Nakamura actually talked about this both on his UA-cam and Kick, he was not happy that they decided to share the title. If you think about it there should only be one WORLD CHAMPION, that is simply not possible to split in my opinion, but its also up to FIDE to decide proper tiebreaks.
well Hikaru Nakamura is a professional complainer so it doesnt surprise me he talked about this. I think was a nice moment that they both got to be world champion
Didn't love Magnus until now. Ever since he dropped the classical title, I felt like he was being a bit of a whiner without doing anything about it. Now he proved me wrong. He's willing to fight against the system he feels is broken from within.
@@aj3755 Chess isnt ruined it, lets talk literal, magnus owned Fide. While chess isnt ruined at all, its not like sharing title is in rules now. Also thanks to public, it wont happen again. Nothing is ruined, youre and other people are just being dramatic. You think magnus, Nepo and Fide are good with the critics? It will be in the books and this will only benefit chess to improve with Fide rules. Not Armaggedon by Fide, stupid no jean rule that shouldve never been a problem since those were decent looking for a professional tournament. Sneakers are worse, shoes and Tshirt are by far more important cause they give the important look to decide if its casual or not. Magnus only once came very casual when he played a 3min games with 30 secs. So that stupid issue was totally innecesary. And sharing title was a wrong move by him but Fide shouldve said armaggedon and thats it..
Again, lets talk literal. Next year will be as important and as viewed all over internet, thats wont change and nothing will change apart from dressing code allowing only pants. As soon as they look presentable
The high jump at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics (held in 2021) is one of the most famous and heartwarming examples of sharing first place! Mutaz Essa Barshim of Qatar and Gianmarco Tamberi of Italy both cleared 2.37 meters but failed at 2.39 meters. Rather than go to a jump-off, they asked if they could share the gold medal. When the official confirmed this was possible, they immediately agreed to share the victory.
its a shame. Disrespecting other players who fought thinking that only one would win. Next time hope people start to draw all games in semi finals and finals to share the glory
First: it was in the regulations. Second: totally different sport, neither of them was able to rise the bar, there was a high risk of injury. It is not comparable
5:13:00 This was funny in hindsight. I thought it was an exciting development. It'll probably never happen again in history though. Which again, makes it exciting to me.
In other sports/games you can agree to split winnings but even discussing a possibility of a non-game determined outcome is considered fixing/collusion. You're protecting your overall elo rank by not getting a loss, and if this wasn't the last game, you're purposefully affecting the rating of everyone else you played against.
Yes let’s all live in a world where we are all champions and hold hands. In fact, let’s get rid of competitions all together, it’s too toxic to have 1 winner. We are all winners. Sports should be banned for having a winner.
I really dont like this outcome. I watched the entire event, it was like a good movie with a pathetic, unfinished ending. I also play chess from 40 years now, and for me, chess is about respect, sportivity, fair-play. This is a mockery to all the watchers, supporters, fans, beting houses, investers, sponsors and so on. This is a non-combat entirely unjustified. This is Magnus Carlsen abusing to his fame and a Nepo frighten to be beaten again. Shame on Magnus Carlsen for treating this event like his own private afair, and shame for FIDE to accepting it. Magnus should go away if he is so bored of chess - he is great, but fair-play is greater. Shame for Nepomiatchi for accepting it, i think he could finaly win a title without accepting that pathetic, turnishing proposal. But i have a bit of simpathy for him, he was indeed deserving a title like this (and this could be the interior motif of Carlsen, but i doubt, because he proved many time he is egocentric, like in the case of poor Nieman, who proved he is a real, very good player - btw, congrats for him for beating that image of lack of fair play in chess, called Nakamura). FIDE, PLEASE DO NOT THIS AGAIN!
Magnus not only defends, he recruits a co-defender, his new bestie Ian Nepomniachtchi! Usually there's only tied 1st on day 1, the power of friendship knows no end. Amazing.
Brings back a best new year's memory: a Ku'damm nightclub 1978 (open all night;16-yr-olds welcome) - a complete warzone of fireworks. I stepped into the middle of the street amidst horizontally-fired rockets, retrieving a 2 1/2" cubical twine-wrapped UXB (unsafely disposed of later).
