the man sat there for like 15 mins hearing her speak and didn’t say a word the minute he brings up a valid point she starts deflecting 😂😂😂😂like only a woman can
He’s didn’t set anyone up! It’s called healthy and effective communication. this is how you get to the root of a problem instead of her only telling Joe how she felt. He made her put it on the floor so Ish can address it as well. Notice how Mel “thought” she apologized to Ish and the other coworkers let her know she didn’t. She had to stand on it in-front of everyone…which made Ish’s points more valid.
@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX Joe knowing what nihilism means has nothing to do with if he is one. He's a good guy, but assumes the worst out of people so it creates issues, his faith in humanity is pretty low. Shit, Joe was a serial monogamous person for a while, a person like that is bound to have some jaded shit. I don't think that makes him not an empath tho. You're clearly not one tho😂
Absolutely perfect! Any emotion or misstep in wording could have derailed this quickly! He hit ALL points she still tried to defend it. We all go this everyday B!
@TonyVSTheWorld facts, I'm about to save this video for reminders. She was clearly wrong and kind of rude about being wrong too. He listened, didn't cut her off once. Wasn't emotional at all and stuck to facts. How he responded to her was WWAAYY more powerful than him trying to match her energy.
My girlfriend does this at times. I told her how guys think, and she dismisses it, then tries to explain to me how men think because she dated them or how her female friends talk about men. But if i ever told her how women think, she tells me "I'm a woman how could you tell me how women think!" . It's a no win situation. 😂 She'll be all the way wrong and just to avoid an argument I'll let it go. I don't think women realize how often men do this, so they believe they're in the right way more than they are.
Bro this is just women in a nutshell, I used to think i was in an alternate universe with my fiancé til I seen this video, and read this comment, I am not alone lmaooo ..new documentary called surviving women lol
I like how it was made clear that she never apologized to ish, like 20x flip said it and she still never apologized. Yet she claims she doesn’t have a problem taking accountability
And to top it off he was hinting at her to take accountability right then and there and apologise on the pod but she doubled down on being wrong. Which shows his other point that she was never really sorry
Salute to Ish for keeping it cool and dismantling her in the most articulate way possible. I wouldn’t have said another word to Mel until she gave me a formal apology. In person and on the pod.
It’s crazy because from Joe’s initial start of this conversation I’ve been on the edge of my seat waiting for Ish’s response cause this guy is articulate, aware, and he don’t back down so I’m getting my 🍿
The fact that Ish sat there and let her get her shit off smiling the whole time and smoked her with class and grace is HILARIOUS dawg im dying the whole time because even after the examples she was dodging the A word lmao dawg i laughed so hard
He didn't speak to her points, he just proceeded to make his own points... both things happen on the pod.. and I think she takes alot from them especially when compared to the uptight chick with allegations on the network...
The fact that she tried to turn the word box into something offensive is crazy. When he asked if it was offensive she said "yeah" but when flip asked her how many people feel that way she looked stuck and then someone saved her
Mel proved everything Ish said to be correct literally right after he said it. Ice and Flip pointed it out to her. She just don't wanna take ACCOUNTABILITY! 😂🤦🏾♂️
If you were genuinely sorry & found out your apology wasn't received via text/call. You'd simply apologize in person. Nobody in that room besides Mel recalls her apologizing to Ish "in the car lot". She could've apologized right there if she was sincere, instead she invested energy into convincing everyone she already did.
Lmao any time a group of “friends” have a “what I don’t like about this person” session…IT ALWAYS goes left. Case in point… I remember some girl did that w me and I was like “yo we shouldn’t do this….” then she tried to be slick and say what she don’t like about me and say “oh my gosh…let me stop there I have so much…” I was like…”oh okay….” And told her all the shit about her. She stormed out and we ain’t talk for weeks. We hooked up like a year later. Ish and Mel like eachother confirmed lmao
Mel clearly didn’t apologize. She called the wrong # they established she was calling the wrong # but where did she ever say that she actually apologized…. That accountability
I just started watching full episodes of the JBP, and Ish has quickly become my favorite member of the squad. Dude is very calculated with his words. It wouldn't surprise me to find out he was part of the Cancer gang ♋️
Mel: “fair isn’t involved in this” Also Mel: I’m the only girl, and it’s sometimes feel like y’all tell me I’m wrong when y’all feel like I’m wrong” 😂😂😂😂 she chatting for content
She then clarified saying her opinion isn’t fair bc it’s an opinion which is why fair isn’t involved different from being 1 against 7. Even though I agree w Ish more here just wanted to point tht out
Just because a person is angry doesn't mean they are incorrect. One could easily say Mel's perspective is highlighted by past traumatic experiences which is why she is seeing Ish in this way. It really has nothing to do with Ish and everything to do with the emotion Mel is experiencing because of his tone.
