Many people have visual sensitivity to high flicker rate and spectral push to the blue that is the nature of LEDs. CFLs and Fluorescent tubes are even worse because the 'ballast' involved also assaults the senses of some people more than others. Both kinds of light impress 'dirty electricity' onto the local branch circuit wiring, adding to one's sensitivity woes. This is a tough situation to be in, and still be traveling in public. At our house, my partner is electro-hypersensitive so has been effectively housebound for four years due to the pervasiveness of cell and WI-FI signals.
You should get high quality dimmable LED bulbs with a high CRI (90+). These bulbs usually produce no flicker (unless dimmed in some cases) and the warm white ones have a color almost like that of incandescent bulbs.
@@kengartner204CFLs do not flicker as they use electronic ballasts. Electronic ballasts convert the mains frequency (50/60 Hz) to a high frequency (typically around 20,000 Hz) to increase efficiency.
Thanks for the video. I switched back to incandescent lights when my wife suddenly couldn't sleep anymore. She was disabled for months, and switching away from LED bulbs helped her a lot.
Incandescent actually gives you health benefit too. You actually get some of the uv or whatever it is that comes from the sun, believe it or not. I heard it on Medcram
That makes perfect sense. LED lights are harsher on human biology than the incandescents. Do you know whether her problem was primarily with the spectrum/flicker (ie, it was an optical sensitivity) or was it the harmonics/transients put onto the wiring that triggered her most. Both are injurious to some people. ''Electrical Sensitivity' can manifest suddenly, more frequently in women ages 40-60. If that sounds relevant, look up research from Belpomme to see the symptoms as well.
LEDs are available for people that want them. Why cant incandescent lightbulbs be available for those who want them instead? LED light is cold, gives some people migraines and just so people know everybody can see all your imperfections under LED light.
I’m an interior designer and graphic artist etc. A good friend told me this would happen over 10 years ago and so I stocked up. I am already, on a daily basis, mourning the loss of the beautiful look of a twilight evening as street lamps turn on and car headlights begin to glow. It’s all LED now, it looks like a jail cell outside at twilight, walking down the sidewalk, or seeing the little cars drive-by with their robot cold blue white eyes. Humans need the glow.
I actually like LEDs, but the service life is nowhere near what they claim on the box. 10 years, 20 years, 50 years? Baloney in the last several years, I have had to replace many bulbs that failed prematurely.
The life expectancy on the box is an average life expectancy, not a minimum life expectancy, so whatever number that is, half of them would have burned out, and some of them will last longer. But you are correct, none of them ever last as long as they say. Then who guarantees your purchase? Nobody. A year or two you'll never find that exact LED bulb in the store anyway.
Recent quality LED lights are, in general, a great advancement over incandescent lights. Because of the energy savings I can have more lights on - especially during long winter evenings. Other that 1 bad batch of 40 watt LED bulbs several years ago, my other LED (and CFL) bulbs easily last 10x as long. I don't miss having to repair table lamps, fixtures, and wall switches due to the high current loads wearing out the electrical contacts. And I definitely don't miss the bulb blowing in the bathroom just as I'm getting ready to leave the house. I'd say that one reason why incandescent bulbs were banned is that those were the bulbs that dollar stores were stocking, so those who were less well off were paying a higher cost when factoring in electricity usage. The only downside I've seen with some LED fixtures is when they skip having a good diffuser so that we don't have to look at bright spots of light. I guess they think that looks modern, but that is one 'feature' that does hurt my eyes.
Dollar stores were selling LEDs long before the ban, and I don't know why people keep saying they weren't. LEDs are just too harsh for my eyes, don't dim well (flicker), don't last as long as claimed, and tend to give me severe headaches. Clear decorative LEDs are even worse you are looking directly at harsh, naked LED strips. By the way, a 43w (equals 60w) halogen bulb only uses $5.18 of energy for an entire year if used for 3hrs/day/everyday, so unless you are running hundreds of bulbs, the energy savings is negligible.
@@John-bs5ug If you buy LED bulbs that are cheap crap, you get what you pay for. Non flickering LEDs with excellent CRI and long life are available, and will save you enormous amounts of money. And no, the energy savings are not negligible, the savings are easily visible to the electric company, and your bills, power usage has gone down by about 10% or something like that since energy saving bulbs were released. One bulb isn't much, but the average house has scores of bulbs, and it adds up.
@@BooBaddyBig What brand of LEDs do you buy? I've tried GE's LED bulbs that claimed to have a 9 year lifespan, and they didn't even last as long as GE's double life halogens. Most started to flicker or become about 20% less bright after about 2 years of use. Years ago, I remember that there were some LEDs that claim to last as long as 22 years, but now I don't see anything with a stated life of more than 13 years (at 3 hours/day/every day). We only turn on 6 light bulbs for 6 hours a day, so we already don't spend much on electricity costs.
@@John-bs5ug philips, especially the ultra definition, excellent cri and dimmibility, almost replicating incandescent in every way with LED advantages, even the way it looks
@@GERALD_786 I tried those last month and they were quite odd. The package said it was 2700k, but the bulb said 2700-2200k. (What does that even mean?) After a week one of them turned yellow, and another died after three weeks.
I am so upset about the incandescent bulb ban! I always believe in the freedom of the USA. I have lost all hope at this point. The light produced by an Incandescent bulb is like no other. When the public reduces the amount of electricity they use. The rates will go up to make up the difference for the loss of revenue. So in the end the consumers will pay more on their power bill. I am not against LED lighting. I think they have a good purpose in some locations. LED light output reduces over time. I have found that 1 out of 8 will fail well before the estimated life span. If you have a series of several bulbs in a room and one does go out the new one will be much brighter than the old LED bulbs. This will require you to change all the bulbs to match. My best advise is if you want to continue to use incandescent bulbs... Put them on a dimmer. The life of the incandescent will last so much longer. This is what I have done on most of my incandescent bulbs. So far I am going on over 7 years on many of my incandescent bulbs on a dimmer. These bulbs are used for 6 hours a day in the evening.
