot line with WallFlower. Now don’t get me wrong I love the movie and I love WallFlower she’s my new favorite next to FlutterShy but... yeah..
thtonegirl XD plus sometimes you have make a little effort to be noticed. She never tried to get noticed. She expects people to notice her when she never tries to make any friends. I don't like her. Sunset may have been bad once but she changed and hurting her for not noticing you is mean. Instead taking memories you could have talked to her about how she made you feel when she didn't notice you.
That’s wierd I only discovered The upload now even though is said three days ago guess hasbro is back at it again thx for staying persistent with this sorry you have to deal with this Kind of stuff Also Sunsets Reunion with Celestia was everything I didn’t know I needed 😭😭
As for the "How does it lock from both sides? question you had several times in this special. 1. In some public buildings, they do have interior doors that lock from both sides. Not to actually secure the door from the inside, but to prevent the public from locking the door while they're inside. For instance, in my lock library, there are some public rest rooms that require a key to lock from both sides. They use that lock when cleaning the rest room to prevent people from entering. And since it requires a key on the inside, it's not possible for anyone in the general public to lock the rest room and prevent anyone else from using the rest room at the same time. 2. It was also a nicely humorous issue in the comic, causing Trixie to have issues with her smoke disappearance.
In this EG special, Sunset Shimmer finally conquers the remaining demons of her past. Get it? Because she turned into Sunset She-Demon in the first EG Movie
The red herring - it was still within Trixie's character to act and say that way, so I look at it as an forgivable sin. The points that make me like this one the best - Fluttwrshy in her swimsuit - The dress she had on the last couple of specials never seemed right. More of a mumu than a dress. The body suit (I'm assuming it isn't a wet suit) reminds me of the ones the SeaWorld staff wear. Very appropriate. Pony Sunset; always a plus. Celestia is best troll. BTW, that scene is close enough to the theme of my fanfic, I may incorperate it. Twilght (not scitwi) - Tara is on point with her VA. Even as a princess, seeing Twilight geek out over learning something new is wonderful. And, I love Sunset's reactions, like closing Twilight's mounth when Twilight say the restricted section. I liked it about as much as when she went rapid fire at the end of "A Royal Problem". The stakes for Sunset had gavity. She is her own person, but her friendships are wht she values most. Losing them may have caused her to retreat and become a recluse. Trixie - the 3rd and 4th acts - when she reached out to Sunset, she showed so much vulnerability that I actually started liking her as a character, and not just liking her for her interactions with Starlight. I also like that she was the moral of the special (getting Sunset to realize it takes more than just not being mean). I liked this way more than reformes Juniper Montage, or even Wallflower Blush. Some of the plot conveniences would defy Pinkie Pie logic, but it really didn't take away my enjoyment of the special. I don't think it was lazy writing, but more of editing, and not having time to flush out the logistics. There was one scene the library where Celestia and Sunset find the mechanical index was broken (I watched the special through the discovery family go app, ans it had the extra bit in it). It didn't change anything (flow or context), by cutting it, so they did. If this is the direction EQG is going, I can definitely get behind it.
I quite enjoyed this special. I think it might actually be my favourite one so far. Sunset reuniting with Celestia, Twilight hyperventilating over the restricted section and the secret Harry Potter dungeon, Wallflower's song, the characters acknowledging the songs, Pinkie interrupting Twilight's friendship speech, Sunset almost swearing, and the new SunTrix and Sunflower ships were the big highlights for me. Oh, and seeing the Mane 7 in swimsuits ;) Just a few more days and season 8 is here. And a day before that is my birthday, so that will be quite the present. Anyways, glad to see your reaction. Until next time, I'm signing off! *
Wallflower: NOTICE ME SUNSET~SENPAI!!!!! ON MY OWN PRETENDING SHES BESIDE ME ALL ALONE I WALK WITH HER TILL MORNING WITHOUT HER I FEEL HER ARMS AROUND ME AND WHEN I LOOSE MY WAY I CLOSE MY EYES AND SHE HAS FOUND ME IN THE RAIN THE PAVEMENT SHINES LIKE SILVER ALL THE LIGHTS ARE MISTY IN THE RIVER IN THE DARKNESS THE TREES ARE FULL OF STARLIGHT AND ALL I SEE IS HER AND ME FOREVER AND FOREVER AND I KNOW ITS ONLY IN MY MIND THAT IM TALKING TO MYSELF AND NOT TO HER AND ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT SHE IS BLIND STILL I SAY THERES A WAY FOR US I LOVE HER BUT WHEN THE NIGHT IS OVER SHE IS GONE THE RIVERS JUST A RIVER WITHOUT HER THE WORLD AROUND ME CHANGES THE TREES ARE BARE AND EVERYWHERE THE STREETS ARE FULL OF STRANGERS I LOVE HER BUT EVERY DAI IM LEARNING ALL MY LIFE IVE ONLY BEEN PRETENDING WITHOUT ME HER WORLD WILL GO ON TURNING A WORLD THATS FULL OF HAPPINESS THAT I HAVE NEVER KNOWN I LOVE HER I LOVE HER I LOVE HER BUT ONLY ON MY OWN Conclusion: Wallflower is a Yandre~Éponine and Sunset is a Marius~Senpai
Am I the only one who noticed that Sci-Twi is a freaking genius I mean she has invented AI a lot of times and that's a lot especially since she is in still high school. P.S. Are you going to play the full version of "Them's Fightin' Herds" when it comes out
26:30 Well, the only other one who might've believed you would be Flash Sentry. Granted, he's no "Sunburst", but he was your former boyfriend and probably knew you better than anyone else. Bad as well as good. But, unfortunately he's out of town. And Trixie REALLY needs a "Sunset" in her life, since her pony version already has a "Starlight".