@@TyBarnett-js8di misogyny in of itself doesn't make his points invalid or wrong if that were even true. It is possible to hate a person for good reason. To the original point saying bitch or box isn't a indicator of hate. It's more a reflection of Mel's interpretation emotional feeling toward those words. Coming into a male dominated space and asking men to curb their language is ridiculous. If she don't like the way men talk and it triggers her then get off the show simple! Easy fix
Mel poked bears her whole life and got away with it. It effects her deep down that she’s doesn’t have the same pull. She’s quite literally a professional BIRD 🐦
@@peta-gayrobinson502 right. We agree. The point is when they are young and beautiful they get away with it. That's why they are more dangerous when they are old. They have a hard time adjusting
At the beginning I see where she was trying to go.. she was basically trying to say how the jbp can grow their woman audience but she didn't convey that message very good.. then it went downhill once ish got on her
@@GoodClipsTVthey don’t realize when they aren’t being open to being wrong . I don’t think the team up be intentional, but it’s just the dynamics with 5 guys and 1woman . Melissa only flaw is when she capes fit women no matter what , outside of that she’s usually the most logical next to ish
Yo...the way this dude checked her for her double standard. The way he sat back, collected his thoughts and then unleashed an elegant spill. He put her and women who think like her in line the best way he could without being attacked. I like how this dude thinks. And reacted. He's 100% right. If a man went around and did what she just did that shit would have went viral. Smh.
This was the only way, cool and calm because the minute his voice goes up in volume, hes attacking poor lil ol mel. In this time, men arent allowed to defend themselves when a woman “criticizes” them because when they do, they are told they are mansplaining, deflecting, or get hit with shame and guilt tatics
I haven’t even started watching this clip yet(I like to pause it and read comments once I get like 2 mins in lol) but I somehow agree with you based off the pretty girl privilege of Melissa alone lol SN: She is bad doe 😂🤷🏿♂️
Question for eveyone. I agree with Ish too but I want my fellow mens perspective on this. Is this comment section not proving Mel's point too (not all her points but some). I can objectively say that Mel did have some valid points that went unaddressed or we changed through semantics. But as you can see, majority of the comments on the actual video and this comment section are going against Mel without acknowledging some of the legit points she made, we all just talking about Ish points. For example, we're all men, to loosely quote what Ish said he finds it strange that Mel can disagree with them despite 7 men from different walks of life saying the same thing. Fair, but then Mel says that all her girl friends who watch the pod agree about her points of "bitch" & "box" (including my girl lol) but that gets skipped over. We can't lie, it helps that majority of that room and this audience is male and I feel like she can be in a tough spot that they can't relate too cause majority is men. I mostly agree with Ish but she did have a point there. What y'all think?
Lol because keeping quiet a lot of the times especially when someone is running their mouth ends up with them looking foolish and saying a bunch of stupid things they later wish they never even said😂 God gave people two ears and one mouth for a reason, when you actually listen to people and then let them continue to talk they eventually reveal themselves
Mel has been getting away with "pretty privilege" for so long she's blinded by it. She truly believes everything she thinks & feels is fact and no other perspective matters.
This is so crazy to me. People make things much harder than they need to be. Mel does not get the fact that "intending to apologize". Ok Mel, let's say your apology WAS going to the wrong phone #...that means Ish never got it so instead of spending 20 mins going back and forth on how you INTENDED and TRIED to apologize, just apologize now...face to face, on air.
@@zuibeckpulezon4626 Please do not generalize ALL females. I am a female and I have no problem apologizing. "Generalizations from both parties...(men and women) is a very big part of the communication problems that exist between males and females". It's very unfortunate.
Joe is a true instigator lol he set this up! I hated Mel on the show at first , then I find myself defending her when they don’t let her speak. But she spoke in circles here and was off. She totally missed the mark. Ish being quiet and shaking his foot should have warned her.
As a UA-cam only nigga I’ve been wondering for so long why this legendary “bitch box” episode has so much hype. Was also wondering where the name bitch box came from… It all make so much sense now 😭🔥
She is telling the truth. If you're a grown mature man you can see where she is coming from. Any man over 30 who is still calling women B's all the time doesn't really respect women.
Definitely depends on the setting it was used, esp on these group of people who seem friends and it’s all in the open. Mel was reaching hard till it all backfired
Melissa failed miserably at this... she was trying to gaslight the hell out of ish. As a woman I'm disappointed 😂 he read the ish out of her! Sadly, she's too selfish to realize it.
