Very true. As an alternative, Wiha sells individual replacement bits that I've found to be of good quality. However, they are somewhat expensive for what they are, typically costing around $2 per bit, with some priced at more than twice that.
@@andrews3137 i hate how normalized it's becoming to make any individual unit a commodity and jack up the price 200-500%. because in a year or two they jack up the "bulk" price accordingly. people who drank their way through college frat parties for 4 years are the mf'ers coming up with this shit and profiting from it.
The LTT parts tray lid also sits flat unlike the curved iFixit with the ability to see-saw launch those little screws into oblivion with the wrong clumsy tap. -No comment how I found that out..
Never had that issues with my ifixdriver set and I use it 4-5 times a week as a I repair electronics tvs game consoles and even guitars and amps and guitar pedals
The one thing you missed of note: The LTT bits have a shorter hex shank and longer shafts for slightly more reach, you might even notice that when you put them into the ifixit handle they almost seem like they go in too far. Both sets have significantly longer shaft to shank ratios than most cheap sets like Fantik and other stuff on Amazon, but LTT went a little further with it. LTT also includes a really nice magnetic 1/4" shank to 4mm adapter that's a lot better than the ifixit version. I'm actually kind of impressed by LTTs pricing, for something that undoubtably costs more to make and at a much lower volume, it's not THAT much more expensive. Still, there's nothing about the upgrades LTT made that anyone really NEEDS - both kits are going to get the job done, and neither one is really going to save you much time. It's really just a matter of whether or not you are willing to pay a bit more for the "ultimate" form of a product, or if you are happy with what is already a very good one.
In most of the videos where Linus talks about the development of the LTT precision screwdriver, he says that he is not trying to compete with I fix it that they sell the screwdriver by itself in case somebody already has an iFixit kit and just wants a slightly better screwdriver, and that they specifically size the handle so that it could fit in the iFix screwdriver kit as a replacement for the screwdriver.
The critical thing for me in these precision screwdriver sets is the quality and hardness of the bits. I've broken several tines of the T7 / T8 bits in the Ifixit kits. They're no good for screws that are stuck - it doesn't take much pressure to bend / snap the tines. I'm still looking for a really good set of bits.
I feel like the drivers are different enough to not call it a rip off. Knafs makes a precision screwdriver for knife maintenance and they stated they took inspiration from the Ifixit driver. No drama around that, I think people are bothered by the kits but it’s hard to say someone’s copying driver bits since they have to work on the screws people need them to.
@@jarofaar8618 There's no ripping off a common and simple tool that's been around for like 70 years. Its just a bunch of people making up ways to hate the guy because they can't like him to begin with.
Ive spent a lot of time with the ifixit and never found it lacking but as soon as i got the ltt kit i noticed it is in every way an improvment. The tray is far better the machining is nicer the anodizing feels nicer the bearing is great and the bit storage is awesome. i always keep my driver in my shirt pocket at work so not having to keep the 3 bits i use constantly loose in my pocket is the real game changer for me. That being said i dont think anyone would be making a mistake saving a little dosh and going with the ifixit. Also i really hope they make an optional pocket clip for it at some point
I think this is a really good way to put it. The ifixit kit is pretty much as good as you could need, there aren't any real defects (well, except the lid doesn't always fit right), LTT just went "okay, but what if we made it more expensive?" for the lols. It's better, and you pay for it. Not so much a competing product as it is a "well if you have the money and want to treat yourself" option.
Tiny screwdrivers are one of those things I will spend money on and get a set which will last forever. Stripping a little screw with a hokey driver can be a nightmare. I like the Wiha made in Germany line or a set from Vessel made in Japan.
One issue I had with my iFixIt was that the flats don’t stabilize it or keep it from rolling on a flat surface since they are suspended by the round spinner and tip. It’s always rolling off when I need it. I would have loved to see a side by side roll test!
I do not think the flats are there to prevent rolling. There's some that like registration with tools. Sometimes you have to count turns too and then it helps to have a reference on the tool to gauge off of. The flats could simply be a design detail too.
@@emmettturner9452 It would be handy. Then again I don't think it is a big ask to have a level work surface to do delicate work on. Things really shouldn't be rolling around.
It’s heavy and has more momentum than the other stuff that gets pushed around while working on my bench. As I move things on my level work surface and it gets bumped/pushed it’ll just keep going until it rolls off the edge. 🤦♂️
The screwdriver has been around for over 600 years. The spinning cap has been a popular design for ~70 years and the first one likely dating back far longer. No one is ripping off anyone. Just a bunch of people filling their emptiness with hate because they'd rather feel hate than nothing at all. Because it's basically the same thing and three days grace knows what they're talking about.
I don't why people are so quick to say things are a rip off. There are only so many ways to make things, and if someone makes a thing in a way that's good, does that somehow mean someone else isn't allowed to also make something good? One could argue maybe that LTT didn't NEED to make a precision driver kit, after all the ifixit is already really good. Unlike the larger ratcheting driver that they made specifically because Linus couldn't find a screwdriver that was perfect enough for him, I think they only really made the precision because fans asked for it. But just because they didn't need to do it, doesn't mean they just copied ifixit. They sell T-shirts too, I don't see anyone getting upset that they are ripping off... everyone else ever that makes shirts.
I bought a wiha kit when I began working on electronics full time. Years later all the bits are still intact the correct shape. None of the dozens of ifixit and chinesium spares I’ve bought since can say the same
Since i went on amazon to find one years ago, i paid 25 dollars for. Has a hard case with bits that lay down and the case locks. Has a metal driver and nice bits
I have fastener organizers for certain stuff, but just started just using small jars sorted into general types. I’m not allowed to buy fastener cases, rollaways, and tools unless I really need them.