Playing more isnt relevant to makin rules Maybe women had more ball than Magnus and Nepo. Still isnta about balls, its about something they wanted. I mean, looking and thinking properly, not thinking about opinions and Fide itself is actually having balls instead of just followin rules, in a bad way obviously
this isn’t high jump, it makes no sense to have 2 world chess champions. Imagine ding and gukesh both being classical world champion. What’s even worse is how they made the rule at the end of the match for no reason. It’s also terrible for the fans who were waiting to find out who would become the blitz world champion
Nothing is wrong, it happens even in Olympic games which is the highest level of competition. The chess community is just being pathetic and complaining like always.
In many other competitive games/sports even *discussing* the possibility of a draw with another player/team would be considered fixing. They could agree to a prize split, but anything that affects ratings/elo could be seen as protectionism/manipulating the elo of everyone else they played against. Clearly you can discover a draw while playing and that's a reasonable option but that makes for shitty viewing.
In 1907, Harry Pillsbury and Frank Marshall agreed to share first place in the U.S. Chess Championship rather than play a tiebreak match. This was particularly notable given Pillsbury's declining health at the time.
This is NOT a PRIVATE match between TWO "jokes" in 1907!! This is a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP with CLEAR RULES about TIEBREAKERS!! But clowns like FIDE are DESTROYING Chess to fill their pockets!!
Most of the spectators on site don't care either, they talk during the games, yawn loudly or stretch even though they are only a meter away from the players. 4:45:43 One little boy falls asleep during the last game (not him to blame). The whole event does not feel like a world championship at all.
New FIDE rule: Henceforth, if there are no clear winners after game 7, the top two players can declare themselves Joint World Champions ! How wonderful ! Let's do this for all future chess WCs: classical, rapid and blitz !
The Canty - Gustafson banter is GREEEAATTT!!!! They said some really funny stuff ... Canty is ranty, but polite and professional deserving accolades as a commentator and Gustafson is knowingly irreverent and expectedly enjoying and characterizing developments in the conversations and never holds back in his incisive chess assessments that are far far too often correct. They both obviously still Love/appreciate good chess. With this understanding in mind I am LAUGHING at half the things they are saying. I LOVE these guys!!!! When can I watch them next??? I hope SOMEONE is listening!!! :) [Send me your hate mail at karthurbraden@gmail.com]
18:49 " We ALSO have the women's part of it TOO,AS WELL" lol I liked this one (something different,since the rest of the comments are gonna fight about the ending).
this isn’t high jump, it makes no sense to have 2 world chess champions. Imagine ding and gukesh both being classical world champion. What’s even worse is how they made the rule at the end of the match for no reason. It’s also terrible for the fans who were waiting to find out who would become the blitz world champion
Quite different compared to sharing the 1st place in the chess championship. Drawing shouldn't result in sharing the 1st place in chess considering it's such a common occurence
Lol wtf did I just witness? All this time meticulously avoiding spoilers only to discover the match itself was the spoiler. But ya know, if FIDE can't manage to keep a feed of moves up for the world championship match, it shouldn't shock us they can't enforce a single one of their rules. *slow clap*
Il n'y a aucun champion du monde , la Fide crache au visage de millions de fan à travers le monde ni plus ni moins , si Carlsen n'avait pas été multiple champion du monde il n'aurait jamais fait une telle proposition et Nepo ne l'ayant jamais été a immediatement et tout aussi honteusement accepté de partager ce pseudo titre sans combattre .
Zero blame should go to Ian cause let's be honest, most players would've accepted the offer If you want to blame someone, it was Magnus who offered it and it was FIDE who twisted the rules to allow it Mostly falls into FIDE being at fault and at this point Magnus is just displaying FIDE's incompetence
Summary: After rules breaking stunt. Carlsen and Nepo pulled another stunt and fixed the blitz event outcome. Ju and Le showed professionalism and COMPETED until a winner is declared but was never appreciated by their efforts. Special mention to the idiots in the crowd who applauded the game fixing of Carlsen and Nepo.