@@dsolproductions It's an exponential function. If you want to go in the other direction, you can make an incandescent bulb burn bright as the sun by doubling the voltage. It'll last a few seconds and maybe a minute, but it will be glorious!
@@dsolproductions Just dimming it 10% will make it last 3000 hours. If you can get your hands on a incandescent made to run on 240V it will be half as bright but will outlast most led's
@@michaeldhondt368 interestingly enough many years ago I did bring back a 240 volt halogen bulb from Europe and put it in a normal bedside lamp, and it was quite a lovely warm dim glow. But it only lasted about 5 years of occasional use.
Reducing energy for electric lighting actually started under Jimmy Carter in 1977 with the creation of the Department of Energy. Street lights went to high pressure sodium, office lights went to fluorescent, and so on. Since then, we've reduced energy for lighting to only a few percentage points. Moreover, energy for lighting for residential homes is a very small amount of the total energy that we use. Now nobody needs a pair of 150W halogen floodlights guarding their back yard all night - LEDs are a great advantage. But the problem is that LEDs aren't a silver bullet for all residential lighting solutions, for example, there are no LED bulbs dim to warm as well as incandescents and give you that romantic, gokden glow after sunset. I support incandescent light bulbs for the home for say 60W and under.
I get migraine headaches from many LED bulbs, which are toxical for eyes. Technology is coming to a better end and some very expensive Philips ones are good to me. But I pay 90 cents for a chinese made incandescent and I fell good in my room.
Thanks for demonstrating this! I don't like LEDs! And especially now with it becoming such a political issue with the venerable incandescent bulb. It's goverment over reach.
Incandescent bulbs are easier to make allowing more people to construct them in small workshops or factories while LED bulbs are complex to make and you have to have advanced electronics to create blue LED diode.
I've lived in my home for 25 years. Not counting lamps, I have 50 bulbs in fixtures. At least 10 of the original 50 still work just fine. How many LEDs will still work 25 years from now? At 40 cents a bulb I think I got my moneys worth regardless of the energy cost. About 5 years ago I picked up 400 60 watters at 50 cents/bulb and changed all my switches to dimmers. Powering on an incandescent bulb at a dimmed state will greatly increase the life of your bulb. I'm not opposed to all LED lights, I have several specialty lights and I love light strips above and below cabinets & furniture. I am however opposed to government dictating what consumers may choose. Let the free market work as intended.
This was an excellent made video! I used LEDs for years except for a few situations where I needed to draw more power to make a smart switch work. When I heard about the ban I stocked up on plenty of old incandescents. However it shined light (no pun intended) on the fact that old incandescents look so much better! And they dim beautifully down to just the smallest glow of the filament. LEDs don't dim the circuit board turns them on and off rapidly, YUCK! Anyway now my whole house runs incandescents.
@@GERALD_786that’s a broad statement. In my opinion the more expensive ones flicker too, maybe not as much but they still flicker. Considering you used to be able to buy a pack of incandescent or CFL bulbs for the same price as 1 or 2 “quality” led bulbs and those bulbs didn’t flicker unless there was really something wrong. The tolerances were far greater and worked better than the led bulbs. Also there is known research into led bulbs and they do factually flicker more and cause some folks headaches and dizziness. I’m not totally against led bulbs but they should be an option, not the only bulb available. The government shouldn’t be influencing the private sector. My entire house is outfitted with led bulbs, I do see some flicker but not enough to bother me personally, I used sylvania and Philips bulbs mostly, I do have a few cheap bulbs that work ok but doing electric work day to day the biggest complaint I hear is now flicker, and typically goes back to led bulbs, cheap and high end, doesn’t seem to matter if the person notices it. I am sure the cheaper ones use subpar components but in my experience they all flicker more than incandescents and CFL’s ever did. I know we solved quite a few issues by having the customer switch to CFL bulbs but now that’s not an option so the issue has only been exasperated.
Thank you. My daughter is hoping to do something at her school's science fair in the coming months on this topic and how they affect people, so happy to find your video to get her started on this topic. Now for her to figure out how to turn it into a science project.
Very good project recommend to have a meter showing any EMF radiation how it can bother what age of people . Also the light color in Kelvin and if any flickering . Some are effected others not . Along with negative is positive example if a person has SADS bright light 10,000K could be helpful . Then there is red light therapy .
We had Tallmadge Street Lights in Elmhurst, Illinois years ago, with exposed filament low watt incandescent bulbs. The effect was magical, with an amber glow, and pebbled glass to amplify the aura. They were all taken down and discarded.
For those with headaches, try using a >95 CRI lightbulb For context an incandescent has 100 CRI while most LEDs have an 80 CRI >95 CRI bulbs are kinda expensive though, and they're typically used in video production. But you can still find them online nonetheless.
I just bought over $200 in bulbs, the clear incandescent bulbs set for 30% power, since my current bullbs are near 3 years old and do not fail I might just have a lifetime supply.
I like using leds during the summer and switching back to some incandescents in the winter to get some heat with em instead of needing to run the furnace more
I work professionally in the lighting industry and my best guess is that the best case woukd be a rollback, in which you can buy incandescent light bulbs under 60 Watts.
I love how you say it's garbage because this led crap is crap. It is inferior lighting and yet that's what they give us. Garbage! I prefer good old fashioned incandescent myself. LEDs are too damn bright and way too harsh for my eyeballs.
I couldn't agree more. I recently glanced up and saw a clear LED at a grocery store. It was so harsh that it hurt my eyes for nearly an hour. Incandescents provide better quality light, without being so harsh and blinding!