The iFixit kit is better as a desktop/workbench kit. While the driver and bits are solid, the lack of hinge or clasp makes the case a liability on the road. The flexible extension is super useful for impossibly located hardware. My road bag has Klein's 64 bit mini driver and ratchet kit, #32787.
Mines lived in my back pack and never had any problems. I have knocked it off a table many times and had a handfull of bits scattered everywhere though
I also have the small ifixit set in my toolbag. To stop it from separating I just put a piece of electrical tape on the sides. Holds it together well enough and the adhesive isn't sticky enough to be hard to remove when i need it.
I own and use both, and for me, the LTT set wins. The longer shaft on the bits is very useful and it comes with the bits that better fit my use-case. The lid is nicer and detachable which I never thought I'd care about but I use that feature quite often, I just wish the magnetic material was a bit stronger to hold screws. I've stripped the iFixit bits while attempting to remove recalcitrant stuck screws too, not so LTT (yet), and the foam material seems nicer, I wish they'd inked/colored the icons though, not just embossed them. And there are several I KNOW I'll never use, I guess screws are different in the great white north. Haven't used the bit storage in the LTT, but it looks like it'll take standard 4mm bits and I have several I use a lot from other kits that will find their way into the storage area. The knurling grip could be deeper/more coarse on LTT, perhaps extend a bit higher up the shaft too, but they both feel okay.
this was a good and felt a fair review of the products.. i was seeing the LTT kit and i was curious of how nice it was Vs the Ifixit. the case it self and the extended narrow length of each bit is a high selling point for LTT . but for the price is steep Vs what you could get with with ifixit case if you wanted a fully trusted brand that won't 100% brake your bank.. strong points on both ends
As someone that owned a ifix it kit when you could only buy direct from them before they went retail: great kit. As someone that owns both. LTT is better. As someone that’s owned a Klein precision screw drivers BEFORE both LTT and Ifixit where existed but are better. But there is this idea that Ifixit invented the precision screw drivers and they didn’t. They saw a product that needed improvement and made a better one. LTT saw a product that needed improvements and made a better one. People need to get this idea that Ifixit invented the precision screwdriver out of there head I don’t understand where that’s coming from. If anything someone can argue that both companies, first Ifixit stole there idea from Klein. Because Klein was first and Ifixit it looks like a copy of Klein. It’s honestly why Ifixit has not come out and formal made any accusations against LTT because they would be put under the same chopping block.
Have a Kobalt driver set with an insane array of bits that I use for my computer and hardware needs. Have a ratcheting screwdriver that holds the bits by a spring clip. Good combo. Also have a Gamers Nexus silicone mat for computer/electrical work, the “squares” on the May work well
Even though the magnet latches are slick, that's a feature for a bench kit. I'd much rather have a physical latch for a mobile kit. Magnets are cooler but less functional. As far as which is better, I'm not sure it matters. Anything you are using a precision bit on is very low torque. You don't need a strong driver. I just want it to ratchet and spin. The SIM Pin was nice touch though.
I've never been a fan of the ifxit box, not only does the lack of hinge mean the lid can come fully off by accident, they didn't put a large enough lip around the edge which makes it slide right off very easily and on some of them it never really closes quite right. I really liked the ifixit driver originally, I think the older version has a bearing in the head where it spins and the newer ones don't. It was never as good as the LTT one is, but I find it a little sad that they changed it.
The big thing here isn’t people seem to forget that ifixit did not create the precision screwdriver kit(surprise) they just created a really great one. Ltt just made another one with improvements they wanted. I will say in my eyes (without owning the ltt) the ifixit precision screwdrivers have always seemed lacking/basic. They work fine but do nothing over a standard precision driver. And the older silver precision driver was very rough.
It seems like the precision screwdriver is like their other screwdriver. What you are paying for is a screwdriver made by someone very critical of screwdrivers, and made their own perfect tool. It's very well thought through, and that doesn't come cheap, and it isn't going to be a good buy for everyone.
@FunkFPV Well I'm halfway there with the beer belly, and halfway with the cash. Just one thing, Will I be able to get a decent pickup truck with manual gears? Fu*k The automatic track.
Every time I use my $25 no-name kit I expect to damage some very important screw in a laptop or whatever. Or, maybe the cheap bit. But, haven't destroyed any, yet. Biggest problem is the cheap Costco reading glasses I try to tighten have nuts that are randomly different sizes that don't all match to any of the bits in my kit. Or in my 10yo ifixit kit. It's probably cheaper to replace the glasses every couple years than find and pay for a mini kit with more hex sizes.
Both are great products honestly. I certainly prefer the LTT one, but it's marginal and subjective enough that I'm happy recommending either one personally. You're not gonna go wrong no matter which one of the two you get.
The LTT one has some features that make it nicer. I don't know if they justify the price. But if anyone values those features then yes. You're potentially going to own it for decades. So paying some more at the outset hardly matters in the long run. 20 or 30 years from now you're not going to miss the difference.
ive got the ifixit kit, that flex thingy id useless, had a screw on my pc case that was almost flat against the case wall, the flex thing would just twist and coil. extra pressure on the driver and two handed twist got it out. would have bought the ltt one if i didnt already have the ifixit. the ifixit lid isnt flat, so as a organizer while working its kinda useless, ltt just did a better job, like you said, more refined.