Finally got down to watching this. One I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes there are probably a ton of photos with Sunset and the Humane 6. Also the doors at my high school lock from both sides. I will say Wallflower's motivation was pretty weak and self defeating. She was mad that Sunset never cared to acknowledge her but even she realizes she erased everyone's memory of her. So not exactly someone I can like as a villain but as a character I liked her. I'm just sad the writers are probably gonna forget her
Let's see. Here are all of the villeins from Mlp EG Mlp EG: Sunset shimmer Rainbow rocks: The siren's Friendship games: Twilight Legend of ever free: Gloriosa daisy. Forgotten friendship: Wallflower blush
I feel like the conflict would have been resolved much easier if pony twilight told her human friends that sunset shimmer was their friends Orlando sunset shimmer can write two pony twilight and show her friends the response while it's being written back
I honestly think sunset brought this upon herself like how would you feel if you went to school with someone for years and they don’t even notice you. Like how she forgot wall flower was in that room and turned of the light on her after talking to her like 30 seconds earlier . This is just my option no hate pls
29:28 "Was (Maud) ever in the school in the previous major specials?" The only previous time I remember seeing EqG Maud (outside of shorts) was in Pinkie's house during the Rainbow Rocks sleepover.
She's also in the audience during the Rainbow Rocks finale, along whit the CMC. It's right before Trixie falls over the wall then says "Trixie's o-kay!"
Sunset: Am I... Nice? Twilight:Of course you're nice! What's going on? Later... Trixie: Maybe... You have to be nice? Me: What the haywire is going on?
I didn’t even realize that this was the same size as a full length EQG movie. I loved Twilight’s little excited moment in the restricted part of the library
I love how Ashleigh Ball agrees with Ashleigh Ball on stuff 😅 Also love the scene where Andrea hides behind Ashleigh and Andrea scowls at Rebecca, whilst standing next to Ashleigh, who’s also scowling... at Rebecca.. 😅 (I love the duplicants in VA’s)
I kinda wish there were consequences for in the end. Not that I'm not happy everyone got their memories back, but it would have been really cool to see sunset having to relearn how to get around in the humanish world
The thing that gets me is that the special seemed to be trying to make a point that Sunset was at least somewhat "in the wrong" for not treating Wallflower better, but that makes things kind of problematic. First of all, sure, Sunset not remembering Wallflower at all was definitely rude, but it's clear they were never "friends". Does that mean Sunset had an obligation of sorts to become Wallflower's friend if she wanted to call herself a "good friend"? In that case, is she obligated to become everyone's friend at Canterlot High School? Second, depending on the answer to that, it makes things more problematic for the resolution: - If Sunset herself had an obligation to be Wallflower's friend, then does that mean she, in some way, deserved what happened to her? - If Sunset didn't have an obligation to be Wallflower's friend, should we not feel any sympathy at all for a character who performed an act of jealous cruelty and conclude, perhaps, she didn't deserve to have friends? But other than that, I liked this one a lot. Very drama-based as opposed to "zap the magical villain".
Wallflower's actions need to be explored a bit... I understand being ignored in school, but is she invisible at home too? If her parents are away a lot, leaving her with nothing but plants for company, that would explain so much... plus, it would be a decent contrast to Fluttershy, who is the way she is because her parents were pushovers who spoiled their kids, especially her brother Z.B., just because they don't like seeing the younger generation unhappy. Wallflower needs a sequel exploring her family life or lack-there-of, for a special like that would be necessary to reveal the realities of parental neglect... that kids that feel forgotten by their families don't know if the world will remember them or not.
That intro song is way too close to one of a slice of life anime Now that I think about it this show does go all out anime sometimes... huh, guess I didn't realize that until now :/ accept for the seaon 4 finale of cause, I noticed that at least
I'm sad that I missed this by 2 days I could've sworn I had notifications on for you... at least I get to watch it :D
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something you said made me think of a Fimfiction story where a crazy pony wrote a book about lots of forbidden magical devices, and published it openly! Celestia obtained and destroyed as many copies as she could, but kept one locked up.
