I’m so glad that Ezri Dax & Worf became friends and allies after a rocky start, although he didn’t want the current host of the Dax Symbiont around. It was also very honorable of General Martok to welcome Ezri Dax as a member of his house.
When Ezri asked Worf "How many times he had to cover up the crimes of Klingon leaders because he was told it was for the good of the empire?" Really hit hard for Worf, not just he got exiled for siding against the empire during the Cardassian invasion, but he was told to accept discomendation and labeled a traitor and label his father a traitor to protect Duras and by extension the empire.
"Who was the last Leader of the High Council you respect? Was there even one?" is a bit off though, considering that Worf only lived to see two at this point - Gowron of course, and K'mpec, who lead the empire for much of the 24th century.
I hated how the movies ignored Worf’s ending in DS9. Going back to just being the tactical officer on the Enterprise was really a step backwards for him
He never re-joined the crew after DS9. They just had convenient excuses for him to be on the ship. First Contact: 2373 He was on the Defiant, and rescued by the Enterprise-E Insurrection: 2375 Was on a separate mission near by and had stopped by the Enterprise to visit old friends. Nemesis: 2379 He had returned to Earth for Will and Deanna's wedding, and was hitching a ride to the second ceremony on Betazed
According to a video that TrekCulture released, Worf tried the whole ambassador role but passed it on to his son to join the crew of the crew of the Enterprise-E. He then later becomes the first officer. After Picard gets promoted to Admiral, Worf becomes captain of the Enterprise-E. ua-cam.com/video/6dLkd9V1d1c/v-deo.html
I really liked the relationship dynamic between Worf and Ezri, how it went from him wanting absolutely nothing to do with her to him and her developing a strong familial brother sister relationship. Almost have to feel sorry for anyone that breaks her heart and have Worf find out about it.
Connor Lonergan I aree with you and I think He does the in Ezri the Child wich Worf and Jadzia never had. I think he see a unhelply person which is a little bit like Jadzia and he see in her something from himself.
I agree with you, bud. It does suit him. Worf really does suit the mentor role rather than the love interest. A great shame they did not figure that out.
never hated her .. crush aye .. as i know real (male)trekkies had a crush with pretty much every female character of any crew exept .. KES if any the problem was she more or less had to replace "jadzia -intelligent spiritual strong very experienced and beautiful (likable 10) while Ezri was more of a -smart shy somewhat vulnerable but cute and sweet (likable10) ..
and to think that later on, she changes career paths by leaving the sciences blue behind and picks up the line red and becomes one of the later great captains.
I find it quite interesting in the beginning - Erzi and Worf come back to the station and Ezri only hugs O'Brien. And then she and Bashir stand awkwardly in front of each other for a few seconds until Sisko arrives and breaks the tension. Excellent writing for an early relationship none of the participants really knows where they stand.
how many husbands would sit there and listen while his "wife" talks about having feelings for another man. Worf was married to Dax and technically this was still Dax.
SHADE I hated that line as far as women were concerned. I actually told my ex girl friend after she dumped me we could be friends, I told her I had enough girls for friends and didnt need any more, especially after 4 years. Screw you bitch! I did have plenty of " girl friends" , just didnt need that treatment. A man has needs...
@@scottfirman Thing is Jadzia Dax and Ezri Dax were two different people. She shared Jadzia's memories but they weren't really hers. The symbiote blends with a new host. You can't expect the new person to have the same feelings as the old. It's almost like a reincarnation but you don't gain your memories from you're previous life until you are a certain age. Once you got those memories, if you went up to a former lover and tell them would you think that they would expect you to feel the same way? No of course not. Might they fall in love with you again? Certainly, but they can't expect you to do the same.
I cannot decide if Martok is rewarding or punishing Worf with an ambassadorial position, for making him Chancellor. Considering a Klingon sense of humour, it's probably both.
Robert Currie have you considered the possibility that because they are friends and house brothers that Martok just wanted his best friend around him because he would miss him if he was serving at DS9 or another ship while he had to return to Kronos to run the empire. It might just be me but I think he just wanted Worf by his side because he trusted and respected him
Comrades need honorable allies. There are none more honorable than Worf and General Martok in the whole of the Klingon empire. They need one another. The disease of corruption is just another mighty beast to slay...we would do well to take up our own swords against it.
Oh definitely a bit of both and camaraderie of course. But you can't deny that putting Worf in that position and seeing him squirm a little was probably more than little entertaining to martock.
I think this is Ezri Dax's greatest scene. She is the one who sets the future of the Empire. An Empire that's heading for the metaphorical brick wall at ninety miles an hour. The Klingon Empire should have fallen long before the Dominion war... but the war would break the empire, considering their casualties and losses. The next civil war WILL end the empire. Now, the average Klingon MUST decide how to embrace or refuse this change... the fact remains, the empire is Doomed.