...not that they'd be considered "clones" but I've seen white labeled versions of European tools with American brands that have a premium markup compared to the German and Spanish original manufacturers products... I'm sure this happens all the time with Taiwanese tools as well, but I'm specifically thinking of Irega adjustable wrenches and NWS pliers. From several different brands but notably Klein and Milwaukee.
@@profosistSorry, I didn't mean to imply that I was talking about the LTT precision screwdriver. I should have specified that I was responding to the following statement made in the video: "To start off, if you're gonna do a clone of something, why would you charge $10 more than the original? That would be the first time in history that ever happened." Edit: I understand that the quoted statement is likely hyperbole, but I replied to it as a point of note anyway.
"Why would you create a clone and charge more?" Because of the name.. Not like Gucci is objectively worth anything, not like Rolex is actually a watch worth owning. LTT charges more because they can, not because it's inherently better (it might be, I don't own both sets to compare, but the argument and logic is flawed). From someone who didn't see the original video and wasn't part of the angry commenting crowd it feels you kinda proved them right. The bits are stored in a similar way. The drivers look eerily alike. Both use the magnet style lid. From this armchair here it looks like LTT looked at the iFixIt kit and iterated in the smallest possible way on it, then increased the price by quite a bit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I .. would buy the iFixIt, will order one for Christmas
There is better foam padding on the ifixit kits that are larger. I own 2 of them. Also the premium version is better because it has a wrap around case one of my kits is premium. I believe ifixit has a lifetime guarantee on their set. I don't think the LTT one has that.
Months ago some crackhead “borrowed” and never returned my aluminum driver for my bigger iFixit Mako set… and I just couldn’t bring myself to buy a replacement (too expensive). I didn’t even realize he still had it at the time since he said he only needed my Pittsburgh Pro nut drivers (the only ones he returned). Like you, I bought a whole other iFixIt set only to realize it came with a plastic driver (mine was the “Electronics Essential” kit). During BF I was genuinely interested in the bare LTT driver handle as a replacement but it was EVEN MORE expensive. In the end I got a whole other Mako set from a salvage store but I still want to get another to complete my original set.
Never loan tools. That is in the 10 commandments of being a man. Thou shalt not loan tools. You can give tools away. Here, keep it. But if you want it back don't loan it out. Or you can loan with the expectation of never seeing it again. But if you really want it back then never loan it out in the first place. Most of the time if you get it back it's just because they broke it or effed it up somehow. They'll usually complain about how your tool was somehow lacking and didn't meet their expectations too. There's just too much downside to loaning tools. Ubermensch have loaner tools. Crappy tools they have no problem loaning. Yeah sure take this.
Yep. That’s just it: I didn’t intend to and would have said “no way” since I use it almost daily. He was using it on a trimmer in the back of my van when I dropped him off in town on my way to work. He said he only needed the nut drivers, which I was willing to just give away. Turns out he took the iFixIt driver handle with the exact Security Torx bit I use almost daily for rebuilding DeWALT batteries. Came back to the workshop to find only the nut drivers left at my door. 🤦♂️The other moral of the story is don’t give schizos whacked out crazies a ride to town just because you’re going that way already.
@@emmettturner9452 some people are definitely a liability to get involved with. Their dark cloud rains on your parade. Some are armored against that sort of thing. Some of us aren't.
refining of such products is sometimes much easier than bringing the initial product to the market i feel like LTT team would not have gotten to such a good product without a strong template by iFixit team (unless somebody from LTT team shows the world that they ordered a lot of other comparators sets and show us how they selected the bits for usage i will stick to this opinion)
LTT use drivers every day and so designed and refined one that was perfect for not just their needs but what they imagine users need. The case is designed by someone who knows the value of not losing the screws you are removing in a lie flat tray. I have bluepoint, snapon and milwaukee precision drivers and if I was going to add a set then I would be more inclined to go for the LTT over the ifixit. The ifixit CEO is crying because he thinks his monopoly is broken.
There's no such thing as a right to repair. Either you can repair something or you can't. That's down to personal ability. It isn't a right that can be granted to anyone.
I kinda find that ifixit ceo stance on, I don't want any legit competition. I think the screwdriver is different enough to not be called clone. And this video only added the proof of that..
Why didn't you put the premium LTT driver in the small mini iFixit kit If the premium LTT drivers the better out of the two I would have done that It wouldn't look as matched but if you're going for efficiency and convenience I would have put the LTT deluxe driver in the ifixit case
Do you have a freestyle section? I swore I signed up for drone videos and I get hilarious tool and fool reviews instead. *edit - i found them. So it was wings. Bring it back bro. And who is the guy flying? Lol
I don't like any youtuber products to begin with, but looking at the warranty info on their website the LTT screwdriver has a very strict lifetime warranty that doesn't include the bits. I have the ifixit kit and one of my bits broke, I sent them an email and all they asked for was a picture of the kit and they sent me a new bit free of charge in 3 days. I would understand if the LTT kit was priced more competitively but it's 10 dollars more and you get a far worse warranty. Not too impressed.
Picked up a set of 4mm precision bits with an electric driver at one of those discount stores (Action, for those residing in the Netherlands) for like twelve bucks. Was very impressed with the quality. Sorry Linus. I won't be buying yours.
Ifixit is just a cheap nasty knockoff of the Vessel precision screwdriver set. The Vessel product has a proper box with a secure latch and fits into a shirt pocket comfortably. And its not made in chiyna. 🇯🇵
When working on small electronics all day, the superiority of LTT's bits becomes apparent. The fact that the shank is just long enough to fit in the driver, and then the rest of the bit is neck and head makes it much easier to fit into tight screw holes in the cases of devices.