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Edit - Video was blocked initially, but Hasbro is now monetizing it, so it should stay up.
See, I remembered to react!
Season 8 next weekend, oh boy. The way my schedule's been, my reactions to the episodes may end up also limiting the vectors, apologies in advance. I was hoping to have some more recordings on hand, but I was sick for nearly a week recently, so I don't know what else is on the docket at the moment.
Blank Slate yaya!~ it’s back on!~
Everyone, download this just in case it gets blocked again!
Also, Blank Check, have you tried Bitchute like Raritydash has?
Let me guass Retarded people at youtube blocked it
You are such a great UA-camr!! I always look forward to ur videos!!😜
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"Dear Princess Twilight, this is gonna sound crazy but, are we friends, am I...nice?"
"New book, who dis?"
PotterBrony82 OMG... that was the funniest thing I ever heard from you.... and your videos are pretty funny...
XD
That was cold, and yet i still laughed at it x'D
Lol, reminds me of impractical jokers
XD
"This 'Faculty Lot' you speak of sounds like a place of great power"
- Princess Luna 2018
Trust me
(When i told her what it actually was she laughed)
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No, no, THIS CAN’T BE!
Twilight's nerdout at the Library is the best version of Twilight.
Indeed
You betcha guys!
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Everyone remember in the first movie when Twilight was at the computer and said, "Maybe this place DOES have magic!!"? Well, that's why she said that. The tech here really IS magical.
40:58 okay. Wallflower's intentions here are honestly evil, even if she doesn't realize it.
If you take all the memories of someone's high school years, they essentially become middle or elementary school kids in teenagers bodies. And Twi wasn't even AT Canterlot until her high school years, so how terrifying would that be for her?
Not only would they all only remember mere moments after finishing their previous school level, but area, company, physical age, they'd have no idea what happened.
42:00 exactly. Completely proves my previous point. Erasing Sunset's memories of high school has left her a four years younger pony suddenly finding herself in another world as a whole different species and no idea how she got there or why she's not a pony anymore.
43:43 and THAT right there is why I don't fully forgive Wallflower Blush's actions. She erased everyone's good memories of Sunset to get back at Sunset for not knowing her... when her not noticing her was because Wallflower kept erasing Sunset's memories of her every time they interacted.
She punished Sunset for forgetting about her... because she was making Sunset forget about her.
-_- do I even have to explain why that's so stupid?
THANK YOU! Finally someone else that doesn't just fawn over how sad it must be for Wallflower and how she's a poor innocent little cinnamon roll who just needed the mean old Sunset to stop ignoring her.
This was 100% her own damn fault, and Sunset didn't do a single thing wrong. I also don't care for the way the morale is presented. While yes, there is a difference between not being an asshole, and being nice/kind, that doesn't apply here. The ONE time Sunset directly interacted with Wallflower before all this, she was kind, polite, supportive, the only thing 'wrong' she did was not remembering Wallflower... because Wallflower had been making sure no one remembered her ever. Yeah turning out the lights was a dick move, but even then, it makes no sense Sunset would do that.... unless Wallflower went over and wiped that little exchange from her memory. Just like that is the only reason Sunset wouldn't know Wallflower had been working on to committee the whole time. The morale is pretty much saying 'You have to go out of your way to be friends with every single being in existence, otherwise you're an asshole."
Wallflower is the first 'redeemable' villain who I have zero sympathy for at all. This was all her own damn fault, and she was just throwing a tantrum and mind raping the entire school because Senpai woudn't notice her. And her 'plan' was just...... what? EQG 1 Sunset's plan was stupid, but it was at least a plan. Raise an army enslaved to her will to invade Equestria with. Choosing an army of teenagers and having to commence said invasion through a narrow choke point with all of the strongest beings in Equestria on the other side already meant it was doomed to fail, but it was at least a plan. This was....... nothing that made even twisted, illogical sense. And when you make EQG 1 Sunset look good in comparison, you done did something wrong.
No, no body but Wallflower was 'at fault' for anything. How is Wallflower entitled to having Sunset be her friend? How is Wallflower entitled to ANYTHING from anyone? She isn't. No one was deliberately shunning her, just not noticing her. Which yes, sucks, but you lose any sympathy for that the moment you go for mind rape, that serve no purpose but to be an asshole.
What did Sunset actually do? Not spend time with Wallflower? So, No matter what Sunset is an asshole since it is physically impossible for her to spend equal time with every single person in existence. If not, then what is the line? What makes Wallflower special that means she and sh alone is entitled to this beyond the other 7 billion people on the planet Sunset also doesn't know or spend time with?
So please, what, exactly, did Sunset do that was soooo horrible that this is in anyway her fault that does not still apply to 7 billion others she is doing the exact same thing to still? Not noticing someone that stays in the background is not anyone's fault. It sucks, but it is not something anyone did 'wrong'. Doubly so when they literarlly CANNOT do so, since everytime anyone interacts with Wallflower, she just erases their memory of it, and then gets bitchy that people don't remember her.