I see the Empire entering a new era. Martok has always been a much more open minded Klingon. With a smart, patriotic and courageous leader at the helm the Empire things will improve drastically with reforms and forward thinking. Having Worf by his side as ambassador will also make this easier. The war has also taken the paper alliance with the Feds and forged it into tempered steel. And with the losses it will also spark growth and opportunity Empire wide for if a forest is to thrive a fire is needed to clear out the deadwood. The Empire of old is doomed but the Klingon Empire will be stronger then ever.
@@digital_gravity even in non-canon source material, such as STO, the story goes the klingons and romulan republic joined forces with the federation and made not just a treaty, but a respected and strong alliance after the war of the iconians.
Worf is one of the best characters in the Star Trek universe. I love how complex of a character he is even though it would have been easy to make him very one dimensional.
Mathew Dempsey agreed. He was after pitted against beings that were of vast power though so it really wasn’t an even fight. He was usually use as a character to be defeated by someone to prove how powerful or skilled they were.
you could tell that Worf still loved Dax even in that tiny body, and a little Jealous that She and Bashir fell in love after a short time she died in Worf's arms on the operating table. To me Worf looked liked a father looking after a lost daughter and wanted the best for her.
Well, Ezri Dax ends up dumping Dr Bashir a few years later and she says to him that she dated him because of what she thought were lingering feelings but she now realized that those feelings had a dead end for Jadzia just as they do now with her. Pretty brutal blow for Julian. He gets rejected by two versions of Dax
Worf has extremely complicated views about love and sex. He is, by all appearances, of average libido for a Klingon, but because he didn't grow up among other Klingons and went through puberty living among humans, he only knows about Klingon (and by extension his own) sexuality from the ideals that he was taught. He was taught that Klingons view mating as sacred, that its function is to produce children, and that he must marry his mate. However, anyone who has grown up in an extremely religious house will have learned the same lessons but will also know from experience that basically no one does that. My parents actively taught the whole "missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation" line, but my mom had numerous male and female sexual partners both before and during her marriage to my dad and my dad probably had at least one male partner. If Worf had had the opportunity to grow up among Klingons he would probably have learned that the Klingon relationship ideals are just that--ideals. Just because it's what they teach and what they believe on paper, that's not how people behave. But since he didn't grow up among Klingons, he grew up among squishy and not interested humans, he didn't get the chance to internalize those messages. So now he thinks that any time he wants to mate it must mean he's ready to marry and so is his partner. He struggles to decouple the idea of lust from the idea of love. He had this problem with Alexander's mother K'Ehleyr, he had this problem with Deanna Troi, he had this problem with Jadzia, and he had this problem with Ezri. However, even though it's difficult for him to do, he does eventually accept that other people don't see mating in the same way that he does. As he acknowledges to Ezri in the Cardassian prison, to Jadzia mating could mean many things--not just what it meant to him. Jadzia makes a similar point to him on Risa, telling him that he doesn't understand Klingon mating as well as she does because the Dax symbiont has had more Klingon sexual partners than Worf. In my opinion, Worf really does love Ezri but doesn't understand or know how to process love. At the end of the day despite his jealousy and confusion he wants what's best for her. It's unfortunate that his early life didn't set him up to understand his sexuality in a more nuanced way.
@@fingerboxes You nailed it. Still kind of hated how Worf had to watch the love of his life (kind of) becoming Bashirs girl. I absolutely hated Bashir and Ezri together, it was like "well, if he cannot have Jadzia Dax, then at least Ezri."
@@fingerboxes Excuse me, as a Lutheran, you're WRONG!! A LOT of people do that! A LOT OF PEOPLE SAVE THEMSELVES FOR MARRIAGE AND BELIEVE MARRIAGE IS HOLY AND SACRED! AND YES YOU MUST MARRY YOUR TRUE LOVE, THAT'S WHAT GOD WANTS! My parents did!! If your parents acted that way they weren't true religious people,. they were hippocrites. A LOT OF PEOPLE MARRY THEIR LOVE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE STAY MARRIED AND DON;T CHEAT!! YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO CHURCH!!
i watch this whole entire show ever 2 years or so. watching stuff like this makes my want to start the cycle over again early! I finally managed to find other shows like the Expanse but I will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS go back to my comfort shows, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT. They just make me SO happy to watch. I cant explain it.
It's probably because he won't admit he has a secret hobby table in his quarters where he works on his own Warhammer 40k models. He's just bitter they want to play historical wargames instead of Sci-Fi ones.
I bet Ezri and Worf have that little bit inside of them that tells them to resume the relationship that Worf and Jasmine has, but they both realize that Jadzia and Ezri are not the same person, despite both having the symbiont, and that the relationship might not work again.
I think that Nicole de Boer looked insanely cute and acted just adorable in that 1997 movie "Cube". I mean, she was the epitome of cute and adorable in that film.