@@user-lg3rx2ko5g lmao you on multiple comments defending this woman 😂 she doesn’t know you at all lmfao that taking accountability hit home for you huh
Ish's response was on point. A true example of the society that we live in where the perceived weaker group can say and do what they like and when faced with accountability they play the victim card
You can tell Ish is just waiting on his moment. He wasn’t laughing wasn’t showing any emotions just waiting to speak his peace. He’s extremely conscious on every level. I didn’t care for him at first but I have grown to really like him.
i could understand as a man why a women would see it like that but i cant understand the word female not being okay to use, Like i understand its more animalistic then human but it rolls off tongue jus fine i feel as if the only reason people dont say male as much is cause its easier to say men
@@kingpimpskinnypimp5329and women just sounds too respectful of title for some of these broads but calling them b-tches is a tad too far so it's better to just call them females. It's the best middle ground. Like some dudes shouldn't be called men but n-ggas, dudes, boys, etc.
Mel is a true representation of a lot of women in today's society. She wants to be the victim and also the villain. She doesn't take accountability. She will duck and dodge and lie to benefit her. The way fans protect her is also part of the issue. And when anyone comes for her she starts getting loud as a defensive mechanism. And she just contradicted herself while talking to Flip. She initially said she apologized to Ish on the show. Now she's saying she did it in person and didn't get to it on the show. See man. She doesn't need to handled with kid gloves, she needs to held accountable so her and her girls know there's a no fly zone.
She’s (Mel) smarter than most give her credit for. “Box” is demeaning to some, similar to the way niiga is used. And ED is a factual condition; Box is a physical thing that carries perception. Too bad the guys didn’t pick up the nuance
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If you let Joe Budden talk long enough, he can get everyone in that room to fight each other
Yes lol the shit is magic.
Yup! When I tell you he has mastered his craft of being manipulative lol they know it but he gets them every time lol
Yo you can’t tell budden shit. This dude loves to instigate shit
Black Johan Liebert 😂
I used to be the same way in highschool some shit was on me and i turned the whole thing with everyone else going at each other
Ish was sitting there COOKING for about 10 minutes lol
16 !!! I actually have the time stamp.
Crock pot stew cooking. Nice and Slow.
@@JaeSproo that’s crazy lol
This nigga ain’t say a word . This light skinned nigga was bout to explode. Foot going crazy
Facts, I could see it all over his face
Joe lit a match and just stood by watching the fire spread.
😂
He absolutely did😂😂😂
“As an Empath, all of this is bothering me.” 😂😂😂😂. Joe is a fool, man.
He seriously believes that he is. 😂😂😂
Man said “did I say I was a true empath, or an empath!” And that right there I had to agree with
That took me out lol
@@ASteelWheelthe fact that he believes he is is definitely crazy as shit. Homie is
A straight Narc
@@GiftedRebelMusic I'm not surprised that his co workers hate him for pitting everyone against each other lol.
The way ish was shaking his foot should’ve let you know how it was gone go
Yurp.
Light skinned nigga was bout to pop.
His foot is going to come off
the man sat there for like 15 mins hearing her speak and didn’t say a word the minute he brings up a valid point she starts deflecting 😂😂😂😂like only a woman can
Man!! SOON AS she said he was misogynistic 😂
Joe budden is a professional gaslighter
Joe is definitely great at setting people up. 😂😂😂
🎯🎯🎯🎯
Yep he knew they argue b4 the pod he set it up perfectly
He’s didn’t set anyone up! It’s called healthy and effective communication. this is how you get to the root of a problem instead of her only telling Joe how she felt. He made her put it on the floor so Ish can address it as well. Notice how Mel “thought” she apologized to Ish and the other coworkers let her know she didn’t. She had to stand on it in-front of everyone…which made Ish’s points more valid.
@@2LoveJones Joe definitely set them up 😂. Anyone who have been on watching how Joe thrives in chaos and how he moves for years 🤷🏾♂️.
@@2LoveJonesbut if you actually pay attention he did set her up as you said she had to stand on what she said that was the setup responsibility
Mel seems to constantly think her INTENTION to apologise is the apology
Women
@@TheDarkGBJcrazy women
The only apology he got was sorry for texting the wrong guy 😭😭😄
That's just narcissistic people
@@TheDarkGBJcan’t live with em, can’t live without em smh
She had fun reading everyone and Ish said something simple about something she actually did and she wanted to start yelling & having an attitude 😂
Gas lighting gone wrong.. she is a bird
@@GiftedRebelMusicshe’s not a “bird”. Women are emotional. Let her be
@@jayw.1042you’re right she’s a bird brain
@@GiftedRebelMusic.... Definitely a bird 🐦
Women can’t handle the truth about them but wanna dish it out on everyone else.
Joe being a narcissist & calling himself an empath is HILARIOUS
He 's more of an empath than Mel, Mel is a self proclaimed empath.....Joe really isn't that bad he's just a little bit of a nihilist.