You know, we can buy low kelvin leds. Ws can literally buy straight red leds, amber are also available. We can also buy flicker free leds in theory. I still like incandescents for infrared light. I also think plastics and power supplies are going to be terrible for land fills.
A good LED bulb will last 50,000 hours if it has a good heatsink and the embedded power supply is professionally built. Problem is, you're not going to find a professionally made LED bulb among the $2 types sold in the majority of supermarkets. I use Osram and Philips bulbs - but they sells for more than $15 each, and are only sold in specialized shops and specialty websites...
I recently visited my mother, and she's still using the same incandescent bulbs that have lasted, what, 10 years at least? There are about 6 LED bulbs that have burned out in the last month in my house. They lasted about 14 months. When I pull up in the drive way at night, the glow from the 2700k LED bulbs just looks off, unnatural. On the hunt for incandescent lights now.
I've tried nearly every brand of LED bulb on the market (Philips Ultra Definition, Sylvania TruWave, GE HD Light, Feit Enhance, Soraa Vivid, etc.), but I have yet to find anything that I find visually appealing.
If you dim them enough to get close to a looking nice like a dimmed incandescent they simply do not turn back on. Seems there is a minimum voltage required to trigger then when the power is turn on. Have to turn the brightness up on startup, then lower it again.
@@concernednewfie White LED light bulbs would probably look more like incandescent light bulbs if they used red-emitting LEDs instead of blue or violet-emitting LEDs. But a white LED light bulb that uses red-emitting LEDs would be extremely energy inefficient.
Thank you so much ! Awesome video ! And now they are taking away our warm glowing beautiful Christmas lights so now all we can have are those cold eye blinding laser beam led flickering Christmas lights
Once the bulb factory stops making incandescent the cost to restart that factory may be too high. We may be stuck with buying oven bulbs once the supply runs out.
Everyone in to comment's are complaining about led lights making their helth bad and switching away makes them feel better. But are failing to realize that every screen in the last 10 years has been powered by leds. Your tv, your phone, your computer screen, your car infotainment system.
Such a great video! The delusional thought around LED's truly hurts my head. So somehow there is a net saving in electricity use when the input energy to produce these bulbs is taken into account??? I cannot stand the light they produce nor the flicker they make, its all bad. In Australia, they banned incandescent around 2010, I did a lifetime buy of around 2500 bulbs, they worked out to be about 55 cents a piece, currently an LED bulb costs 6-8 dollars a piece here....savings my aching a$$! Thank you for putting out the word on wattage comparisons of appliances Vs incandescent bulbs, in Australia space heaters can be as high as 2400 watts (10 amps on 240V circuit), people don't think twice about having one in each bedroom, every light in my entire house barely adds up to half of one heater, please people, do the math. Use a clothes line instead of a 2000 watt clothes dryer, no need to rape the planet for the minerals to make a bulb that puts us behind the 8 ball before its even shipped. For those non believers, have a look at any video relating to silicon chip manufacture, look at the energy that goes into making a single wafer, these are used to make the control chips and the LED's themselves, then there is the aluminium heatsink the components get mounted on and the plastics derived from oil to make the housing. Further to all of this is the thousands of products that have been made obsolete by this ban, for instance equipment that uses specialty bulbs that were made in the same factory as general use bulbs. I am a studio photographer and the modeling lamp in my flash heads use 250-600 watt halogen lamps that are no longer produced, I had to do a lifetime buy of these too, but they cost me significantly more than the 50 cents a piece. Once these bulbs are gone, so is thousands of dollars of high end photo flash equipment.......and just try using an LED modeling lamp inside a heavily baffled soft box...good luck!
Yes, banning an incandescent bulb is an insult. Many people who are sensitive to lighting in particular, or electricity generally, use far less overall electricity than the general population so should not be part of a complete ban. Most households are over-illuminated. There's your problem. 'Green' technologies have many dark sides (cost of mineral extraction and manufacture, as well as the dirty electricity and flicker during their use in the case of lighting) and should surely be an option, but not to the exclusion of other, life-affirming devices and technologies that have stood the test of time for human compatability.
Right, most pundits will say that the infrared emitted from incandescents is 'waste'. It is true that this does not help with vision-related tasks, but our human biology does like the sun-like qualities of that full spectrum that comes from the Edison bulbs.
You can still buy the old bulbs. Even at stores. The ban was more to save energy and to not look like cave men to the rest of the world. But if you really want them they are just labled as appliances bulbs, industrial bulbs or heating bulbs.
I don’t agree with the ban made me buy them just because. I should he able to. But i do like the say light LED if im just hanging out home listening to music or hanging out with friends. But when im relaxing readings or gunna start to wind down i go warm light. Idk if i can’t tell the difference since im color blind. But I want to look into this more.
This is the 2nd part of an experiment I tried. It started with wondering if I, with no training on the subjects of electricity and light, could send sound through a laser. Then I thought I wonder how it would work with an LED light. Mostly with items all from the dollar tree. ua-cam.com/users/shortsBIk_i-HAlkc?feature=shared
You should've also tested the Philips "Warm Glow" filament LED bulbs along with an incandescent light bulb on a dimmer switch. That should show how close it replicates the color characteristics of incandescent lighting when dimmed.