I don't understand your comment.He clearly dominated whole year-2024 by winning 14 events. But u guys are haters or just hilarious. Name me a player who won half those tournament numbers in this year.
@@shaktiprasadkv2807 Don't be a blind Hero worshipper. If he played well before tournament, he got wins for it. But when he behaves like a coward during a tournament, he should be called a coward and arrogant. After he stopped playing classical chess (Because he cant compete anymore ?) He suddenly cries wolf. Same with following simple rules in rapid. Now he doesn't want to play sudden death. Loser all the way !! Don't support arrogant losers.
Lol just do an armageddon game, give magnus white, give ian black, if magnus doesn't mate him Ian is champ. I agree the jeans thing was dumb but lol.... don't bend on this. Then again if the NYPD is saying get the heck out we have this building in 30 maybe they had no choice in the end?
FIDE not able to provide a functional stream once again... even in the blitz finale the board is lagging behind or wont show up. Happens all the time when they stream. How hard can it be? Really dissapointet by fide. Always these terrible technical failures. I'd be embarassed if i was them
Maybe next year the top 8 could all share the title! Or maybe the top 100! Would save us having to watch all this boring chess. I definitely wasn't enjoying the tension of the sudden death 😢
So in many other sports/competitive games, you can agree to a prize split, but you can't actually get to a shared win without discussing that possibility with the other player or team, and that's considering fixing. It's protectionism/manipulation because it keeps your elo safe, and directly effects the elo/rank of everyone else you played that day. Extend the logic to all the games, every player who showed up day 2 could have just agreed to draw to protect their rating, all placed "first", and there would have been no competition. Good vibes aside. This is a specific carve out for the two leading players, who by definition colluded for a specific result outside of an actual game.
Regulations for the FIDE World Rapid & Blitz Championships 2024 4. 3. 2. 4. Tie-breaks 4. 3. 2. 4. 1. After a drawing of colours, one game with a time control of 3 minutes + 2 seconds increment per move, starting from move 1 shall be played to determine the winner. 4. 3. 2. 4. 2. If the game described in Article 4.3.2.4.1. is drawn, another game shall be played with a time control of 3 minutes + 2 seconds increment per move, starting from move 1 with the colours reversed from the previous game. 4. 3. 2. 4. 3. If the game described in Article 4.3.2.4.2. is drawn, the procedure described in Article 4.3.2.4.2. shall be repeated until the first game won by one of the players. Regulations speak for themselves.
What an utter disgrace from Carlsen, Nepo and FIDE (breaking their own rules in a central matter), after some fantastic chess. In football cups players often endure MUCH more in overtime, than Carlsen and Nepo, and still no one would ever try to become something as silly as "shared winner" just to evade fighting for a decision: a complete and utter NO GO! Now we have two pathetic losers instead of one winner, and this disgrace will be a severe stain on both Carlsen's and Nepos reputation for the the rest of the year. And FIDE is just a laughing stock. I was with Magnus in the silly Jeans affair, but here he just completely lost my respect! And I really laugh at all the silly excuse efforts in this thread!
They would've continued to play drawish lines for every single continuing game if FIDE refused but the fact that Armageddon WASNT a part of the rules is completely baffling and also the reason for why this happened
@@Exerium0 They just played 3 tie breaks & the winner would have decided in the next few games so Armageddon was not really necessary. The fact is Magnus was too afraid if he could have lost.
@@Exerium0 Both the players and FIDE should have supported an Armageddon tiebreak - which in former times at least Magnus was always happy to accept, just to get a decision. FIDE has made a complete laughing stock of themselves by not having any tie break rule in place, and the players added to the disgrace by agreeing to a "shared win", effecteviely making two losers of themselves instead of one winner.