@@j.e3336Joe doesn't even know what nihilist means. Lol He's definitely not an empath either. This sounds like an unevolved male take tbh 😂
That’s exactly what Narcissists do tho. 🤣
It just solidifies his narcissism 😂
@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX Joe knowing what nihilism means has nothing to do with if he is one. He's a good guy, but assumes the worst out of people so it creates issues, his faith in humanity is pretty low. Shit, Joe was a serial monogamous person for a while, a person like that is bound to have some jaded shit. I don't think that makes him not an empath tho. You're clearly not one tho😂
How Ish handled this situation was literally perfect how you handle this type of situation. It isnt easy at all, but this was a masterclass.
Absolutely perfect! Any emotion or misstep in wording could have derailed this quickly! He hit ALL points she still tried to defend it. We all go this everyday B!
@TonyVSTheWorld facts, I'm about to save this video for reminders. She was clearly wrong and kind of rude about being wrong too. He listened, didn't cut her off once. Wasn't emotional at all and stuck to facts. How he responded to her was WWAAYY more powerful than him trying to match her energy.
Lol. He was hot tho. 😂 smart move ish
@gifi11 what you know about handling situations? You don't have the answers sway !!
@@broabc66 😂😂 damn it's like that bro lol.
My girlfriend does this at times. I told her how guys think, and she dismisses it, then tries to explain to me how men think because she dated them or how her female friends talk about men.
But if i ever told her how women think, she tells me "I'm a woman how could you tell me how women think!" .
It's a no win situation. 😂 She'll be all the way wrong and just to avoid an argument I'll let it go. I don't think women realize how often men do this, so they believe they're in the right way more than they are.
Women.. we need them still
Bro this is just women in a nutshell, I used to think i was in an alternate universe with my fiancé til I seen this video, and read this comment, I am not alone lmaooo ..new documentary called surviving women lol
You nailed it, but you have GOT to STOP letting her feel like the winner. You’ll always lose, even when you’re right.
@@leolux09nah sometimes it’s better to let them have it lol. When we’re right, we’re wrong. When she’s wrong, she’s right. You can’t win with them 💀
You can't argue with a fool, it just goes in circles so just saying ok you right and walking away with your peace is actually a win@@leolux09
Flip calling joe “semantic man” was perfect
Maybe it would be if he actually knew what the word meant
@@deesee2051did he use it wrong?
@deesee2051 Not sure what you're getting at since he used it correctly.
I like how it was made clear that she never apologized to ish, like 20x flip said it and she still never apologized. Yet she claims she doesn’t have a problem taking accountability
That tells you everything you need to know
Lol she poding
And to top it off he was hinting at her to take accountability right then and there and apologise on the pod but she doubled down on being wrong. Which shows his other point that she was never really sorry
Ish was looking diabolical lol😂 the the demon grin 😂😂 planning
Salute to Ish! This was so necessary and on point. Love this clip
Same
Ish to Mel: So you saying you don't have a problem with accountability?
Mel: No
Ish: *laughs his ass off* 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love how chill Ish got. You can almost tell how when he argues he doesn’t yell
Ish is 1000% correct! We all go thru this as men. He handled this as perfect & as calm as humanly possible! Salute to him!
When Ish cleared his throat you know he bout to get down to the nitty gritty 😂
Let me clear my throat- biz markie 😂
Pause 😂
Ayoooo
Pause lmaoooo
He just like me. Lmao
20:50 Joe putting up his laptop between him & Mel lmaaooo hiding from the cringe but also loving & laughing every minute of it haha the best 😂😂😂
That part literally just passed I was smiling 😂😂😂
Salute to Ish for keeping it cool and dismantling her in the most articulate way possible. I wouldn’t have said another word to Mel until she gave me a formal apology. In person and on the pod.
It’s crazy because from Joe’s initial start of this conversation I’ve been on the edge of my seat waiting for Ish’s response cause this guy is articulate, aware, and he don’t back down so I’m getting my 🍿
This was hard to watch!!!!! She thought they were laughing with her… THEY WERE LAUGHING AT HER 😂😂😂
The fact that Ish sat there and let her get her shit off smiling the whole time and smoked her with class and grace is HILARIOUS dawg im dying the whole time because even after the examples she was dodging the A word lmao dawg i laughed so hard
That’s how you do those type of women
@@KeithEasley-vc1mb echo chamber of losers smh
Crazy part is she got all her sh*t off and still ended up upset and raising her voice 😂😂😂
He didn't speak to her points, he just proceeded to make his own points... both things happen on the pod.. and I think she takes alot from them especially when compared to the uptight chick with allegations on the network...
@janinejackson4739 she had no points to make she contradicted herself the whole time and then couldnt admit when she was wrong lol
Flip held his friend accountable in a non attacking way shit was dope. Mel bruh 😅😅 u proved ish point
😂😂😂
The fact that she tried to turn the word box into something offensive is crazy. When he asked if it was offensive she said "yeah" but when flip asked her how many people feel that way she looked stuck and then someone saved her
Dude, if you ain't a woman, sit this one out. You don't know what offends women.