Can Worf be Federation ambassador to the Klingons? Not only is he a Klingon, but he is of the House of Martok. Is his first loyalty to the Federation or to his House, not to speak of his personal loyalty to Martok.
He has proven time and time again his loyalties are straight. Besides, Martok was an ally to the Federation, and it was in their mutual benefit. What was in the interest of one was in the interest of the other.
I believe that the sentiment was to have someone who was so honourable that they would never work against the interests of either Martok, the Federation, or the Klingons. His appointed ambassadorship was a wedding ring in the marriage between the two factions.
I think I need buy the blue rays and watch all the episodes in English. Watched the series on German television and the original voices give the characters so much more depths... Amazing!
One thing I was always a little confused about was how Worf went from being the Federation's ambassador to the Klingons... to being back on the bridge of the Defiant in Star Trek: First Contact...
The scene in First Contact happened before the end of the Dominion War. When the Borg came,, Sisko was in a runabout with Michael Eddington in the Badlands.
"I don't know if I should advice you on this.... it's a Klingon matter", says the Trill possessor of the memories of a former Trill assigned as a diplomat in Klingon space.
And that is why this show is so beloved by the fans. Characters grew, they didn't go stale. And some died, much to our dismay. And we got to watch the rest of the crew dealt with that pain of loss. So hard to nail all those notes, and so much more, but DS9 did a great job.
ua-cam.com/users/neverlovedaboy1 unfortunately Terry Farrell decided to call it quits rather than sign on for one final season. The show was in distress and struggling. I don't know if the fans would except Dax relegated to an unseen character.
Ronicko Keith She was killed by Gul Dukat (who was possessed by a Pah-Wraith) in “Tears of the prophets” shortly after that happened the Dax Symbiot was transferred into another trill host called Ezri Tigan Who after that became Ezri Dax.
I am so sad that Judzia Dax dies. The only sweetness in it is in real life Terry Farrell married Adam Nimroy , Leonard Nimroy's son. Can you imagine! She married the son of Spock.
Let that be a lesson to all females of all species: don't get involved romantically with Worf! First Keylar (spelling?), then Jadzia. At least Ezri had the good sense to break up with him before it was too late. All joking aside though, I shed a few tears during these videos.
You're very welcome, glad you enjoyed them... if you're a Star Trek fan who hasn't watched DS9 you might want to watch the episode Far Beyond the Stars... season six episode 13... you 'll be familiar enough with the cast now to enjoy it, and I think it may be the best episode in all of Star Trek.
Ezri makes an excellent point, both Gowron and K'mpec were willing to let Worf's family take the fall for something they knew wasn't their fault, the Duras family was corrupt and power hungry but they weren't nearly as powerful as the High Council gave them credit for, they murdered K'mpec and tried to usurp Gowron but ultimately the only one who paid for their traitorous ways was Toral!
Interested to see where this leads in Star Trek: Picard. Worf may be a good man, but as an ambassador he has little understanding of the reality of the Klingon people nor the Empire. I can easily see the horrible future that Future Alexander came back to stop happening again anyways.
I love that in the Picard-era Starfleet got off its ass and built an orbital defense capable of even holding itself off for hours. If the Breen had tried to attack Earth in 2402 they would gotten their asses kicked.
There's a lot of Ezri and Julian in the Worf and Ezri compilation. I actually made compilations for Tom and B'ellana from Voyager then for Jim and Pam from The Office... in both cases UA-cam took them down since I don't own the rights to any of them.... DS9 included, of course, but for some reason these are okay.
I felt for Nicole DeBeor, who replaced a larger than life charater like (Jadzia Dax) Terry Farrell. A lot of DS9 viewers were pretty tough on her. I'm glad she went on to another series, The Dead Zzone.
Personally, I never cared for Bashir and Dax. And in this end portion, Bashir was so smug about it, I don't care for him at all. I can understand Worf and Ezri not being a couple but jeez....Ezri and Bashir go together like hot sauce and salt on an apple pie.
Davemortal@ Thanx for up-lounding this "truly great love story"...to me DS9 was by far the best show in the STAR TREK universe. All the characters in DS9 were great but i allways love Quark the moust. I give DS9 10/10
You can tell that when Martok says "... and I am not a politician" with some amount of anger towards Worf for making him one. This is just his payback, making Worf a politician as well, forcing him into the life the he made Martok undergo.
I've always loved Worf. He's an an amazing character and he deserved this unbelievable love story...but I'm a little biased because my true star trek love is William Riker and I wish that they would have written a story like this one for him and Deanna....not that theirs was bad. It was actually really romantic and sweet. They deserved it too. So for me, I guess it's a tie when it comes to the greatest star trek love story.
3:45 So my mother once heard the mom of one my older brother's friends refer to their Warhammher40K models as "DOLLS" and none of us have let it down since. (I also play Warhammer too btw)
That's why Worf was so bitter about their game. He was a closeted 40K player and was bitter all the nerds on the station wanted to play historical wargames.