There is no way Sunset wouldn't know who was and was not on the year book committee, baring Wallflower having erased her memory of that, hence what is being taken to be a scene showing what a poor, innocent waifu that mean old Sunset just doesn't care about wallflower is instead, just showing how this is all Wallflowers own damn fault. The one time she interacted with Wallflower,she was, kind, polite, open, even directly asking Wallflower if she wanted to join their committee, I.E. spend time with them. Yes, she was being soooooooooo horrible and totally treating Wallflower badly by not remembering the girl, that is going around erasing everyone's memories of her.
So again, what did ANYONE do 'wrong' besides the girl mind raping an entire school just because Senpai won't notice her and whenever Senpai DOES notice her, she just mind rapes away those memories?
7Seraphem7
Sunset was forgetting and not noticing Wallflower repeatedly over the years because she was simply forgetting her, not because of the stone. The entire point of her frustration was that she was so forgettable, and that's NOT due to the stone. Before this incident, Wallflower was erasing minor mid-conversation events, not whole conversations where she was talking to people.
We literally saw Sunset forget she was in the room at the beginning, with no magic rock use. That's a part of Wallflower, not a result of her erasing memories.
We see no evidence provided of anyone forgetting Wallflower prior to her going around wiping away memories of herself. Overlooking and ignoring her, yes, forgetting, no. Not to the extent shown afterwards.
Next, she outright said she wiped away 'literally any public speaking'. If you wipe out any memory of anytime you did anything that might get you noticed, like every time you said hello to someone or spoke up where anyone else could here you, you don't then get to claim someone else is a bitch because they don't remember you.
How else would Sunset not know Wallflower was on the yearbook staff? There is no way, at all, she is that incompetent as to not know who is working on her team. That is just not plausible in anyway. There are only two options. Sunset is utterly incompetent to not know who is actually working on the yearbook, or Wallflower has been wiping out any memory Sunset has of her. Sunset has not been shown to be an idiot since EQG 1 ended, and Wallflower has outright said she was doing just that.
So again, this is all her fault for being an idiot, and then throwing a hissy fit that Senpai wouldn't notice her, after wiping out every memory of anytime she did.
The ONE time we actually see them interact, Sunset is kind, supportive, open, and outright invites her to join a group with her. And yet, somehow she's at fault for having her memory erased and so forgetting someone... how?
Oh and the light, that is so beyond stupid to happen, and Wallflower is so gun ho on wiping memories away, it would not surprse me and fit perfectly with having done just that the moment she was off screen after talking to Sunset.
7Seraphem7
The entire point of the moral was that Sunset (and everyone else) was ignoring and not paying attention to her, and has been for YEARs, and Wallflower was very heavily implied to only have gotten the stone fairly recently. Wiping away communication mistakes or public speaking (speaking in public is not the same as public speaking, btw) is NOT anything like wiping while conversations every. single. time. they talk to her, AND is literslly counterproductice to her entire goal. There are many examples from the short itself of people not noticing or forgetting her without ANY interference from the rock. Heck, even when Wallflower DID wipe away an entire meeting and conversation, she still didn't wipe out Sunset's knowledge of her name (and yet Trixie still forgot of her own accord).
Wallflower's ENTIRE character is that she's so unremarkable and forgettable that no-one remembers her. The point of the first memories of hers' that Sunset saw is that no-one ever notices her, ever.
It doesn't matter if you think it's impossible that Sunset wouldn't know everyone on her staff, because that's what happened, and stuff like that is the whole reason for Wallflower's complex (which she got before she got the stone). It's a carrtoon, and some character traits are going to be exaggerated to beyond realistic levels (like her forgettableness), but that doesn't mean they're not real and canon parts of her character.
Wallflower is completely at fault for what she did to Sunset, but she is not the cause of her complex.
The phrase you were looking for is "Fear leads to anger, Anger leads to hate, Hate leads to suffering."
William Beasley Those are absolutes and only Sith deal in absolut-... welp I’m a Sith now
good. the Sith are far superior to the arrogant, hypocritical Jedi
Kito Brown LET THE GATE FLOW THROUGH YOU
I really loved how pinky just jumps in and stops twilight from saying the cheesy friendship is magic line
I like how Princess Twilight was losing her mind when it came to the restricted section of the library.
OMIGOSHOMIGOSHOMIGOSHOMIGOSHOMIGOSHOMIGOSH
"Who thought that was a good musical transition?"
*Raises hand*
*raising hand*
*Raises hand*
*Raises hand*
Jeyonerl Jevarus *raises hand little bit*
Ekisde :v
22:39 “Fear is the path to the dark side…fear leads to anger…anger leads to hate…hate leads to suffering.”
Sunset: So, who's ready to take a best friends picture?
Me: And what is wrong with THIS picture?