Patrice O'Neal literally made jokes about sooooo much that is being discussed here 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shultz would give u the biggest hug 4 that 1😊 bro
Mentioning that name after the other is crazy
@@AlexSmith-lj1tyexactly cause he’s trash
Joe set her up and she was so hellbent on proving a point she didn't even see the trap card he put on the board 5 moves ago
Joe knows that too Mel always takes the bait.
Joe is smarter than her
I activate pot of greed
@@wrecclessescobar6252YUGIOH!
Ish was pissed after he heard that! His face is dead serious and his foot was shaking 😂he big mad 😡
lol facts the entire time he was waiting for his turn
Joe put her in the position. Joe is not an Empath! That was not fair no matter your opinion on her. She was asked then attacked
“She tried to kill my Black boy joy” 😂😂😂
Mel proved everything Ish said to be correct literally right after he said it. Ice and Flip pointed it out to her. She just don't wanna take ACCOUNTABILITY! 😂🤦🏾♂️
Sadly yes she talked for 15 minutes and he start deflecting and not answering 😂😂😂
Most women don’t
Yall literally proved her point too lol started jumping on her in the comments lol
I was watching this on another channel this morning and I kid you not bro I said the exact same shit 😭
Jesus will come back to earth before you see a woman take accountability
I just want to point out that we watched this whole video and She still hasn’t apologized 😂🤦🏻
haha🤣🤣
If you were genuinely sorry & found out your apology wasn't received via text/call. You'd simply apologize in person. Nobody in that room besides Mel recalls her apologizing to Ish "in the car lot". She could've apologized right there if she was sincere, instead she invested energy into convincing everyone she already did.
Ish is 100 percent right. I think the rest of the guys are taking this way to light by helping her joke her way out of being wrong
The big A word.
Facts!
They be saving her and flip be over doing it.
@@sdhsn774account inability
Everytime Joe said, "As an empath. . .", 😂🤣🤣
I’m glad Flip was there to hold her accountable.
lmao yup he was applying pressure 😂😂 !! she had like 8 different times to apologize and kept refusing it’s incredible
he has saved her so may times lol
He defended her then out the blue said where the apology? 😭 he switched fast
That "after 40 with a dry box" hurt Mel soul when Ish said that 😂. Also Ish not being on the pod that last 2 episodes is corny.
Why was he not on the pod for two days?
@@Djdnjskalskf He was in Portugal
@@MosMoney187cmon he was traveling 😂
He's on the new episode today.. I listened on SoundCloud
But he have been tight lately 😂
Shoutout ish for not saying a word for 16 minutes while being attacked but 3 minutes into him talking and making his point she attacks and jumps in
Ish foot was about to fly smooth off 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mel could’ve played cornerback for the Jets with that backpedaling work she just did 😂😂😂
Bruh!! 😂
She was trying to put Ish on Revis Island.
Sauce Ford 🧈
@@KingJuice215Sauce Ford is nuts 😂😂😂
@@KingJuice215😂😂😂😂
Lmao any time a group of “friends” have a “what I don’t like about this person” session…IT ALWAYS goes left. Case in point…
I remember some girl did that w me and I was like “yo we shouldn’t do this….” then she tried to be slick and say what she don’t like about me and say “oh my gosh…let me stop there I have so much…” I was like…”oh okay….” And told her all the shit about her. She stormed out and we ain’t talk for weeks. We hooked up like a year later.
Ish and Mel like eachother confirmed lmao
Mel clearly didn’t apologize. She called the wrong # they established she was calling the wrong # but where did she ever say that she actually apologized…. That accountability
Ish sitting there boiling .. waiting to unleash.. he wasnt even laughing at all
I just started watching full episodes of the JBP, and Ish has quickly become my favorite member of the squad. Dude is very calculated with his words. It wouldn't surprise me to find out he was part of the Cancer gang ♋️
Same! I just started watching full episodes and Ish is my fav….he reppin Newark proud for us…..I hope he part of the #CancerGang
He a Capricorn
We are blessed to watch Ish. He will continue to evolve spiritually, financially, and monetarily.
That's because he's your light skinned brother
Mel: “fair isn’t involved in this”
Also Mel: I’m the only girl, and it’s sometimes feel like y’all tell me I’m wrong when y’all feel like I’m wrong”
😂😂😂😂 she chatting for content
Yeah when she said that I was like WHAT?! That was crazy 😂😂😂😂
She then clarified saying her opinion isn’t fair bc it’s an opinion which is why fair isn’t involved different from being 1 against 7. Even though I agree w Ish more here just wanted to point tht out
Misandrist is to male what misogynist is to female.
I'm with Ish on this one🤦🏾♂️
Surprise surprise surprise.