Nicole was awesome in National Lampoon's Senior Trip. Jeremy Renner's first movie too. Tara Strong (Voiceover artist for practically everything) was in it.
In the Next Gen series, we learned a lot about the imperial powers that surround the Federation, the Klingons, the Romulans, and the Cardassians. The positive aspects of their cultures were strongly emphasized. The negative ones were only presented in terms of their negative effect on the imperial peoples themselves, as here where Dax talks to Worf about the corruption at the highest levels of Klingon government. Never, ever, ever was so much as a word said about the subject peoples suffering under these brutal tyrants heals, with the sole exception of the Bajorans.
I’m so glad that Ezri Dax & Worf became friends and allies after a rocky start, although he didn’t want the current host of the Dax Symbiont around. It was also very honorable of General Martok to welcome Ezri Dax as a member of his house.
Not honorable, sweet.
@@heidikickhouse-Dorn deserved an Emmy for the face he pulled in that scene.
@@ryanwaege7251Agreed. Although I have no idea what on earth I meant by my comment. I'll delete it.
Morn confirmed as a Temporal agent.
That would make a surprising amount of sense.
I wouldn't be surprised
Damn... You might be on to something
When Ezri asked Worf "How many times he had to cover up the crimes of Klingon leaders because he was told it was for the good of the empire?" Really hit hard for Worf, not just he got exiled for siding against the empire during the Cardassian invasion, but he was told to accept discomendation and labeled a traitor and label his father a traitor to protect Duras and by extension the empire.
"Who was the last Leader of the High Council you respect? Was there even one?" is a bit off though, considering that Worf only lived to see two at this point - Gowron of course, and K'mpec, who lead the empire for much of the 24th century.
@@danielk5780 How about the leaders who died before he was even born?
@@observer2484Exactly history exists
I hated how the movies ignored Worf’s ending in DS9. Going back to just being the tactical officer on the Enterprise was really a step backwards for him
He never re-joined the crew after DS9. They just had convenient excuses for him to be on the ship.
First Contact: 2373 He was on the Defiant, and rescued by the Enterprise-E
Insurrection: 2375 Was on a separate mission near by and had stopped by the Enterprise to visit old friends.
Nemesis: 2379 He had returned to Earth for Will and Deanna's wedding, and was hitching a ride to the second ceremony on Betazed
According to a video that TrekCulture released, Worf tried the whole ambassador role but passed it on to his son to join the crew of the crew of the Enterprise-E. He then later becomes the first officer. After Picard gets promoted to Admiral, Worf becomes captain of the Enterprise-E. ua-cam.com/video/6dLkd9V1d1c/v-deo.html
@@nelsonsmith7338That's dumb
As far as the Enterprise E goes... That WASN'T his fault.
Sisko flat out tells Worf he will likely never get promoted or recieve a solo command after he rescues JAdzia.
I really liked the relationship dynamic between Worf and Ezri, how it went from him wanting absolutely nothing to do with her to him and her developing a strong familial brother sister relationship. Almost have to feel sorry for anyone that breaks her heart and have Worf find out about it.
i hated it, why make worph a cuck
I will be honest I prefer Worf being more of a father figure to this Dax than a love interest
Connor Lonergan I aree with you and I think He does the in Ezri the Child wich Worf and Jadzia never had. I think he see a unhelply person which is a little bit like Jadzia and he see in her something from himself.
Connor
She calls him daddy ;)
I agree with you, bud. It does suit him. Worf really does suit the mentor role rather than the love interest.
A great shame they did not figure that out.
Yeah, this is clearly a brother/sister kinda relationship.
I know Trekkie's hate her, but I had a crush on little Ezri.
Johnnyc drums Not me, I had the hots for her.
Not at all I had a crush on her.
I didn't exactly hate her, but she wasn't there long enough for me to like or dislike her.
never hated her .. crush aye .. as i know real (male)trekkies had a crush with pretty much every female character of any crew exept .. KES
if any the problem was she more or less had to replace "jadzia -intelligent spiritual strong very experienced and beautiful (likable 10) while Ezri was more of a -smart shy somewhat vulnerable but cute and sweet (likable10) ..
and to think that later on, she changes career paths by leaving the sciences blue behind and picks up the line red and becomes one of the later great captains.
I find it quite interesting in the beginning - Erzi and Worf come back to the station and Ezri only hugs O'Brien. And then she and Bashir stand awkwardly in front of each other for a few seconds until Sisko arrives and breaks the tension. Excellent writing for an early relationship none of the participants really knows where they stand.
Bashir even holds his arms open for a hug from Ezri but she was hoping O'Brien would step between them to hug Worf.
It is so cute how Worf ends up being like a big brother to Ezri by the end of DS9!
