It was really hard to know when things happened tbh. Especially since some clips are shown twice and I honestly thought the first clips were already after the orisa nerf since its been so long ago
Anyone else notice the most perfect shatter block at 6:10?? I had to rewatch it like 5 times and get a friend to see it to realize Cloudy blocked the shatter and it wasn't a weird bug with that doorway. You can't get a more perfect block than that, you don't even see the shield pull up on Cloudy's POV, you just barely see the button tap and the camera move for it with the shield taking damage. Absolutely insane, I aspire to be even a tenth of as good as Cloudy on Rein
And also the big samoan man that looks like Maui that make my shield go bye bye and cancel my charge and burns me and outheals my hammer swings and blocks off my supports with his ult and AHHHHHHHHHHH
@@italo-hungariananimation2149 welp you can actually deal with them easily with practice that’s mostly a diamond issue cuz you don’t know how to deal with them the reason for me orisa is the worst is because I cannot outplay someone that only needs to put a triangle inside a triangle to win
@@andrewp.1358 feel it, some times to me it’s ez win sometimes it’s just joever against that guy depends on map and both team comps on how it plays out against the rock guy
I love how Orisa is one of the most hated character but they kept buffing her over and over again. she's not well designed for the game and should either be deleted or reworked again
While I agree she's definitely annoying and the buffs were excessive I feel like people need to stop saying what's "healthy" for the game, characters move in and out of meta a ton, I wouldn't call Reinhardt unhealthy for the game if he became hard meta for a bit he just needs to be toned down eventually
Honestly I think she just needs to be tweaked, move her away from being a stat check. One thing they could do to make her more fair to Rein without making her totally unplayable is to remove her critbox altogether and reduce her health. (Might not work, just an idea.)
@@sebastianrodriguez8992 I'm not against having certain metas. Its just that Orisa has been so good for so many seasons. Sometimes she got buffs when she was actually fine.
@@misterrosen3237 I do agree she overstayed her welcome I just hate hearing people want to flat out delete a character for their idea of a healthy game
@@sebastianrodriguez8992 the thing is that before the nerf playing orisa vs orisa was a coin flip on whos team is better, a rein mirror or a rein meta in general requires the rein player to hit pins and know when to engage, the new orisa design was being a tier 3 torb turret inmune to cc and dmg with infinite range that the only requirements you need to play her were cycling 3 cooldowns that are horrible to play against as any character, not only rein, this has been better overall for tanks, now the second most annoying tank is dva, but at least dva cant stun you from 70 meters away and snipe you like widow, she has counter picks/ways to play around her, so is not as bad as before
I'm gonna miss the next patch unfortunately (military), but I really think Rein might be crazy with the armor changes if they don't nerf his damage, lol
This video format is so good! I love a good story with the occasional voice over and the smooth editing. Especially the music, it always fits perfectly. Would love to see more!
i'm a zar main, so i know only a little about rein from what i've tried, but how would rein mains feel if they buffed firestrike to ignore damage reduction? giving rein two cd's to pacify DR (doom (block), orisa (fort), ram (big), ball, mauga (run), etc. i don't think any tank in the game should feel bullet proof in front of a rein
Just before the Orisa nerfs i played some QPs with a friend (don´t play ranked that often anymore but i´m around dia to low masters as support skill wise) and we had some really disturbing matches. When 1 of the tanks died once or twice in a row they didnt try to analyse what went wrong and what could be done better next fight, but instead just swaped to Orisa. Then the other Tank dies once or twice and also switches to Orisa. I don´t know why they don´t just play the tank they want to play and swap of almost immediately to Orisa because they got outplayed one,two maybe three times (it´s fucking QP after all). One other game they agreed in chat for Rein mirror on Kings Row, in my opinion one of the most fun maps to play Rein vs Rein. Enemy Rein got outplayed once and died a second time to a mistake he made. You can guess what happend next :D swap to Orisa, our Rein died the first time and also swaps Orisa. That behavior is just honorless especially in a QP when there is nothing to lose. Like Cloudy said, Orisa is just the devil of OW.
Legitimate question guys. How do u climb with rein when u face a bastion, cassidy, ana and either a hog/orisa? Everytime I play rein in comp the enemy team swaps after two team fights to a comp of some combination listed above. Also my supports are usually always either lifeweaver, mercy or moira in some combination. I haven’t lost a rein mirror but after like 3 team fight losses the enemy team switches up their team comp to counter me😢
Honestly that's just what playing rein is, if you start to dominate they go straight for the counter, just gotta learn how to play against the counters. Best tip I can give is play slower, play cover, try to bait out cool down, and just wait for opportunities to make plays
Cloudy, for better clarity of your voiceover, and general pacing, perhaps you could darken, blur, or vignette on the sections when you are telling the story rather than gameplay? could give your new format more strength
@@Mitsu852it is, people just gotta start admitting when they lost, regardless of how you feel about em orisa isn't as strong as she was and if your still loosing you eventually gotta admit that's on you
@@Mitsu852 it's delusional if you seriously can never admit you aren't that good and lost for a reason But hey ig that's just how ow players are right?