Big Brother is ruling us! Again! It is my choice what I want! Abortion is legal but not choice of lightbulbs! How controlling and some will follow! Bah, Bah,Bah as sheep say!
halogen is excellent before LED, old cfl used to have very bad phosphor formulation and color look all ghostly, but LED are getting cheaper and more affordable even the good ones, so using halogen in kind of confusing unless you want a perfect cri 100
@@thetankhunter7925 ebay and Amazon have surprising deals. And companies like Grainger are trying to get rid of their bulbs before the ban on selling them
Chronic Seizures are from over toxicity and can be healed with the GAPS diet created by Russian neurosurgeon Natasha Campbell McBride I use warm sunglasses inside stores etc. Those of us who are sensitive have to continually adjust to this world, but we can make adjustments in our lives that make our lives better. Every time something becomes not good enough for us anymore, we can replace it with something that is better for us of our own making… I hope that’s where all of this takes us…
Hey there my friend! Why the upset? Incandescents waste around 90% of their energy in heat. Actually it's more than that. Now I don't like LED lights particularly - they get dim far too quickly, despite what 'big LED' says, but there's no denying my bills are so much lower! Isn't that a good thing? No?? And I have to admit the crappy LED bulbs from 8-10 years ago really are a good deal better. And strap any current meter you like to these things to see they only use around a tenth the power. This really isn't a partisan thing, unless you're gonna call me a commie or something!
Although gas stoves can have many negative health ramifications, especially in the absence of proper ventilation, we should have a full education of the population for many years before banning a traditional device that millions of people are currently using. Repair parts will be hard to come by if the industry shrinks, so one's existing gas stove will have a shorter life expectancy than it would without the ban. Very heavy-handed. And ham-handed.
If it's flicking it's taking pictures. All my lights are camera.! I've never bought a LED but sure enough I went on vacation and came back someone put it in my room. Hmm blow heads
I'm sorry dude, but I think you are being pretty unfair. Just because some of those specific bulbs you bought flicker or fail early does not mean all of them do. We just need to accept that incandescent lightbulbs, as charming as their light output can be, are inherently inefficient. I do think policy makers should mandate a certain life expectancy of LED bulbs so that they wont be subject to shoddy manufacturing practices (which obviously is a problem, I am not denying that!). Of course LED bulbs are E-Waste and need to be recycled. That's not to big of a deal considering that many parts can still be used for new lightbulbs which at scale is still better for the environment that every single household using incandescent lights.
I've disliked incandescent bulbs since the 70s and prefer LEDs. Dim hot yellow and vague. Spectrum analysis also shows LEDs pretty bad until you compare them to every other technology. That said, you should be able to buy what you want, regulation always seems to start with a fist rather than a genuine attempt to help.
While I think that people have freedom of choice and they could have done a longer period where you could still buy them but they don't manufacture them in such high quantities, at some point you have to start phasing out a technology that is outdated. (Otherwise, we'd still be using radium for glow in the dark watchfaces) Also, please don't do comparison in an echo chamber. While I do agree that cheap LED bulbs are bad for the environment and have terrible light quality, proper, brand name ones can outlast incandescent bulbs by quite a lot and have great light quality, IF they are properly installed (Eg: not in an enclosed fixtrure, etc). As for your light temperature complaints, there are bulbs that are indistinguishable from an incandescent. For dimming, if you read about how a conventional light dimmer works, you may see that making LED's dimmable requires more components than a non dimmable LED (the dimmers simple operating principal was the reason that dimmable CCFLs were never a thing), either get dimmable bulbs, or replace a dimmer switch, the savings will be apparent. Flickering: "OMG, it flickers THOUSANDS OF TIMES A SECOND!44!!" Guess what: your phone's screen and most importantly your laptop's screen works in the same way, yet you aren't ripping the LED backlight out of your laptop. Before LED backlighting they used CCFL, yes fluorescent tubes, which would fade over time and make the screen unusable in ~7-8 years of use... The usage of plastic caps instead of glass is possible thanks to the fact that LEDs don't emit as much heat as incandescent bulbs, thus making the whole thing more resistant against drops. Also, if you are after a perfect mimicking of an incandescent bulb but one that uses quite a lot less energy, try something like a Phillips WarmGlow, it will have a Beautiful warm color temperature
I cannot physically tolerate the LED lights. They give me a headache and mess with my eyesight, almost as bad a the florescent ones.
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Many people have visual sensitivity to high flicker rate and spectral push to the blue that is the nature of LEDs. CFLs and Fluorescent tubes are even worse because the 'ballast' involved also assaults the senses of some people more than others. Both kinds of light impress 'dirty electricity' onto the local branch circuit wiring, adding to one's sensitivity woes. This is a tough situation to be in, and still be traveling in public. At our house, my partner is electro-hypersensitive so has been effectively housebound for four years due to the pervasiveness of cell and WI-FI signals.
You should get high quality dimmable LED bulbs with a high CRI (90+). These bulbs usually produce no flicker (unless dimmed in some cases) and the warm white ones have a color almost like that of incandescent bulbs.
@@kengartner204CFLs do not flicker as they use electronic ballasts. Electronic ballasts convert the mains frequency (50/60 Hz) to a high frequency (typically around 20,000 Hz) to increase efficiency.
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Thanks for the video. I switched back to incandescent lights when my wife suddenly couldn't sleep anymore. She was disabled for months, and switching away from LED bulbs helped her a lot.
Incandescent actually gives you health benefit too. You actually get some of the uv or whatever it is that comes from the sun, believe it or not. I heard it on Medcram
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That makes perfect sense. LED lights are harsher on human biology than the incandescents. Do you know whether her problem was primarily with the spectrum/flicker (ie, it was an optical sensitivity) or was it the harmonics/transients put onto the wiring that triggered her most. Both are injurious to some people. ''Electrical Sensitivity' can manifest suddenly, more frequently in women ages 40-60. If that sounds relevant, look up research from Belpomme to see the symptoms as well.
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I think your wife probably has a much more serious medical condition that should be checked out.
LEDs are available for people that want them. Why cant incandescent lightbulbs be available for those who want them instead? LED light is cold, gives some people migraines and just so people know everybody can see all your imperfections under LED light.
I do not agree with the incandescent ban at all.
womp womp
bothers you?
What ban? I ordered some earlier this year for a dim bulb outlet for working on amplifiers.