Jennifer D. after sleeping with her lol
Wouldn't you bang your reincarnated spouse, just to see? Imagine if Dax had been a dude again!
@dark zeratul eh, some people can fuck and be platonic friends later. It is not unheard of.
Lannister sibling vibes.
3:07 a little Jadzia bubbling to the surface.
Poor Worf. He got married twice in his career and neither wife survived more than a few weeks (or even a few hours in K'ehleyr's case).
In Star Trek online, he is married to Grilka. She has managed to stay alive.
@@Shadx27 I like that. Grilka's the sort of woman Worf needs.
@@Shadx27 Really? Grilka? How cool!! Any children?
@@emdee7744 A son K'Dhan, but I don't think he is mentioned much in the game
@@Shadx27 You know what they say: thrid times the charme!
I almost cried. Worf and jadzia forever❤️
"you're a good friend, Worf" "I know". For some reason that made me laugh.
how many husbands would sit there and listen while his "wife" talks about having feelings for another man. Worf was married to Dax and technically this was still Dax.
@@drmayeda1930 Different Dax, Technically his ex wife.
Ezri: You're a good friend Wof...
Worf: I know-
Jeeze, that was the closest thing to "owning the friend zone" anyone could ever do-
Owning the friend zone... XD
SHADE I hated that line as far as women were concerned. I actually told my ex girl friend after she dumped me we could be friends, I told her I had enough girls for friends and didnt need any more, especially after 4 years. Screw you bitch! I did have plenty of " girl friends" , just didnt need that treatment. A man has needs...
Indeed he owned the friend zone
RC Hobbyist Extreme how did she take that
@@scottfirman Thing is Jadzia Dax and Ezri Dax were two different people. She shared Jadzia's memories but they weren't really hers. The symbiote blends with a new host. You can't expect the new person to have the same feelings as the old. It's almost like a reincarnation but you don't gain your memories from you're previous life until you are a certain age. Once you got those memories, if you went up to a former lover and tell them would you think that they would expect you to feel the same way? No of course not. Might they fall in love with you again? Certainly, but they can't expect you to do the same.
I cannot decide if Martok is rewarding or punishing Worf with an ambassadorial position, for making him Chancellor.
Considering a Klingon sense of humour, it's probably both.
Robert Currie have you considered the possibility that because they are friends and house brothers that Martok just wanted his best friend around him because he would miss him if he was serving at DS9 or another ship while he had to return to Kronos to run the empire. It might just be me but I think he just wanted Worf by his side because he trusted and respected him
It’s fitting because Curzon Dax had that job and now Worf, widow of Jadzia Dax, will get to have that job
As a man with experience in both worlds, he’s the right man for the job
Comrades need honorable allies.
There are none more honorable than Worf and General Martok in the whole of the Klingon empire.
They need one another.
The disease of corruption is just another mighty beast to slay...we would do well to take up our own swords against it.
Oh definitely a bit of both and camaraderie of course. But you can't deny that putting Worf in that position and seeing him squirm a little was probably more than little entertaining to martock.
I think this is Ezri Dax's greatest scene. She is the one who sets the future of the Empire. An Empire that's heading for the metaphorical brick wall at ninety miles an hour. The Klingon Empire should have fallen long before the Dominion war... but the war would break the empire, considering their casualties and losses. The next civil war WILL end the empire. Now, the average Klingon MUST decide how to embrace or refuse this change... the fact remains, the empire is Doomed.
I see the Empire entering a new era. Martok has always been a much more open minded Klingon. With a smart, patriotic and courageous leader at the helm the Empire things will improve drastically with reforms and forward thinking. Having Worf by his side as ambassador will also make this easier. The war has also taken the paper alliance with the Feds and forged it into tempered steel. And with the losses it will also spark growth and opportunity Empire wide for if a forest is to thrive a fire is needed to clear out the deadwood. The Empire of old is doomed but the Klingon Empire will be stronger then ever.
@@lordhawkeye Well said!
The Klingons eventually joined the Federation. That was predicted by the Organians as far back as TOS and confirmed by a time traveler in Enterprise.
@@digital_gravity even in non-canon source material, such as STO, the story goes the klingons and romulan republic joined forces with the federation and made not just a treaty, but a respected and strong alliance after the war of the iconians.
...6:21 And just like that, Dax changes the course of history of the Klingon Empire with a few words.
Honesty Ezri Dax dropped the Truth on Worf and Wham!
For how rushed Ezri's character was, she was probably the best counsellor of the whole Trek franchise!
Worf is one of the best characters in the Star Trek universe. I love how complex of a character he is even though it would have been easy to make him very one dimensional.
Well yes, but on next gen he gets his ass kicked way too much
Mathew Dempsey agreed. He was after pitted against beings that were of vast power though so it really wasn’t an even fight. He was usually use as a character to be defeated by someone to prove how powerful or skilled they were.
