This Basketball Shoe is an Outdoor Monster

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • #basketballshoes #outdoors #sneakers
    Get the Li-Ning Jie Ao here:
    (Discount applied automatically with code tommyliu)
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    In this video we go over a very durable and outdoor friendly hoop shoe made by Li-Ning - the Jie Ao Low:
    Cushion: Light Foam Plus + BOOM
    Traction: TUFF OS outsole
    Material: Ultra Shell
    Pros: Durability, Lockdown
    Cons: Court Feel, Stiffness
    Let me know your thoughts on the Jie Ao in the comments! What are YOUR go-to outdoor shoes??
    Music Credits:
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    Instagram: @tommy_liu_4

КОМЕНТАРІ • 201

  • @TommyLiu4
    @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому +15

    What’s the most durable hoop shoe that you’ve used?? ⬇️

    • @ssk2319
      @ssk2319 12 днів тому +1

      Ac12 forsure

    • @KingLeonidas_300
      @KingLeonidas_300 12 днів тому

      Ja1

    • @shubhamd3843
      @shubhamd3843 12 днів тому +2

      Harden stepback 3

    • @nfssk8
      @nfssk8 12 днів тому +1

      Fission 9

    • @wickedhate2006
      @wickedhate2006 12 днів тому +1

      Certainly not the ac 11 upper separation and outsole got chipped, not even 1 month of use

  • @NugenEnigma
    @NugenEnigma 12 днів тому +28

    My goodness this design and colorway is absolutely amazing!🔥🔥🔥

    • @More-Sauce-Man
      @More-Sauce-Man 11 днів тому

      They should call it the T-rex colorway. Definitely some dino vibes.

  • @Wladislav
    @Wladislav 11 днів тому +5

    I'm not huge on the winged Li-Ning logo, but the rest of the shoe looks cool.

  • @DiegoRoman-g3c
    @DiegoRoman-g3c 10 днів тому +7

    You should do a review on the top 5 basketball socks

  • @philipchua3191
    @philipchua3191 12 днів тому +5

    i think this design and colorway is dope.

  • @YKYK33
    @YKYK33 11 днів тому +2

    if im buying this shoes and for the size is same as Lining Wade SOF? up to half size? May you please recommend me basketball socking?
    i think my comment got deleted by you from previous video that i did leave comment =)

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому +2

      Different - I go half size up in the Son of Flash, true to size in these. Nike elite socks, Way of Wade elite socks, tons of good options it depends on what type of socks you like to hoop in and what you can find locally. I don’t delete people’s comments buddy, that sounds pretty disrespectful if you know how much time I spend replying to comments lol.

    • @YKYK33
      @YKYK33 11 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4 thank you mr.tommy 🫰 🙇 and so sorry for about deleted my comment. I just found out where did I comment on your video lol. Sorry 🙏

  • @aeronzxccc5295
    @aeronzxccc5295 12 днів тому +4

    I've been using that shoes for 5 months it's freaking amazin

    • @RowansReviews210
      @RowansReviews210 7 днів тому

      @@aeronzxccc5295 how’s the cushion ? Good for casual wear? Tongue move around a lot ?

  • @oceancycloneblue5356
    @oceancycloneblue5356 11 днів тому +1

    Really wanted to try these but no size 14 available. I wish these chinese companies were better at making larger sizes easier to get.

  • @Η.Δ.Χ
    @Η.Δ.Χ 12 днів тому +2

    Liren 5 is coming, I hope you do a review

  • @Steve-xt2ze
    @Steve-xt2ze 12 днів тому +2

    perfect video. i been looking for outdoor specific shoes from china. I've given up on nike and most american brands other than New Balance.

  • @spidermace
    @spidermace 11 днів тому +2

    My go-to shoe was recommended by you. It is the Fission 8. You stated that the 8 is a better performer than the 9 was. I also have the All-City 12. The design on that shoe is really pretty.