Incel
Facts… shorty is a straight gas lighter…. She tried to gas light him and it didn’t work
Mel will rewatch this and think everyone except for her was tripping lol
Let this be a lesson gentlemen…. They will never apologize. It’s not in them. 😂
Dawg...Ish sat there quietly and just let her cook and then 😂😂😂😂
Flamed her weird ass.
Bumped her away from the stove and said 🗣️GET OUT MY KITCHEN!!!!🗣️
Thats how it usually goes down 😂
They to just go n have sex
Ish and Mel need a Pod together it’d be called the “Happily Divorced” podcast and they argue and flirt and shit lol
I said the same! If Joe wants to expand the “network” he gotta give them 2 their own platform but those 2 together!
Joe is soooo important. The empath carrying the emotional weight of the world. This is why we Love you Joe. Mood Muzik!!!! 😂🤣
Mel is the typical baddie that you want and once you get her she lame and you can’t wait to get away from her
Basically most bitches lol
The laugh alone might turn u off lol
Lol i juss see why she single ! She nice to look at but she prob can be a headache
She's 46 and single, that tells you everything you need to know about her.
That's women period
I actually am enjoying them calling her out because she’s been getting away with way too much for too long
After he cleared his throat and Joe started laughing that’s when I knew it was finna get bad 😂😂😂😂😂
Just because a person is angry doesn't mean they are incorrect. One could easily say Mel's perspective is highlighted by past traumatic experiences which is why she is seeing Ish in this way. It really has nothing to do with Ish and everything to do with the emotion Mel is experiencing because of his tone.
Bingo
With the pod as a whole ish is the most misogynistic and the most hurt by women in his past and it bleeds all over his narratives 🤷🏿♂️
Mel some bullshit that's it 😂
@@bladebrown8247why u think no one here in Canada cares about her
@@TyBarnett-js8di misogyny in of itself doesn't make his points invalid or wrong if that were even true. It is possible to hate a person for good reason. To the original point saying bitch or box isn't a indicator of hate. It's more a reflection of Mel's interpretation emotional feeling toward those words. Coming into a male dominated space and asking men to curb their language is ridiculous. If she don't like the way men talk and it triggers her then get off the show simple! Easy fix
Ish and Mel gotta sneak out one afternoon and link at the room to get past this shit lol
Nah fr 😭
They just might..😂 We seen this all the time! Lol
Frfr, that shit seems so obvious lmao
She wanna be tamed by Ish so damn bad. All this disdain is from the lack of pipe 😂
@@stuartmcclearyshe asking for it? 😂😂
The laughing ain’t make it no better 😂😂😂😂
Mel poked bears her whole life and got away with it. It effects her deep down that she’s doesn’t have the same pull. She’s quite literally a professional BIRD 🐦
Respectfully
That's perfectly put yo
Beautiful older women are DANGEROUS.
@@blissdad13nothing to do with age. She’s used her looks to advance in life. She never makes a valid point. Useless for the show
@@peta-gayrobinson502 right. We agree. The point is when they are young and beautiful they get away with it. That's why they are more dangerous when they are old. They have a hard time adjusting
Ish face expression before he responded was priceless
The look on the rest of them, when Mel said Ice was the most evolved, was priceless! Lol
"We got her" 😩😭😭 that's was embarrassing to watch cos Mel was doing her best to not understand 🙈
She's been getting away with shit like that for a very long time. When faced with dealing with fraction of her BS she resorts to shaming tactics.
At the beginning I see where she was trying to go.. she was basically trying to say how the jbp can grow their woman audience but she didn't convey that message very good.. then it went downhill once ish got on her
@@GoodClipsTVthey don’t realize when they aren’t being open to being wrong . I don’t think the team up be intentional, but it’s just the dynamics with 5 guys and 1woman . Melissa only flaw is when she capes fit women no matter what , outside of that she’s usually the most logical next to ish
@@GoodClipsTVYa essentially no one took responsibility
Just so yall know that thing still get wet at 40
It's crazy how goofy comments proved her right. Y'ALL ARE HORRIBLE
I knew Joe was gonna start rappin to that beat 😂
Parks asked what the opposite of misogyny was and Mel said “no” 😂 it’s called misandry
That's an internet created term. If you don't know what words mean what historically backed systemic institutionalized discrimination is just say so
yup that part went over a lot of peoples heads im glad u pointed that out
@@brooklyndecember just tell us the word educate us instead of talking shit
Women will say “manplain” like how else does man explain 🤣🤣 women don’t think were different unless it’s to their benefit
I love how Ish was able to control himself as Mel kept talking about him.
Yo...the way this dude checked her for her double standard. The way he sat back, collected his thoughts and then unleashed an elegant spill. He put her and women who think like her in line the best way he could without being attacked. I like how this dude thinks. And reacted. He's 100% right. If a man went around and did what she just did that shit would have went viral. Smh.