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Nakamura actually talked about this both on his UA-cam and Kick, he was not happy that they decided to share the title. If you think about it there should only be one WORLD CHAMPION, that is simply not possible to split in my opinion, but its also up to FIDE to decide proper tiebreaks.
well Hikaru Nakamura is a professional complainer so it doesnt surprise me he talked about this. I think was a nice moment that they both got to be world champion
No one cares what that man is saying anymore im bored of him
That's what Nakamura gets from siding with Carlsen on rule breaking and disrespecting the 70s
The World Blitz Chess Championship was the friends we made along the way
lol
😂
They could have played an armageddon game to decide the winner . Happy for Ian that he finally won a world title .
This is the best outcome for him. Congrats for all the winners.
half of a title 😂
Armageddon in Blitz isnt fair
Didn't love Magnus until now. Ever since he dropped the classical title, I felt like he was being a bit of a whiner without doing anything about it. Now he proved me wrong. He's willing to fight against the system he feels is broken from within.
Sudden Death mean play to Sudden Death...the Rules was here... you dont need armageddon
The first time that chess world has twin champion is crazy
Jan turned in to super-Jan with his prediction at 5:13:00 "Is Magnus trying to change the rules again? 'We are co-world champions?'"
FIDE is never gonna hear the end of this one
@@pandabear-k7e😂😂😂😂😂
turns out the women's final had more balls than FIDE
I'm done watching chess for a while after this. Good for Jan for calling out the absurdity even though he's Magnus' boy. Jan is the best.
5:13:04 sick prediction gustafsson lmao
i know right? its like he knew already
Magnus just checkmated FIDE.
He checkmated chess and ruined it.
FIDE checkmated themselve. They should never listen Magnus.
@@aj3755 Chess isnt ruined it, lets talk literal, magnus owned Fide. While chess isnt ruined at all, its not like sharing title is in rules now. Also thanks to public, it wont happen again.
Nothing is ruined, youre and other people are just being dramatic. You think magnus, Nepo and Fide are good with the critics? It will be in the books and this will only benefit chess to improve with Fide rules. Not Armaggedon by Fide, stupid no jean rule that shouldve never been a problem since those were decent looking for a professional tournament. Sneakers are worse, shoes and Tshirt are by far more important cause they give the important look to decide if its casual or not. Magnus only once came very casual when he played a 3min games with 30 secs. So that stupid issue was totally innecesary.
And sharing title was a wrong move by him but Fide shouldve said armaggedon and thats it..
Again, lets talk literal. Next year will be as important and as viewed all over internet, thats wont change and nothing will change apart from dressing code allowing only pants. As soon as they look presentable
Does this mean when friends draw each other in a final they just make a few draws then share the title? It's a bad precedent!
Actually there was some wins between them before the draws
The 4 games of the match were win or loss. Magnus wins 2 and Ian 2 as well
And I wonder if the women thought "We should have done that!" honestly I loved the final between the women just as much as the final between the men.
The high jump at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics (held in 2021) is one of the most famous and heartwarming examples of sharing first place! Mutaz Essa Barshim of Qatar and Gianmarco Tamberi of Italy both cleared 2.37 meters but failed at 2.39 meters. Rather than go to a jump-off, they asked if they could share the gold medal. When the official confirmed this was possible, they immediately agreed to share the victory.
@@WilliamKiely undeserved champions in both cases
In that case it was in the regulation, in fact the referee asked if they wanted to go to a jump-off.
its a shame. Disrespecting other players who fought thinking that only one would win. Next time hope people start to draw all games in semi finals and finals to share the glory
First: it was in the regulations. Second: totally different sport, neither of them was able to rise the bar, there was a high risk of injury. It is not comparable
Can't stand Canty
This is like the end of the Hunger Games
😂 LOL!!
Magnus’ and Nepo’s favorite line from _Highlander:_ “There can be only two.”
😂😂
Young fans are taking notes. If you are the top player, this is how to treat FIDE like a lapdog. Create your own rules.
So all you need to do is be the top player, you mean? Ah, that is an easy shortcut indeed...
2 words i can say "JEANS & SHARED CHAMPION"
5:13:00 This was funny in hindsight.
I thought it was an exciting development. It'll probably never happen again in history though. Which again, makes it exciting to me.