@@00tree There's a reason that TV tropes has two Tropes named after him.
you could tell that Worf still loved Dax even in that tiny body, and a little Jealous that She and Bashir fell in love after a short time she died in Worf's arms on the operating table. To me Worf looked liked a father looking after a lost daughter and wanted the best for her.
Well, Ezri Dax ends up dumping Dr Bashir a few years later and she says to him that she dated him because of what she thought were lingering feelings but she now realized that those feelings had a dead end for Jadzia just as they do now with her.
Pretty brutal blow for Julian. He gets rejected by two versions of Dax
Worf has extremely complicated views about love and sex. He is, by all appearances, of average libido for a Klingon, but because he didn't grow up among other Klingons and went through puberty living among humans, he only knows about Klingon (and by extension his own) sexuality from the ideals that he was taught. He was taught that Klingons view mating as sacred, that its function is to produce children, and that he must marry his mate.
However, anyone who has grown up in an extremely religious house will have learned the same lessons but will also know from experience that basically no one does that. My parents actively taught the whole "missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation" line, but my mom had numerous male and female sexual partners both before and during her marriage to my dad and my dad probably had at least one male partner. If Worf had had the opportunity to grow up among Klingons he would probably have learned that the Klingon relationship ideals are just that--ideals. Just because it's what they teach and what they believe on paper, that's not how people behave.
But since he didn't grow up among Klingons, he grew up among squishy and not interested humans, he didn't get the chance to internalize those messages. So now he thinks that any time he wants to mate it must mean he's ready to marry and so is his partner. He struggles to decouple the idea of lust from the idea of love. He had this problem with Alexander's mother K'Ehleyr, he had this problem with Deanna Troi, he had this problem with Jadzia, and he had this problem with Ezri. However, even though it's difficult for him to do, he does eventually accept that other people don't see mating in the same way that he does. As he acknowledges to Ezri in the Cardassian prison, to Jadzia mating could mean many things--not just what it meant to him. Jadzia makes a similar point to him on Risa, telling him that he doesn't understand Klingon mating as well as she does because the Dax symbiont has had more Klingon sexual partners than Worf.
In my opinion, Worf really does love Ezri but doesn't understand or know how to process love. At the end of the day despite his jealousy and confusion he wants what's best for her. It's unfortunate that his early life didn't set him up to understand his sexuality in a more nuanced way.
James that’s memory beta though. They could still be together in canon
@@fingerboxes You nailed it. Still kind of hated how Worf had to watch the love of his life (kind of) becoming Bashirs girl. I absolutely hated Bashir and Ezri together, it was like "well, if he cannot have Jadzia Dax, then at least Ezri."
@@fingerboxes Excuse me, as a Lutheran, you're WRONG!! A LOT of people do that! A LOT OF PEOPLE SAVE THEMSELVES FOR MARRIAGE AND BELIEVE MARRIAGE IS HOLY AND SACRED! AND YES YOU MUST MARRY YOUR TRUE LOVE, THAT'S WHAT GOD WANTS!
My parents did!!
If your parents acted that way they weren't true religious people,. they were hippocrites. A LOT OF PEOPLE MARRY THEIR LOVE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE STAY MARRIED AND DON;T CHEAT!! YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO CHURCH!!
Warf is such a class act being all supportive of his dead/regenerated/ex wife's relationships.
i watch this whole entire show ever 2 years or so. watching stuff like this makes my want to start the cycle over again early!
I finally managed to find other shows like the Expanse but I will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS go back to my comfort shows, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT. They just make me SO happy to watch. I cant explain it.
It's maybe nostalgia. Those shows were the OG sci-fi shows for many people!
Thank you so much! I miss Worf - the best character ever.
Ezri knew what to say and how to say it to Worf without hurting his feelings at the right time.
Love when worf presses the button when seeing ezri and julian kissing
A story 1000x better than twilight.
Aka any story
I can't imagine how much of a mindfuck this was for Worf!
I'm sure Trill symbiants can be a mind fuck for anyone that know them.
Just as it was for Dr Crusher...
"He gets excited playing with toys". Years later a more emotionally mature Worf admits, "Swords are fun".
Great Journeys, Great Writing.
I really enjoyed watching this entire series of videos, thanks for compiling them.
0:16 Bashir goes for the hug and.... DENIED.
Hugblocked by his best friend.
And Jedzia said I didn't have a sense of humor
I wonder if Miles and Worf had a bet on whether or not Julian and Ezri would get together...
Thanks kindly... it's such a great story that it always bugged me people can even argue about which Star Trek romance was the best.
Worf, the only guy ever who doesn't lose his masculinity ...... even in the friendzone
You'd think worf would appreciate the Chief and Dr. Bashir Honorably defending a hopeless position
It's probably because he won't admit he has a secret hobby table in his quarters where he works on his own Warhammer 40k models. He's just bitter they want to play historical wargames instead of Sci-Fi ones.