This was the only way, cool and calm because the minute his voice goes up in volume, hes attacking poor lil ol mel. In this time, men arent allowed to defend themselves when a woman “criticizes” them because when they do, they are told they are mansplaining, deflecting, or get hit with shame and guilt tatics
@@kant5696 preach... Speak your truth
I haven’t even started watching this clip yet(I like to pause it and read comments once I get like 2 mins in lol) but I somehow agree with you based off the pretty girl privilege of Melissa alone lol SN: She is bad doe 😂🤷🏿♂️
He sat back like Jada did to the Diplomats
Question for eveyone. I agree with Ish too but I want my fellow mens perspective on this. Is this comment section not proving Mel's point too (not all her points but some). I can objectively say that Mel did have some valid points that went unaddressed or we changed through semantics. But as you can see, majority of the comments on the actual video and this comment section are going against Mel without acknowledging some of the legit points she made, we all just talking about Ish points. For example, we're all men, to loosely quote what Ish said he finds it strange that Mel can disagree with them despite 7 men from different walks of life saying the same thing. Fair, but then Mel says that all her girl friends who watch the pod agree about her points of "bitch" & "box" (including my girl lol) but that gets skipped over. We can't lie, it helps that majority of that room and this audience is male and I feel like she can be in a tough spot that they can't relate too cause majority is men. I mostly agree with Ish but she did have a point there. What y'all think?
Ish doesn't say ANYTHING AT ALL until 16:26 Time Stamp.....he just got *hammered* for 16 minutes
Yeah I respect that …& he didn’t even interrupt lol he waited patiently
very tactical lol
@@Mayo2014and when he tried to talk Mel couldnt stfu lol 😂
Lol because keeping quiet a lot of the times especially when someone is running their mouth ends up with them looking foolish and saying a bunch of stupid things they later wish they never even said😂 God gave people two ears and one mouth for a reason, when you actually listen to people and then let them continue to talk they eventually reveal themselves
He actually asks a question about the demo at 14:25 but your basic point still remains where he speaks continuously after that
Ish killed this 😂😂😂
Mel has been getting away with "pretty privilege" for so long she's blinded by it. She truly believes everything she thinks & feels is fact and no other perspective matters.
You mean the same way Ish is a know it all?
@@NursePN09like she wasn’t ran through in the industry 😂😂😂😂
@@LouisianaInNOutShe didn’t let them hit, she was just a tease back then 🥲
@@LouisianaInNOut Anytime a woman sleeps with more than 2 men, she's "ran through".🙄 ESPECIALLY if she's someone y'all can never get.
@@NursePN09 2?! Stop it. Every rapper was hitting that and you KNOW IT.
This is so crazy to me. People make things much harder than they need to be. Mel does not get the fact that "intending to apologize". Ok Mel, let's say your apology WAS going to the wrong phone #...that means Ish never got it so instead of spending 20 mins going back and forth on how you INTENDED and TRIED to apologize, just apologize now...face to face, on air.
Never. Females never apologize
@@zuibeckpulezon4626 Please do not generalize ALL females. I am a female and I have no problem apologizing. "Generalizations from both parties...(men and women) is a very big part of the communication problems that exist between males and females". It's very unfortunate.
Ish and Mel are like that old married couple that hate each other but will never divorce.
The way Ish leg was shaking 😂😂😂😂😂
He was patient!
You peep that... That was the cook up.
LMAOO i was dying
Cause he one of them guys😂😂😂😂
🤣 that damn foot
This hit too close to home. Too many times have I felt like having an opinion is going to be labeled as an excuse, so I just keep it to myself
That part
Same!! All guys go thru this & it's pointless to even say anything. Not like they'll ever ACTUALLY take accountability
@@TonyVSTheWorld ugh! Where’s y’all accountability? Stfup
Facts!
I feel the same way
I PRAY SHE HAS LEARNED HOW SHE DODGED ACCOUNTABILITY. This will prevent her being in a long term relationship, it means everything.
Saying box is trauma related?! 😂😂
to Mel it is supposedly
Bird box
Bento box
Box Chevy
Joe is a true instigator lol he set this up! I hated Mel on the show at first , then I find myself defending her when they don’t let her speak. But she spoke in circles here and was off. She totally missed the mark. Ish being quiet and shaking his foot should have warned her.
“In terms of evolution “ got me crying over here lol had the same reaction as joe !!!😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yo, that shit made me chuckle. And I busted a gut when I heard it tickled Joe too lmaoo
Pause
As a UA-cam only nigga I’ve been wondering for so long why this legendary “bitch box” episode has so much hype.