I’m an interior designer and graphic artist etc. A good friend told me this would happen over 10 years ago and so I stocked up. I am already, on a daily basis, mourning the loss of the beautiful look of a twilight evening as street lamps turn on and car headlights begin to glow. It’s all LED now, it looks like a jail cell outside at twilight, walking down the sidewalk, or seeing the little cars drive-by with their robot cold blue white eyes.
Humans need the glow.
I'm jealous. I'm going to stock up on appliance lights and edison bulbs myself. Homedepot still sells them.
I wish I could give you many likes! You describe the situation so eloquently.
you are so right, LEDs are stupid
I actually like LEDs, but the service life is nowhere near what they claim on the box. 10 years, 20 years, 50 years? Baloney in the last several years, I have had to replace many bulbs that failed prematurely.
The life expectancy on the box is an average life expectancy, not a minimum life expectancy, so whatever number that is, half of them would have burned out, and some of them will last longer. But you are correct, none of them ever last as long as they say. Then who guarantees your purchase? Nobody. A year or two you'll never find that exact LED bulb in the store anyway.
Recent quality LED lights are, in general, a great advancement over incandescent lights. Because of the energy savings I can have more lights on - especially during long winter evenings. Other that 1 bad batch of 40 watt LED bulbs several years ago, my other LED (and CFL) bulbs easily last 10x as long. I don't miss having to repair table lamps, fixtures, and wall switches due to the high current loads wearing out the electrical contacts. And I definitely don't miss the bulb blowing in the bathroom just as I'm getting ready to leave the house. I'd say that one reason why incandescent bulbs were banned is that those were the bulbs that dollar stores were stocking, so those who were less well off were paying a higher cost when factoring in electricity usage.
The only downside I've seen with some LED fixtures is when they skip having a good diffuser so that we don't have to look at bright spots of light. I guess they think that looks modern, but that is one 'feature' that does hurt my eyes.
Dollar stores were selling LEDs long before the ban, and I don't know why people keep saying they weren't. LEDs are just too harsh for my eyes, don't dim well (flicker), don't last as long as claimed, and tend to give me severe headaches. Clear decorative LEDs are even worse you are looking directly at harsh, naked LED strips. By the way, a 43w (equals 60w) halogen bulb only uses $5.18 of energy for an entire year if used for 3hrs/day/everyday, so unless you are running hundreds of bulbs, the energy savings is negligible.
@@John-bs5ug If you buy LED bulbs that are cheap crap, you get what you pay for. Non flickering LEDs with excellent CRI and long life are available, and will save you enormous amounts of money. And no, the energy savings are not negligible, the savings are easily visible to the electric company, and your bills, power usage has gone down by about 10% or something like that since energy saving bulbs were released. One bulb isn't much, but the average house has scores of bulbs, and it adds up.
@@BooBaddyBig What brand of LEDs do you buy? I've tried GE's LED bulbs that claimed to have a 9 year lifespan, and they didn't even last as long as GE's double life halogens. Most started to flicker or become about 20% less bright after about 2 years of use. Years ago, I remember that there were some LEDs that claim to last as long as 22 years, but now I don't see anything with a stated life of more than 13 years (at 3 hours/day/every day). We only turn on 6 light bulbs for 6 hours a day, so we already don't spend much on electricity costs.
@@John-bs5ug philips, especially the ultra definition, excellent cri and dimmibility, almost replicating incandescent in every way with LED advantages, even the way it looks
@@GERALD_786 I tried those last month and they were quite odd. The package said it was 2700k, but the bulb said 2700-2200k. (What does that even mean?) After a week one of them turned yellow, and another died after three weeks.
Incandescent bulbs aren't putting out the dirty electricity, and not making everyone diseased.
Never cared for LEDs. The light they give off just doesn't have the same look and feel as incandescent bulbs.
I am so upset about the incandescent bulb ban! I always believe in the freedom of the USA. I have lost all hope at this point. The light produced by an Incandescent bulb is like no other. When the public reduces the amount of electricity they use. The rates will go up to make up the difference for the loss of revenue. So in the end the consumers will pay more on their power bill. I am not against LED lighting. I think they have a good purpose in some locations. LED light output reduces over time. I have found that 1 out of 8 will fail well before the estimated life span. If you have a series of several bulbs in a room and one does go out the new one will be much brighter than the old LED bulbs. This will require you to change all the bulbs to match.
My best advise is if you want to continue to use incandescent bulbs... Put them on a dimmer. The life of the incandescent will last so much longer. This is what I have done on most of my incandescent bulbs. So far I am going on over 7 years on many of my incandescent bulbs on a dimmer. These bulbs are used for 6 hours a day in the evening.
awesome advice about incandescents on a dimmer switch - didn't know it lengthened their lives that much!
@@dsolproductions It's an exponential function. If you want to go in the other direction, you can make an incandescent bulb burn bright as the sun by doubling the voltage. It'll last a few seconds and maybe a minute, but it will be glorious!
@@dsolproductions Just dimming it 10% will make it last 3000 hours. If you can get your hands on a incandescent made to run on 240V it will be half as bright but will outlast most led's
@@michaeldhondt368 interestingly enough many years ago I did bring back a 240 volt halogen bulb from Europe and put it in a normal bedside lamp, and it was quite a lovely warm dim glow. But it only lasted about 5 years of occasional use.
I hope you're stocked up on the old bulbs.
The other day I replaced the leds in my personal ceiling fan with some old incandescent lights my dad never used, I am incredibly proud of myself.
Reducing energy for electric lighting actually started under Jimmy Carter in 1977 with the creation of the Department of Energy. Street lights went to high pressure sodium, office lights went to fluorescent, and so on. Since then, we've reduced energy for lighting to only a few percentage points. Moreover, energy for lighting for residential homes is a very small amount of the total energy that we use. Now nobody needs a pair of 150W halogen floodlights guarding their back yard all night - LEDs are a great advantage. But the problem is that LEDs aren't a silver bullet for all residential lighting solutions, for example, there are no LED bulbs dim to warm as well as incandescents and give you that romantic, gokden glow after sunset. I support incandescent light bulbs for the home for say 60W and under.