@@cumulusvapes7 lol I posted a comment on this but apparently UA-cam deleted it. I keep on having comments that disappear or I comment but it never appears. I think that's shadow banning right?
It's cute to wanna support other creators, but it's not worth the extra cash. LTT is a lesser kit in all ways other than magnet on the tray. Also the kit is $60 when not on sale, plus shipping, so they're charging $20+ more for their knockoff. And the ifixit driver actually has a usable neck, instead of the nub on the LTT one. Calling people who prefer the ifixit one "cheap" is wild.
I picked up the LTT driver for the the iFixit kit. For my uses though I think the case is actually the reason to upgrade, not the driver. I have no need for the internal storage and ergonomically I prefer the iFixit metal driver. The coarser knurling is also a bit more towards my taste which is a bummer since LTT knocked that out with their ratcheting driver. The fact that the case is flat and that it stacks as well as has the magnet material is a significant improvement. The orange is just easier to identify the bits as well. Ive got at least 3 various iFixit kits around that I user personally and professionally and have been using them since they rebranded the same set everyone else was selling on aliexpress/amazon. I do not like the new plastic/rubber driver. The big thing for them if you use it regularly is that they have a lifetime warranty on the bits. The bit may only be better than chineseium but when they do strip they just send you a new one. Also if its basically something you have to have Best Buy and other carry them in store. For work each tech has one thats provided and there's an extra at the office to snipe bits from if needed while we get replacements. I think that one is lacking its driver by now as well...
Lol funny, I commented about the iFixit kit on your LTT vid, glad to see an actual comparison! (Though I have the bigger iFixit kit, with about the same size bit set as the LTT, and with a few other electronic fixing tools)
I'd actually run the opposite way of anything that has to do with LTT. It's time to switch to people with integrity who don't sacrifice accuracy and thoroughness for more videos like Linus. He is a shining example of self proclaimed "good tech tubers" turning greedy. Although he's not anywhere near MKBHD who's now a criminal who drove 96 miles in a 35 mile zone and tried to edit out the speed, got caught, removed the video, got caught and said f u, Linus will reach that point soon. The more merch he can sell, the faster he's going to turn
Linus told in his videos that they decided to make their driver compatible exactly with the ifixit bits , it seems that is some variations between different brands due to confusion on outer size specification so they chose to go matchy matchy with iFixit
You buy the bit kit without the driver once you've lost the 4 bits you actually use, lol
Very true. As an alternative, Wiha sells individual replacement bits that I've found to be of good quality. However, they are somewhat expensive for what they are, typically costing around $2 per bit, with some priced at more than twice that.
@@andrews3137 i hate how normalized it's becoming to make any individual unit a commodity and jack up the price 200-500%. because in a year or two they jack up the "bulk" price accordingly. people who drank their way through college frat parties for 4 years are the mf'ers coming up with this shit and profiting from it.
Speaking of, I wonder if Sunex sells good refills on their bits haha
You really nailed that “Oh crap it’s almost Monday”
The LTT parts tray lid also sits flat unlike the curved iFixit with the ability to see-saw launch those little screws into oblivion with the wrong clumsy tap. -No comment how I found that out..
Haha That’s a good very good point I didn’t think of 😜
Was going to say the same👍🏻
Also the parts tray is magnetic so if it flies whatever is in it hopefully does not come out. Lol!
Never had that issues with my ifixdriver set and I use it 4-5 times a week as a I repair electronics tvs game consoles and even guitars and amps and guitar pedals
have the big ifixit kit at work, the flexi shaft is great to throw the little magnet on the end that also comes with the kit.
The one thing you missed of note: The LTT bits have a shorter hex shank and longer shafts for slightly more reach, you might even notice that when you put them into the ifixit handle they almost seem like they go in too far. Both sets have significantly longer shaft to shank ratios than most cheap sets like Fantik and other stuff on Amazon, but LTT went a little further with it. LTT also includes a really nice magnetic 1/4" shank to 4mm adapter that's a lot better than the ifixit version. I'm actually kind of impressed by LTTs pricing, for something that undoubtably costs more to make and at a much lower volume, it's not THAT much more expensive. Still, there's nothing about the upgrades LTT made that anyone really NEEDS - both kits are going to get the job done, and neither one is really going to save you much time. It's really just a matter of whether or not you are willing to pay a bit more for the "ultimate" form of a product, or if you are happy with what is already a very good one.
In most of the videos where Linus talks about the development of the LTT precision screwdriver, he says that he is not trying to compete with I fix it that they sell the screwdriver by itself in case somebody already has an iFixit kit and just wants a slightly better screwdriver, and that they specifically size the handle so that it could fit in the iFix screwdriver kit as a replacement for the screwdriver.
The only tool review i know i can 100% trust
That's a fact. Mister Funk is always straightforward!
Can’t forget Project Farm
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Him and project farm, yes
The critical thing for me in these precision screwdriver sets is the quality and hardness of the bits. I've broken several tines of the T7 / T8 bits in the Ifixit kits. They're no good for screws that are stuck - it doesn't take much pressure to bend / snap the tines.
I'm still looking for a really good set of bits.
can confirm. I've broken about 20 of the p2 bits from the ifixit kits working on iphones qq
Wiha are great
@@snomobilaAre they as good now that their made in Vietnam,.have you compared the old German made with the new Asian bits.
I feel like the drivers are different enough to not call it a rip off. Knafs makes a precision screwdriver for knife maintenance and they stated they took inspiration from the Ifixit driver. No drama around that, I think people are bothered by the kits but it’s hard to say someone’s copying driver bits since they have to work on the screws people need them to.