  • @shyguy811
    @shyguy811 11 днів тому +2

    I used to use my old gum sole PG1's for outdoor basketball and tennis. Held up fine, but the phylon was so dense that my knees and heels would hurt on hard landings. I recently got the Two Wxy V4 to be my outdoor shoes.

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому

      Nice I see, the TWO WXY V4 should do wonders for you! Lemme know how it goes 😃

    • @shyguy811
      @shyguy811 11 днів тому

      I like them so far, cushioned, but grippy. Your review saying they were one of your go to outdoor shoes made me decide to pick them up. I wanted the All City 12, but I'm an 11.5/12 depending on the brand and they only come in full sizes after 10.5. Wasn't sure if their 12 would fit.

  • @flowksss
    @flowksss 11 днів тому +3

    this beast look like a military tank

  • @tonicoldevidrio2995
    @tonicoldevidrio2995 11 днів тому +1

    Great review! Such a shame being so hard to get in my country (México)

  • @SaaminSanusi
    @SaaminSanusi 12 днів тому +2

    Thanks man I've been waiting for a video like this

  • @AyindeOmaruDamiano
    @AyindeOmaruDamiano 12 днів тому +1

    Hey is it possible that you can do a review sometime on the BadFive 4 shoes please?

  • @page1_cs
    @page1_cs 12 днів тому +1

    Is that a shoe or a tank? Nonetheless, it looks great!

  • @PoserBallin
    @PoserBallin 11 днів тому +1

    I went through 4 pairs of retired indoors shoes playing on ashvault courts this summer... A good way to cull the herd I guess. But these could be the next purchase, not hard on the eyes either.

  • @electroboy3861
    @electroboy3861 11 днів тому +1

    I thought i was the only dude who knew this, turns out nkt anymore

  • @lukepratti
    @lukepratti 12 днів тому +3

    thank you tommy! i might have to buy this one i am an outdoor basketball player most of the time and always looking for the best outdoor shoes. keep up the great content and i hope your family and you are well!

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      Thank you!! All the best to you and your family as well 🙏🙏 Have a great weekend!

  • @HeatLedgerKicks
    @HeatLedgerKicks 11 днів тому +1

    Looks nice. Durability seems incredible.

  • @christopherrm6384
    @christopherrm6384 11 днів тому +1

    Are these better outdoor shoes than AC 12 or Son of flash ?

  • @Anew451
    @Anew451 12 днів тому +2

    I wonder how the Li ning Badfive series compares to this one

  • @Andre72495
    @Andre72495 12 днів тому +1

    This or Asics Gel-Fastblaze? In my country this 2 shoes has the same price range

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      Pure durability wise this is even more ideal for outdoor use. The Asics are more comfortable so there is a tradeoff and it depends on your preference.

  • @ArtsbyLEO-n1i
    @ArtsbyLEO-n1i 7 днів тому

    Li-ning designers are absolutely destroying their rivals giving us fresh and unique beuty design Dwade shoes are beating the market as well

  • @DiegoRoman-g3c
    @DiegoRoman-g3c 10 днів тому +1

    I love your videos Tommy I have been subscribed for a year and a half keep it up

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  10 днів тому +1

      Thank you so much!! You’re a real one, much appreciate that 🙏🙏

  • @nixx7446
    @nixx7446 11 днів тому +1

    what a beaut!! deym!

  • @josephsurivong3192
    @josephsurivong3192 12 днів тому +1

    Well well well, that’s money out of my wallet lol. Thanks again for the fantastic review Tommy!

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      @@josephsurivong3192 🤛 Haha that’s me a lot of times… Appreciate you watching!!