I get migraine headaches from many LED bulbs, which are toxical for eyes. Technology is coming to a better end and some very expensive Philips ones are good to me. But I pay 90 cents for a chinese made incandescent and I fell good in my room.
Thanks for demonstrating this! I don't like LEDs! And especially now with it becoming such a political issue with the venerable incandescent bulb. It's goverment over reach.
The LED examples hurt my eyes thro the screen even. Lightning is soo important. Not happy about this ban at all.
Incandescent bulbs are easier to make allowing more people to construct them in small workshops or factories while LED bulbs are complex to make and you have to have advanced electronics to create blue LED diode.
I've lived in my home for 25 years. Not counting lamps, I have 50 bulbs in fixtures. At least 10 of the original 50 still work just fine. How many LEDs will still work 25 years from now? At 40 cents a bulb I think I got my moneys worth regardless of the energy cost. About 5 years ago I picked up 400 60 watters at 50 cents/bulb and changed all my switches to dimmers. Powering on an incandescent bulb at a dimmed state will greatly increase the life of your bulb.
I'm not opposed to all LED lights, I have several specialty lights and I love light strips above and below cabinets & furniture. I am however opposed to government dictating what consumers may choose. Let the free market work as intended.
This was an excellent made video! I used LEDs for years except for a few situations where I needed to draw more power to make a smart switch work. When I heard about the ban I stocked up on plenty of old incandescents. However it shined light (no pun intended) on the fact that old incandescents look so much better! And they dim beautifully down to just the smallest glow of the filament. LEDs don't dim the circuit board turns them on and off rapidly, YUCK! Anyway now my whole house runs incandescents.
Until an LED is capable of being a black body emitter, I will always prefer incandescents.
LED bulbs flicker obnoxiously, even when the electric is fine. They also cause some folks to get headaches. Also more expensive
LED bulbs flicker if you cheap out
@@GERALD_786that’s a broad statement. In my opinion the more expensive ones flicker too, maybe not as much but they still flicker. Considering you used to be able to buy a pack of incandescent or CFL bulbs for the same price as 1 or 2 “quality” led bulbs and those bulbs didn’t flicker unless there was really something wrong. The tolerances were far greater and worked better than the led bulbs. Also there is known research into led bulbs and they do factually flicker more and cause some folks headaches and dizziness. I’m not totally against led bulbs but they should be an option, not the only bulb available. The government shouldn’t be influencing the private sector. My entire house is outfitted with led bulbs, I do see some flicker but not enough to bother me personally, I used sylvania and Philips bulbs mostly, I do have a few cheap bulbs that work ok but doing electric work day to day the biggest complaint I hear is now flicker, and typically goes back to led bulbs, cheap and high end, doesn’t seem to matter if the person notices it. I am sure the cheaper ones use subpar components but in my experience they all flicker more than incandescents and CFL’s ever did. I know we solved quite a few issues by having the customer switch to CFL bulbs but now that’s not an option so the issue has only been exasperated.
Thank you. My daughter is hoping to do something at her school's science fair in the coming months on this topic and how they affect people, so happy to find your video to get her started on this topic. Now for her to figure out how to turn it into a science project.
Very good project recommend to have a meter showing any EMF radiation how it can bother what age of people . Also the light color in Kelvin and if any flickering . Some are effected others not . Along with negative is positive example if a person has SADS bright light 10,000K could be helpful . Then there is red light therapy .
We had Tallmadge Street Lights in Elmhurst, Illinois years ago, with exposed filament low watt incandescent bulbs. The effect was magical, with an amber glow, and pebbled glass to amplify the aura. They were all taken down and discarded.
For those with headaches, try using a >95 CRI lightbulb
For context an incandescent has 100 CRI while most LEDs have an 80 CRI
>95 CRI bulbs are kinda expensive though, and they're typically used in video production.
But you can still find them online nonetheless.
I just bought over $200 in bulbs, the clear incandescent bulbs set for 30% power, since my current bullbs are near 3 years old and do not fail I might just have a lifetime supply.
Can u list the brands of incandescent in the video and or ones you recommend. Thanks
"I like the way incandescent bulbs make me LOOK*
THAT TOOK ME UNDER!!
😂😂😂😂😂
I was using leds in the summer my 75 year old home to help keep it cool and incandescent in winter to help keep it warm 💚💚💚
I like using leds during the summer and switching back to some incandescents in the winter to get some heat with em instead of needing to run the furnace more
Beautiful video. Not only does it make a beautiful it is healthier than LED's. Stocking up now! Praying for our next President to bring them back!
I work professionally in the lighting industry and my best guess is that the best case woukd be a rollback, in which you can buy incandescent light bulbs under 60 Watts.
I love how you say it's garbage because this led crap is crap. It is inferior lighting and yet that's what they give us. Garbage! I prefer good old fashioned incandescent myself. LEDs are too damn bright and way too harsh for my eyeballs.
I couldn't agree more. I recently glanced up and saw a clear LED at a grocery store. It was so harsh that it hurt my eyes for nearly an hour. Incandescents provide better quality light, without being so harsh and blinding!
hello, thank you for a nice video in which incandescent lamps (bulbs) are the best for me in home lighting and especially in a frosted bulb.😊
You know, we can buy low kelvin leds. Ws can literally buy straight red leds, amber are also available. We can also buy flicker free leds in theory.
I still like incandescents for infrared light.
I also think plastics and power supplies are going to be terrible for land fills.
Very enlightening
The Talking Heads said it best: Stop making sense!
16:38 Mercury Vapors should get brought back too, they are 175 watt bulbs that do actually last 24000 hours
A good LED bulb will last 50,000 hours if it has a good heatsink and the embedded power supply is professionally built.