@@sebastianrodriguez8992Orisa just feels unkillable. Fortify is such a bs thing too. And her entire kit is geared towards countering Reinhardt specifically.
I think Orisa should be anchored unable to move in fortify. Make Orisa players have to learn cooldown management same goes for hog heals. This is a spicy take maybe.
Why hog heals?, hog is good against rein, but against any other tank he is horrible, not to mention that with the armor changes hog is gonna be a lot worse against many close range tanks, meanwhile rein would have a headshot dmg reduction and his armor now would be incredibly good against hog gun, tbh dva is far more annoying to deal with as rein than hog
@@germanluque9756 hog has 800hp and the most squishy one shot potential, if hog is the master of punishing positioning, it’s only right that he has to be punishable if he can’t position himself to heal. Also hog with damage reduction on heals plus headshot damage will make him insane i have no idea what ur on about. With a Kiri on him he will be unkillable + his ult deletes rien guaranteed every time.
@@germanluque9756 Hog is devastating against positional tanks like Rammatra and Sigma. He can hook them away from their teams and completely gank them.
If anyone plays Orisa they have no skill. It’s a stupid character and for some reason keeps getting buffed. My boy Rein has been GURTING for seasons lol
@@iPhenomenal27the only good argument I’ve heard against 6v6 is Eskay’s argument that most multiplayer fps are 5v5 so esports facilities aren’t set up for 6v6 formats. There’s also the idea that if they switch back to 6v6 overwatch 2 is literally just the same game as overwatch 1, but the dev’s being unable to swallow their pride is hardly a good argument, just an explanation.
any feedback how did u guys enjoy new way of formatting the video : D
It was amazing, felt like a movie man
Loved this format, seeing the storyline was very fun
Was awesome Mr Cloudy
Copying kraan 👍🏻
It was really hard to know when things happened tbh. Especially since some clips are shown twice and I honestly thought the first clips were already after the orisa nerf since its been so long ago
That sequence with the orisa montage gave me anxiety
yes lol i quit rein 5 seasons ago but i still remember that feeling
At least it wasn’t ptsd
Anyone else notice the most perfect shatter block at 6:10?? I had to rewatch it like 5 times and get a friend to see it to realize Cloudy blocked the shatter and it wasn't a weird bug with that doorway. You can't get a more perfect block than that, you don't even see the shield pull up on Cloudy's POV, you just barely see the button tap and the camera move for it with the shield taking damage. Absolutely insane, I aspire to be even a tenth of as good as Cloudy on Rein
its called a 1 frame
Cloudy is the Goat at the 1 frame blocks.
the horse is the only thing stopping rein players from dominating the game
and orisa stonks finally keep dropping its out time to reinbro it out
Orisa is way less annoying to deal with as Rein compared to a Bastion , Zen Ana.. It's a nightmare
And also the big samoan man that looks like Maui that make my shield go bye bye and cancel my charge and burns me and outheals my hammer swings and blocks off my supports with his ult and AHHHHHHHHHHH
@@italo-hungariananimation2149 welp you can actually deal with them easily with practice that’s mostly a diamond issue cuz you don’t know how to deal with them the reason for me orisa is the worst is because I cannot outplay someone that only needs to put a triangle inside a triangle to win
@@andrewp.1358 feel it, some times to me it’s ez win sometimes it’s just joever against that guy depends on map and both team comps on how it plays out against the rock guy
I love how Orisa is one of the most hated character but they kept buffing her over and over again. she's not well designed for the game and should either be deleted or reworked again
While I agree she's definitely annoying and the buffs were excessive I feel like people need to stop saying what's "healthy" for the game, characters move in and out of meta a ton, I wouldn't call Reinhardt unhealthy for the game if he became hard meta for a bit he just needs to be toned down eventually
Just replace fortify
Honestly I think she just needs to be tweaked, move her away from being a stat check. One thing they could do to make her more fair to Rein without making her totally unplayable is to remove her critbox altogether and reduce her health. (Might not work, just an idea.)
@@sebastianrodriguez8992 I'm not against having certain metas. Its just that Orisa has been so good for so many seasons. Sometimes she got buffs when she was actually fine.