  • @Christopher-bp9jo
    @Christopher-bp9jo 12 днів тому +1

    Believe it or not my outdoor go to is my kd13, durable outsole and zoom strobel can’t go wrong lol

  • @PhucHoang-hx1vi
    @PhucHoang-hx1vi 8 днів тому

    feel like this is Lining teaching Nike how to Gt Cut 2 it right

  • @RowansReviews210
    @RowansReviews210 7 днів тому

    Could anyone let me know if the tongue feels stiff

  • @mannykap7335
    @mannykap7335 12 днів тому +1

    Which are probably better for durability..Son of Flash or Jie Ao

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      @@mannykap7335 Jie Ao. Both are great for outdoors.

  • @luistheassassin
    @luistheassassin 11 днів тому +1

    thanks to you tommy ive bought 2 pairs on the 361quick pro, one for indoors one for outdoors. After a month or so i can confirm that the outsole thread, despite being shallow, has 0 damage. would you say the level of the quickpro cusgion wise? thanks

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому

      Nice 👍 I didn’t quite understand the question sorry.

    • @luistheassassin
      @luistheassassin 11 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4 if the cushion is similar to the 361quickpros

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому

      @@luistheassassin Oh no. Quick Pro has better cushion.

  • @RowansReviews210
    @RowansReviews210 8 днів тому

    Good for casual use ? $98 I’m tempted to

  • @seouleshoes
    @seouleshoes 11 днів тому +1

    Been watching the Jie Ao’s for awhile now. How would you say the cushion is overall? I feel that’s the only thing keeping me hesitant haha. Love the looks of both the highs and lows.
    Also, bought some JB2s for $160 and change through Poizon, might be worth checking out as far as saving a little! (Especially with Chinese shoe resell sites.)

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому +1

      👍👍 Decent cushion - not soft but responsive and there’s a pretty good bounceback.

    • @seouleshoes
      @seouleshoes 11 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4 I got you. How would you say they compare to say, the WOW Fission 9? I know those also have a light foam setup. I’m more big on impact protection haha.

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому +1

      @@seouleshoes Pretty similar those two. Fission 9 feels softer on feet.

    • @hoemey
      @hoemey 8 днів тому

      ​@@TommyLiu4 How do you think this will fare for above the rim players? Taking a lot of landings from high up on concrete court. Worried about taking too much of a beating.

  • @hoco27
    @hoco27 9 днів тому +1

    Finally a shoe for Taergaryans!!!

  • @kermitlikesmemes9417
    @kermitlikesmemes9417 11 днів тому

    these look like hiking shoes, I bet they last a lifetime!

  • @oliverdychingco9865
    @oliverdychingco9865 12 днів тому +2

    Fission 9 or Jie Ao?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      Fission 9 for comfort. These will be even more durable.

  • @SelarZ
    @SelarZ 11 днів тому +1

    More comfort than ac12 ?

  • @dmapes159
    @dmapes159 11 днів тому +1

    Dang!!! Those look fire!

  • @philamguambomb
    @philamguambomb 12 днів тому +3

    I agree. Jie Ao low is an outdoor shoes and love it I have 4 pairs and they are my go to shoes. I use them to play pickleball and they are perfect for my play style(speed and aggressive). I play a minimum of 4 hours a day. I give these shoes 9/10. Only shoes better than these are the LiRen 3. I have 4 pairs of those too 😂😂. LiRen 3 are a little more comfortable that's all.

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому +1

      Wow that many pairs eh 😮👍👍

    • @RowansReviews210
      @RowansReviews210 7 днів тому

      @@philamguambomb does the tongue love around a lot while wearing ? Want a pair for casual use

    • @philamguambomb
      @philamguambomb 7 днів тому +1

      @@RowansReviews210 it stays place. No issues with that

    • @RowansReviews210
      @RowansReviews210 7 днів тому

      Any flaws in your experience?

    • @RowansReviews210
      @RowansReviews210 7 днів тому

      @@philamguambomb also out of ur 4 pair any with quality issues ? I’ve seen pictures where the tongue looks crooked or different side to side

  • @RowansReviews210
    @RowansReviews210 8 днів тому

    Does the tongue stay in place nicely ?