I'm glad I went to bed and didn't watch till the end.
Life goes on. Who cares if they split it, it's not like any of us are in the competition.
Actually I'm Magnus Carlse, and I disagree with the ruling.
What about the players that are in the competition
In other sports/games you can agree to split winnings but even discussing a possibility of a non-game determined outcome is considered fixing/collusion. You're protecting your overall elo rank by not getting a loss, and if this wasn't the last game, you're purposefully affecting the rating of everyone else you played against.
@@knightdance8377 yeh hans is crying quite a lot at the moment its funny
Yes let’s all live in a world where we are all champions and hold hands. In fact, let’s get rid of competitions all together, it’s too toxic to have 1 winner. We are all winners. Sports should be banned for having a winner.
FIDE will henceforth make rules on the fly and see if its sticks with the players...
this weekend is not a good weekend for Magnus's reputation.. I think Nepo would have won if they continued to play. Magnus looked nervous and tired.
I really dont like this outcome. I watched the entire event, it was like a good movie with a pathetic, unfinished ending. I also play chess from 40 years now, and for me, chess is about respect, sportivity, fair-play.
This is a mockery to all the watchers, supporters, fans, beting houses, investers, sponsors and so on.
This is a non-combat entirely unjustified.
This is Magnus Carlsen abusing to his fame and a Nepo frighten to be beaten again.
Shame on Magnus Carlsen for treating this event like his own private afair, and shame for FIDE to accepting it. Magnus should go away if he is so bored of chess - he is great, but fair-play is greater.
Shame for Nepomiatchi for accepting it, i think he could finaly win a title without accepting that pathetic, turnishing proposal. But i have a bit of simpathy for him, he was indeed deserving a title like this (and this could be the interior motif of Carlsen, but i doubt, because he proved many time he is egocentric, like in the case of poor Nieman, who proved he is a real, very good player - btw, congrats for him for beating that image of lack of fair play in chess, called Nakamura).
FIDE, PLEASE DO NOT THIS AGAIN!
Agree totally. What a shame
Carlsen trolling fide yet again lol
Wtf you talking about?
MAGNUS CONTROLS FIDE
And why not?.. he IS chess
no, more like Magnus and Fide hate each other and are constantly doing things to undermine each other's legitimacy
@@B-fq7ff lol I was making fun of Hans Niemann. that was his tweet, I don't think Magnus controls FIDE
@@PowertotheHIGHIQPeopleIndia is chess, without India chess is nothing, Gukesh has more fans than Magnus in 1 month😂
NYPD decides FIDE Blitz WCC 2024!
Magnus Goatsen owns Fide and Hans
Magnus just wants to go party for New Years!!
@@PowertotheHIGHIQPeople If he can annoy Hans in the process that’s just a bonus.
@ yea yea
FIDE lost their nerve with Magnus after Jeansgate
What is this bro…
Magnus not only defends, he recruits a co-defender, his new bestie Ian Nepomniachtchi!
Usually there's only tied 1st on day 1, the power of friendship knows no end. Amazing.
What happened to the fight on Wesley So's board?
We got split 1st place before GTA 6
Maybe they did it for the memes of "before gta6" 😂😂 jk
That 7 win run by Mags was pure flow, no hard thinking
Brings back a best new year's memory: a Ku'damm nightclub 1978 (open all night;16-yr-olds welcome) - a complete warzone of fireworks. I stepped into the middle of the street amidst horizontally-fired rockets, retrieving a 2 1/2" cubical twine-wrapped UXB (unsafely disposed of later).
turns out the women's final had more balls than FIDE
Playing more isnt relevant to makin rules
Maybe women had more ball than Magnus and Nepo. Still isnta about balls, its about something they wanted. I mean, looking and thinking properly, not thinking about opinions and Fide itself is actually having balls instead of just followin rules, in a bad way obviously
spoiler alert: nobody won, final two players quit early
Real rivalry right there and respect
What’s wrong with sharing after unable to defeat each other for 7+ rounds? In high jump after 3 failed attempts you can share
this isn’t high jump, it makes no sense to have 2 world chess champions. Imagine ding and gukesh both being classical world champion. What’s even worse is how they made the rule at the end of the match for no reason. It’s also terrible for the fans who were waiting to find out who would become the blitz world champion
Nothing is wrong, it happens even in Olympic games which is the highest level of competition. The chess community is just being pathetic and complaining like always.