Problem is, you're not going to find a professionally made LED bulb among the $2 types sold in the majority of supermarkets. I use Osram and Philips bulbs - but they sells for more than $15 each, and are only sold in specialized shops and specialty websites...
I recently visited my mother, and she's still using the same incandescent bulbs that have lasted, what, 10 years at least? There are about 6 LED bulbs that have burned out in the last month in my house. They lasted about 14 months. When I pull up in the drive way at night, the glow from the 2700k LED bulbs just looks off, unnatural. On the hunt for incandescent lights now.
I've tried nearly every brand of LED bulb on the market (Philips Ultra Definition, Sylvania TruWave, GE HD Light, Feit Enhance, Soraa Vivid, etc.), but I have yet to find anything that I find visually appealing.
I agree. LED light is just too harsh compared to incandescents. This ban is ridiculous.
@@John-bs5ug And LED bulbs (even ones with supposedly high CRIs) render a lot of colors incorrectly, particularly different shades of white.
If you dim them enough to get close to a looking nice like a dimmed incandescent they simply do not turn back on. Seems there is a minimum voltage required to trigger then when the power is turn on. Have to turn the brightness up on startup, then lower it again.
@@concernednewfie White LED light bulbs would probably look more like incandescent light bulbs if they used red-emitting LEDs instead of blue or violet-emitting LEDs. But a white LED light bulb that uses red-emitting LEDs would be extremely energy inefficient.
@@puerulus I think that would explain why LEDs make certain things look so strange.
Thank you so much ! Awesome video ! And now they are taking away our warm glowing beautiful Christmas lights so now all we can have are those cold eye blinding laser beam led flickering Christmas lights
Anyone know where I can find some black market lightbulbs?
Ebay
Once the bulb factory stops making incandescent the cost to restart that factory may be too high. We may be stuck with buying oven bulbs once the supply runs out.
AMEN, I hear you. LED sucks. ☹☹☹☹I will NEVER use them.
Try the "Philis Ultra Definition" Soft White with warm glow effect
not too expensive and all around a very good LED bulb
Everyone in to comment's are complaining about led lights making their helth bad and switching away makes them feel better. But are failing to realize that every screen in the last 10 years has been powered by leds. Your tv, your phone, your computer screen, your car infotainment system.
Such a great video!
The delusional thought around LED's truly hurts my head. So somehow there is a net saving in electricity use when the input energy to produce these bulbs is taken into account???
I cannot stand the light they produce nor the flicker they make, its all bad.
In Australia, they banned incandescent around 2010, I did a lifetime buy of around 2500 bulbs, they worked out to be about 55 cents a piece, currently an LED bulb costs 6-8 dollars a piece here....savings my aching a$$!
Thank you for putting out the word on wattage comparisons of appliances Vs incandescent bulbs, in Australia space heaters can be as high as 2400 watts (10 amps on 240V circuit), people don't think twice about having one in each bedroom, every light in my entire house barely adds up to half of one heater, please people, do the math. Use a clothes line instead of a 2000 watt clothes dryer, no need to rape the planet for the minerals to make a bulb that puts us behind the 8 ball before its even shipped.
For those non believers, have a look at any video relating to silicon chip manufacture, look at the energy that goes into making a single wafer, these are used to make the control chips and the LED's themselves, then there is the aluminium heatsink the components get mounted on and the plastics derived from oil to make the housing.
Further to all of this is the thousands of products that have been made obsolete by this ban, for instance equipment that uses specialty bulbs that were made in the same factory as general use bulbs. I am a studio photographer and the modeling lamp in my flash heads use 250-600 watt halogen lamps that are no longer produced, I had to do a lifetime buy of these too, but they cost me significantly more than the 50 cents a piece. Once these bulbs are gone, so is thousands of dollars of high end photo flash equipment.......and just try using an LED modeling lamp inside a heavily baffled soft box...good luck!
Yes, banning an incandescent bulb is an insult. Many people who are sensitive to lighting in particular, or electricity generally, use far less overall electricity than the general population so should not be part of a complete ban. Most households are over-illuminated. There's your problem. 'Green' technologies have many dark sides (cost of mineral extraction and manufacture, as well as the dirty electricity and flicker during their use in the case of lighting) and should surely be an option, but not to the exclusion of other, life-affirming devices and technologies that have stood the test of time for human compatability.
Well done!!
thank u
You should research the health, both mental and physical benefits of infrared light which also comes from incandescent bulbs give humans.
Right, most pundits will say that the infrared emitted from incandescents is 'waste'. It is true that this does not help with vision-related tasks, but our human biology does like the sun-like qualities of that full spectrum that comes from the Edison bulbs.
You can still buy the old bulbs. Even at stores. The ban was more to save energy and to not look like cave men to the rest of the world. But if you really want them they are just labled as appliances bulbs, industrial bulbs or heating bulbs.
I don’t agree with the ban made me buy them just because. I should he able to. But i do like the say light LED if im just hanging out home listening to music or hanging out with friends. But when im relaxing readings or gunna start to wind down i go warm light. Idk if i can’t tell the difference since im color blind. But I want to look into this more.
This is the 2nd part of an experiment I tried. It started with wondering if I, with no training on the subjects of electricity and light, could send sound through a laser. Then I thought I wonder how it would work with an LED light. Mostly with items all from the dollar tree.
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You should've also tested the Philips "Warm Glow" filament LED bulbs along with an incandescent light bulb on a dimmer switch. That should show how close it replicates the color characteristics of incandescent lighting when dimmed.
Banning high voltage bulbs is extremely reasonable. We should be allowed to use 40w lightbulbs.
Big Brother is ruling us, again! What’s next? The time of cooking? When to go to sleep?