Thanks, it was fun to make and I'm glad you guys enjoyed it.
Character development on DS9 was great.
I bet Ezri and Worf have that little bit inside of them that tells them to resume the relationship that Worf and Jasmine has, but they both realize that Jadzia and Ezri are not the same person, despite both having the symbiont, and that the relationship might not work again.
This must have taken forever to piece together. Very well done, my wife and I enjoyed it very much.
Dax (this incarnation) is played by Nicole DeBoer, not Terry Farrell
I didn't notice.
No shit Sherlock....
@@dphorgan There's an error in the description...
I don't think it's an error; I believe the poster what referring to the actual romance part (which was when Terry Farrell was still in the role).
@@ariochiv Correct
Worf at 8:20. Pissed my pants with laughter!
A compilation worthy of Star Trek. You honor the Trek family. Qapla'
I think that Nicole de Boer looked insanely cute and acted just adorable in that 1997 movie "Cube". I mean, she was the epitome of cute and adorable in that film.
Can Worf be Federation ambassador to the Klingons? Not only is he a Klingon, but he is of the House of Martok. Is his first loyalty to the Federation or to his House, not to speak of his personal loyalty to Martok.
He has proven time and time again his loyalties are straight. Besides, Martok was an ally to the Federation, and it was in their mutual benefit. What was in the interest of one was in the interest of the other.
His first loyalty was to Captain Sisko.
I believe that the sentiment was to have someone who was so honourable that they would never work against the interests of either Martok, the Federation, or the Klingons. His appointed ambassadorship was a wedding ring in the marriage between the two factions.
Worf: So Jadzia could do this thing with the Baat'Leth, and her little finger....
Ezri: NO!
I think I need buy the blue rays and watch all the episodes in English. Watched the series on German television and the original voices give the characters so much more depths... Amazing!
One thing I was always a little confused about was how Worf went from being the Federation's ambassador to the Klingons... to being back on the bridge of the Defiant in Star Trek: First Contact...
The scene in First Contact happened before the end of the Dominion War. When the Borg came,, Sisko was in a runabout with Michael Eddington in the Badlands.
"I don't know if I should advice you on this.... it's a Klingon matter", says the Trill possessor of the memories of a former Trill assigned as a diplomat in Klingon space.
I constantly have to point out to people the difference between my model trains and I child's toy train.
It is still sad Worf lost Jadzia and by letting Ezri love someone else it was like him letting go completely; Jadzia should have lived.
And that is why this show is so beloved by the fans. Characters grew, they didn't go stale. And some died, much to our dismay. And we got to watch the rest of the crew dealt with that pain of loss. So hard to nail all those notes, and so much more, but DS9 did a great job.
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unfortunately Terry Farrell decided to call it quits rather than sign on for one final season. The show was in distress and struggling. I don't know if the fans would except Dax relegated to an unseen character.
@@lordhawkeye how did she die?
Ronicko Keith She was killed by Gul Dukat (who was possessed by a Pah-Wraith) in “Tears of the prophets” shortly after that happened the Dax Symbiot was transferred into another trill host called Ezri Tigan Who after that became Ezri Dax.
I am so sad that Judzia Dax dies. The only sweetness in it is in real life Terry Farrell married Adam Nimroy , Leonard Nimroy's son. Can you imagine! She married the son of Spock.
and I sit here watching this, gritting my teeth and looking at my 15mm Napoleonic and American Civil War armies sitting on my shelf....lol!
Let that be a lesson to all females of all species: don't get involved romantically with Worf! First Keylar (spelling?), then Jadzia. At least Ezri had the good sense to break up with him before it was too late.
All joking aside though, I shed a few tears during these videos.
You're very welcome, glad you enjoyed them... if you're a Star Trek fan who hasn't watched DS9 you might want to watch the episode Far Beyond the Stars... season six episode 13... you 'll be familiar enough with the cast now to enjoy it, and I think it may be the best episode in all of Star Trek.
On the.Enterprise worf was under the gun so.to speak. However , on. DS 9. he was more open.up and appreciated by his new crewmates.
Worf may say toys are for children but deep down in the heart he want to truely play with them
3:15 DS9 was really ahead of its time. It presaged both the bromance and adult male toy collectors.
7:39 Warf, you are quite the wingman.
Ezri makes an excellent point, both Gowron and K'mpec were willing to let Worf's family take the fall for something they knew wasn't their fault, the Duras family was corrupt and power hungry but they weren't nearly as powerful as the High Council gave them credit for, they murdered K'mpec and tried to usurp Gowron but ultimately the only one who paid for their traitorous ways was Toral!
The ending of the series made me sad. It was over. It was like a family that fell apart.
Very nice. Thanks for posting.
Thanks John, glad you enjoyed.
Morn winning the pool is priceless
I wonder if he made an acceptance speech.
Interested to see where this leads in Star Trek: Picard.