In many other competitive games/sports even *discussing* the possibility of a draw with another player/team would be considered fixing. They could agree to a prize split, but anything that affects ratings/elo could be seen as protectionism/manipulating the elo of everyone else they played against. Clearly you can discover a draw while playing and that's a reasonable option but that makes for shitty viewing.
FIDE is a FILTHY JOKE!! Changing the RULES of TIEBREAKER are a DISGUSTING SELL-OUT by the FIDE clowns!!
@@719enterit's FIDE own fault not included Armageddon rules in tie breaker. Can't suddenly do Armageddon if it's not in the rules
I like the split. It's completely the choice of the players and Magnus has either directly or indirectly made even more statements against FIDE
It's a joke
"It's completely the choice of the players" 🤡🤡🤡
No it's not. If it were, then why did they need to request FIDE approval?
In 1907, Harry Pillsbury and Frank Marshall agreed to share first place in the U.S. Chess Championship rather than play a tiebreak match. This was particularly notable given Pillsbury's declining health at the time.
@@WilliamKiely neither of their health's were declining. And this was blitz chess not classical
This is NOT a PRIVATE match between TWO "jokes" in 1907!!
This is a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP with CLEAR RULES about TIEBREAKERS!!
But clowns like FIDE are DESTROYING Chess to fill their pockets!!
THERE IS NO CHAMP.
What a cop out man what's even the point
I liked the way we never got to find out who is world champion after days of competition. 👏
Time to unsubscribe from chess a bit. Shame what happened today. Feel bad for the ladies runner up. Two rules changed on the fly this week.
what happened with the ladies' runner up? did they change another rule?
Very clear that the players dont care about the spectators.
Most of the spectators on site don't care either, they talk during the games, yawn loudly or stretch even though they are only a meter away from the players. 4:45:43 One little boy falls asleep during the last game (not him to blame). The whole event does not feel like a world championship at all.
Ian with the title finally, so cool
New FIDE rule: Henceforth, if there are no clear winners after game 7, the top two players can declare themselves Joint World Champions ! How wonderful ! Let's do this for all future chess WCs: classical, rapid and blitz !
FIDE thinks everyone owes 5 hours to them just for nothing
Without Armageddon they can just agree to endless draws, so this seems fair
Thanks for Jan Gustaffson! So funny man. Bring him back for more English broadcasts please!
Joint winners but chess lost today....
❤️😍Sie ist vielleicht einfach die bescheidenste un herzerwärmendste Person, die es gibt❤❤️❤ 😍😍
Genuine question: were there any bookies taking bets on the outcome of this game? Does this mean they don’t have to pay out?
Magnus just felt sorry for Ian always coming second, plus it was just after midnight in Europe so that was another reason to call it quits lol.
Brilliant comeback by Ian!
The Canty - Gustafson banter is GREEEAATTT!!!! They said some really funny stuff ... Canty is ranty, but polite and professional deserving accolades as a commentator and Gustafson is knowingly irreverent and expectedly enjoying and characterizing developments in the conversations and never holds back in his incisive chess assessments that are far far too often correct. They both obviously still Love/appreciate good chess. With this understanding in mind I am LAUGHING at half the things they are saying. I LOVE these guys!!!! When can I watch them next??? I hope SOMEONE is listening!!! :) [Send me your hate mail at karthurbraden@gmail.com]
Jan, great to hear you back talking smack! : )
18:49 " We ALSO have the women's part of it TOO,AS WELL" lol I liked this one (something different,since the rest of the comments are gonna fight about the ending).