7:26 "I'm so angry I will say your full name" lol
OMG who else noticed at 31:02 Sunset pressed a button on the drone to record the video!?
This was amazing! My favorite Equestria Girls short/special what have you. So many great comedic moments, Wallflower was great, seeing Sunset sacrifice her memories for the human six, so emotional! Seeing Twilight being adorkable is just always awesome. Just had a lot of fun with this.
22:42 and that's the last line Cathy Wesluck has in this special... unless she had some lines that were cut that will be in the extended version.
23:49 exactly. I mean, NONE of them have checked their phones Galleries and noticed pictures or videos of them and Sunset as friends even once? Seriously? What teenager these days doesn't check their phone galleries at least once everyday?
27:59 Sunset, WHY WOULD YOU NOT HAVE YOUR JOURNAL WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES, ESPECIALLY WHEN TWILIGHT TOLD YOU SHE'D GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU IF SHE FOUND SOMETHING?!
33:30 okay. Right here is a problem I have with the memory wipe. Opal clearly isn't having her good memories of Sunset erased, so chances are Spike should still have his memories too, as it seems the memory wipe was only aimed at humans. And no, him being able to talk doesn't change that. He's Twi's pet, just like Opal's Rarity's. If Opal remembers Sunset, so should Spike.
So, my problem is, why didn't he say anything about it when the rest of the girls acted like they don't have good memories of Sunset? Surely he was confused and confronted them about it?
Maybe it erased memories from everyone sunset considered a friend? Like, Opal probably hisses at her and scratches her. But, with spike, she can literally talk to him.
@@warriorcatkitty Hissing and scratching are Opals only forms of communication though, so it can be hard to tell. (grin)
Wasn’t the scene with Sunset losing her memories horrifying? I was traumatized! Everyone in the scene was gawking in horror! Just imagine pieces of your brain being ripped out of your skull a string at a time, then you wake up not even remembering anyone around you or the place your in at all. Feeling so alone after such a traumatizing experience could really mess a girl up.
really in that scene I was shaking and my heart broke. I never imagined this, plus seeing Sunset all scared and confused after having her memories ripped away (even from getting there and her human life), it really felt painful and I feel how completely frightened and alone Sunset must have felt waking up out of nowhere in an unknown world with no memory of what happened to her.
I would really be in panic crying and screaming helplessly for help too.
Pony Twilight totally steals the show.
"I've always been good to you library!"
Favorite line.
28:56
Because it's one of the charts where you answer left, right, up, or down, not what letter you see.
I know you said Wallflower is a cardboard cut-out, but I have a list of some personality traits she has.
1) Insecure
2) Introverted
3) Dislikes flashiness
4) Loves plants and gardening
5) Favourite colour is tan
6) Desires attention
Two years late, but also "Is mad no-one remembers her despite apparently a long history of erasing herself from people's minds"
I know many people like her.
7:56 "How many guitars do you need?!"
One for every mood.
“Twilights neck is really long sometimes”
I died XD
39:00 - PUT! THE CANDLE! BACK!
42:52 - LIGHT 'ER UP LADIES! I loved it. ^_^
I like the motivation for Wallflower - she got so used to wiping her own memories (and likely others) that she lost sight of the WRONGness of it.
I love that the trigger that sent Wallflower into regretting what she did was seeing Sunset's existential crisis after her memory was erased. Her desperately crying out "Princess Celestia" really shook Wallflower and made her realize what she had done
15:51 oh my gosh Twilight sparkle was the whole fandom for a split second.
I understand how WallFlower feels about being lonely and “invisible.” But... it’s basically her own fault. Because the girl LITERALLY admits to using the stone to rewind time whenever she makes a fuck up. And that’s okay.. until you realize it’s HER FAULT that EVERYONE forgets who the hell she is. If she hadn’t used that stone to fix those fuck ups she’d be remembered. Yah ik she’s only a plot character in dis movie to be a villain but... it’s her OWN fault. Like I love where Hasbro was going with this to holds us over until Season 8... buuuttt... yeah bad plot line with WallFlower. Now don’t get me wrong I love the movie and I love WallFlower she’s my new favorite next to FlutterShy but... yeah..
thtonegirl XD plus sometimes you have make a little effort to be noticed. She never tried to get noticed. She expects people to notice her when she never tries to make any friends. I don't like her. Sunset may have been bad once but she changed and hurting her for not noticing you is mean. Instead taking memories you could have talked to her about how she made you feel when she didn't notice you.
I think she was just looking for anyone else to blame for her own shortcomings even if it doesn't make sense, kinda like y'know a REAL teenager
You are the second guy I know who pointed out Moondancer in the library.
I really liked this special. Weird that there was no antagonist at all though.
Ummm... Wallflower.
I am 100% certain I've never heard of any character by that name. Is that an OC?
Okay... well played.
LOL XD
Lmao
at 9:13 the beach towels have a slight change of color if you reeeeeealy look close : )
Big reveal, wallflower is actually drax!