@@jarofaar8618 There's no ripping off a common and simple tool that's been around for like 70 years. Its just a bunch of people making up ways to hate the guy because they can't like him to begin with.
There is an overlap here. Not only it is aproximately the same field of activity, but iFixIt was and still is a sponsor of LTT.
The Quinn version of that iFixit kit from Harbor Freight seems to be the best value. 🤑🤑🤑
Ive spent a lot of time with the ifixit and never found it lacking but as soon as i got the ltt kit i noticed it is in every way an improvment. The tray is far better the machining is nicer the anodizing feels nicer the bearing is great and the bit storage is awesome. i always keep my driver in my shirt pocket at work so not having to keep the 3 bits i use constantly loose in my pocket is the real game changer for me. That being said i dont think anyone would be making a mistake saving a little dosh and going with the ifixit. Also i really hope they make an optional pocket clip for it at some point
I think this is a really good way to put it. The ifixit kit is pretty much as good as you could need, there aren't any real defects (well, except the lid doesn't always fit right), LTT just went "okay, but what if we made it more expensive?" for the lols. It's better, and you pay for it. Not so much a competing product as it is a "well if you have the money and want to treat yourself" option.
Tiny screwdrivers are one of those things I will spend money on and get a set which will last forever. Stripping a little screw with a hokey driver can be a nightmare. I like the Wiha made in Germany line or a set from Vessel made in Japan.
One issue I had with my iFixIt was that the flats don’t stabilize it or keep it from rolling on a flat surface since they are suspended by the round spinner and tip. It’s always rolling off when I need it. I would have loved to see a side by side roll test!
That is a very good point. I just checked and it seems like the LTT driver is slightly better.
I do not think the flats are there to prevent rolling. There's some that like registration with tools. Sometimes you have to count turns too and then it helps to have a reference on the tool to gauge off of. The flats could simply be a design detail too.
Regardless, there should be flats on the spinner to keep it from rolling… and there aren’t. :(
@@emmettturner9452 It would be handy. Then again I don't think it is a big ask to have a level work surface to do delicate work on. Things really shouldn't be rolling around.
It’s heavy and has more momentum than the other stuff that gets pushed around while working on my bench. As I move things on my level work surface and it gets bumped/pushed it’ll just keep going until it rolls off the edge. 🤦♂️
The screwdriver has been around for over 600 years. The spinning cap has been a popular design for ~70 years and the first one likely dating back far longer. No one is ripping off anyone. Just a bunch of people filling their emptiness with hate because they'd rather feel hate than nothing at all. Because it's basically the same thing and three days grace knows what they're talking about.
I don't why people are so quick to say things are a rip off. There are only so many ways to make things, and if someone makes a thing in a way that's good, does that somehow mean someone else isn't allowed to also make something good? One could argue maybe that LTT didn't NEED to make a precision driver kit, after all the ifixit is already really good. Unlike the larger ratcheting driver that they made specifically because Linus couldn't find a screwdriver that was perfect enough for him, I think they only really made the precision because fans asked for it. But just because they didn't need to do it, doesn't mean they just copied ifixit. They sell T-shirts too, I don't see anyone getting upset that they are ripping off... everyone else ever that makes shirts.
I like the in driver storage of your four bits myself. I like the hinge and magnetic case area too.
Thanks for the review.
I bought a wiha kit when I began working on electronics full time. Years later all the bits are still intact the correct shape. None of the dozens of ifixit and chinesium spares I’ve bought since can say the same
Yes the wiha are some premium German tools! Worth it getting them
I'm happy knowing their are more tools in this world to fix things, LTT and iFixit both making things to do it is a net positive
Since i went on amazon to find one years ago, i paid 25 dollars for. Has a hard case with bits that lay down and the case locks. Has a metal driver and nice bits
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I have fastener organizers for certain stuff, but just started just using small jars sorted into general types.
I’m not allowed to buy fastener cases, rollaways, and tools unless I really need them.
The iFixit kit is better as a desktop/workbench kit. While the driver and bits are solid, the lack of hinge or clasp makes the case a liability on the road. The flexible extension is super useful for impossibly located hardware.
My road bag has Klein's 64 bit mini driver and ratchet kit, #32787.
That iFixit case is going to end up with a rubber band around it to hold it together, isn't it?
If you’re keeping it in a bag I would say 100% yes.
Mines lived in my back pack and never had any problems. I have knocked it off a table many times and had a handfull of bits scattered everywhere though
Don't need it but I'd go for the LTT
I also have the small ifixit set in my toolbag. To stop it from separating I just put a piece of electrical tape on the sides. Holds it together well enough and the adhesive isn't sticky enough to be hard to remove when i need it.
Another person in the comments suggested a rubber band 👍🏻
I enjoy your videos. I even learn a little something from time to time. For instance I learned that the video is over when you say, "There you go". 👍
I own and use both, and for me, the LTT set wins. The longer shaft on the bits is very useful and it comes with the bits that better fit my use-case. The lid is nicer and detachable which I never thought I'd care about but I use that feature quite often, I just wish the magnetic material was a bit stronger to hold screws. I've stripped the iFixit bits while attempting to remove recalcitrant stuck screws too, not so LTT (yet), and the foam material seems nicer, I wish they'd inked/colored the icons though, not just embossed them. And there are several I KNOW I'll never use, I guess screws are different in the great white north. Haven't used the bit storage in the LTT, but it looks like it'll take standard 4mm bits and I have several I use a lot from other kits that will find their way into the storage area. The knurling grip could be deeper/more coarse on LTT, perhaps extend a bit higher up the shaft too, but they both feel okay.