  • @ja1varado
    @ja1varado 11 днів тому +1

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS HE DID IT

  • @alfaeology
    @alfaeology 12 днів тому +1

    The official Li Ning here only sell badminton stuf

  • @christopherrm6384
    @christopherrm6384 11 днів тому +1

    Nice review

  • @unli-buckets
    @unli-buckets 11 днів тому +1

    do a review on player1 plus

  • @yuryjudaholiveirafranco6705
    @yuryjudaholiveirafranco6705 9 днів тому

    Hello, I wanted to know your opinion about the Li-Ning Liren 3 Team sneaker. This sneaker appears to be from the same line as the Li-Ning Liren 3 V2. But it looks like this sneaker is shaped like the KD 4

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  9 днів тому

      @@yuryjudaholiveirafranco6705 Hi, never tried the team version.

  • @mikedonovan-3808
    @mikedonovan-3808 10 днів тому

    Well I STILL havent heard of them yet !!!
    Cant understand a word you said.
    Bur ikl take a number # 34 with extra soy sauce

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  10 днів тому +2

      You is cash or card cash pay serty pacent off

  • @seeneilsenako
    @seeneilsenako 11 днів тому

    How would you compare it against Li Ning BadFive in terms of outdoor performance?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому

      I never had a pair from the Bad Five series actually, just can’t dig the look 😂 Maybe I’ll give it a try!

  • @mair5415
    @mair5415 8 днів тому

    Which do you think is better puma all clyde pros, all pro nitro, trc blaze court, or gt cut academy? (outdoor performance)

  • @nunobone
    @nunobone 10 днів тому

    I have the badfive 3 and it's still great. Mostly used outdoors.

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  10 днів тому

      @@nunobone Nice! How are they comfort and cushion wise?

  • @jchung1506
    @jchung1506 11 днів тому +1

    Thanks Tommy.

  • @sdsdsd-v3b
    @sdsdsd-v3b 11 днів тому

    Ankunding Avenue

  • @melomelo2636
    @melomelo2636 12 днів тому +2

    Looks fire bro!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @calcifercrimsonmadness9723
    @calcifercrimsonmadness9723 7 днів тому

    ive been seeing this shoe for a year or two now and it's the 1st time I see someone reviewed it. and, compared to the bad five series which one is better?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  7 днів тому

      Don’t have the BadFive’s

  • @NarutoFan203
    @NarutoFan203 10 днів тому

    so recently i've had a issue where in my precision 6's and air force 1's everytime I run or try to hoop. My feet start hurting a lot mainly the bottom, ankle, and front half of my feet. So I wanted to ask what shoes do you recommend as a budget shoe, personally I was thinking the Giannis Immortality 4 or GT Cut Academy. Thoughts?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  10 днів тому

      Both are great, if your feet are wider than average try the Immortality 4 😃

    • @NarutoFan203
      @NarutoFan203 10 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4 alright, thank you so much

  • @zomgitsgabe1687
    @zomgitsgabe1687 10 днів тому

    That colorway is 🔥🔥🔥 might grab these for outdoor use for sure

  • @zlong4000
    @zlong4000 12 днів тому +3

    You change video format?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому +2

      @@zlong4000 EQLZ you want long or short?

    • @MangaSword8
      @MangaSword8 12 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4i want it long 😩

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      @@MangaSword8🫣Aight

    • @tri897
      @tri897 12 днів тому

      ​@@MangaSword8 im not seeing enough "that's what she said" comments in here

  • @jupiterchua
    @jupiterchua 8 днів тому

    Dragon!

  • @douss11
    @douss11 День тому

    well, I am 11.5 nike, so i should go size 12 or size 11?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  День тому

      @@douss11 12 to be safe.

  • @jsmsrawr6292
    @jsmsrawr6292 8 днів тому

    I was literally waiting for someone to review this shoes.