17:27
“dont take this away from me!!!”
blank check : wait mustard pony
sunset and me : wait aren't you a ketchup pony?
That’s wierd
I only discovered The upload now even though is said three days ago guess hasbro is back at it again thx for staying persistent with this sorry you have to deal with this Kind of stuff
Also Sunsets Reunion with Celestia was everything I didn’t know I needed 😭😭
So Clover the Clever is canonically a stallion.
SpacialRend7 uh
It's true. Everyone thought Clover was a girl, but this special confirmed Clover is a guy after all these years of not knowing.
hasn't clover appeared in the show
Yes and no. Twilight was playing Clover in season 2 "Hearth's Warming Eve" in a play, so that's probably why we all thought Clover was a girl.
Eh It doesn't make sense to me
Here Clover is a girl name but names work differently in Equestria
Still, it doesn't make sense to me :/
As for the "How does it lock from both sides? question you had several times in this special.
1. In some public buildings, they do have interior doors that lock from both sides. Not to actually secure the door from the inside, but to prevent the public from locking the door while they're inside. For instance, in my lock library, there are some public rest rooms that require a key to lock from both sides. They use that lock when cleaning the rest room to prevent people from entering. And since it requires a key on the inside, it's not possible for anyone in the general public to lock the rest room and prevent anyone else from using the rest room at the same time.
2. It was also a nicely humorous issue in the comic, causing Trixie to have issues with her smoke disappearance.
Sunset: You manipulative...blowhard!!
me: That's MLP cursing for you!!
The
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And
Powerful
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Assistant
Helper
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T.G.A.P.T.P.D.A.H.P
rewatching this thing years later and laughing at 37:15 i had the same reaction as trixie for the song and just skipped lol
Finaly i have been waiting for this reaction Great video keep going your great!
Wallflower has earn the right of being in the Starlight's socially awkward potato group!
THANKYOU!!!! Thanks to this I got to watch all of forgotten friendship!!!! I could never find part 5 when I tried to watch all the episodes!
In this EG special, Sunset Shimmer finally conquers the remaining demons of her past.
Get it? Because she turned into Sunset She-Demon in the first EG Movie
The red herring - it was still within Trixie's character to act and say that way, so I look at it as an forgivable sin.
The points that make me like this one the best -
Fluttwrshy in her swimsuit - The dress she had on the last couple of specials never seemed right. More of a mumu than a dress. The body suit (I'm assuming it isn't a wet suit) reminds me of the ones the SeaWorld staff wear. Very appropriate.
Pony Sunset; always a plus.
Celestia is best troll. BTW, that scene is close enough to the theme of my fanfic, I may incorperate it.
Twilght (not scitwi) - Tara is on point with her VA. Even as a princess, seeing Twilight geek out over learning something new is wonderful. And, I love Sunset's reactions, like closing Twilight's mounth when Twilight say the restricted section. I liked it about as much as when she went rapid fire at the end of "A Royal Problem".
The stakes for Sunset had gavity. She is her own person, but her friendships are wht she values most. Losing them may have caused her to retreat and become a recluse.
Trixie - the 3rd and 4th acts - when she reached out to Sunset, she showed so much vulnerability that I actually started liking her as a character, and not just liking her for her interactions with Starlight. I also like that she was the moral of the special (getting Sunset to realize it takes more than just not being mean). I liked this way more than reformes Juniper Montage, or even Wallflower Blush.
Some of the plot conveniences would defy Pinkie Pie logic, but it really didn't take away my enjoyment of the special. I don't think it was lazy writing, but more of editing, and not having time to flush out the logistics. There was one scene the library where Celestia and Sunset find the mechanical index was broken (I watched the special through the discovery family go app, ans it had the extra bit in it). It didn't change anything (flow or context), by cutting it, so they did.
If this is the direction EQG is going, I can definitely get behind it.
Chris Kelling you said Starlight instead of sunset
Who the hell is juniper
Wait is that the councilor from camp everfree?
You misspelled flush
Frozen Raichu oops. sorry. I'll edit and fix
Frozen Raichu the antagonist from "Movie Magic" and "Mirror Magic"
I quite enjoyed this special. I think it might actually be my favourite one so far. Sunset reuniting with Celestia, Twilight hyperventilating over the restricted section and the secret Harry Potter dungeon, Wallflower's song, the characters acknowledging the songs, Pinkie interrupting Twilight's friendship speech, Sunset almost swearing, and the new SunTrix and Sunflower ships were the big highlights for me. Oh, and seeing the Mane 7 in swimsuits ;)
Just a few more days and season 8 is here. And a day before that is my birthday, so that will be quite the present.
Anyways, glad to see your reaction. Until next time, I'm signing off! *
Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to suffering
If they only knew the power of the DARK SIDE of the force..
Wallflower: NOTICE ME SUNSET~SENPAI!!!!!