@@misterrosen3237 I do agree she overstayed her welcome I just hate hearing people want to flat out delete a character for their idea of a healthy game
6:12 This man didn't even need to do a Frame 1 block on the Shatter, but he did it anyways. He wanted to send a message. What a chad.
People who play orisa should have their ranks revoked.
It's already happening, people who abused orisa for easy win are gonna drop in sr now. Since they cant abuse the free sr hero anymore
@@sinofpride6486 lol true
To be fair people are always gonna abuse meta, if Reinhardt becomes meta everyone's gonna play TF out of him for wins like anything else
@@sebastianrodriguez8992 the thing is that before the nerf playing orisa vs orisa was a coin flip on whos team is better, a rein mirror or a rein meta in general requires the rein player to hit pins and know when to engage, the new orisa design was being a tier 3 torb turret inmune to cc and dmg with infinite range that the only requirements you need to play her were cycling 3 cooldowns that are horrible to play against as any character, not only rein, this has been better overall for tanks, now the second most annoying tank is dva, but at least dva cant stun you from 70 meters away and snipe you like widow, she has counter picks/ways to play around her, so is not as bad as before
@@germanluque9756 but the meta would be fun and not braindead
I'm gonna miss the next patch unfortunately (military), but I really think Rein might be crazy with the armor changes if they don't nerf his damage, lol
good luck with everything g
You Gon miss the glorious rise of Reinhardt
19:20 that sound tracks sounds like i'm in the loading screen for tarkov
This video format is so good! I love a good story with the occasional voice over and the smooth editing. Especially the music, it always fits perfectly. Would love to see more!
I like how volatile isn't even a modifier on the infographic
13:41 Holy, bro got stacked on
One can only go through so much agony, you’re a mad man cloudy!
13:49 I'm not going to deny, that made me laugh
Like damm man poor ball
4:25 any one else who noticed the timing of the hammerswing and the music
this might be the best LHCLOUDY yt vid !
This is like the Citizen Kane of Overwatch
The oirsa Montage is beautiful. Painful, but beautiful
Standing ovation for brock1080p for this epic edit \(i-i)/
Cool video LHCloudy27
Ok that 1 frame was honestly the nastiest thing I've seen all year.
Cool opinion vitungoggeli
thank you for reminding me that you can finally change your google handle
It’s insane Orisa has been as insane as she is for so long
I know people love talking about Rein, but can we talk about the amount of Winston in games? It's insane.
Winston’s not a problem tho
This is an epic saga greater than Beowulf
For me the number one fun blockers are Ana Weaver. Feels like they just save every cooldown to deny me.
The voices are telling me delete orisa 😭
better to be a masters rein player than to ever be a GM orisa player
"OVERWATCH LEAGUE IN MASTAAAAHHHHS?!" -Metro
reinbros be thriving
Another classic from my glorious king lhcloudy27
the fall and rise and fall and rise
i'm a zar main, so i know only a little about rein from what i've tried, but how would rein mains feel if they buffed firestrike to ignore damage reduction? giving rein two cd's to pacify DR (doom (block), orisa (fort), ram (big), ball, mauga (run), etc. i don't think any tank in the game should feel bullet proof in front of a rein
Great video thanks for sharing and giving us hope 👏
6:10 is beautiful.
has cloudy ever played orisa before, she looks strong
our suffering is finally over.
I just imagine Young Girl A starts playing the moment Orisa gets nerfed.
Just before the Orisa nerfs i played some QPs with a friend (don´t play ranked that often anymore but i´m around dia to low masters as support skill wise) and we had some really disturbing matches. When 1 of the tanks died once or twice in a row they didnt try to analyse what went wrong and what could be done better next fight, but instead just swaped to Orisa. Then the other Tank dies once or twice and also switches to Orisa. I don´t know why they don´t just play the tank they want to play and swap of almost immediately to Orisa because they got outplayed one,two maybe three times (it´s fucking QP after all).
One other game they agreed in chat for Rein mirror on Kings Row, in my opinion one of the most fun maps to play Rein vs Rein. Enemy Rein got outplayed once and died a second time to a mistake he made. You can guess what happend next :D swap to Orisa, our Rein died the first time and also swaps Orisa. That behavior is just honorless especially in a QP when there is nothing to lose. Like Cloudy said, Orisa is just the devil of OW.
all rein need is speed. remove speed limitation when shielding and the horse will cry
Bad shatta bad shatta
Legitimate question guys. How do u climb with rein when u face a bastion, cassidy, ana and either a hog/orisa? Everytime I play rein in comp the enemy team swaps after two team fights to a comp of some combination listed above. Also my supports are usually always either lifeweaver, mercy or moira in some combination. I haven’t lost a rein mirror but after like 3 team fight losses the enemy team switches up their team comp to counter me😢
Honestly that's just what playing rein is, if you start to dominate they go straight for the counter, just gotta learn how to play against the counters. Best tip I can give is play slower, play cover, try to bait out cool down, and just wait for opportunities to make plays
3:18 The audacity to name yourself after the goat Whitebeard and then play Orisa... unbelievable
What is that hammer, it looks great
6:10 🔥
amazing watching the gigachad grind
GGGG man. How many hours do you have in ow total?