Was also wondering where the name bitch box came from…
It all make so much sense now 😭🔥
When my dude said..."LIFE!!" I lost it😂😂😂 I'm over here crying.. cause it's true
Just about every episode I’m like “WTF is Mel saying” 😂
they just lettin her yap
I use to defend her but my god
@@deontajohnson5537 this to much lol
@@Newbornvintage18 like ish was saying nobody wants to be in the hot seat, which makes it harder to challenge women on certain topics
Because she doesn't be saying anything.
She is telling the truth. If you're a grown mature man you can see where she is coming from. Any man over 30 who is still calling women B's all the time doesn't really respect women.
Same with women though disrespecting man. Both genders need have accountability instead always pointing and picking ..
Definitely depends on the setting it was used, esp on these group of people who seem friends and it’s all in the open. Mel was reaching hard till it all backfired
Ish got all defensive.
I disagree because they will call each other that all day long like it's there last name and it is so classless to me.
@@all4you33and that's exactly what Ish was talking about. If he says anything he'll be labelled defensive. And you have proven his point.
Melissa failed miserably at this... she was trying to gaslight the hell out of ish. As a woman I'm disappointed 😂 he read the ish out of her! Sadly, she's too selfish to realize it.
I see what you did there! BARZ! Lol
U are not a woman lmao "selfish"??? it's a podcast stop projecting sry about ur mom though
@@user-lg3rx2ko5g lmao you on multiple comments defending this woman 😂 she doesn’t know you at all lmfao that taking accountability hit home for you huh
You itches always have to add "as a woman" Pickmesha. Hush
@@NursePN09 here you go name calling! Because a woman is being held accountable by women! Do you have a opinion on the topic mam????
Ish's response was on point. A true example of the society that we live in where the perceived weaker group can say and do what they like and when faced with accountability they play the victim card
not really
@alem18 True
TRUTH
@@Peopleofthesun386 yes really 🤣
the story of being black.
The way ish started to slowly warm up that oven before pulling out them muffins was a masterclass
And she’s being aggressive and screaming at him but if he start screaming at her it will be a big deal.
Ish handled that like a real man should, Mel has the freedom to judge then she should know she’s being judged too
Lmao! Ish acts like a real man? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm still listening and she is spot on about the words men use when they don't like women
I agree. I know a guy like this. Only sees women as objects and for sex yet speaks very badly of them.
You can tell Ish is just waiting on his moment. He wasn’t laughing wasn’t showing any emotions just waiting to speak his peace. He’s extremely conscious on every level. I didn’t care for him at first but I have grown to really like him.
How long have you been watching the show? Serious question so I can get a gauge on what clips I should post more of
I’m with Ish, love how the guys held Mel accountable, Ben though she didn’t apologize.
The fact she STILL didn’t apologize while tip was saying u didn’t apologize was hilarious. Like that’s your opening! Lol
Joe finally listened. He knows they are misogynistic! lol He knows. Nobody is playing these Virgo games with Joe today!
FACTS!!
They don’t hate women. Stop using buzzwords just for the sake of using them.
This relationship between them all is great it’s a healthy/toxic blend 😂😭
C.O.E😭😭
COE 😂
@@miahdona8161 C.O.E frfr lmao all the haters be looking for that one reason to make a story 😭
Healthy toxic? Lmao
@@godexhibitsit's called coe content over everything
As a 100% natural born female, the term box is 0% offensive to me. Matter of fact, it’s quite hilarious
i could understand as a man why a women would see it like that but i cant understand the word female not being okay to use, Like i understand its more animalistic then human but it rolls off tongue jus fine i feel as if the only reason people dont say male as much is cause its easier to say men
@@kingpimpskinnypimp5329and women just sounds too respectful of title for some of these broads but calling them b-tches is a tad too far so it's better to just call them females. It's the best middle ground. Like some dudes shouldn't be called men but n-ggas, dudes, boys, etc.
Mel was being extra to appease the audience.. as usual
I think the term is hilarious too. Lmao. And more sensor than the P-word
I call it a hot box every now and again 😂😂😂😂😂
Mel is a true representation of a lot of women in today's society. She wants to be the victim and also the villain. She doesn't take accountability. She will duck and dodge and lie to benefit her. The way fans protect her is also part of the issue. And when anyone comes for her she starts getting loud as a defensive mechanism. And she just contradicted herself while talking to Flip. She initially said she apologized to Ish on the show. Now she's saying she did it in person and didn't get to it on the show. See man. She doesn't need to handled with kid gloves, she needs to held accountable so her and her girls know there's a no fly zone.
Reminds me: Victims and Villains by Musiq Soulchild out now
Factsss
Who are “her girls”?
She’s (Mel) smarter than most give her credit for. “Box” is demeaning to some, similar to the way niiga is used. And ED is a factual condition; Box is a physical thing that carries perception. Too bad the guys didn’t pick up the nuance
I think this cam situation proved you right long ago
Joe is like the King of setup
huge instigator
Ish is a fucking legend!!!
The "Bitch, Box" ad library during the music was legendary.