ON MY OWN PRETENDING SHES BESIDE ME ALL ALONE I WALK WITH HER TILL MORNING WITHOUT HER I FEEL HER ARMS AROUND ME AND WHEN I LOOSE MY WAY I CLOSE MY EYES AND SHE HAS FOUND ME IN THE RAIN THE PAVEMENT SHINES LIKE SILVER ALL THE LIGHTS ARE MISTY IN THE RIVER IN THE DARKNESS THE TREES ARE FULL OF STARLIGHT AND ALL I SEE IS HER AND ME FOREVER AND FOREVER AND I KNOW ITS ONLY IN MY MIND THAT IM TALKING TO MYSELF AND NOT TO HER AND ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT SHE IS BLIND STILL I SAY THERES A WAY FOR US I LOVE HER BUT WHEN THE NIGHT IS OVER SHE IS GONE THE RIVERS JUST A RIVER WITHOUT HER THE WORLD AROUND ME CHANGES THE TREES ARE BARE AND EVERYWHERE THE STREETS ARE FULL OF STRANGERS I LOVE HER BUT EVERY DAI IM LEARNING ALL MY LIFE IVE ONLY BEEN PRETENDING WITHOUT ME HER WORLD WILL GO ON TURNING A WORLD THATS FULL OF HAPPINESS THAT I HAVE NEVER KNOWN I LOVE HER I LOVE HER I LOVE HER BUT ONLY ON MY OWN
Conclusion: Wallflower is a Yandre~Éponine and Sunset is a Marius~Senpai
Am I the only one who noticed that Sci-Twi is a freaking genius I mean she has invented AI a lot of times and that's a lot especially since she is in still high school.
P.S. Are you going to play the full version of "Them's Fightin' Herds" when it comes out
Some UA-cam Brony has read Background Pony?! That's what brought me into the fandom! No pony else ever mentions it!
late reply, i did an animation based on a reading of that fic. i wanted to reach in and hug Lyra.
@@MLPDethDealr32 Which video?
8:00 "How many guitars do you need?"
It's never enough.
2:00 "oh Oh Oh"
I died laughing at that reaction.
I Actually Loved The Intro ;-;
Why do i relate to her on a spiritual level??
26:30 Well, the only other one who might've believed you would be Flash Sentry. Granted, he's no "Sunburst", but he was your former boyfriend and probably knew you better than anyone else. Bad as well as good.
But, unfortunately he's out of town. And Trixie REALLY needs a "Sunset" in her life, since her pony version already has a "Starlight".
Finally got down to watching this. One I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes there are probably a ton of photos with Sunset and the Humane 6. Also the doors at my high school lock from both sides. I will say Wallflower's motivation was pretty weak and self defeating. She was mad that Sunset never cared to acknowledge her but even she realizes she erased everyone's memory of her. So not exactly someone I can like as a villain but as a character I liked her. I'm just sad the writers are probably gonna forget her
Couple of times in this special it was gonna end with "Dear princess twilight. Today I met someone with a glass jaw, and now a few less teeth."
"how many guitars do you need!"
me - my friend, probably younger that sunset has manged to by all 10 of his guitars, on his own. he still wants more
Honestly, the scene with Sunset regressing to pony-mode was kind of dark.
Pinkie pie: LIGHT HER UP LADIES
Me: *dies of laughter*
Which is ironic because her element is laughter
Oh you know she can show them the whole thing that says best friends for the yearbook in a two-column 3 route Paige set apparently has her name on it
Let's see. Here are all of the villeins from Mlp EG
Mlp EG: Sunset shimmer
Rainbow rocks: The siren's
Friendship games: Twilight
Legend of ever free: Gloriosa daisy.
Forgotten friendship: Wallflower blush
36:56
Blank: Oh, they're using it! I'm a genius!
Me: You're clever
ah yes, we've finally found one of the many infinity stones
you know this would be fixed if twilight just went back to the human world with sunset and told that her friends the truth
Very true. But I think they couldn’t risk Twilight losing her memories as well.
Still wouldn't give back their memories. Part of them are missing, and should be fixed
32:49 "I wish Twilight would touch _my_ shoulder like that."
Among other parts.
calestia: iv missed you
shimmer: ...
calestia: *slaps shimmer* DONT YOU EVER! LEAVE ME AGAIN!
NOW WE NEED A BLANK SLATE EQUESTRIA GIRL
4:16
Ooh!
That’s gonna leave a mark!
I feel like the conflict would have been resolved much easier if pony twilight told her human friends that sunset shimmer was their friends Orlando sunset shimmer can write two pony twilight and show her friends the response while it's being written back
Thank you for this, Blank. I was just watching Markiplier play a game called ContinualLY, which had me almost pulling my hair out from tension/anxiety
I just had the biggest grin on my face for at least 50% of the special
I honestly think sunset brought this upon herself like how would you feel if you went to school with someone for years and they don’t even notice you. Like how she forgot wall flower was in that room and turned of the light on her after talking to her like 30 seconds earlier . This is just my option no hate pls
Totally fair at first I thought sunset was kinda ooc the whole movie but I love the lesson at the end
yay you found the time to do this
glad you liked it
29:28 "Was (Maud) ever in the school in the previous major specials?"