  • @kenv2667
    @kenv2667 11 днів тому

    I wonder how is this compared to LiNing BadFive 3

  • @charlielin2514
    @charlielin2514 9 днів тому

    Try the liRen 5 low I'm pretty sure they are out now

  • @Andesyte6
    @Andesyte6 11 днів тому

    its that time of the week, TOMMY UPLOADS

  • @Theonlywayzx
    @Theonlywayzx 9 днів тому

    Great vid as always man, do you think you could review the Liren 5 low. I was planning on getting the 4 v2 but wanted to hold off after I saw the 5 came out.

  • @deanbernard2024
    @deanbernard2024 12 днів тому +1

    for me its the lebron witness 7

  • @Hold19890530
    @Hold19890530 12 днів тому +1

    JieAo both high/low top are already down to around 400RMB/56USD at Chinese webshop,so base on the performance is really friendly for low budget user😊

    • @Christopher-bp9jo
      @Christopher-bp9jo 12 днів тому

      What’s the website?

    • @Hold19890530
      @Hold19890530 11 днів тому

      @@Christopher-bp9jo Such as Taobao & JD & PDD😁

    • @Hold19890530
      @Hold19890530 11 днів тому

      @@Christopher-bp9jo TB/JD/PDD

    • @Hold19890530
      @Hold19890530 11 днів тому

      @@Christopher-bp9jo Chinese online shopping platform,YT banned the name😅

  • @justinejhessdomenden7389
    @justinejhessdomenden7389 11 днів тому

    Bruh make a review of Anta Swagger

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому

      Yes got a pair on the way.

  • @DeJuanCrawford-t6b
    @DeJuanCrawford-t6b 11 днів тому

    Been wanting these for a while now, these and the chameleon colorway. Only problem was aside from a couple reddit posts there were no English reviews on youtube yet, only in Chinese.
    Are these comfortable enough that the better durability puts it over the Fission 9 for outdoors? Those are easy to find for cheap, though the nicer colorways seem to be running out of stock, maybe their production is slowing in preparation for the Fission 10. If the Fission 9s were better looking I would have picked them up long ago lol.

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому

      Yes that’s the tradeoff. Not as comfy as the Fission 9, but even far more durable. You can also decide based on your foot shape, since these run much narrower than the Fission 9.

    • @DeJuanCrawford-t6b
      @DeJuanCrawford-t6b 11 днів тому

      @TommyLiu4 would going half size up for some extra room introduce heel slippage? Or is the heel padding and lockdown good enough that we can get away with half size up?
      Oh and I'm sure everyone would love it if you made tier lists of all the shoes you've reviewed every month. I know you have the top 5, top 10 videos, but the shoes that get left off won't get much shine. Helps us compare them head to head as well.

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому

      @@DeJuanCrawford-t6b Sure it should be fine. Thanks will do one soon 🙏

  • @Encai.
    @Encai. 4 дні тому

    Which ones do u think is better son of flash 1 or jie ao? I really like the design of both

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  4 дні тому

      Yes and both are great for outdoor use! Comes down to your preference - I like the Son of Flash more.

    • @Encai.
      @Encai. 3 дні тому

      What's the difference? ​@@TommyLiu4

  • @anthonynamtran
    @anthonynamtran 11 днів тому

    Can you do the j-lin5?

  • @deosimsuangco9012
    @deosimsuangco9012 12 днів тому +1

    Second❤

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      @@deosimsuangco9012 ☕️

  • @JoeBoy1056
    @JoeBoy1056 11 днів тому

    Hi again, can you recommend for me.
    3 and D
    Have also mid range pull up jumpers. No shifty movements but can run basic lay ups.
    Seeing my playstyle morelike klay thompson type

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому +1

      Hi. TWO WXY V5.