Yes sir a very informed and valued opinion. love ya brother.
I thought Alex lived in Florida? 🤣
Just kidding. Thanks for the PSA! 😂
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A bonus video?
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
I’ve been doing these Sunday videos on an occasion for follow-up stuff and anything that’s not a regular tool review.
@FunkFPV Keep it up. Your content is like me and my buddies just shooting the breeze.
love these vids chief
I got a similar kit from Lowes, Kobalt brand, about $10 with 18 bits. Love it.
I like the black tipped Klein sets, no fails so far
this was a good and felt a fair review of the products.. i was seeing the LTT kit and i was curious of how nice it was Vs the Ifixit. the case it self and the extended narrow length of each bit is a high selling point for LTT . but for the price is steep Vs what you could get with with ifixit case if you wanted a fully trusted brand that won't 100% brake your bank.. strong points on both ends
As someone that owned a ifix it kit when you could only buy direct from them before they went retail: great kit. As someone that owns both. LTT is better. As someone that’s owned a Klein precision screw drivers BEFORE both LTT and Ifixit where existed but are better. But there is this idea that Ifixit invented the precision screw drivers and they didn’t. They saw a product that needed improvement and made a better one. LTT saw a product that needed improvements and made a better one. People need to get this idea that Ifixit invented the precision screwdriver out of there head I don’t understand where that’s coming from. If anything someone can argue that both companies, first Ifixit stole there idea from
Klein. Because Klein was first and Ifixit it looks like a copy of Klein. It’s honestly why Ifixit has not come out and formal made any accusations against LTT because they would be put under the same chopping block.
Have a Kobalt driver set with an insane array of bits that I use for my computer and hardware needs. Have a ratcheting screwdriver that holds the bits by a spring clip. Good combo. Also have a Gamers Nexus silicone mat for computer/electrical work, the “squares” on the
May work well
Even though the magnet latches are slick, that's a feature for a bench kit. I'd much rather have a physical latch for a mobile kit. Magnets are cooler but less functional.
As far as which is better, I'm not sure it matters. Anything you are using a precision bit on is very low torque. You don't need a strong driver. I just want it to ratchet and spin. The SIM Pin was nice touch though.
I've never been a fan of the ifxit box, not only does the lack of hinge mean the lid can come fully off by accident, they didn't put a large enough lip around the edge which makes it slide right off very easily and on some of them it never really closes quite right. I really liked the ifixit driver originally, I think the older version has a bearing in the head where it spins and the newer ones don't. It was never as good as the LTT one is, but I find it a little sad that they changed it.
Never realized there were two different drivers, turns out I have both, thanks for letting me know!
I just figured it out myself 😜
The big thing here isn’t people seem to forget that ifixit did not create the precision screwdriver kit(surprise) they just created a really great one. Ltt just made another one with improvements they wanted. I will say in my eyes (without owning the ltt) the ifixit precision screwdrivers have always seemed lacking/basic. They work fine but do nothing over a standard precision driver. And the older silver precision driver was very rough.
It seems like the precision screwdriver is like their other screwdriver. What you are paying for is a screwdriver made by someone very critical of screwdrivers, and made their own perfect tool. It's very well thought through, and that doesn't come cheap, and it isn't going to be a good buy for everyone.
I wish the LTT one had a case that stayed on when flat and came off when at 90 degrees.
I'm thinking of moving to the US, as a forklift driver, just working the obligatory beer belly. 🍺 🍻🍺
I’m not 100% sure but I think the beer belly is a requirement for forklift operators in the US 😎👍🏻
@FunkFPV Well I'm halfway there with the beer belly, and halfway with the cash.
Just one thing, Will I be able to get a decent pickup truck with manual gears?
Fu*k The automatic track.
LTT Kits lid is also cable of attachin g to the back of the case of bits to to make a little screw box if you need to clean up your area real quick.
Thank you for the info. Not sure I need these but what the heck, may add tool selection.
They’ve handing to have around no matter what one you buy.
Once a product gets up to a certain level of quality the only real differences will be little things like the bit storage etc
Upper mid Atlantic sure sounds like Joizey to moi...
Close SE Penny
Every time I use my $25 no-name kit I expect to damage some very important screw in a laptop or whatever. Or, maybe the cheap bit. But, haven't destroyed any, yet. Biggest problem is the cheap Costco reading glasses I try to tighten have nuts that are randomly different sizes that don't all match to any of the bits in my kit. Or in my 10yo ifixit kit. It's probably cheaper to replace the glasses every couple years than find and pay for a mini kit with more hex sizes.
Both are great products honestly. I certainly prefer the LTT one, but it's marginal and subjective enough that I'm happy recommending either one personally. You're not gonna go wrong no matter which one of the two you get.
The LTT one has some features that make it nicer. I don't know if they justify the price. But if anyone values those features then yes. You're potentially going to own it for decades. So paying some more at the outset hardly matters in the long run. 20 or 30 years from now you're not going to miss the difference.
ive got the ifixit kit, that flex thingy id useless, had a screw on my pc case that was almost flat against the case wall, the flex thing would just twist and coil. extra pressure on the driver and two handed twist got it out. would have bought the ltt one if i didnt already have the ifixit. the ifixit lid isnt flat, so as a organizer while working its kinda useless, ltt just did a better job, like you said, more refined.