I cannot stand leds. But what we can do? We cannot do anything because the governent is too strong. 😢😢😢
What have I come across? LEDdites?
Big Brother is ruling us! Again! It is my choice what I want! Abortion is legal but not choice of lightbulbs! How controlling and some will follow! Bah, Bah,Bah as sheep say!
13:23 does that mean high pressure sodium’s are banned?
In the winter there is NO WASTE FROM INCANDESCENT BULBS THEY HELP HEAT THE ROOM THATS A FACT!!!
Look into halogens, they use less electricity and still look just like incandescents, also Philips led are good too!
halogen is excellent before LED, old cfl used to have very bad phosphor formulation and color look all ghostly, but LED are getting cheaper and more affordable even the good ones, so using halogen in kind of confusing unless you want a perfect cri 100
@@GERALD_786 I know, thats why I mentioned Philips' LEDs
Damn you’re right DSol!
My brother and niece have grand mal seizure when they are around LED bulbs. What do they do?
Buy your favorite incandescent bulbs online while you still can, before the ban goes into effect in July or August.
@@dsolproductions recommend any good sites?
@@thetankhunter7925 ebay and Amazon have surprising deals. And companies like Grainger are trying to get rid of their bulbs before the ban on selling them
this is bs hate led
Chronic Seizures are from over toxicity and can be healed with the GAPS diet created by Russian neurosurgeon Natasha Campbell McBride
I use warm sunglasses inside stores etc. Those of us who are sensitive have to continually adjust to this world, but we can make adjustments in our lives that make our lives better. Every time something becomes not good enough for us anymore, we can replace it with something that is better for us of our own making… I hope that’s where all of this takes us…
I hate leds. They are so unnatural and bad for eyes. 😢😢 So sad that we cant buy incadescent any more
How many damn bulbs can I store? We are doomed I suppose
Hey there my friend! Why the upset? Incandescents waste around 90% of their energy in heat. Actually it's more than that. Now I don't like LED lights particularly - they get dim far too quickly, despite what 'big LED' says, but there's no denying my bills are so much lower! Isn't that a good thing? No?? And I have to admit the crappy LED bulbs from 8-10 years ago really are a good deal better. And strap any current meter you like to these things to see they only use around a tenth the power. This really isn't a partisan thing, unless you're gonna call me a commie or something!
Hopefully, it will be repealed by GOP in 2024 or by the Supreme Court. This is what is called consumer's choice canceling.
Slippery slope of the gas stove ban
Although gas stoves can have many negative health ramifications, especially in the absence of proper ventilation, we should have a full education of the population for many years before banning a traditional device that millions of people are currently using. Repair parts will be hard to come by if the industry shrinks, so one's existing gas stove will have a shorter life expectancy than it would without the ban. Very heavy-handed. And ham-handed.
Second everything 100%...
If it's flicking it's taking pictures. All my lights are camera.! I've never bought a LED but sure enough I went on vacation and came back someone put it in my room. Hmm blow heads
6:26 that’s what she said
10:23 Look at all those cra..y electrolytics in there barely waiting to take a corosive cr.p all over there...
I'm sorry dude, but I think you are being pretty unfair. Just because some of those specific bulbs you bought flicker or fail early does not mean all of them do. We just need to accept that incandescent lightbulbs, as charming as their light output can be, are inherently inefficient. I do think policy makers should mandate a certain life expectancy of LED bulbs so that they wont be subject to shoddy manufacturing practices (which obviously is a problem, I am not denying that!).
Of course LED bulbs are E-Waste and need to be recycled. That's not to big of a deal considering that many parts can still be used for new lightbulbs which at scale is still better for the environment that every single household using incandescent lights.
I've disliked incandescent bulbs since the 70s and prefer LEDs. Dim hot yellow and vague. Spectrum analysis also shows LEDs pretty bad until you compare them to every other technology.
That said, you should be able to buy what you want, regulation always seems to start with a fist rather than a genuine attempt to help.
I prefer 5000. Kelvin light temperature incandescent bulbs put out a sickly yellow white
this is all about POWER and CONTROL
Why a COMPUTER CIRCUIT BOARD? in a bulb?
An LED can't work without one.
While I think that people have freedom of choice and they could have done a longer period where you could still buy them but they don't manufacture them in such high quantities, at some point you have to start phasing out a technology that is outdated. (Otherwise, we'd still be using radium for glow in the dark watchfaces) Also, please don't do comparison in an echo chamber. While I do agree that cheap LED bulbs are bad for the environment and have terrible light quality, proper, brand name ones can outlast incandescent bulbs by quite a lot and have great light quality, IF they are properly installed (Eg: not in an enclosed fixtrure, etc). As for your light temperature complaints, there are bulbs that are indistinguishable from an incandescent. For dimming, if you read about how a conventional light dimmer works, you may see that making LED's dimmable requires more components than a non dimmable LED (the dimmers simple operating principal was the reason that dimmable CCFLs were never a thing), either get dimmable bulbs, or replace a dimmer switch, the savings will be apparent. Flickering: "OMG, it flickers THOUSANDS OF TIMES A SECOND!44!!" Guess what: your phone's screen and most importantly your laptop's screen works in the same way, yet you aren't ripping the LED backlight out of your laptop. Before LED backlighting they used CCFL, yes fluorescent tubes, which would fade over time and make the screen unusable in ~7-8 years of use...
The usage of plastic caps instead of glass is possible thanks to the fact that LEDs don't emit as much heat as incandescent bulbs, thus making the whole thing more resistant against drops. Also, if you are after a perfect mimicking of an incandescent bulb but one that uses quite a lot less energy, try something like a Phillips WarmGlow, it will have a Beautiful warm color temperature
Incandescent bulbs are garbage. They burn out real fast and get too hot
You must be a conservative Republican
You can't make a smart home with incandescent bulbs there's nothing wrong with LED. They do not flicker mine doesn't
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