Worf may be a good man, but as an ambassador he has little understanding of the reality of the Klingon people nor the Empire.
I can easily see the horrible future that Future Alexander came back to stop happening again anyways.
03:50 She is like: "so? i like to play with toys too" :)
Worf: "He gets excited playing with toys."
What kind of toys are we talking about, Mr. Worf?
Worf and Ezri didn’t have the same chemistry as Worf and Jadzia
I like these videos of Worf and Dax as Jadzia and Ezri! Thank you so much. :D
I love that in the Picard-era Starfleet got off its ass and built an orbital defense capable of even holding itself off for hours. If the Breen had tried to attack Earth in 2402 they would gotten their asses kicked.
Thanks a LOT, Miles--way to ruin Julian's chance to give Ezri a hug!
Chief of Operations Miles Edward Cockblocker O'Brien
I found that ezri gave the show a refresher
There's a lot of Ezri and Julian in the Worf and Ezri compilation. I actually made compilations for Tom and B'ellana from Voyager then for Jim and Pam from The Office... in both cases UA-cam took them down since I don't own the rights to any of them.... DS9 included, of course, but for some reason these are okay.
I... need to revisit Ezri. I'm sorry, Ezri.
It had to be extremely hard on worf to have ezri there knowing that his wife might be gone but she's not
I felt for Nicole DeBeor, who replaced a larger than life charater like (Jadzia Dax) Terry Farrell. A lot of DS9 viewers were pretty tough on her. I'm glad she went on to another series, The Dead Zzone.
She has the same position on the Klingons Picard did.
Personally, I never cared for Bashir and Dax. And in this end portion, Bashir was so smug about it, I don't care for him at all. I can understand Worf and Ezri not being a couple but jeez....Ezri and Bashir go together like hot sauce and salt on an apple pie.
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The best trek is deep space 9 and their ensemble cast of characters arcs.
Davemortal@
Thanx for up-lounding this "truly great love story"...to me DS9 was by far the best show in the STAR TREK universe. All the characters in DS9 were great but i allways love Quark the moust. I give DS9 10/10
Great edit. Thanks for posting!!
John Doolittle Glad you enjoyed it!
You can tell that when Martok says "... and I am not a politician" with some amount of anger towards Worf for making him one. This is just his payback, making Worf a politician as well, forcing him into the life the he made Martok undergo.
Did this come first or Game of Thrones because there were real Robert and Ned vibes.
She's so cute
"I never played with toys" - worf
I would love to see a new star trek with Worf as captain of the Enterprise. It would be a more battle-oriented show. That would be awesome!
good thing Miles didn't let Bashir touch his Warhammer 40k army :P
I've always loved Worf. He's an an amazing character and he deserved this unbelievable love story...but I'm a little biased because my true star trek love is William Riker and I wish that they would have written a story like this one for him and Deanna....not that theirs was bad. It was actually really romantic and sweet. They deserved it too. So for me, I guess it's a tie when it comes to the greatest star trek love story.
Watch Pickard series, Trust me you will see something you like.
fozzy f I’ve seen it! I love it! And I love what they did for Will and Deanna
@@jackieberrios Me too, was a great series that really respected all the great characters. Loved it.
The Breen were able to attack Earth but the Borg never could? I call shenanigans.
Borg were too busy
This was a great episode
Thanks for creating this! Enjoyed VERY much!
3:45 So my mother once heard the mom of one my older brother's friends refer to their Warhammher40K models as "DOLLS" and none of us have let it down since. (I also play Warhammer too btw)
That's why Worf was so bitter about their game. He was a closeted 40K player and was bitter all the nerds on the station wanted to play historical wargames.
Definitely my favorite series...well, after TOS.
Nicole was awesome in National Lampoon's Senior Trip. Jeremy Renner's first movie too. Tara Strong (Voiceover artist for practically everything) was in it.
The fact that she's always in trouble.
This was great. I had never seen Deep Space Nine and I really enjoyed these videos. Thank you so much for all of your work.
Thanks for posting all this.
6:15 Ezri is great
As someone who plays with toy models... I feel called out by Worf here, hahaha
7:33 God, I wish I had friends like Worf.
That was very "umami" of Martok. Meat-flavored.
The original post is wrong. Terry Farrell played Jadzia, not Ezri. Nicole deBoer played Ezri. Terry Farrell isn't in this clip.
In the Next Gen series, we learned a lot about the imperial powers that surround the Federation, the Klingons, the Romulans, and the Cardassians. The positive aspects of their cultures were strongly emphasized. The negative ones were only presented in terms of their negative effect on the imperial peoples themselves, as here where Dax talks to Worf about the corruption at the highest levels of Klingon government. Never, ever, ever was so much as a word said about the subject peoples suffering under these brutal tyrants heals, with the sole exception of the Bajorans.
Question. How did Worf get his sash back? He wasn't wearing it when he got back.