A more expensive clone is not unheard of
...not that they'd be considered "clones" but I've seen white labeled versions of European tools with American brands that have a premium markup compared to the German and Spanish original manufacturers products... I'm sure this happens all the time with Taiwanese tools as well, but I'm specifically thinking of Irega adjustable wrenches and NWS pliers. From several different brands but notably Klein and Milwaukee.
I mean the LTT has improvement
@@profosistSorry, I didn't mean to imply that I was talking about the LTT precision screwdriver. I should have specified that I was responding to the following statement made in the video:
"To start off, if you're gonna do a clone of something, why would you charge $10 more than the original? That would be the first time in history that ever happened."
Edit: I understand that the quoted statement is likely hyperbole, but I replied to it as a point of note anyway.
"Why would you create a clone and charge more?" Because of the name..
Not like Gucci is objectively worth anything, not like Rolex is actually a watch worth owning. LTT charges more because they can, not because it's inherently better (it might be, I don't own both sets to compare, but the argument and logic is flawed). From someone who didn't see the original video and wasn't part of the angry commenting crowd it feels you kinda proved them right. The bits are stored in a similar way. The drivers look eerily alike. Both use the magnet style lid. From this armchair here it looks like LTT looked at the iFixIt kit and iterated in the smallest possible way on it, then increased the price by quite a bit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I .. would buy the iFixIt, will order one for Christmas
Get your thick gum band to put on your case. That way it won’t spill all your parts.
The LTT driver is designed with the iFixit kit in mind, so it should fit in the iFixit kit better than the iFixit one fit in the LTT kit.
you still kinda gotta smush it in the foam a bit
I saw the ifixit one at a store today and was going to buy it but changed my mind. Glad i did, i thought it was electric driver.
Thanks, Funk man
There is better foam padding on the ifixit kits that are larger. I own 2 of them. Also the premium version is better because it has a wrap around case one of my kits is premium. I believe ifixit has a lifetime guarantee on their set. I don't think the LTT one has that.
I put a stretchy band around mine so the lid doesn't slide off in my bag.
Months ago some crackhead “borrowed” and never returned my aluminum driver for my bigger iFixit Mako set… and I just couldn’t bring myself to buy a replacement (too expensive). I didn’t even realize he still had it at the time since he said he only needed my Pittsburgh Pro nut drivers (the only ones he returned). Like you, I bought a whole other iFixIt set only to realize it came with a plastic driver (mine was the “Electronics Essential” kit). During BF I was genuinely interested in the bare LTT driver handle as a replacement but it was EVEN MORE expensive. In the end I got a whole other Mako set from a salvage store but I still want to get another to complete my original set.
Never loan tools. That is in the 10 commandments of being a man. Thou shalt not loan tools. You can give tools away. Here, keep it. But if you want it back don't loan it out. Or you can loan with the expectation of never seeing it again. But if you really want it back then never loan it out in the first place. Most of the time if you get it back it's just because they broke it or effed it up somehow. They'll usually complain about how your tool was somehow lacking and didn't meet their expectations too. There's just too much downside to loaning tools. Ubermensch have loaner tools. Crappy tools they have no problem loaning. Yeah sure take this.
Yep. That’s just it: I didn’t intend to and would have said “no way” since I use it almost daily. He was using it on a trimmer in the back of my van when I dropped him off in town on my way to work. He said he only needed the nut drivers, which I was willing to just give away. Turns out he took the iFixIt driver handle with the exact Security Torx bit I use almost daily for rebuilding DeWALT batteries. Came back to the workshop to find only the nut drivers left at my door. 🤦♂️The other moral of the story is don’t give schizos whacked out crazies a ride to town just because you’re going that way already.
@@emmettturner9452 some people are definitely a liability to get involved with. Their dark cloud rains on your parade. Some are armored against that sort of thing. Some of us aren't.
refining of such products is sometimes much easier than bringing the initial product to the market
i feel like LTT team would not have gotten to such a good product without a strong template by iFixit team
(unless somebody from LTT team shows the world that they ordered a lot of other comparators sets and show us how they selected the bits for usage i will stick to this opinion)
Just get the electrical repair kit from Harbor Freight, it's the same thing.
you can get the ifix it even cheaper. without the i fix it name on it. its white labled product from china they made slight changes to
I have both I like both. My LTT driver has also broken.
The plastic one looked like it had bit storage. The metal one just doesn't?
True 👍🏻
LTT use drivers every day and so designed and refined one that was perfect for not just their needs but what they imagine users need. The case is designed by someone who knows the value of not losing the screws you are removing in a lie flat tray.
I have bluepoint, snapon and milwaukee precision drivers and if I was going to add a set then I would be more inclined to go for the LTT over the ifixit.
The ifixit CEO is crying because he thinks his monopoly is broken.
I have had my iFixit Manta kit for 4 years now. Bits are kinda soft.
Yup - I have the Manta and Mako sets for about the same period and have broken several of the smaller torx bits in both of them. Very irritating.
I'll take my cheapo Husky over both.
Major mondays comin' stress.
Lots of controversy around LTT. Everyone loves a good controversy.
Drama is fun from the outside looking in 😜
@@FunkFPVlove your comparison videos! Keep on trucking! 😊
If the LTT has the 5 point bits Apple uses its a steal at $50.
IFixit also actively supports right to repair so that is another reason to buy from them! That said both I think are great
There's no such thing as a right to repair. Either you can repair something or you can't. That's down to personal ability. It isn't a right that can be granted to anyone.
Wish i had bought the ltt kit before it sold out.
I kinda find that ifixit ceo stance on, I don't want any legit competition.