The only previous time I remember seeing EqG Maud (outside of shorts) was in Pinkie's house during the Rainbow Rocks sleepover.
She's also in the audience during the Rainbow Rocks finale, along whit the CMC. It's right before Trixie falls over the wall then says "Trixie's o-kay!"
Sunset: Am I... Nice?
Twilight:Of course you're nice! What's going on?
Later...
Trixie: Maybe... You have to be nice?
Me: What the haywire is going on?
Sunset really did press record. it's very subtle but if you look for it, you will find it
I didn’t even realize that this was the same size as a full length EQG movie. I loved Twilight’s little excited moment in the restricted part of the library
I love how Ashleigh Ball agrees with Ashleigh Ball on stuff 😅 Also love the scene where Andrea hides behind Ashleigh and Andrea scowls at Rebecca, whilst standing next to Ashleigh, who’s also scowling... at Rebecca.. 😅 (I love the duplicants in VA’s)
(21:45) Trollestia!
this joke is 10 years old
Waaaaiiiitttttt... 2 days ago... how could I miss that... noway there must be some bug or some patrons thing
Sorry I didn't read your comment sooo nvm
I kinda wish there were consequences for in the end. Not that I'm not happy everyone got their memories back, but it would have been really cool to see sunset having to relearn how to get around in the humanish world
16:15
XDXDXDXDXDXD
I CRIED
4:07
It's called technology
Keep up with the time blank slate
The thing that gets me is that the special seemed to be trying to make a point that Sunset was at least somewhat "in the wrong" for not treating Wallflower better, but that makes things kind of problematic. First of all, sure, Sunset not remembering Wallflower at all was definitely rude, but it's clear they were never "friends". Does that mean Sunset had an obligation of sorts to become Wallflower's friend if she wanted to call herself a "good friend"? In that case, is she obligated to become everyone's friend at Canterlot High School?
Second, depending on the answer to that, it makes things more problematic for the resolution:
- If Sunset herself had an obligation to be Wallflower's friend, then does that mean she, in some way, deserved what happened to her?
- If Sunset didn't have an obligation to be Wallflower's friend, should we not feel any sympathy at all for a character who performed an act of jealous cruelty and conclude, perhaps, she didn't deserve to have friends?
But other than that, I liked this one a lot. Very drama-based as opposed to "zap the magical villain".
43:09 "Pinkie Pie *really* enjoyed that memory!"
Well now we know at least one of these girls isn't leaving high school as a virgin.
Memento is a top tier film
Blank Check is so confused by the door deadbolting!
Are you gonna react to rollercoaster of friendship?
I heard about this On Equestria Amino... Forgot to watch it until now... I think Wallflower used the memory stone on me!
WHAT'S THIS?!? A FORGOTTEN FRIENDSHIP REACTION THAT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN DOWN?!?
Wallflower's actions need to be explored a bit... I understand being ignored in school, but is she invisible at home too? If her parents are away a lot, leaving her with nothing but plants for company, that would explain so much... plus, it would be a decent contrast to Fluttershy, who is the way she is because her parents were pushovers who spoiled their kids, especially her brother Z.B., just because they don't like seeing the younger generation unhappy. Wallflower needs a sequel exploring her family life or lack-there-of, for a special like that would be necessary to reveal the realities of parental neglect... that kids that feel forgotten by their families don't know if the world will remember them or not.
Ive watched this series so many times but it THE BEST!!!!!!!!! Does Twilight need an inhaler at 16:48 and 17:22?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why doesnt sunset take them to equisteria and make twilight tell them thier memory has been erased that would have saved half the movie
seriously i want to freaking know those people who disliked these videos
EVEN SAD ONES!
Iou:pinkies into it!
Me: ponkies into everything in this film
That intro song is way too close to one of a slice of life anime
Now that I think about it this show does go all out anime sometimes... huh, guess I didn't realize that until now :/ accept for the seaon 4 finale of cause, I noticed that at least
Ok am I the only one that thinks that stone looks like the Sheikah Slate from Breath Of The Wild!?
I WATCHED THIS ON DISCOVERY FAMILY AND IT WAS AWESOME
24:54 Trixie: "You *really* want to do this here? In the hallway, in front of everyone?"
Sunset likes to let others watch. ;)
I misheard the line “OCEAN MONSTER!” and thought it was something else.
I'm sad that I missed this by 2 days I could've sworn I had notifications on for you... at least I get to watch it :D
something you said made me think of a Fimfiction story where a crazy pony wrote a book about lots of forbidden magical devices, and published it openly!
Celestia obtained and destroyed as many copies as she could, but kept one locked up.