Cloudy, for better clarity of your voiceover, and general pacing, perhaps you could darken, blur, or vignette on the sections when you are telling the story rather than gameplay? could give your new format more strength
hey cloudy, this video is very good i have watch i 3 time no joke and go back up on overwatch as one one trick cause of that
Orisa is still OP despite the “nerf”. Can Blizzard do anything right?
Why is there a diffrence between your voice from recorded and streaming?
you using the same microphone right?
Little did they know, Orisa would be buffed again because her cc wasn't that "impactful".
I still think orisa is good after the nerfs just not as dominate as before. But after she nerfed ive been seeing rein more and more
How does one puss out of the honorable Rein duel and become an Orisa? That's just sad
AYOO WTF
6:10
Why did you not get shattered by that?
frame perfect shield pull up
amazing truely
Sick video
Can‘t wait for the unranked to GM!
Orisa is now nerfed. We are free Clueless
Not even close to enough nerfs
@@Mitsu852it is, people just gotta start admitting when they lost, regardless of how you feel about em orisa isn't as strong as she was and if your still loosing you eventually gotta admit that's on you
@@sebastianrodriguez8992 avg delusional take. Orisa still dominates as a versatile pic against a lot of tanks.
@@Mitsu852 it's delusional if you seriously can never admit you aren't that good and lost for a reason
But hey ig that's just how ow players are right?
@@sebastianrodriguez8992Orisa just feels unkillable. Fortify is such a bs thing too. And her entire kit is geared towards countering Reinhardt specifically.
my goat
love ur video music
You make Overwatch seem fun, then I log in and don't have fun. How dare you >:( Love your content though ♥
I think Orisa should be anchored unable to move in fortify. Make Orisa players have to learn cooldown management same goes for hog heals. This is a spicy take maybe.
Why hog heals?, hog is good against rein, but against any other tank he is horrible, not to mention that with the armor changes hog is gonna be a lot worse against many close range tanks, meanwhile rein would have a headshot dmg reduction and his armor now would be incredibly good against hog gun, tbh dva is far more annoying to deal with as rein than hog
@@germanluque9756 hog has 800hp and the most squishy one shot potential, if hog is the master of punishing positioning, it’s only right that he has to be punishable if he can’t position himself to heal.
Also hog with damage reduction on heals plus headshot damage will make him insane i have no idea what ur on about. With a Kiri on him he will be unkillable + his ult deletes rien guaranteed every time.
@@germanluque9756 Hog is devastating against positional tanks like Rammatra and Sigma. He can hook them away from their teams and completely gank them.
nice video
I Hope they will go back to 15% heall debuf and not 20%
0:54 i hope its photoshop and not a real screenshot
Having an orisa in a game makes it instantly zzzzzzzzz
Buff rein!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just a test. Are you texting me on discord?
hulk
All cuz of one Orisa nerf
woooooooooooooaaaaaaahhhhhhhh hypppeee
nice
geat video
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If anyone plays Orisa they have no skill. It’s a stupid character and for some reason keeps getting buffed. My boy Rein has been GURTING for seasons lol
Dude you streamers complain about getting volitile and losing 25% while I lose 40 when I get it
They also gain 20% when they have uphill battle with win streak
koska hot wings videoo ??
They really need to rework rein. Unless you are a pro, and I mean cloudy pro... rein lose every 1 vs 1
Not really
Rework rein? Bro just go back to 6v6 already
blizzard really is the kind of guy who would rework rein rather than just keeping 6v6 after fixing double shield lmfao
@@iPhenomenal27the only good argument I’ve heard against 6v6 is Eskay’s argument that most multiplayer fps are 5v5 so esports facilities aren’t set up for 6v6 formats.
There’s also the idea that if they switch back to 6v6 overwatch 2 is literally just the same game as overwatch 1, but the dev’s being unable to swallow their pride is hardly a good argument, just an explanation.
@@BananaWasTaken y'all talking about esports, lol the games dying. Tank role has become joke
Orisa is so fucking boring. How does someone play that character? It’s actually weird
Yeah reminds me of widow players... actually astonishing anybody touches her
WORST REIN PLAYER