I think the screwdriver is different enough to not be called clone. And this video only added the proof of that..
Do you have a favorite soldering iron for small electronics etc?
Hakko are the best but pricey. You can find no name ones from China that are really good for a hobbyist.
I use a small butane iron to solder, tin & it has a mini blowtorch for heat shrink tubing.
the ifixit kit is decent. but not as good as the generic chinese name amazon kit i bought for work a year or so back.
Winner: Whatever the cheapest kit off amazon is.
Milwaukee is clearly copying Stanley tape measures. They look and work very similar! (Same energy)
I don't understand LTT selling a kit with a slot for the driver but not including it. Charge more and include it...
It is included at the $50 price point.
Why didn't you put the premium LTT driver in the small mini iFixit kit
If the premium LTT drivers the better out of the two
I would have done that
It wouldn't look as matched but if you're going for efficiency and convenience I would have put the LTT deluxe driver in the ifixit case
It doesn’t fit. The handle is fatter. You could maybe trim the foam a little?
SUNDAY FUNDAY!
It's just a shame that LTT has become so shit lately. This is a great product despite that though.
Do you have a freestyle section? I swore I signed up for drone videos and I get hilarious tool and fool reviews instead.
*edit - i found them. So it was wings. Bring it back bro. And who is the guy flying? Lol
Haha I haven’t made a flying video in years. Maybe someday I’ll do one if only to see how bad I am now 😜
@@FunkFPVHome Depot is selling cheap drones. Can you do a review?
I don’t really need one, but I’m not allowed to buy tools unless I really need it.
I don't like any youtuber products to begin with, but looking at the warranty info on their website the LTT screwdriver has a very strict lifetime warranty that doesn't include the bits. I have the ifixit kit and one of my bits broke, I sent them an email and all they asked for was a picture of the kit and they sent me a new bit free of charge in 3 days. I would understand if the LTT kit was priced more competitively but it's 10 dollars more and you get a far worse warranty. Not too impressed.
Doll hairs where do I get them so I can buy these kits 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kinda start's here 5:04
You should’ve bought the bigger kit😂
He didn't need all the bits and wanted something that fit in his tool bag. So why buy something that doesn't fit your needs?
Picked up a set of 4mm precision bits with an electric driver at one of those discount stores (Action, for those residing in the Netherlands) for like twelve bucks. Was very impressed with the quality.
Sorry Linus. I won't be buying yours.
Tools for tools by tools
Ifixit is just a cheap nasty knockoff of the
Vessel precision screwdriver set.
The Vessel product has a proper box with a secure latch and fits into a shirt pocket comfortably. And its not made in chiyna. 🇯🇵
I just looked at that Vessel. Looks kind of nice. Maybe a future video 🤔
Jayz2cents vs ltt
Neat.
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When working on small electronics all day, the superiority of LTT's bits becomes apparent. The fact that the shank is just long enough to fit in the driver, and then the rest of the bit is neck and head makes it much easier to fit into tight screw holes in the cases of devices.
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Waiting to be second so I can become the firet looser .
With the typos you pretty much assured that
I believe you are always the first loser
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@@cumulusvapes7 lol I posted a comment on this but apparently UA-cam deleted it. I keep on having comments that disappear or I comment but it never appears. I think that's shadow banning right?
@@Berm_Blaster
It's cute to wanna support other creators, but it's not worth the extra cash. LTT is a lesser kit in all ways other than magnet on the tray. Also the kit is $60 when not on sale, plus shipping, so they're charging $20+ more for their knockoff. And the ifixit driver actually has a usable neck, instead of the nub on the LTT one. Calling people who prefer the ifixit one "cheap" is wild.
I picked up the LTT driver for the the iFixit kit. For my uses though I think the case is actually the reason to upgrade, not the driver. I have no need for the internal storage and ergonomically I prefer the iFixit metal driver. The coarser knurling is also a bit more towards my taste which is a bummer since LTT knocked that out with their ratcheting driver.
The fact that the case is flat and that it stacks as well as has the magnet material is a significant improvement. The orange is just easier to identify the bits as well.
Ive got at least 3 various iFixit kits around that I user personally and professionally and have been using them since they rebranded the same set everyone else was selling on aliexpress/amazon. I do not like the new plastic/rubber driver. The big thing for them if you use it regularly is that they have a lifetime warranty on the bits. The bit may only be better than chineseium but when they do strip they just send you a new one. Also if its basically something you have to have Best Buy and other carry them in store. For work each tech has one thats provided and there's an extra at the office to snipe bits from if needed while we get replacements. I think that one is lacking its driver by now as well...
The LTT kit was designed for the lid to come off and use it as a place to hold screws when disassembling something.
LTT didn't just copy iFixit, they did it better.
Lol funny, I commented about the iFixit kit on your LTT vid, glad to see an actual comparison! (Though I have the bigger iFixit kit, with about the same size bit set as the LTT, and with a few other electronic fixing tools)
I'd actually run the opposite way of anything that has to do with LTT. It's time to switch to people with integrity who don't sacrifice accuracy and thoroughness for more videos like Linus. He is a shining example of self proclaimed "good tech tubers" turning greedy. Although he's not anywhere near MKBHD who's now a criminal who drove 96 miles in a 35 mile zone and tried to edit out the speed, got caught, removed the video, got caught and said f u, Linus will reach that point soon. The more merch he can sell, the faster he's going to turn
Linus told in his videos that they decided to make their driver compatible exactly with the ifixit bits ,
it seems that is some variations between different brands due to confusion on outer size specification so they chose to go matchy matchy with iFixit