Everyone go check out the high jumping shared gold medal
I think it’s beautiful AND FIDE is incompetent btw
Pretty sure that was an actual rule though
this isn’t high jump, it makes no sense to have 2 world chess champions. Imagine ding and gukesh both being classical world champion. What’s even worse is how they made the rule at the end of the match for no reason. It’s also terrible for the fans who were waiting to find out who would become the blitz world champion
Quite different compared to sharing the 1st place in the chess championship. Drawing shouldn't result in sharing the 1st place in chess considering it's such a common occurence
2018 Carlsen and Mamedyarov shares title it's consistent rule.
Lol wtf did I just witness? All this time meticulously avoiding spoilers only to discover the match itself was the spoiler. But ya know, if FIDE can't manage to keep a feed of moves up for the world championship match, it shouldn't shock us they can't enforce a single one of their rules. *slow clap*
Il n'y a aucun champion du monde , la Fide crache au visage de millions de fan à travers le monde ni plus ni moins , si Carlsen n'avait pas été multiple champion du monde il n'aurait jamais fait une telle proposition et Nepo ne l'ayant jamais été a immediatement et tout aussi honteusement accepté de partager ce pseudo titre sans combattre .
Destruction of sports. It`s now two second places, but not two first places.
I think Magnus has feels for Ian's world loss in 2023.
Magnus, Ian, and FIDE are jokes for allowing this.
Naw man.. its New Years Eve!.. LETS PARTY!!
I mean Magnus and Ian are not to blame here. They can make the suggestion. It's up to Fide to say yes or no
Zero blame should go to Ian cause let's be honest, most players would've accepted the offer
If you want to blame someone, it was Magnus who offered it and it was FIDE who twisted the rules to allow it
Mostly falls into FIDE being at fault and at this point Magnus is just displaying FIDE's incompetence
HISTORY MADE!
The outcome is so peak 2024 … everyone is a winner, let’s just go home.
"only in chess"...it happens in the olympics aswell.
SHARING IS CARING!
HaPPY NEW YEAR!
Chess speak for itself!!
MAGNUS shares trophy with NEPO. While HIKARU crying in the corner.
5:13 Vichy photobomb
Summary:
After rules breaking stunt. Carlsen and Nepo pulled another stunt and fixed the blitz event outcome. Ju and Le showed professionalism and COMPETED until a winner is declared but was never appreciated by their efforts. Special mention to the idiots in the crowd who applauded the game fixing of Carlsen and Nepo.
As others have said this happened in the Olympics as well in mens high jump. They shared gold and both became champions!
Diabotical ! the Jeans gambits is crazy good
Lei tingjie right now : .....
😅😂
Magnus Carlsen vs. Hans Niemann 1:10:59
you're welcome ;)
So much better watching this with Canty and Gusty compared to the flashy nonsense over at take, take, take.
Not time just agree to a draw in the semi final so you can play with two people in the final vs one?
What was the point of the competion then? Why not to make every participant a winner from the very start?
Well done FIDE, you start 2025 with this crap... Good luck for the rest of the year 👍🏼😬
yeah, this is why previous format is much better... and more fun for sure. stupid FIDE.
im happy for Nepo though. love Magnus, the goat ❤
sharing gold is like kissin your sister .... its a kiss but you cant actually brag about it
Why are you kissing your sister? 😂
Jeans, no belt - not a good look. Some great chess played though!
I identify as a World chess blitz champion and agree to share 1st place.
Fide, when do u send me my money?
I think it's hilarious that people are mad the best 2 decide to share the title. Do smth about it yourself if you don't like it 😂😂
Carlsen's petulance is reaching Fischer proportions.
Changing the rules on the fly is never a good thing. Suppose someone suggests that it was all staged from the start.
Finally, I can say NEPO IS WORLD CHAMPION
A real sporting outcome. No armageddon so they could have played on and on and on
They played only three tie-breaks, not 13.
Could have @@jamesfolken3163
@@looper2129 Armageddon is not the solution. It was better to play at least 5-6 tie-breaks and then decide.
Magnus showing signs of weakness, he is not confident he can win. First classic chess, then Rapid and now Blitz.
I don't understand your comment.He clearly dominated whole year-2024 by winning 14 events. But u guys are haters or just hilarious.