    • @JoeBoy1056
      @JoeBoy1056 11 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4 reading some of your comments from the NB video, you prefer the hesi low for guards. In the NB website the hesi lows are $10 cheaper, would you still prefer this for my playstyle or should i get the hesi low instead?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому +1

      @@JoeBoy1056 Yes I prefer the HESI LOW V2. Based on your description the TWO WXY’s are the first shoe that comes to mind. Both are excellent options there’s no bad choice there.

    • @JoeBoy1056
      @JoeBoy1056 11 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4 Thank you so much. Appreciate that you take time to answer comments. 👊

  • @livingtonu
    @livingtonu 12 днів тому +2

    Somehow Rebellion and China shouldn't be used in the same sentence.

  • @ykthunderous2361
    @ykthunderous2361 11 днів тому

    My current go to outdoor pairs: Nxxt Gens, Harden 6s& 808 3. All have held up really well against the gritty outdoors. Got em all on discount too so it's super value for money.

  • @chiqchiq95
    @chiqchiq95 11 днів тому

    the design looks like my fave dino, the stegosaurus! Thanks for another good vid, I never would've known about this model without your video! Definitely will cop this on a sale if I can in my area

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  11 днів тому

      @@chiqchiq95 Appreciate you watching! Cheers to possibly another pair together haha 🤛🦖

  • @heat_collector8698
    @heat_collector8698 9 днів тому

    That LeBron Ambassador 13 reference helps! Thanks.

  • @oliverxu9164
    @oliverxu9164 6 днів тому

    Jie ao vs badfive 3?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  6 днів тому

      @@oliverxu9164 I don’t have the Badfive’s sorry.

  • @AoplusYT
    @AoplusYT 12 днів тому +1

    Tommyliu are these better than the lining liren 4 v2?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      No but they’re more durable.

    • @AoplusYT
      @AoplusYT 12 днів тому

      Thank you!

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      @@AoplusYT 🤛

    • @AoplusYT
      @AoplusYT 12 днів тому +1

      I know it doesn’t matter much with the brand, but : do you prefer puma all pro nitro, scoot 1 or stewie3?
      Thank you!

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      @@AoplusYT All Pro Nitro

  • @verrirt3211
    @verrirt3211 12 днів тому +3

    Hi Tommy! I think you can go for longer vids man. These reviews seem short. We know you have so much more to say about these shoes. 🤙🤙

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      Hello 😁 Thanks for your advice!!

  • @ma2uaa
    @ma2uaa 12 днів тому +1

    FIRST

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому +1

      Fast 💯

    • @ma2uaa
      @ma2uaa 12 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4I love your videos, they’re so helpful! 🙏🙏

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому +1

      @@ma2uaa Thank you!! Appreciate you watching 🤛

  • @harrymejia205
    @harrymejia205 5 днів тому

    This or wow 808 or wade 10

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  5 днів тому

      @@harrymejia205 Did you mean Way of Wade 10? Nothing beats the WOW 10 to me.

    • @harrymejia205
      @harrymejia205 8 годин тому

      @@TommyLiu4wait what abt 11

  • @arbicus3297
    @arbicus3297 11 днів тому

    the colourway you got is tuff 🔥🔥

  • @EyanDeyv
    @EyanDeyv 11 днів тому

    Yep, I already ordered this already. And yes they are the best outdoor shoe by far.

    • @RowansReviews210
      @RowansReviews210 8 днів тому

      Comfy?

    • @EyanDeyv
      @EyanDeyv 8 днів тому +1

      @@RowansReviews210 for me yes, the feels for this is really for outdoor, good impact protection while being low to the ground. Traction’s a beast.

  • @CornyShawny
    @CornyShawny 12 днів тому +1

    Would you say this is better than the all city 12s?

    • @TommyLiu4
      @TommyLiu4  12 днів тому

      For outdoor use only yes. Otherwise close but I wouldn’t say better - no.

    • @CornyShawny
      @CornyShawny 12 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4 ❤❤

    • @CornyShawny
      @CornyShawny 9 днів тому

      @@TommyLiu4 Then do you think it's better than son of flash?