Name me a player who won half those tournament numbers in this year.
@@shaktiprasadkv2807 yes. All haters lol
@@shaktiprasadkv2807 Don't be a blind Hero worshipper. If he played well before tournament, he got wins for it. But when he behaves like a coward during a tournament, he should be called a coward and arrogant.
After he stopped playing classical chess (Because he cant compete anymore ?) He suddenly cries wolf. Same with following simple rules in rapid. Now he doesn't want to play sudden death.
Loser all the way !! Don't support arrogant losers.
5:12:55 foreshadowing
So they both won ?
Yes
No they both lossed
Lol just do an armageddon game, give magnus white, give ian black, if magnus doesn't mate him Ian is champ. I agree the jeans thing was dumb but lol.... don't bend on this. Then again if the NYPD is saying get the heck out we have this building in 30 maybe they had no choice in the end?
FIDE not able to provide a functional stream once again... even in the blitz finale the board is lagging behind or wont show up. Happens all the time when they stream. How hard can it be? Really dissapointet by fide. Always these terrible technical failures. I'd be embarassed if i was them
FIDE getting trolled so hard is the story of 2024 😂😂😂
Maybe next year the top 8 could all share the title! Or maybe the top 100! Would save us having to watch all this boring chess. I definitely wasn't enjoying the tension of the sudden death 😢
I think that is fair enough for both of them !
CONGRATS TO THE WINNERS
Why are people so upset about this, seems reasonable.
So in many other sports/competitive games, you can agree to a prize split, but you can't actually get to a shared win without discussing that possibility with the other player or team, and that's considering fixing. It's protectionism/manipulation because it keeps your elo safe, and directly effects the elo/rank of everyone else you played that day.
Extend the logic to all the games, every player who showed up day 2 could have just agreed to draw to protect their rating, all placed "first", and there would have been no competition.
Good vibes aside. This is a specific carve out for the two leading players, who by definition colluded for a specific result outside of an actual game.
Regulations for the FIDE World Rapid & Blitz Championships 2024
4. 3. 2. 4. Tie-breaks
4. 3. 2. 4. 1. After a drawing of colours, one game with a time control of 3 minutes + 2 seconds increment per move, starting from move 1 shall be played to determine the winner.
4. 3. 2. 4. 2. If the game described in Article 4.3.2.4.1. is drawn, another game shall be played with a time control of 3 minutes + 2 seconds increment per move, starting from move 1 with the colours reversed from the previous game.
4. 3. 2. 4. 3. If the game described in Article 4.3.2.4.2. is drawn, the procedure described in Article 4.3.2.4.2. shall be repeated until the first game won by one of the players.
Regulations speak for themselves.
fide fell off so hard..
doing both tournaments on the same time is A HORRIBLE IDEA as well.
What an utter disgrace from Carlsen, Nepo and FIDE (breaking their own rules in a central matter), after some fantastic chess. In football cups players often endure MUCH more in overtime, than Carlsen and Nepo, and still no one would ever try to become something as silly as "shared winner" just to evade fighting for a decision: a complete and utter NO GO! Now we have two pathetic losers instead of one winner, and this disgrace will be a severe stain on both Carlsen's and Nepos reputation for the the rest of the year. And FIDE is just a laughing stock. I was with Magnus in the silly Jeans affair, but here he just completely lost my respect! And I really laugh at all the silly excuse efforts in this thread!
They would've continued to play drawish lines for every single continuing game if FIDE refused but the fact that Armageddon WASNT a part of the rules is completely baffling and also the reason for why this happened
@@Exerium0 They just played 3 tie breaks & the winner would have decided in the next few games so Armageddon was not really necessary. The fact is Magnus was too afraid if he could have lost.
@@Exerium0 Both the players and FIDE should have supported an Armageddon tiebreak - which in former times at least Magnus was always happy to accept, just to get a decision. FIDE has made a complete laughing stock of themselves by not having any tie break rule in place, and the players added to the disgrace by agreeing to a "shared win", effecteviely making two losers of themselves instead of one winner.